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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Digits on August 20, 2020, 11:25:53 AM

Title: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: Digits on August 20, 2020, 11:25:53 AM
Having been introduced to Chain of Command briefly by HasBeen (see Angry Ivan thread), I find myself compelled to explore it further and cover an area of WW2 I have not done before, namely painting and collecting Waffen-SS.  I used to have a large Rapid Fire Normandy 20mm set of armies but sold it about 15 years ago.

A few of us, myself and Jamie, are looking to collect forces to enable us to fight in the Ardennes offensive, late 1944.

This will also mean a new playing mat....I have one in mind from Deepcut....and some new scenery.   The idea is to utilise trees etc I have from other ventures, but we will between us require a few buildings, entrenchment, mine fields etc so a little building fun to be had.

Chain of Command centres around a single platoon on infantry with a few support choices, so this will not be a large project...typically about 40-50 minis total and no more than half a dozen vehicle options.

I am not naming the Division...these will be generic troops.  I simply could not decide between them as to which Division appealed.   Answer is, none of them appeal...I don’t like what they stood for and I certainly find their respective atrocities despicable.  However, despite the later war years meaning troop qualities were declining, I can’t deny that many of them were damn good soldiers.  Mostly, I like the idea of painting camo schemes and making them a little more interesting!

I want to be able to use the Germans to play on the Eastern Front and other theatres and I’m not very keen on dressing them all in white mainly because I can’t paint white very well! Lol

As such, they will be in a mix of clothing, smocks, Parker’s and great coats,, with a few attempts at various camo schemes and one or two with white smocks.  There may be tiny amounts of ice/snow on a few bases but the idea is to base and paint them say as per the opening few days of the engagement, before the snow hit hard.  Not as it would seem that many of the Germans were issued with adequate snow camo gear anyway!

Believe it or not, we actually started reading official  after battle weather reports last night!

The Deepcut Northland mat seems useful, not completely snow covered, but looks bloody cold!  I will get one ordered.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/72EDE667_8F23_4E57_A2A5_502BF383AD99.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

At this stage, I have just been ordering a few figures.

With so few minis required, I would have liked to think I could cover them all uniquely, but as I’ve found, not quite so easy!

I really like the Warlord SS winter chaps....but there are only ten in the box.  Ok....so I also bought a box of their winter panzer grenadiers...as mixing the two together makes perfect sense.   But, with each box having ten figures, a section or squads worth, unfortunately, they each contain only one LMG team.  Standard practice for a squad seems to have been two teams per squad.   Bummer!

Scouring the net, I see a few size comparisons between manufacturers including those of Offensive miniatures.  They looked fine in the little pictures...but I think someone has been very selective with their choice of minis for the shots!  A box with a single squad in arrived and they each weigh about half the weight of a Warlord mini!

Needs must so for now I will use the LMG team despite them not being quite so heroically sized.  I have ordered a pair of Artizan teams in winter gear and I did this small conversion on a casualty cameo piece from Warlord to represent another team.  I will also try and convert a plastic great coat team from the few bits I have from the WI freebie...and I’ve just realised I can make another team from the STuG riders set....starting to come together!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/91CBAB26_8EDD_4D4A_9D26_758E86736202.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Anyway....I will get all the minis I have for now based and primed then have a crack at painting the first few.  Should be fun.....


Edit:  Also decided to do Normandy!



Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 20, 2020, 01:18:34 PM
And to really get me in the mood, an American P51 mustang has just flown over my house......I’ve seen him a few times but he was lovely and loud today!

Surely a sign.....



......probably that I’m gonna get my back side handed to me....... lol
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Romark on August 20, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
Good job on the casualty set,nice choice of game mat too! 8)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: FreakyFenton on August 20, 2020, 11:53:42 PM
 :o That conversion is a great idea Digits. It looks fantastic and I'm curious as to what is to come. 
If you fancy some good looks at camo I can recommend these books:

https://www.amazon.de/Waffen-SS-Uniforms-Color-Photographs-Militaria/dp/1861264593/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=uniforms+waffen+ss&qid=1597967359&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.de/Camouflaged-Uniforms-Waffen-S-S-Part/dp/B00TU6QK7M/ref=sr_1_67?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=uniforms+waffen+ss&qid=1597967389&sr=8-67

There's quite a few others in that series as well! Though in either case, if you want to paint interesting camo, the Waffen SS and by extension the italian teleo memetico and some Heer patterns are quite a challenge but a looker on the tabletop.  :D
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 21, 2020, 08:21:50 AM
Cheers for the comments and the book links guys.

Yup, a bit worried about the camo, but there are plenty of video tutorials etc about, I need to zero in on a few....

Meanwhile, I think I will have a go at green stuffing smocks over the greatcoats of a few plastics....if successful, I will pop them up!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 21, 2020, 11:56:44 AM
My first attempt!  Going to have a go at the LMG team next....

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9A3412C6_FF5E_4AC8_A84C_A3EB93FA6354.jpeg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Romark on August 21, 2020, 12:26:39 PM
Gs smocks look ace! :)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: aphillathehun on August 21, 2020, 02:03:35 PM

Empress Miniatures, just sayin'....

https://www.empressminiatures.com/german-27-c.asp
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 21, 2020, 02:41:05 PM
Yup, I was looking at their mg teams and may well order a set, they do look good.   I’m just wary on scale now I had the dodgy experience with the Offensive minis.

Warlord are that bit more heroic in size.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: has.been on August 21, 2020, 05:21:42 PM
And you dare to say you don't produce much!!!!!!
Looking good. Let me know if you want some scenery doing.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 21, 2020, 06:35:31 PM
Be careful....I may take you up on it!

A bit more progress.  The mg team is work in progress....I still need to smock the loader.

It does bulk these guys out...but what do you expect?  They are wearing a great coat over their tunic, and now a smock over the coat!  Must be damned cold!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/6751114F_085E_437C_B20F_4B27353A2320.jpeg)

I’m only making a small number of these guys....I only had one sprue and I don’t need too many. 
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Romark on August 21, 2020, 08:15:03 PM
They look good👍
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: FreakyFenton on August 21, 2020, 09:43:25 PM
They do look great! I love the stuff they lug about as well! Warlord kits are great for that, to give a unit a sort of rugged and scavenger feel. After all they did pick up what they could.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 21, 2020, 10:30:08 PM
Yup, there’s a few nice bits on the sprue.  I need to look for a sprue of regular Heer grenadiers I  think too....I’m surprised there is no belt for the MG42.  I have converted a lot of gw imperial guard in the past, and the secret was always to plaster them in clutter......adds a professional touch I just couldn’t manage with gs alone.

Could also convert a few of those Grenadier minis too with a smock, we’ll see.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: FreakyFenton on August 21, 2020, 11:01:29 PM
Hrm, might need two frames of them, I think the Winter Infantry is a bit bulkier than the Heer and Fallschirmjäger blokes. At least I think so, I'll check tomorrow!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Splod on August 22, 2020, 12:09:57 AM
Don't be afraid to check out the Empress Volksgrenadiers. They are absolutely gorgeous sculpts, and probably my favourite 28mm range on the market.

There's a good painting guide here (https://moitereisbuntewelt.blogspot.com/2017/11/ww2-german-marsh-pattern-painting-guide.html) which conveniently has a comparison between Artizan, Empress and Warlord minis towards the end of the post.

I really like the work you've done sculpting smocks over the greatcoats. I've been meaning to try the same in 20mm, but have been hesitating to sculpt over the gorgeous AB figures sculpts.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 22, 2020, 12:41:44 AM
Cheers and thanks for the link.  I’ve ordered the one set of LMG teams for now so I will get a closer look.  Luckily I don’t need too many figures for this project. But it would be good to have the option.

And I know what you mean about AB miniatures.  I used them a lot for my 20mm collection, they were nice.  But luckily, cheaper...so maybe worth an extra pack to have a go with?

Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Swordisdrawn on August 23, 2020, 01:38:49 PM
Very nice work
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 23, 2020, 04:45:08 PM
My thanks!

Just having a go at painting one of them by way as a test mini....should be interesting to see if it works....
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: Digits on August 23, 2020, 08:24:02 PM
So here it is.  I’m no Paul Hicks but I’m pleased how it turned out.  I actually prefer it to some of the proper metal grenadiers!  Of course...I’m biased!  ;)

My first attempt at painting any 28mm WW2 mini, my first attempt at oak leaf camo.  I’m not going to win prizes, but I’m pleased enough.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/ED37A6B5_AB5F_49A1_81AC_229532C9849F.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/C881C1F4_5A72_4EEF_86A7_1919DBC1E7F1.jpeg)

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Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: Splod on August 23, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
Yep. Looks like a Jerry, sounds like a Jerry, smells like a Jerry  ;)

That's a nice bit of work there! If you want some variety amongst your smocks, I like seeing the mouse grey parkers mixed in with the oakleaf. I went with the reversible white for my Germans and got away from having to try oakleaf lol But maybe you could have the odd white helmet cover?
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: Digits on August 23, 2020, 08:34:29 PM
Yup.  I’ve already started painting a couple of others, including white smock. 

The warlord SS are a mix of smock and  parka....painting Them Italian pattern? 

So I will have a mix of Oakleaf/ white / camo parka and field grey (on some trousers etc)

I may look up another smock pattern but I do like the look of the oak leaf.

I’ve just finished a white smock on one of my mg teams and I’m actually quite pleased with it...which is great, because I don’t usually fare well with white! Lol

I want to try sponge painting white onto helmets.

Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: Romark on August 23, 2020, 09:24:54 PM
Nice work on him :)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: gamer Mac on August 23, 2020, 09:32:44 PM
Camo looks good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: vodkafan on August 23, 2020, 11:08:27 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: FreakyFenton on August 24, 2020, 12:21:33 AM


The warlord SS are a mix of smock and  parka....painting Them Italian pattern? 


Quite good job on the painted figure!  :D

If you talk about the Winter Waffen SS box, yes, those parkas are good for either field grey, oak leaf autumn/summer and the italian pattern of telo mimetico. I think the box art also shows some greenish/sandy tones in the style of fieldgrey parkas, which I suppose could be cloth from different factories.

I'll be following with interest!  :)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painted mini
Post by: has.been on August 24, 2020, 07:17:11 AM
Nice! Look forward to more pretty pictures.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 24, 2020, 06:49:03 PM
Cheers all!

So, I’ve completed half a dozen.  I’ve come to the conclusion I like the ones I’ve converted, in some cases more than the proper metals!  I may have to buy another sprue!

Anyway, the two parka wearing chaps, I tried to represent the worn Italian pattern shown here.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/8AB9A678_D682_4D9F_B18D_42A9FC9BC864.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Close enough for what I want.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/951E3804_5EAA_48C1_A4E1_D7E2C9BCDDB3.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/EC5F11D2_DE31_467C_BDC6_5993FF5BDB35.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/A8317172_70FF_43C7_9B16_8B18BF849AE9.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: gamer Mac on August 24, 2020, 06:52:38 PM
looking good :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: FreakyFenton on August 24, 2020, 07:14:03 PM
I have to agree with gamer Mac, top job and I like how the piece(s) you converted came out as well!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 25, 2020, 09:20:13 AM
Cheers guys.

Going to try and get through these in batches.  First up, I think I will tackle the soldiers wearing parkas.  Going to stick with this Italian faded scheme but dot in a few non camo green shades too.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Romark on August 25, 2020, 09:58:55 AM
looking good :-* :-* :-*

Yep! :)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Ragnar on August 25, 2020, 10:10:58 AM
Cool project, I'll be following.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 26, 2020, 09:10:16 PM
Welcome aboard!

So, the sprue for the Grenadiers arrived.  I’m a little puzzled with it.  There are some nice bits on the sprue....but they are a little I’ll fitting.  There is also a height discrepancy between themselves and with the great coated guys.  Easily overlooked though.

Luckily, I’m going to try and join them altogether  with a few smocks though!  ;)

As I realise I need a further squad of grenadiers for one of the support choices, I thought I’d make / convert a few more.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/381B8915_EE75_43F4_9A1E_BCCFE6AF4ED8.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 28, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Gaming mat has arrived...excellent service as usual from Deepcut Studio.

Now we need to fill it with scenery and a few opposing armies!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/B9D032AC_33A4_4D85_8700_B736492CBF03.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Romark on August 28, 2020, 04:28:54 PM
Nice mat 8)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on August 28, 2020, 06:20:53 PM
Yup, pretty funky.

Another team.  This time I’m using a figure from the plastic grenadier sprue.

Should be an interesting exercise in camo schemes.....he has a zeltbahn over a reversible smock.  Waste not want not.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/40CFACC2_87FE_4056_A617_15C7117C4E18.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/86625D25_ED93_40A8_93C6_D15710C9A771.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Hmm....just spotted a little bit needing a tidy up on the gunner......useful to take pics!


Edit:  a couple more riflemen using the panzer grenadier sprue.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/77E721EB_393A_4C19_AC94_FE2069C4E58A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Splod on August 28, 2020, 10:46:52 PM
Your putty pushing skills are looking good! I really like how you've managed to blend the two kits together.

The Waffen SS (https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/germany/products/waffen-ss-1) kit is another plastic set that would provide some variance to your troops as well as some STG-44s  :D
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Digits on August 28, 2020, 11:09:14 PM
Cheers Splod.  I may we’ll get a sprue and have a play.  Tbh....I think I’ve hit my target number now...so any thing I make now simply gives me the chance to stand down the ones I don’t care for.  But yes, as it’s been easy enough to winterise the grenadiers, those SS would be just the same I imagine, thanks.

I suppose I really to get a few figures painted this weekend.....
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Splod on August 29, 2020, 12:15:50 AM
Well.. For CoC you need 3x full squads, plus a fourth from your support options.

That and it's only if they're panzergrenadiers or SS that you have 2x Mg-34/42 in a squad. If you run them as Volksgrenadiers or leg infantry there are only 3x LMGs for the entire platoon. So you'll need extra riflemen to swap out those LMG teams.

Oh, and you'll need crews for any halftracks...

And while you're at it you may as well do a storm platoon as well to give you more options  :D
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Digits on August 29, 2020, 09:37:12 AM
Yup, made enough for the extra squad (plus I found a section of unpainted paratroops I could use ) and yes I do need a few more for swapping out the lmg’s....you are correct sir!

Being made aware about Big CofC, I have ordered a Panzer IV zug.

I have the winter Heer warlord models, mostly in smocks, for some of my support options.  Namely, HMG, flame thrower, sniper, medic, forward observer.  I also have an Artizan Pak 40 but I need to order more crew.  I also have a warlord Hanomag and a STuG.  Lots to be getting in with....
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: has.been on August 29, 2020, 10:45:23 AM
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Yup, made enough for the extra squad (plus I found a section of unpainted paratroops I could use ) and yes I do need a few more for swapping out the lmg’s....you are correct sir!

Being made aware about Big CofC, I have ordered a Panzer IV zug.

I have the winter Heer warlord models, mostly in smocks, for some of my support options.  Namely, HMG, flame thrower, sniper, medic, forward observer.  I also have an Artizan Pak 40 but I need to order more crew.  I also have a warlord Hanomag and a STuG.  Lots to be getting in with....
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And all from a guy whose decries his own out-put.
David you are an ENGINE mate, & a high powered one to boot.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Digits on August 29, 2020, 11:52:56 AM
I said I have them......NOT that I’d yet painted them! Lol

I ordered a pack of tank riders which turned up today.  You can take your pick who to put with the gunner, but you can create a very nice lmg team with them.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/3CA7E8BB_CFC1_4D66_B222_1EABCFDF048F.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/42C18CA4_04D8_4825_869C_9EB02ACCF8C0.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Funny, looking round the web, I’ve seen a lot of people putting teams on square bases?  Just a matter of taste perhaps but I prefer mine on round.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: FreakyFenton on August 29, 2020, 03:24:49 PM
Great use for the tank riders! I think one of the bodies from the grenadier sprue can be used in the same prone position, to portray a bloke priming his panzerfaust before firing.

Great job!

And I have to thank you, I developed motivation to have a go at my WW2 stuff again after looking and reading this excellent post!  :)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Digits on August 29, 2020, 03:36:41 PM
That’s pleasing to hear!  I’m forever starting new projects after reading other guys posts on LAF! Lol
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: vodkafan on August 30, 2020, 09:29:44 AM
It is starting to motivate me to get my Crossfire Forces finished...That is a Company but because of the ratio it is actually the same number of minis as CoC and could be used for either with a few extras...
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - winterising plastic grenadier
Post by: Paratrooper 42 on August 30, 2020, 11:45:26 PM
Some great sculpting and painting there
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: Digits on August 31, 2020, 12:11:43 PM
Cheers!

So another ten painted.  Mostly the actual as sold Waffen SS Winter chaps in parkas. 

Tried a few different parkas.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/1350529E_9916_4EA5_BC65_50BF3A402AAD.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

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Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: Romark on August 31, 2020, 12:13:10 PM
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Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: Splod on August 31, 2020, 09:42:38 PM
I do love the Metal winter German range. Just a pity there's not more sculpts, as I'm not really a fan of mixing plastics and metals.

Lovely paintwork as always old boy!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: Digits on September 01, 2020, 02:13:17 AM
I agree there should be more of them!

It would be nice if they at least did one support pack to go with them. 

As for mixing, I’m a fan of individuality so needs must.  Still, there are some great support choices that mix well and I will be throwing a few Artizan miniatures bits in too.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: LazyStudent on September 01, 2020, 04:54:52 AM
Nice painting Digits! Really like the way you've done the camo. Oddly enough it actually looks like it's starting to blur the edge of the figures into the mat! So careful you don't loose them.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: Digits on September 01, 2020, 06:38:08 AM
Ha!  That could just be my crappy photography skills!  lol lol
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: LazyStudent on September 01, 2020, 08:30:06 AM
I was going to give you the benafit of the doubt :D

But I have to say I am always impressed by those who take on camo as a task. I think it is probably the hardest thing to paint on a mini! And you have managed to do it justice! 8)

I am guessing the Naps are on pause for the moment ;)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: gamer Mac on September 01, 2020, 08:53:25 AM
Really liking these
The camo is good , liking how dark they are
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: vodkafan on September 01, 2020, 09:36:09 AM
Nice painting Digits! Really like the way you've done the camo. Oddly enough it actually looks like it's starting to blur the edge of the figures into the mat! So careful you don't loose them.

That's called effective camouflage!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - more painted
Post by: Digits on September 01, 2020, 09:43:02 AM
Thanks guys.  I’m not one for bright looking camo done in the style of “a small representation” that I see on some minis.  I prefer to dull it down, and keep it relatively small which does tend to naturally darken the minis.  Often this means you struggle to see the detailing I think....but it works for me.

Will be having a go at the two zeltbahn wearing minis I converted tonight....should look interesting I hope.

Naps will be resumed shortly.  Just want to get these guys done as the promise of a game or two always trumps longer term aspirations!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 02, 2020, 09:44:34 AM
The converted minis in zeltbahns.  Adds variety and a little interest.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/B0E78B4A_EAB1_4D5D_B9B5_5658F4B743AF.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/1D4F467A_3D37_4ABB_B42A_A4D372A4A4D4.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Romark on September 02, 2020, 10:17:52 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 02, 2020, 12:07:57 PM
Top work there. I reckon the colour selection is excellent. Very tempting to go back and look at the Empress Volksgrenadiers now.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 02, 2020, 12:38:10 PM
Thank you chaps.

Yes, Empress are very nice minis for sure....anatomically better etc.....but I have to say, I find these Warlord minis more animated, which for this game, suits where I think they should be.  I see more figures dashing to reach safety and hugging cover...whereas the poses on the Empress are more upright, almost casual.  I want to feel the action, not just stare at perfect minis. 

If I needed larger numbers, I would of course add them in, but I have one of their mg team packs, and they are closer in stature to the Offensive Miniatures pack I bought.


Saying that....if I could find the right reason to buy one....I’d have a u-boat from them in a shot! Lol

Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: has.been on September 02, 2020, 02:02:45 PM
Quote
Saying that....if I could find the right reason to buy one....I’d have a u-boat from them in a shot! Lol

Would that make you a SUB Romanic Brit?
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 02, 2020, 02:24:19 PM
 :-[ :-[

That was bad!  ;)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 02, 2020, 02:38:37 PM
Both the figures in the Parkas and the Zeltbahns look quite good! Great work on them and top job at converting them!

They do look like very action ready lot!  :D
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 02, 2020, 03:57:24 PM
Cheers bud.  Yup, glad I did the zeltbahns but now exhausted my supply.  I’m not looking for any more of them....just thought it would look an interesting combo.

Hopefully I have a few Artizan minis coming soon from Northstar which will bump the number of gun crew I need for the Pak40.   Can anyone tell me, does the junior leader need to be based separately or with the rest of the crew please?  I’m inclined to do him separately so he can be used elsewhere with other chosen options when necessary.   

I don’t recall ever putting more than three crew on any gun when I did rapid fire, 6 seems a lot!  Luckily I have a few mdf round bases big enough....
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Scrubber on September 02, 2020, 10:49:13 PM
Operation Greif. Do yourself some German GI’s that will confuse the opposition.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 02, 2020, 10:53:58 PM
 lol

Maybe a few American MP’s and I had thought of buying a panther and painting it green.....

Mostly I’m just concentrating on my core platoon and limited support options.

Still painting the core platoon, but once my additional AT crew arrive, I should have the following based and primed for painting.

Sniper Team
Flame Thrower Team
Forward Observer
HMG Team
Pak40
Additional Squad
Senior Leader

Vehicles currently owned
Hanomag
STuG
3 x Pzr IV

Other bits to buy, Infantry Gun, Tank Crew, Schwimwagon, Jagdpanther.

I can’t find any combat pioneers without spending too much to represent minefield clearance / obstacle clearance teams.....so I may need to get creative.


I also intend to make a start on some scenery.   

I have some Renedra palisade fencing which I intend to combine with hedging.  Usually only see either fencing or hedging stand alone, but I want the two inter mingled, much of it “doubled up” ie with the hedge growing against / through the fence.  The palisade fencing looks old and it should complement the idea.





Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 03, 2020, 04:05:35 PM
Regarding the PaK here's a picture from the Bundesarchiv showing five crew. It depends at times. Of course you can go realistic, but some games like Bolt Action use simplified crew numbers. Alternatively I'd stick to what CoC says.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/7,5-cm-PaK_40#/media/Datei:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-024-3543-09,_Ostfront,_Soldaten_an_7,5cm_Pak.jpg

Warlord Games do a Panther from the Ardennes campaign, ready with the camouflage and all to look like an american vehicle. I could check my Osprey book for more pictures on it though. From what I read the Greif troopers weren't popular though. And rightly so. Changing uniform violated certain codes of the Geneva convention to clearly discern enemy combatants.

Amusing as it may be, Skorzeny himself said, the faux M10's that were actually Panthers would only fool american recruits. In the dark of the night. At a distance.  lol

Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 03, 2020, 04:18:20 PM
Agreed.....not really the focus of our games I think!

Thanks for the crew picture......yup, I will have five crew but I also need five for the IG.18...AND I see I’m supposed to have five on the MG42!   I’ve already based that as a three....I may just have to have a few standing troopers to dot about it.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 03, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
I've sourced a couple of spares with ammo boxes that I add to the gun crews supplied with the model as a separate base - and I usually do the Junior Leader separate for Chain of Command. As I'm unlikely to field a PaK, a LfGe and a HMG on tripod simultaneously, it kept down the amount of painting time required.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 03, 2020, 06:09:10 PM
I don’t believe it...was looking for something else and found a bag of crew I didn’t even know I had!

Ok....5 plus a junior leader it is!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/97F5C573_5DF0_43FC_970D_66FE1281C74A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 03, 2020, 10:15:21 PM
They're quite good. I particularly like the bloke sitting on the stabilizer/towing implement. Nice! Looking forward to seeing them painted!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 05, 2020, 08:04:24 AM
They are a mix.  Artizan older winter crew / newer winter crew and a warlord guy from the mortar pack.   Still leaves me with extra crew for the IG.18.

I have a fortnight off now and the intent is to get the rest of these minis and support options painted (except the AFV’s).

We’ve reached a decision on buildings.  My collaborator has a thing for laser cut and I’m a stickler for resin.   With that in mind, I’m going to concentrate on more rural areas, and he on urban.  I’ve just placed an order on Total Battle Miniatures for their farm and a few other out buildings as I will concentrate on that first.

In time I would like to add a chateau and a church, also from the same supplier.

If I end up playing Eastern Front....there are others in the group with plenty of scenery I think!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 05, 2020, 10:19:44 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing these all painted up. I shall watch with interest.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 05, 2020, 05:42:58 PM
Well this is what I have to paint the next two weeks...

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/EF7FAA21_B188_4F5B_93C4_C5B8586A3042.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Splod on September 05, 2020, 11:40:15 PM
2 weeks? Nah, that's 2 days work for a prolific sort such as you ;)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 06, 2020, 08:39:52 AM
Hmmm.....if I was on my a-game, three or four days.  The camo takes a bit of time.

No, lots to do the next few weeks and painting has to slot in between times.

I’m chuffed with my choice on figures (admittedly most were forced up me) but for me, it’s often about the heavy weapons teams.  Each a vignette in its own right.  Once these are done, I can concentrate on some scenics.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Digits on September 07, 2020, 03:30:01 PM
A couple more.  I needed another officer and a few more riflemen.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/5D143CEE_73EE_49EF_84A4_08CF4B3449FA.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

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Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - zeltbahns
Post by: Romark on September 07, 2020, 04:14:48 PM
Nice putty pushing  8)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command - painting
Post by: Digits on September 11, 2020, 03:02:46 PM
I thank you.

So, finally, doubled up the number painted.  Pics are dark, sorry, very dull day here!  Better pics when I get home.

First up, the platoon HQ,  Hauptsturmführer Friedrich and panzerschreck team.

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Junior NCO

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Riflemen

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A pair of light machine gun teams

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A Sniper team and a Forward Observer

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The panzerschreck is a little darker than I wanted it as I’ve left too many paints at home,m I will rectify that when I get back, indeed, my dullcote ran out half way through spraying them all, so I need to do that too!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Truscott Trotter on September 12, 2020, 12:16:11 AM
Very nice work esp on bases and the autumn camo
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Digits on September 12, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
Cheers fella, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers for Chain of Command
Post by: Romark on September 12, 2020, 09:18:46 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: Digits on September 13, 2020, 05:12:57 PM
Ta.

Better pic in the sunshine.....progress thus far.  Another ten minis nearing completion so on course to get them all done in the next week I hope.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/4E504937_1DF1_4AF9_B2D0_70D2350CBF90.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/0AFBE529_ECB1_4515_9AA4_C8008501A090.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 13, 2020, 05:32:58 PM
That Winter officer model is quite good, also painted mine when I got him. Though in Sumpfmuster I think. For some reason the faces are not as goofy on the winter miniatures as opposed to the rest, really.

EDIT: Made it clearer that I meant the rest of Warlord's miniatures in the german range have odd faces, read itself weird beforehand.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: Digits on September 13, 2020, 06:18:19 PM
Yes, I noticed that on a lot of Warlord minis......these haven’t been too bad at all though.
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 13, 2020, 07:04:59 PM
Anyway top effort, looking forward to more pictures!  :)
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: Splod on September 14, 2020, 02:08:13 AM
I do really like the metal winter range. I just wish there were more figures!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: Digits on September 15, 2020, 10:00:24 AM
Agreed.

Anyway, struggling with light...but another ten minis finished....nearly there!

Some troops and nco.

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A junior nco for use with support weapon

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Two converted minis including a support senior officer

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And the slightly converted “heavy weapon” team.

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Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: vodkafan on September 15, 2020, 12:21:08 PM
"Wake up Ernst you dumkopf! It's your turn to take watch!"  lol
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: Digits on September 15, 2020, 04:21:58 PM
Yup...too much schnapps in his coco! 

Moving on last batch now.  I have a pair of LMG’s, an HMG, medic and flamethrower team.  The pak 40 crew are almost finished but I don’t have all the paints I need for the gun yet....

Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: has.been on September 15, 2020, 05:10:52 PM
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but I don’t have all the paints I need for the gun yet

Well there is a war on you know!
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - expanding the collection
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 15, 2020, 11:49:15 PM
Well there is a war on you know!

The same thing the crew for said gun said back then.  lol
Title: Re: Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - CoC - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 23, 2020, 09:50:28 AM
Holiday over and back into the thick of it at work.  No painted minis at the mo but I did get a few fence/hedges done using Renedra palisade fencing and rubberised horse hair.

This represents two packs of fencing so I’ve ordered two more.  I will play with distressing some of the fence in the next batch.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/805D8174_514D_4A1B_9DD1_CC18C7451952.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

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I’ve opted for an autumnal look with wind blown leaves caught up in the evergreen hedge.  I can sprinkle on snow for colder games.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Swordisdrawn on September 23, 2020, 11:37:31 AM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Romark on September 23, 2020, 01:09:44 PM
Nice work on those 8)
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 23, 2020, 05:15:16 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 23, 2020, 05:21:39 PM
Thanks all, it’s a start!

However, here is my main present to myself.....resin crack!  Thank you Total Battle Minis!

I was daft, didn’t see the farm set already had a lean to and ordered a second!  I can disguise it a bit to make the second farmstead with the half timbered house and stables.

I love the rubber mat it comes on...a little big / stretched so will need to infill the gaps but as I’m assuming they use the same material for their roads....that will be my next purchase.  The nice chaps also put in a little freebie statue!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/DFB829C6_0C1E_4719_98D3_87DF5B9E4EAB.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/7992DDAA_88DB_46A7_BBBC_155091813108.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

So, lots of painting to be done, including that nifty tractor I’ve had for years and done nothing with.

I’ve also started making more forest stands so plenty to be getting on with!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/31F5D7EC_0E00_488D_A676_AC767954AF40.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: has.been on September 23, 2020, 05:40:58 PM
I'm off to get a hot cup of tea. Looking at all this wintery stuff is making me cold.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Splod on September 24, 2020, 11:23:02 PM
Those TBM kits are a bit lovely! I particularly like the base-piece too  :)

Nice work on the fencing too. Keeping to an Autumn theme makes the terrain more usable too. You can have the odd bit of white-scatter to make the table colder, or mix in a bit more greenery for earlier in the season  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 25, 2020, 08:33:54 AM
Indeed, that was my thinking.   Would be a shame to plaster everything in snow and render it unusable for other uses.

I do need to get a bit more creative.  I’m even wondering WHAT could look more Autumnal than a pumpkin farm! Lol.  I built this for B&B games.....and I know the world record for the largest pumpkin was achieved in Belgium 2016! 

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/b76/DigitsDavid/1%20Burrows/.highres/5F4A37CB-BC17-4FCD-B60C-A5CE3A9FF829.jpeg)
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 25, 2020, 09:23:56 AM
Brilliant stuff... how did you do the pumpkins?
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 25, 2020, 10:07:57 AM
Bought a pack of Putkha seeds from hobbycraft and painted them orange!  Simples.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 25, 2020, 01:46:36 PM
Great stuff. Were pumpkins commonly eaten in the 40s in Europe? I only ask because in the UK they were virtually unknown. Even now it's pretty much Halloween only.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 25, 2020, 06:03:44 PM
They came to Europe many years before the conflict...and Germans certainly love them now....I can’t say.  But this is a game....if it wasn’t pumpkins it could equally be another Autumn crop!  Anyway, they will do until we can build more scenery.

We are having a play through the rules tomorrow.  Just been setting up the sign of the times shelter ready for the morning. 

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/1B7B2C33_1EB4_467A_B774_41418BB3FA1F.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 25, 2020, 11:54:22 PM
And a hurried job to finish another support option ahead of tomorrow....

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Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 26, 2020, 12:27:29 AM
Great work, if I can be slightly critical, where are they getting that dark green foliage camouflage in winter ? (yes I know.. Tannenbaum, das grunst..) but you would camouflage a ground unit with what was ground coloured.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 26, 2020, 12:48:56 AM
You’ve seen me making dark green hedges above?  I just looked at a few reference books and copied them tbh.   
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: has.been on September 26, 2020, 06:42:21 AM
Quote
you would camouflage a ground unit with what was ground coloured.

"But sarge,  honest it HAD snow & frost on it when we grabbed it!"
" Don't worry son, it's bound to snow in a short while"
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 26, 2020, 06:52:05 AM
There IS a little snow on it.   :?

Anyway....it was a rush paint job......they grabbed what they could!

Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: FreakyFenton on September 26, 2020, 06:38:17 PM
I like the terrain! The idea with the pumpkins is very creative and I will totally steal copy that idea once I can find fitting stuff here. The fencing is quite good and I like the approach of keeping it playable for different seasons.  :)

The hastily disguised PaK is nice. I quite like the painting of the crew as well. Further food to get cracking on my own stuff!  :D

Great job Digits!

Oh, and those farms look quite good. After reading the book by Peter White's "With the Jocks" about the fighting in Germany I might have to invest in a few farms as well. Most scenes revolve around those, be it as billet or as hideout for german Spandaus.

Besides, there's a scene described in which an MG crew had hidden their bunker under one such haystack. Maybe food for thought.  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 28, 2020, 02:57:12 PM
Yup, farms cover the vast majority of countryside, with exception of forests.  Makes sense.

So, had my first battle with theses fellas.

See here

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=127234.0

One thing very apparent is the need for more scenery.....

So, construction progress.

More coniferous forest sections, 4more feet of fence/hedge and 4 off 6” barbed wire sections.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/E4AC7E8A_7499_40E5_ABBD_2A00F7A51A4D.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Sanded only.   So I will paint these when dry before adding hedge pieces and the wire which will be my take on a triple concertina obstacle.

I need to go collecting twigs too as I want lots of wood piles to represent the forestry work in the area.

Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Splod on September 28, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
Lovely work! What are you using to base your terrain pieces?
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 29, 2020, 12:00:59 AM
2mm plasticard.  Easy to bevel the edges and a quick sandpaper roughs the surface up.

For larger pieces, like the tree bases, I use cork backed placemats.  Cheap and readily available everywhere.
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on September 30, 2020, 05:44:23 PM
So, another two sets of a Renedra palisade fencing.  This time, I distressed the fence in a few places and I have hit on a more autumnal finish so I also went and reflocked the first set.

Also, just waiting on the barbed wire to complete these triple concertina barbed wire sections.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/73414108_678E_47CF_805E_D705A797673E.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Swordisdrawn on September 30, 2020, 06:55:36 PM
Lovely work
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Splod on September 30, 2020, 07:43:38 PM
Cracking work!  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Digits on October 02, 2020, 06:57:29 PM
Thanks!

Last two mg teams for the support squad.. Artizan minis.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/65849F20_559F_4E00_AF53_55C3FEF34EC7.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

And a few more support options...HMG, medic and flame throwing team.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/F520D1F3_CDB2_4FA0_BA04_315F39B9902E.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: vodkafan on October 05, 2020, 07:45:33 PM
Nice work!
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers - a little scenery
Post by: Romark on October 05, 2020, 07:49:06 PM
Nice work on those  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Waffen-SS Panzer Grenadiers -Painting Houses
Post by: Digits on October 09, 2020, 11:33:22 AM
Thanks!

So, I’ve been quiet as I’m knee deep trying to finish these Total Battle Miniatures buildings.

They are great models, and I’m a big fan of resin buildings....but I hate painting anything bigger than a mini!  Still...very much work in progress, but I can now see where I’m going with them....hopefully another few days....

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/F16C6D5A_B31F_405E_BFD1_68B9F4371DAD.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/C96B1D63_3A11_44A2_A255_DB66B88D92A6.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)


And, I’ve been putting wire on the stands.  Need a little more to do the fourth yet.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/15BC5398_C759_4470_8B33_FE82A82854FF.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: gamer Mac on October 09, 2020, 01:49:19 PM
Even if you don't like painting big things you are doing a grand job :-* :-* :-*
liking the wire as well :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Digits on October 09, 2020, 04:01:11 PM
Cheers Mac....still a way to go yet.   I thin’ part of it is I get bored easily, but also, I find it hard to replicate schemes I’ve seen others do and it frustrates me greatly!  :?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Captain Blood on October 09, 2020, 06:55:19 PM
They look spanking  :-*

We all get bored easily - it’s why we flit, butterfly-like, from project to project lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Splod on October 10, 2020, 02:09:32 AM
Off to a great start! I particularly like the razor wire  :D
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: has.been on October 10, 2020, 10:33:11 AM
They will look even better when they have lots of tanks & infantry around them.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 10, 2020, 10:37:23 AM
Buildings look great  8)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: tancrede on October 10, 2020, 01:59:02 PM
Buildings look great  8)

I agree !
Very good work on those buildings.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: flatpack on October 10, 2020, 09:14:16 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Digits on October 11, 2020, 02:14:06 PM
Cheers guys, appreciate the feedback!

So, I need to clear the kitchen tonight for painting tomorrow so forced my hand to finish these buildings.

I’ve not done much with the interiors yet...I will save that for another time....and I’m sure there will be a few snags with this, but pretty much finished and ready to game over!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/A350CBFB_C3B6_4B42_A82C_7F8304490BF3.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9B3D7B64_ADCA_4A63_94B0_BFA8AB4D26B5.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/909D8567_B45A_4884_AB6E_EE0849EFAD13.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/539F655E_A439_4B56_A851_6197A8C9B4BB.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Digits on October 11, 2020, 02:16:41 PM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/46F5B78C_2A3D_4CAE_B239_714250C74B11.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/D5DBD867_79DA_46B7_B37B_F3AF26E12545.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

The wash on top of the lean too is drying hence a bit shiny in the picture.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/530733BD_6174_4860_8E95_56F95AB51F4D.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Captain Blood on October 11, 2020, 02:25:20 PM
They look absolutely top-notch  8)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: Digits on October 11, 2020, 03:14:51 PM
Cheers Cap’n!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painting Houses
Post by: gamer Mac on October 12, 2020, 12:24:07 AM
Cracking job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 12, 2020, 06:10:55 PM
Cheers Mac.  Still have another half timbered house to do some time and in the future, I’d like to buy their chateau, cafe and perhaps church.  But there is no rush for them.  Jamie has half a dozen laser cut houses which match in easily enough.

We have talked of extending this to cover Normandy....hence no snow....but that can be sprinkled on. 

I need ideas on other scenic bits to add.  Also, if anyone can point me at other Western European buildings in resin ( can’t afford Grand Manner) I’d appreciate it.....ta
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: commissarmoody on October 12, 2020, 11:06:28 PM
Oh damn, those do look nice.  :o
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 13, 2020, 08:14:45 AM
Cheers mate.

Forgot to add arial pic of the yard and lean to /  sty roof.

In doing  so, I noticed I forgot to paint window frames! Lol. I will get round to them one day!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/94B5AC5F_D0A1_4F7C_A329_97C0784101A4.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: commissarmoody on October 13, 2020, 08:17:07 AM
Nice, are you going to pick up more from that line of terrain?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 13, 2020, 08:41:12 AM
Yup, I like the chateau and I need a church I think.   I have some roads on order from them too.  Nice models, great company.  Just wish they would expand the range a bit...
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Shahbahraz on October 13, 2020, 09:51:57 AM
Yup, I like the chateau and I need a church I think.   I have some roads on order from them too.  Nice models, great company.  Just wish they would expand the range a bit...

I love their models, but looking at how many I would need/want...  the pricing is a bit rich for me.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: tancrede on October 13, 2020, 10:22:32 AM
Very nice models, and the painting is really good.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 14, 2020, 07:13:47 AM
They are very nice models....but unfortunately yes you pay for that.  They are not as pricey however as some I’ve seen and at least you can buy them unpainted, unlike Grand Manner who have restricted a collectors choice somewhat.  Tbh...these are better in my opinion anyway.

Cheers for the comments.

Added flavour...had this tractor for years.  Not the most convincing paint job, but I think it adds character to the farm.   I have some barrels and junk somewhere to add and I notice warlord do a set of 1:56 farm animals.  I will get a few next month perhaps.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/0780DAF3_FF95_471B_BDA3_12A4A8813F7A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

And because I forgot the windows!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/F2C1CDE9_7D11_4399_B346_E6BE3AE96B69.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Poiter50 on October 14, 2020, 07:42:32 AM
Have a look at Warbases Animal range.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Silent Invader on October 14, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Very nice project 8)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: gamer Mac on October 14, 2020, 10:48:18 AM
Are the houses attached to the base?
Tractor fits the bill
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 14, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Cheers guys.

No, the base is a good solid rubber mat.  Made from the same material they use for the roads I think.  Slightly stretched, possibly Ofer time, the mould maybe.  There are gaps at the base of the houses....but in play, I may just fill with a little dark sand or ballast to represent a stoned bed.

I have tracks coming soon hopefully.

We have a game coming up this weekend too, so pics next week of the houses being used in anger.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Captain Blood on October 14, 2020, 11:18:29 AM
I’ve ordered a couple of their timber framed buildings on the strength of your handiwork  :)
Never really noticed this company before, so thanks for the lead. I’m interested to see what they’re like in the flesh. As you say, certainly a lot cheaper than Grand Manner, and being able to buy them unpainted is a major bonus.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 14, 2020, 11:21:05 AM
I don’t think you will be disappointed!

Link for anyone else ( I promise, no commission involved!   :? )

http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: has.been on October 14, 2020, 12:38:24 PM
Quote
I may just fill with a little dark sand or ballast to represent a stoned bed.

Now I understand the need/want for 'Black sand'
 I will see what I have got.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Painted Houses
Post by: Digits on October 14, 2020, 01:06:32 PM
Muchas grassyarse !
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 14, 2020, 08:26:41 PM
More trees should we need them

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/F27A5052_70E1_442A_9574_80D3E8B3F5FC.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 15, 2020, 05:24:49 PM
Not the most impressive build I guarantee...but a quick metal animal shelter for the farm.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/D09DDDEF_C93A_47B5_9B5B_BBE59C0D8977.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: commissarmoody on October 16, 2020, 01:06:01 AM
Looks good to me, some times simple is best. And nice forest.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Splod on October 16, 2020, 04:16:07 AM
Love that rusted out shed! The ground cover for those trees is looking a bit green however  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 16, 2020, 06:03:41 AM
To match with my other existing trees tbh.  Scatter snow on though and they will be fine.  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: vodkafan on October 16, 2020, 07:26:30 AM
All looking good Digits.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 17, 2020, 05:06:47 PM
Before today’s game...see take the farm batrep, Jamie presented me with my AFV’s, which he has spent hours on painting and winterising For me!  I LOVE them!  Cheers mate.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/6CC9709B_AC17_49A3_9321_2129FA8002F1.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/36B2A3B2_DB20_41A9_8E77_0434DE121FA3.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/BF4B0D5E_238C_4086_94A1_11301A3CB475.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: gamer Mac on October 17, 2020, 06:49:33 PM
Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
how did they do the white wash?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 17, 2020, 10:36:47 PM
It’s very technical....to me at least!  I will ask him to post up his methodology.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Splod on October 18, 2020, 05:39:20 AM
Lovely work! Every bit as nice as your own infantry efforts :)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 18, 2020, 08:27:56 AM
Cheers, yup he’s done me proud and they do complement the infantry very well.

Best of all, as we will soon start a slower build up to some Normandy gaming....he’s keen to paint my armour for that too!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Romark on October 18, 2020, 09:34:55 AM
Just caught up with all the updates,great stuff, love the shed too! :)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Digits on October 18, 2020, 11:06:37 AM
Cheers fella.

Yup, I think I need to make a few mor shed / huts as many of these games will be quite rural.

We also think we need a lot more fencing, so I will be doing some like Jamie made, posts and three lines of wire.  I will order another sheet of plastic are as I’m low on that.

We will also need more explosions to mark the boundaries of barrages.

I want to buy or make some jump off point markers, wood piles, farm debris, Telegraph poles, walls and when I get them, paint some roads.

In good time and pennies permitting, I need a church with grave yard, a chateau and perhaps one more building.

Jamie is going to concentrate on making defensive positions and some bombed out buildings.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: Romark on October 18, 2020, 11:47:28 AM
Looking forward to this :)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: gamer Mac on October 18, 2020, 12:15:29 PM
Looking forward to this :)
Me too
Looking for ideas to fill my own table
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: PrivateBuzz on October 18, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
In response to the question on the whitewash, here is a very rough guide to what I do.


Easy really.

I have had some real trials and tribulations over paint type/mix ratio with thinner and the chipping medium. I will not say what products I had a nightmare with, but I have, above, told yo exactly what I use now. All of this changes according to the temp in the room, the airbrush you use, the size of needle and the pressure you like to run. Even the technique that you use for the trigger! I have now finally found a recipe that works for me, my style of working and my brush. Yours MAY be different.

Hope that helps. I could have just answered - paint it, hairspray it, paint it white and remove some of the paint with water. But that wouldn't be quite as helpful!

Finally, go on YouTube and get some inspiration from Plasmo and Nightshift. Two exceptionally good modellers. Plasmo works his magic on 1/76 stuff and is a bit of a genius. Nightshift works on 1:35 and will make you laugh as he makes you feel unskilled and inadequate! Thank you to both.

Jamie.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Tractors and Trees
Post by: gamer Mac on October 18, 2020, 11:34:04 PM
Thank you very much for the extensive answer
A lot of work but well worth your end results
cheers
 
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 19, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
Indeed....great run thru Jamie!

Having left me with bamboo and wire on Saturday, I decided to make some wire stock fencing like his.  My grandad, a farmer, would be spinning in his grave after seeing what a hash I made!  The wire goes round in random ways at times! Lol

I will get the next lot right, but for now I’m out of 2mm plasticard.  Going to pick up some livestock next month....

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/F745F342_195B_4340_80C1_1F88D4CDF54C.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

I also picked up some twigs whilst walking the dog yesterday to make these wood piles.  Add a little pva soaked tissue for tarps.  Good scatter scenery.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/8F597082_B925_4879_B5D0_42D435090F71.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Shahbahraz on October 19, 2020, 02:38:16 PM
Never mind the random directions, it looks great. I struggle with this and I really like your colour selection, it very much works. Mine on the other hand is much too bright. I've been very tempted at times to just airbrush mist a dusty shade over everything from houses to bushes to roads. Except I know I would stuff it up... :(
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 19, 2020, 05:32:24 PM
Shabby, you could just try using an artist sponge?

Dab on little patches and build up from that?  Different outcome admittedly but can look good too?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Romark on October 19, 2020, 05:48:36 PM
Great additions to the collection 👍
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Shahbahraz on October 19, 2020, 06:56:50 PM
Shabby, you could just try using an artist sponge?

Dab on little patches and build up from that?  Different outcome admittedly but can look good too?

Certainly worth a few experiments...
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: TacticalPainter on October 19, 2020, 09:13:30 PM
Very nicely done on the winter camouflage. The hairspray method is well worth trying and not that difficult to pull off for a very nice effect. One other application is with a burnt out effect. A base colour of browns and blacks, then hairspray and then the tank’s colour.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/qYdUYq.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poqYdUYqj)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Roo on October 19, 2020, 09:22:05 PM
Don’t have any WW2 in a large collection but this is rapidly a go to thread due to the fantastic eye candy, quality stuff gents. 
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: gamer Mac on October 19, 2020, 09:25:32 PM
Lovely job on that sherman  :-* :-* :-*
This is a great thread full great ideas
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Ash on October 20, 2020, 10:29:04 PM
I like that burnt Sherman, great job on the painting.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 21, 2020, 02:42:49 PM
Hmmm...deciding what to do next.  I’m open to clutter ideas but meanwhile, I have one sheet of 2mm plastic and...I can get two fencing strips roughly 12” long and two minefields from this.  I’m a little short of wire so will need to pinch some from Jamie.

I will make a hut to go with the animal shelter as useful LOS blockers from:the strip of foam card.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/947BB9A5_0696_42AC_84E6_AE07385B40DF.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

And I need a bag of clump foliage to finish them, but I’ve made 6 more explosion armatures as it’s necessary to mark the area of effect for battery fire.  I currently have only four useable ones, the others being too 40k for this game.  Tempted though to buy a plastic cow and have it feature in one of them.....

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9C3F3C7B_5B67_46DF_8A12_A94C9AB01622.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)



Non terrain news....I have decided to buy a King Tiger....iconic AFV’s that will rarely if ever see the table, but it won’t be whitewashed...instead, I like this picture taken in Hungary, and Jamie will try and replicate it for me.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/B3F3BF16_5891_4DEE_8848_EC1AB8598AC9.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

If anyone can suggest other bits of miscellaneous scenery, I’m open to suggestion..
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Shahbahraz on October 21, 2020, 03:32:43 PM
Are you going with the Warlord Pzkfpw or waiting for the Rubicon one? I ended up building a Bandai 1/48 kit which is massive. It has the Porsche turret as well, which I believe really limits it to Normandy only.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 21, 2020, 03:52:22 PM
No, going with the Warlord base one with H. Turret I think. 
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 23, 2020, 06:28:16 PM
A quick and useful little shed

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/BCFCBFD8_9D54_4F05_B369_5E4FE2FB0BD6.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: gamer Mac on October 24, 2020, 12:23:13 AM
Very rustic, nice :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 24, 2020, 10:44:11 AM
Cheers.

So a couple more pieces of stock fencing.  I want to get some walls soon too.

I don’t think I can stress the importance of fencing/hedgerows/walls etc on the battlefield.

Each in their own right offering differing degrees of cover, or none in this case.

I also feel adding bits of hedge or shrubbery breaks the monotony of a fence line and improves the look of the table.

When I get a bit more wire, I will make a grassed / collapsed section too as well as one or two further section.  This particular fencing is great demarkation for road boundaries etc without blocking lines of sight.  Btw Jamie’s idea, not mine, but happy to copy!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/FE87EDD0_D90A_4436_8AF8_49A744C736F9.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)



Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Splod on October 25, 2020, 05:15:02 AM
That is some fantastic looking terrain, Dig! Especially in a game like CoC, these linear obstacles that block movement but not lines of fire make for really interesting battlefield obstacles. It also means that sappers and engineers have a use on table  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: gamer Mac on October 25, 2020, 11:04:14 AM
Cracking job on those  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Can you tell us where the wire comes from?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Fences, woodpiles and other clutter
Post by: Digits on October 25, 2020, 11:12:37 AM
You can get it on eBay.  This isn’t spiral wound...you may want to get that, especially if you want to do concertina barbed wire as well.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: Digits on November 04, 2020, 03:37:36 PM
Been a little busy so not much done....but I have painted a few metal cattle.

Looking a little sorry for themselves however!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/85FAE71B_471C_4468_BF23_67864AF9FA99.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Useful “scatter terrain” offering a little possible cover for a team I think.  Will do for both the Ardennes and Normandy games.  Seeing as I painted them as Normande Shorthorns.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: gamer Mac on November 04, 2020, 04:31:06 PM
I know they were a common sight in Normandy but I wouldn't like to hide behind a dead cow
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: Digits on November 04, 2020, 05:59:39 PM
If that’s the only cover available, you would.  I can imagine them to be as effective as sand bags! Lol

I remember reading when they were filming Saving Private Ryan, they shot many, many rounds into dead cows, presumably for sound effects!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: gamer Mac on November 04, 2020, 06:04:14 PM
I imagine they are a bit more squishy than sand bags lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: Shahbahraz on November 04, 2020, 06:14:45 PM
And they very quickly smell a lot worse.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: has.been on November 04, 2020, 07:45:57 PM
Wot no cow in the middle of an explosion?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: Digits on November 04, 2020, 07:51:20 PM
I need plastic cows for that.....but it’s coming! Lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: gweirda on November 04, 2020, 07:51:42 PM
"...they very quickly smell a lot worse."

From George Wilson's "If You Survive":
 ...one of our tanks accidentally ran over a dead cow...there was the terrible mouth-filling stench to add to the gore...I fell down on my hands and knees and was retching miserably...

A trigger for shock?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock
Post by: Digits on November 10, 2020, 09:55:31 AM
Goodies received and ready for painting.

More Renedra fencing and a couple of gates from Magister Militum.  Realising you can not have enough fencing!

Plastic bridge from Warlord.  Reasonably sized and wide enough for large tanks.  Just needs a river next!

Jump off markers from TFL, a fantastic fuel stack of Jerry cans from Baueda (lovely casting) and a larger fuel drum marker from MM.  Not sure why it has a figure hole but easy to sort out.

Oh, and the cows have arrived so I can look at a few gory looking explosions Pete!  ;)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/6DA5A16E_65BD_465C_82B5_C39474F2058F.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Digits on November 10, 2020, 06:52:21 PM
WIP. “Bovine Blast!”

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/D69C62C4_9FF3_4126_80E9_01F107FDA384.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Shahbahraz on November 10, 2020, 08:02:54 PM
oh very good sir! I'll look forward to seeing that painted.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: has.been on November 10, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
"Steak expensive?"
"Well Beef is going up"
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Calimero on November 10, 2020, 09:52:23 PM
"Steak expensive?"
"Well Beef is going up"

 lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: has.been on November 11, 2020, 06:58:09 AM
Or...
 
The steaks are high in this game!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Digits on November 11, 2020, 08:37:46 AM
They remind me of the old A-Team explosions which always had a barrel going up.  It must be the methane in these cows causing them to launch like this! Lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: PrivateBuzz on November 11, 2020, 11:45:31 AM
Wow, they look great. Nice humour too.

But please, everyone, stop encouraging has.been's bad puns.

There, that's todays beef out of the way.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: gamer Mac on November 11, 2020, 01:33:40 PM
looking good if a bit gorry
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: has.been on November 11, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
Quote
There, that's todays beef out of the way.

I shall stew over your comment.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Shahbahraz on November 11, 2020, 04:59:38 PM
Lucky most campaigns are summertime or the cows would be Friesian
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: has.been on November 11, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Quote
Lucky most campaigns are summertime or the cows would be Friesian

Not HERD that one.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Digits on November 11, 2020, 07:04:45 PM
You’re milking it, there’s a lot of bull being discussed here!  I’d love to steer it back on trail and show you the finished model, but once again, I am not amoosed as photo”pail” are being udderly useless and I can’t upload it.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: gamer Mac on November 11, 2020, 08:02:05 PM
Please no moo re :D :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: flatpack on November 11, 2020, 09:12:03 PM
I thought about doing the same thing with some small lambs, but was a bit sheepish about it.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Digits on November 11, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Ewe had to go there!


Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Scrubber on November 11, 2020, 10:21:01 PM
This may not work, so sorry if it’s a blank page.
David sent me it earlier on iPad.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: Digits on November 11, 2020, 10:34:41 PM
Cheers fella!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes - Livestock/Deadstock
Post by: vodkafan on November 12, 2020, 11:30:04 PM
Oh no! Poor cows....
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on November 22, 2020, 07:51:15 PM
So, I think I mentioned earlier that we will also be looking to the battle in Normandy.  After much head scratching, I have decided not to do more SS, but I am fascinated by the role of the Fallschirmjager.  I want to do these to represent either Fjr. 6 “The Lions of Carentan” or Fjr. 9 as I have a few books around the fighting in Saint Lo.

I am also gathering a few Panthers (that Jamie is painting for me) and I will be using these as Panzer Lehr, so I may do a few troops for that too.

For the paratroops, I will be mainly using Artisan miniatures with support options  from Warlord.


However, I need to find good paint guides for the Fallschirmjager.  Mostly what I’ve seen represent earlier in the war.  Any suggestions welcome.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: vodkafan on November 22, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Can't help with any painting information, but will look forward to seeing what you produce!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Truscott Trotter on November 23, 2020, 01:27:28 AM
Artizan have a paint guide as does SHQ
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: has.been on November 23, 2020, 09:42:05 AM
I too will look forward to seeing your work.
JC always refers to German Paras as, 'Falling screaming Jagers'
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on November 23, 2020, 12:29:47 PM
Ha!

Try Scott, cheers, I will take a look.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Truscott Trotter on November 23, 2020, 11:25:50 PM
In addition to those these are a couple of my favs
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: brunei35 on November 25, 2020, 07:37:13 AM
there is a another step by step on this blog https://thewargamingmonkey.blogspot.com/2016/08/how-to-paint-fallschirmjager-1943-45.html (https://thewargamingmonkey.blogspot.com/2016/08/how-to-paint-fallschirmjager-1943-45.html)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Shahbahraz on November 25, 2020, 07:58:47 AM
This is the best one I've found, step by step with great results.

https://moitereisbuntewelt.blogspot.com/2015/12/fallschirmjager-colour-guide.html

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on November 25, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
These are all great thanks..I have a sneaky my scheme will be a mix of elements from these.  That last in particular being gw paints.... I’m trying to use less when it comes to ww2 uniforms as I tend to find them a little shiny.  However, some useful camo tips etc.

Thanks all.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Shahbahraz on November 25, 2020, 01:00:25 PM
https://moitereisbuntewelt.blogspot.com/2014/03/step-by-step-splinter-pattern-camouflage.html
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on December 05, 2020, 11:24:40 AM
Well I’ve amassed the minis I need for the Fallschirmjager, 80% from Artizan and a few support options from Warlord....snipers, flame thrower, tripod mounted MG42, PaK40 and a recoiless gun.

There are not enough unique  mmg teams available at Artizan  (they have 4) so I also have a plastic sprue from warlord and there are a couple on there I think so I will make those up and mix them in.  Like the SS, I want every mini to be a unique one. 

There are a few too many Artizan minis with MP40’s or pistols than I need, so I may tinker with a couple....

I know that strictly speaking, the recoiless 10.5 probably didn’t see much (if any)  action in Normandy, but it’s characterful and we will just have to agree a “count as” unless I can find CoC stats for it.

We are not in a rush for Normandy as to be fair, we have a significant Ardennes offensive to work our way through.  However, it would be good to slowly get them done as we want to expand to Big CoC games with friends.  With that in mind, Jamie is already painting up some Panzer Lehr tanks for me.  Hopefully, our chums will have some 28mm of their own too.

Anyway, I shall start cleaning them up and basing them shortly.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Truscott Trotter on December 07, 2020, 03:16:00 AM
Sounds like an excellent collection
May I ask where you got the 10.5 cm recoilless from?
Might be interested in one of them myself.
AFAIK they fought mainly in Russia and Finland though maybe Italy too?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on December 07, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
From Warlord mate

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/german-fallschirmjager/products/fallschirmjager-10-5cm-lg40-1-recoilless-artillery-1943-45?variant=31469048758352

Been looking at Victory Force minis.  They look a little taller than the Artizan...but so long as I only use a couple, they can easily just pass for tall chaps!

Does anyone know of a UK supplier by any chance?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: vodkafan on December 07, 2020, 10:00:19 AM
No UK supplier I know of. I have a few German  Victory Force miniatures if you want to do a comparison before you send for any? Not FJ just a couple of NCOs with Mp40s
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on December 07, 2020, 10:01:23 AM
Do you have any Artizan minis to stand them against mate?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Ash on December 07, 2020, 11:12:50 AM
I've just been looking at Victory force as well, shame they have to travel so far. Could do with another bren team and some riflemen...
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Painting Fallschirmjager?
Post by: Digits on December 08, 2020, 04:59:12 PM
Going to hit the same problem with my Panzer Lehr too.  Artizan only make 18 minis.  That includes one MG42 team.   So I will need to make up the balance with late war in zeltbahn and in smocks to disguise the short (or lack thereof) tunics. 
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 23, 2020, 11:07:17 AM
Hmmm....nothing achieved for the last few weeks, been busy.

But stupidly, I have bought a few bits which is getting piled up awaiting attention!

I bought a box of warlord volksgrenadiers  to put with the Panzer Lehr.  They appear to have short tunics so should fit in I think.


So...here’s what’s on the table to do (or will be following Christmas Day!)

Buildings to paint

Chateau
Church
Timbre Framed Building
Ramshackle Barn

Scenics to Make up and Paint

Bridge
About 10ft of Warlord Plastic and TBM resin walls
More Wire Fencing
Another box of palisade fencing
Jump off markers
Rubble piles
7ft of railway line

Figures
Platoon plus supports of Fallschirmjager
Most of a platoon of Panzer Lehr




So, have my work cut out, especially as I’m also playing with other projects! Lol


Thankfully Jamie is painting a few AFV’s for me and he’s making some great looking bocage, buildings and other scenery for out games too. 


As it happens, we are desperate to start our Ardennes campaign following lockdown and there is a LOT of gaming to go go with that....so the Normandy minis do not need doing in any hurry.  Will be good to get through the scenic stuff though....very useful for the campaign.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: has.been on December 23, 2020, 11:48:58 AM
Wishing you well for all that work.
I look forward to completion pictures.
Hopefully seeing it all sometime in the new year.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Shahbahraz on December 23, 2020, 12:29:00 PM
I'm also looking forward to seeing what you do.

I confess that the Rubicon King Tiger kit finally tipped me over the edge, and coupled with a voucher and Warlord's 3 for two deal, I now have a Volksgrenadier Sturm Zug, and a Tiger Ausf B on the workbench, awaiting paint. Of course, this means I also need to build a whole winter terrain selection as well.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GvqgNrXgnkk/X-JUR4-os9I/AAAAAAAAFNM/aRPNVh3kD3EVkPOvnEPx7PMFGwh67C9BgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1210/inf.png)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 23, 2020, 03:14:09 PM
Funny you should mention it...Jamie asked me to get the Rubicon King without Zimmerit instead of the resin one I had.   He’s going to paint it up to match my winter tanks. 😉

Good luck with yours....
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Shahbahraz on December 23, 2020, 03:34:54 PM
Funny you should mention it...Jamie asked me to get the Rubicon King without Zimmerit instead of the resin one I had.   He’s going to paint it up to match my winter tanks. 😉

Good luck with yours....

yep, that's the one I am assembling. I can't find any evidence for whitewash finish in the Ardennes though. Poetic license required :)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 23, 2020, 07:13:50 PM
Admittedly not much evidence...though this one was whitewashed to half way up it.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 27, 2020, 06:34:22 PM
Decided to open my Christmas present from the missus. 

Decent sized pieces of kit!  The church is a good size and will dominate a table but the Chateau is a lovely building!  I don’t know why but I thought the base to be made of rubber like the farm set but it’s actually resin.   Going to have to find somewhere safe to store it. 

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/C058EAD7_BD44_47FB_B873_C0171118B859.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

It comes with wallpaper so you can decorate each room.....not sure I will do that yet, but it’s an option.  It will be a tough nut to crack in any game though.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/88344171_6DB4_4ABA_AA68_234BBC7AE3FC.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)


Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 27, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
I have also been putting together some Warlord plastic walls and cleaning up a few from TBM too.

Paintwork this week....


Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Captain Blood on December 28, 2020, 09:05:18 AM
 :o wow. The chateau is an impressive lump!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Eclaireur on December 28, 2020, 09:48:33 AM
The Total Battle Miniatures chateau looks a beauty  ;D
very impressed that they put the wallpaper in there!
EC
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: flatpack on December 28, 2020, 06:24:45 PM
I can see the wallpaper that they supply, but can’t see the pasting table or stepladders ?...
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Splod on December 28, 2020, 08:30:48 PM
You're amassing quite the urban sprawl  :D
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 28, 2020, 09:55:43 PM
I can see the wallpaper that they supply, but can’t see the pasting table or stepladders ?...

I’m sure if we ask Pete to look through his lead pile...... ;)

As for the collection...yes, I must admit their models are fantastic.....as such, I have ordered a few others, I may as well complete the collection.....let’s hope they don’t start releasing more!  lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: has.been on December 29, 2020, 11:43:08 AM
I could provide the stepladder & pasting table, but the Chateau
looks to be beyond the 'Lick of paint & spot of paste' stage.
What you need is a decorator (hands on hips, head tilted to one side,
with note pad & pencil) working out the sizable quote for repairs.
Difficult to include the sharp intake of breath that would go with it.

Nicer, & makeable, would be the remains of a brass bed hanging out
of the upstairs.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Scrubber on December 29, 2020, 01:01:10 PM
It’s a good job the plane you gave me never made it to eBay.
Once world returns to something like normal and we can travel and see friends again, you can have it back.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: gamer Mac on December 29, 2020, 01:25:21 PM
What scale is the Anty Ju?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Shahbahraz on December 29, 2020, 01:44:14 PM
I fancy one in 1/48, but I can't really justify the cost of the Revell kit for a very infrequently used piece of table dressing. But it would definitely be done in the camo from 'Where Eagles Dare'.  :)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Scrubber on December 29, 2020, 01:53:06 PM
It very heavy in metal. Says made in China.

Artizan 28mm British para for scale.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Poiter50 on December 29, 2020, 02:50:37 PM
Is that the Franklin Mint one?

It very heavy in metal. Says made in China.

Artizan 28mm British para for scale.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 29, 2020, 03:12:06 PM
Cheers Brian...we will get a chance to play with it finally!   

It is 1:48 Franklin Mint diecast, going to either play it on the ground, or make a serious flying stand!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Eclaireur on December 29, 2020, 08:59:42 PM
there's a Franklin Mint one in that colour scheme on eBay for £227  :o
some interesting alternative colour schemes on the JU52 for as little as £148
on the other hand there's a Revell kit for £39.95 !
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: has.been on December 29, 2020, 09:10:42 PM
Quote
there's a Franklin Mint one in that colour scheme on eBay for £227  :o
some interesting alternative colour schemes on the JU52 for as little as £148
on the other hand there's a Revell kit for £39.95 !

Honest! Mine has just taken off, you just missed it. ;)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 29, 2020, 09:29:16 PM
This one is slightly damaged tbh.....but glad it can feature now.

Been thinking of uses for it.

SAS attack on airfield.....jeeps, guards, German staff cars etc......need to find a couple of same scale Foke-Wulfs to park up alongside it....  I shall start collecting!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Scrubber on December 29, 2020, 09:36:02 PM
Still needs that missing propeller and I need to find the air flap that fell off.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: commissarmoody on December 31, 2020, 10:56:38 AM
that thing is huge!  :o
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Stockpiling!
Post by: Digits on December 31, 2020, 01:46:38 PM
Yup...but I’m starting to think I may get a few 1/48 bits from 1st Corps to play around it....
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 03, 2021, 02:50:25 PM
Finally sitting down to start prepping my German paras.

First problem.....I need six MMG teams.  I have another that I’d forgotten to order on the way, but as usual, this range (Artizan) only has four unique teams.  However, they do have a few additional fellas carrying belt feeds, so I bought a sprue of Warlord plastics as there are two guns on the sprue.  Simply add a base to the Warlord minis to get the height up to match the Artizan minis and I will have 6 unique teams.



(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/6F22557F-61D9-4987-A90A-2C894C7F0DF1.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)



Query though....came across an old press release from Artizan regarding among other things, three different Fallshirmjager motorcycle combo teams.  I have not seen them anywhere....did they ever get released?

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Splod on January 03, 2021, 07:33:27 PM
According to a 2015 TMP thread (http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=401735):

Quote
Artizan are out until new masters are made. The moulds are shot beyond repair. It is BTD or conversions now. I'll hunt for any remaining Artizan ones as I have one already.

I'd be tempted to give the Offensive Miniatures ones a crack - EGFJ417: FJ - 2 X Motorcycle & Sidecar (6 figures) (https://www.offensiveminiatures.com/product-page/egfj417-2-x-fj-m-c-sidecar)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 15, 2021, 02:08:04 PM
I’m not in a hurry for them tbh.

Order turned up from Paint & Glue.

I ordered a small church / chapel but will comment on that when I’ve put it together.

For now though, happy with these haystacks.

The Jagdpanzer comes as a one piece print.  I knew I would be plastering it with foliage as an ambush predator, so wasn’t too concerned about print lines.   Yes they are very evident, and if I were to try and field it without foliage, I would need to spend a bit of effort smoothing down plates etc.

But have to say, for the money, not a bad piece.  It looses a little definition around the tracks and wheels but I’m a Wargamer not a collector.  By time we plaster a little mud there....who will notice?! 



I’ve also ordered some rail track from them.  Interested to see how they turn out.

Go check them out!

https://www.paintandglue.co.uk/
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 15, 2021, 03:49:09 PM
I’ve glued the chapel together.

For 28mm it really is only a little chapel.  Pop it in a base with a wall around it OpenDoc a few headstones and it will be a fine looking piece of terrain.  Printing is pretty good here and if you were thinking of printed buildings over mdf say, there is plenty of relief detailing.  I really bought this to check that, and being one of the cheapest / smallest buildings, I’m keen to see a larger one now.

If I have one criticism, I’d argue that the doors should not be made to look like double doors....just won’t work at this scale though you could use it for 15 or at a pinch 20mm.  No, it should be made single doored.   



Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Ceeteegee on January 15, 2021, 10:01:27 PM
Great work and good to see a vehicle from Paint and Glue in the flesh so too speak.  I've been considering picking up some 15mm pieces as the bits I want never made it into plastic.  I look forward to seeing it completed and bedecked in camo.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: flatpack on January 16, 2021, 08:35:39 AM
If this helps, these are paint and glue products, in 28mm.
I know what you mean about items never coming out in metal.
I like all the early war cheap and cheerful vehicles, but no one was ever going to cast them, as there probably wouldn’t be a market for the them.
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPw5ddLg/4-CEB99-B9-2-F1-C-4-BFA-BF9-D-8678848-B2727.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDM8nzT8)
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Indeed, there weren’t many options for the jagdpanzer in 1/56.

The other little addition, seeing as I have been concentrating on rural buildings, is this cheap and useful ramshackle barn from Renedra.   10 minutes to put together, multiperiod uses etc...  what’s not to like?  Not as imposing as my stone barns, this is an ideal stopgap between those and the little sheds I made.   Kind of more like a tractor shed than a barn, and being timber, it adds another visual dynamic as opposed all that brick and stone.

You can also see the gravestones I have.  I have an unbuilt box of Warlord walling, and think that’s what I shall use for a small chapel yard.   Not too imposing ( the TBM church is much bigger but more suited to the town I think) but will make a useful piece of terrain.

Even though I’m short of primer spray, I may make this up later.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 16, 2021, 10:46:54 AM
I was quite pleased with my P & G purchases.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q5cglkST-Ew/XjcIIECniWI/AAAAAAAAEjA/HTWdmk8jUo0IsXgZFyc3nFeg1V7Ou5n1QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/hago.jpg)

http://aleadodyssey.blogspot.com/2020/02/ha-go-in-jungle.html
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
Nice.

Ok, so a quick build up....just needs sanding and a little rubble around the damaged walls.  One chapel setting.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on January 16, 2021, 11:53:37 AM
That is very nice :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Do you think it would work for 1/72 scale?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2021, 11:57:08 AM
The chapel?  Yes.    Simply the doors are small so would be fine 1:72, 15/20mm

Anyway, I think you can scale their prints, if not, definitely worth asking.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 16, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Nice.

Ok, so a quick build up....just needs sanding and a little rubble around the damaged walls.  One chapel setting.

That is nice, but something bothers me about it, and I think its the cross not facing the same orientation as the building. I'm not sure if there's a hard and fast rule but to me somehow it doesn't look right.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2021, 02:14:51 PM
I haven’t glued in the little tower roof deliberately so easy to turn around if that is the rule.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2021, 04:37:30 PM
Here we go...sanded and primed.

Once painted, I will get lots of wall climbers, shrubs etc to break up the monotony of the wall and help age the chapel.   

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: has.been on January 16, 2021, 05:38:51 PM
Looking good. Can't wait to see it painted up.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: vodkafan on January 16, 2021, 10:52:01 PM
You'll never hide a Tiger tank in that building  lol
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 16, 2021, 10:54:13 PM
Maybe not, but a couple of MG42 with lots of hard cover will be a bitch to dislodge!
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: has.been on January 17, 2021, 12:51:07 PM
As long as there is no RPG, sorry I meant Panzerfaust, inside.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 17, 2021, 05:32:57 PM
I may need to change my nickname at this rate!  :?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 18, 2021, 01:53:31 PM
Didn’t get much painting done except for these deployment markers (Warbases) yesterday.

A little “admin” work.

Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: has.been on January 18, 2021, 05:37:08 PM
Are you planning to have little diorama versions as well?
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 18, 2021, 07:19:43 PM
Yes.  Bought a set of the Lardies ones but Jamie’s has the same.  As such, I’m going to make up a few of my own using crates, spare weapons off sprues and barrels.   For now though, these are perfectly adequate.   
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: has.been on January 18, 2021, 07:43:12 PM
Fair enough.
Are Jamie's covered in snow, al la Bulge?
If yes yours could be done up for Normandy (or vice-versa).
Just a thought.
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on January 18, 2021, 08:27:36 PM
Good idea mate
Title: Re: CoC - The Ardennes & Normandy - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 21, 2021, 02:41:05 AM
Here we go...sanded and primed.

Once painted, I will get lots of wall climbers, shrubs etc to break up the monotony of the wall and help age the chapel.

Yep, for some reason that looks 'right' - looking forward to seeing what you do with painting it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Deployment Markers
Post by: Digits on January 24, 2021, 02:01:02 PM
Decided to do a few more battlefield friendly deployment markers.  These use a combination of Warlord cargo piles, plastic weapons bits, resin barrels and a PLA German hand cart.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/A05FD0AB-AC85-42CA-8F53-0256F17DE89A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/5F8140EB-1B24-4D8A-834B-F78B558EE5EB.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Deployment Markers
Post by: has.been on January 24, 2021, 02:51:39 PM
Nice bits David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Deployment Markers
Post by: Captain Blood on January 24, 2021, 06:06:05 PM
Lovely job. Like those very much  8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Deployment Markers
Post by: flatpack on January 25, 2021, 07:07:15 AM
Nice markers David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Digits on January 27, 2021, 10:40:19 AM
Cheers guys.


So, I’ve been tinkering.   Jamie is currently working up gardens for his town houses, utilising laser cut green houses, sheds etc.

As I’m concentrating on more rural settings, I need to start putting together pig sty’s, chicken  coups etc but I also want to extend the Chateau.  In conversation, it came up to do a little formal garden for it and once I find a fountain I like, I will do so.

But I decided why stop there?   In my daft head, combining my love of cooking with wargaming etc...I decided the Chateau will be a two Star Michelin restaurant and so it needs its own produce garden.  To me, this is almost bordering on dolls house making, but I’m also in the school of if it looks good, it will play good.

So, I found a greenhouse courtesy of Iron Gate.....pla kit, bugger to glue but lots of cool details, such as trays and pots.

I’ve made a start on the produce garden and started making produce for it.    Will take a few days to get it completely done so here are a few WIP pics.

As well as using it for these CoC games, I can see the Chateau and associated area being used in all manner of other games and has been mentioned....could be a favourite haunt of local senior Heer / SS officers.......dirty Dozen anybody?

If interested, I’m building a small thread in Workbench on how to make produce.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/FD616565-E680-4715-AD98-848FAC22BE0C.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/1DDDD799-115C-4CB0-AF11-4056626BA6A6.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/19677664-C140-47F5-844E-E0C2989B4B09.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Silent Invader on January 27, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
Very nice  8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: has.been on January 27, 2021, 01:29:17 PM
Cheap green scouring pads make for great trimmed ornamental
hedges. Would look very nice around/near your fountain.
Make it low & it is a knot garden, tall & you have a maze.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: gamer Mac on January 27, 2021, 01:36:28 PM
Looking good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
peas look a bit big though ;D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 27, 2021, 01:52:16 PM
Looks great  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Digits on January 27, 2021, 02:08:50 PM
Looking good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
peas look a bit big though ;D

Then they is beans!


Cheers guys.  Pete, using N- gauge hedge for low ornamental hedging as Jamie recommended.  But I like the idea of a piece of topiary......lol


Another WIP shot as of last night....still lots to do....

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: gamer Mac on January 27, 2021, 04:15:54 PM
coming along great :-* :-* :-*
may have to steal this idea :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: has.been on January 27, 2021, 04:32:06 PM
Just one plot after another with you isn't it David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Digits on January 27, 2021, 06:44:11 PM
Hmmmm.

Started planting out.    Luckily I seem to have a number of different green stuffs.....I suppose the more shades the better the look.    Need to concentrate on making cabbages and cauliflowers tonight I think.....hoping to finish this over the weekend.......I just keep hitting a mental block on the back wall.....the depth of the mortar lines isn’t great, so not sure how to tackle them just now.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: bluewillow on January 27, 2021, 08:27:57 PM
Nice looking garden

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: has.been on January 27, 2021, 08:32:48 PM
Is it just me, or is anyone else developing an urge to drive a tank over all that
 nicely painted vegetables?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Ash on January 27, 2021, 09:34:38 PM
Great piece of terrain.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Truscott Trotter on January 27, 2021, 11:18:18 PM
Is it just me, or is anyone else developing an urge to drive a tank over all that
 nicely painted vegetables?

a Tiger at least!  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 28, 2021, 08:02:42 AM
a Tiger at least!  lol

I'm sure he plans to have an 'after' version complete with tank tread marks and smashed fencing...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Digits on January 28, 2021, 08:14:11 AM
Funny enough....I don’t!


Meanies!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: has.been on January 28, 2021, 12:50:59 PM
Quote
Funny enough....I don’t!

But David, you must. Don't forget with foodstuffs involved it will be a
War of... Nutrition!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Digits on January 29, 2021, 03:56:11 PM
Talking of tanks....Jamie just handed me the first of my Normandy armour...they are BRILLIANT!  Really chuffed with these.

Once I get some crew painted up, I will set up some better pictures.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Calimero on January 29, 2021, 04:18:25 PM

Really nice indeed. Are they Rubicon models?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: gamer Mac on January 29, 2021, 04:24:22 PM
Lovely :-* :-* :-*
just in time to help you make tank tracks through your garden :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Digits on January 29, 2021, 05:20:51 PM
 >:(  I told you, the Germans love eating here!


Warlord tanks.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant!
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 29, 2021, 11:31:16 PM
>:(  I told you, the Germans love eating here!


Warlord tanks.

He's done a very nice job then, the Warlord Panther models are not bad out of the box, but not great. It's a compliment to ask if they are Rubicon. (IMHO)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant Garden!
Post by: Digits on January 30, 2021, 12:12:13 AM
I agree....he’s done a VERY nice job. He’s doing a Tiger 2 for me at the moment...winterised for the Ardennes.  That one is Rubicon and yes, nice but very detailed models.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Michelin Star Restaurant Garden!
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 30, 2021, 12:49:59 AM
I agree....he’s done a VERY nice job. He’s doing a Tiger 2 for me at the moment...winterised for the Ardennes.  That one is Rubicon and yes, nice but very detailed models.

The Rubicon Konigstiger is a lovely model - i may have posted it before?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XJnkKtq2kqk/X_X9-nI7OCI/AAAAAAAAFPs/FTekXlYLp0cSoavxFi5FasjN390b6WmIACLcBGAsYHQ/s1431/tigerIIb.png)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-n65RNMLMhpM/X_X9-f2hWkI/AAAAAAAAFPo/55cs8uknPuIwcG-VnpUTl8AGk_Fx2jB9wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1423/tigerIIc.png)

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finished Garden!
Post by: Digits on January 30, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
Nice!

Anyway, I have finished the produce garden....see if you can spot kitty?

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/7DF0DFA5-7B69-4369-AE77-DB215557CDA7.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/0E5FB72B-C1D6-4A75-B2DE-5FB56E3F718A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/6F787012-42A8-4361-B78F-4BEDE52D2057.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/D8ACDF38-F4EE-4E09-882F-A8AECBDA6A9A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/8436294A-7FF2-449C-AB55-51A6BF73B30F.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/865E0F3E-8B65-4651-BF11-5C269901D877.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/390ADDFA-503A-49FD-BB9B-9B82BA584EBD.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finished Garden!
Post by: has.been on January 30, 2021, 04:53:18 PM
Impressive, but I still want to drive a tank through it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finished Garden!
Post by: gamer Mac on January 30, 2021, 05:29:21 PM
WOW :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Love the different boundaries, fence and walls
Can't find a cat need my dog for that
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Digits on January 30, 2021, 11:26:02 PM
Cheers.   Yup, different boundaries give it a little character but I did it mainly to tie up to a few different fences and walls I’ve made. 

So, having done the garden, it’s time to get the Chateau painted...going to call it Chateau René (big Allo Allo fan) , my back story it being a restaurant as previously mentioned.

I will be making a small formal garden to go with it too, but not yet.

Today I cleaned up the resin, and washed it.  Priming tomorrow and a start on the paint.

But to take it a little further, I ordered a few Artizan miniatures and a German staff car.....to include senior officers and some guards.  I got Rene and Yvette too.

What’s driving me is we’ve started playing FFoL on line.  If I can get these done, I can think of the odd scenario we could play about it.   Anyway, a little early for that....but I would like to find the old warlord German Halt! Checkpoint set if anyone sees one.....ta.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 31, 2021, 12:11:58 AM
Don't Wargames Foundry do a German guard post?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Digits on January 31, 2021, 12:18:42 AM
Maybe a little small though?   I will take a look thanks.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: levied troop on January 31, 2021, 07:45:23 AM
That produce garden is gorgeous, looks good enough to eat!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 31, 2021, 09:18:30 AM
Maybe a little small though?   I will take a look thanks.

I knew they did one... https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/world-war-two-german/products/ww2g009-german-sentry-box-and-road-signs

I would have thought making such things would be a matter of moments for a master craftsman such as yourself...   :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: has.been on January 31, 2021, 12:09:30 PM
Digits not wanting to build a halt sign????
What's stopping him?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Warboss Nick on January 31, 2021, 12:46:54 PM
That garden is looking ready nice!

Why don’t you use the artisan checkpoint? The little box to stand in and a toll bar should be easy enough to scratch build.

https://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1383
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Digits on January 31, 2021, 02:01:00 PM
Yup, already ordered those along with a few guards in their thrilling tales set. 

I may well end up scratching the box and barrier yet....not a fan of the laser cut sets available.

Cheers
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: BillK on January 31, 2021, 02:07:07 PM
That garden terrain vignette is ridiculously good!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Digits on January 31, 2021, 04:10:31 PM
Kind of you to say so - thanks!

Chateau base colours going on....update pic soon.

I realise too a standard placemat is the exact width of the back of the model....perfect to form the formal back garden....may cut that out soon too.

Edit:  long way to go yet....

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Digits on February 02, 2021, 09:46:42 PM
But more done.

Going to get the outside finished.  Basically, windows and doors, sandbags, shutters and crest to go.

I’m going to add a few details.....planters, some lamp posts.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: gamer Mac on February 02, 2021, 11:00:01 PM
Looking good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I have a sentry box that was scratch built If you want to see some pics?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Digits on February 02, 2021, 11:33:22 PM
Cheers bud....I have plenty of reference though thanks....one for later.

Meanwhile....started working on back garden...early days.



Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René
Post by: Ash on February 03, 2021, 11:24:19 AM
Stunning result. Those roof tiles in particular look amazing.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René Painted
Post by: Digits on February 04, 2021, 12:20:03 PM
Cheers mate....but was missing a few bits.  Now done.   I will be adding a few planters when they arrive and the indside can wait until I’m really bored one day.....but for now the Chateau is painted.  Looking forward to gaming with it.

I’ve also ordered a nazi flag to be hung over the front entrance if I want to portray a headquarters for example.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/CA8EC828-ADB2-4FF6-811E-C1C7D19109FD.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/1764F6FA-0CEE-4536-B9CA-243CF5D1868E.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/F75123D9-00DE-4087-9A16-1139F6DA8BE4.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René Painted
Post by: gamer Mac on February 04, 2021, 03:09:00 PM
The lamp posts are a nice touch
Cracking paint job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René Painted
Post by: Digits on February 04, 2021, 06:00:34 PM
Yup they are Rubicon.....adds a little dimension.   WIP planter and my 1st Corps staff car arrived today.....

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René Painted
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 04, 2021, 06:15:34 PM
Well that's turning out Propper.

Big fan of the modular garden. I suspect I'll be more of a fan of the new garden module. Simply because it's already interesting( Veg garden's spot on. Just more interested in the formal. As I've never made for anything other than a formal Roman villa garden. It's already got design elements I've not seen outside of 1/4 scale .)

I'm looking forward to seeing what your going to do with the touring car. But then I would be as I've only seen one painted by me and stuffed it with the varnish.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René Painted
Post by: gamer Mac on February 04, 2021, 06:35:00 PM
Looking good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René Painted
Post by: Digits on February 04, 2021, 10:52:54 PM
You asked.  I still need to sort out climbers on the pergola....but apart from brushing the grass when it dries, I wasn’t going to go mad with it...after all...it is for wargaming on!

If anyone can recommend suitable garden table and chair set....?

I had bought a D&D fountain with Neptune on it....and I like it but my mother have me a little white ornament of a cherub on a sea conch which I thought rather charming.  A couple of bits of slate from the garden, a dash of paint and I like it!

The low box hedging, n gauge hedge, is Jamie’s suggestion...works a treat.

The fountain will come in for something else I’m sure....

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/E8FD5429-532A-413A-AF39-79E0B20CCDF1.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/13CE0F9A-4F91-4540-9006-960BBDA93474.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: gamer Mac on February 04, 2021, 11:13:21 PM
WOW :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The speed you are knocking these out is amazing
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Truscott Trotter on February 05, 2021, 04:05:45 AM
Bravo simply stunning.  :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 05, 2021, 11:19:53 AM
Cheers chaps!

I found a Rubicon furniture set which has a couple of a French style outdoor iron tables and chairs !   They should look good on the back terrace.

I will add the climbers to the pergola later to round off the garden.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Ash on February 05, 2021, 01:16:01 PM
Oh wow, you haven't lost your touch! Upped your game even, if I may be so bold. This is just super.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on February 05, 2021, 01:42:24 PM
Stunning work!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 05, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
Oh wow, you haven't lost your touch! Upped your game even, if I may be so bold. This is just super.

It’s a far cry from our heady 40k projects though mate....having to think smaller these days, but trying max the usage.  Plus, I think this lockdown is affecting my head!

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 05, 2021, 07:08:48 PM
This is the kit I’ve ordered for the chairs.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/E726D36C-7D36-4584-A6E2-D0C75DD2CC19.webp?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

And my order from Last Valley arrived today giving me another seven feet of bocage and tree lines.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/EC15EDEA-B9AD-4243-9E65-04F7A9337840.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Have one last thing to do on the garden....may sit and do it tonight.  Then I need to get painting.  This weeken, I want to paint the plastic walls.  Then I may try to start painting the Fallschirmjager.  Especially as I treated myself and ordered some British infantry for my Allied force.   I also may start painting minis for some skirmishing around the Chateau....
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 05, 2021, 08:27:06 PM
Garden finished!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: has.been on February 05, 2021, 08:45:53 PM
Roll on end of lockdown, so I can play with such scenery.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 05, 2021, 09:01:33 PM
So long as you keep your tanks off my lawn! 😉
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: gamer Mac on February 05, 2021, 11:51:47 PM
NEAT  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The chairs will suit
How do you gat the grass so neat and tidy?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 06, 2021, 08:41:24 AM
I always paint the earth beneath it then wash where I want with watered pva before sprinkling on the grass.  Leave it to dry then scrub with coarse brush to make it stand and to brush out any clumps.  Nothing special...I suspect it’s how most do it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: vodkafan on February 06, 2021, 09:55:03 AM
NEAT  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The chairs will suit
How do you gat the grass so neat and tidy?

Flymo- it's less bovver with a hover  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: has.been on February 06, 2021, 02:00:14 PM
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So long as you keep your tanks off my lawn! 😉

That's OK David, I was planning to go through the vegetable patch.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Chateau René formal garden!
Post by: Digits on February 06, 2021, 05:12:54 PM
Hmmm...may need to plant a new crop....of teller mines!

Furniture arrived with the post

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Warlord Walls
Post by: Digits on February 07, 2021, 10:52:05 AM
Finally got round to painting the Warlord Plastic Walls.

Built as they come, they are a little plain but the simple addition of added rubble at the damaged areas, along with a few hedges (deliberately differing from those along my fences for variety) and three or four flavours of tuft and I think they look sufficiently interesting.  To me very important as theses will cover 8 feet on the table.

So with the two fence types, these walls and the bocage sections....I must now have over 30ft of linear obstacle......yet I still have some resin walls to paint...and I need a couple more sections of wire fencing seeing as I have none with gates in!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Warlord Walls
Post by: Digits on February 07, 2021, 03:29:54 PM
Another quick paint job...this time the useful little ramshackle barn from Renedra.

A tad small for a barn but I have stone barn already...however as a tractor shed or garage, it will work a treat!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Warlord Walls
Post by: gamer Mac on February 07, 2021, 04:06:30 PM
Do you need that much walls?
How big is your table?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Warlord Walls
Post by: Digits on February 07, 2021, 04:15:08 PM
Do you need that much walls?
How big is your table?

Can go up to 6’ x 8’ for big CoC .  However we will mostly play on 6’ x 4’ .  It’s not so much about fitting it all on the table so much as being able to vary the look and play of the battlefield.    As I’ve said before, they all offer different challenges and different levels of cover.  The wire and post for example would offer no cover but a perfect field of view and are still an obstacle to overcome.  These walls offer hard cover and are an obstacle plus the can block los depending on elevations. Etc etc.

So, I bought one of the cheap ribbed doormats and thought I mat try and turn it into an acceptable ploughed field.   I’ve cut off a small section to trial it.   Let’s see if it turns out ok......

First up, I’ve pretty much soaked it in watered pva and sprinkled coarse sand over it.....I will let it dry then spray prime it black before dry brushing up in browns....I suspect it will sponge the paint..so I will use pots of exterior paint to start it off.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Warlord Walls
Post by: dbsubashi on February 09, 2021, 08:53:57 AM
I have at least that much linear obstacles. Once I realized that if I wanted to line both sides of 2 roads making an intersection, that I needed at least 20 feet, all bets were off.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: Digits on February 16, 2021, 07:25:14 PM
Yup...and as I’m about to paint a load of railway track...that will need fencing in too probably!

Anyway, thanks to powers that be, I can post again!

A few bits done, minefields and entrenchments.   

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I also decided to buy a Charlie Foxtrot sentry box. 

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 16, 2021, 09:16:15 PM
I do like the minefields . I Normally added a couple of mine's . Plus a second strand of barbed wire on the fence facing away from the enemy. As its the polite way to mark them. (Two is to stop friendlys becoming accidental geography. )
That way you can do lazy mine field's to fill the gaps between the  minefields bases with just two strips of fencing on one strip with one strand and one with two( plus they can get recycled as domestic fences for other games.)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: Digits on February 16, 2021, 09:37:44 PM
Makes sense.  Hadn’t thought about the second wire.  Tbh..I didn’t really research it, I just went with what I thought looked cool.  The little red rags are cut strips from a cotton hanky!  I have the rest of the Hank on standby for tarpaulins etc...

Cheers
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 17, 2021, 04:50:32 PM
Absolutely nothing wrong with these as they are.
Nothing ever goes totally by the book.( You'd be worried if it did) Big believer in if it works for you then it doesn't matter if its not to everyone else taste.
Totally and utterly managed to loose my point in translation. What I ment was . Minefields look great. If you make strips of wire fence in the same style as a strip of hedge or wooden fence. (Reguardless of the friendly fence having two strands ore one.)
You plonk them between a couple your minefields. That way you cant build large minefields and have additional features in side mined area's such as objectives.

On a slightly different note. I've already done a water tower/pump station, and was planning on an electrical substation.As I like the idea of ' real life' objectives. Had you noticed the Sarissa Electrical substation kit. It'll take a little tweaking. Just because I think it's an interesting alternative to the useual sabotage targets on a table.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: Digits on February 17, 2021, 08:55:05 PM
Hmmm....great idea, I will take a look thanks. 

As for the fence line “extensions....sounds like a plan, cheers.

My printed track sections arrived from Paint and Glue.  I had thought they were printed with ballast.....I was wrong.  Going to take me a while to do and paint, but useful. 

I also painted my Warlord bridge.   Going to have a go at making my own rivers I think.  That will take me a little while.

Now there is light at the end of the tunnel (debatable if you ask Hasbeen!) I thought I’d start reading Bloody Bucket ready to start our campaign.   I’ve realised I need to paint a few more Germans and pick up a couple of support items.   That will take priority now me thinks.

Lots to do....
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: has.been on February 17, 2021, 09:12:26 PM
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Lots to do....

Alexander the Great was supposed to have sat down & wept, when he thought
he had 'done it all' and had nothing left to do.
No such worries with us wargamers, eh?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: Digits on February 17, 2021, 09:28:53 PM
Quite! 😉
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: Truscott Trotter on February 18, 2021, 11:50:32 PM
Alexander the Great was supposed to have sat down & wept, when he thought
he had 'done it all' and had nothing left to do.
No such worries with us wargamers, eh?

Well he could've done what Flames of War did with WW2
When you get to the end start at the beginning again  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: bluewillow on February 19, 2021, 04:39:44 AM
Liking the minefield and the walls, really nice job.

The warlord walls look like the italeri ones, a little low for my liking for Normandy villages.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: gamer Mac on February 19, 2021, 04:08:57 PM
Nice work the chateau is looking grand
thanks for the inspiration :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Engineering Works
Post by: moiterei_1984 on February 21, 2021, 01:51:06 PM
Liking the minefield and the walls, really nice job.

The warlord walls look like the italeri ones, a little low for my liking for Normandy villages.

Cheers
Matt

Well, that’s probably due to the fact that these are virtually the same product in a fancier box with an even fancier price tag  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Troops
Post by: Digits on February 23, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Reading requirements for Bloody Bucket, I realise I don’t have enough troops holding StG44’s for the Sturm platoon.   Scrabbling about and pretty much using the last of my plastic bits, these are the best I can come up with.  Should look better when painted up.

I also needed an IG18 infantry gun.....yes, I know it looks lop sided......but it was a bitch to glue together! Lol

Painting next....

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Troops
Post by: has.been on February 23, 2021, 05:23:59 PM
Looks fine to me David, besides after you've stuck
some foliage/camouflage on it no one will notice.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Troops
Post by: Digits on February 23, 2021, 05:30:06 PM
True.  Tbh...the picture looks better than in real life!  New one on me!

It was daft things like axle being too thin for wheel holes, front plate being crooked etc....that and my usual superglue proved bloody useless with the metal...not usually an issue.

But you are right.....a little foliage.....
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Troops
Post by: has.been on February 23, 2021, 05:31:52 PM
...and now you know why I prefer AFV to airplane models.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Troops
Post by: Digits on February 23, 2021, 05:57:53 PM
To be fair....an aircraft in metal WOULD be a sod!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 24, 2021, 08:58:40 AM
I bought about eight foot of printed 1/56 railway track from Paint and Glue.

Worrying it would be laborious to paint and ballast, I wanted to come up with the easiest and quickest way I could of painting it, simply three colours...and I’m happy with the result.

Here are my test pieces .     Now to do the rest.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 24, 2021, 10:18:38 AM
Loving the new stuff
 I've only 3ft of track on an embankment painted. I know I need at least the same again,and a station. But the thought of painting it again is definitely off putting as it ate paint and totally shredded brushes.
I have to confess I wish I'd thought of your solution. Even more so as I scratch built the track .
At the risk of jumping the gun. Are making a train for the track? As it seems a lot of track to go with out one.
It's other big issue I have with finishing the railway scenery for my own table. As I've simply not found a European style ( or English) engine that looks right .Short of spending small fortune on an O guage engine.
There's loads of nice looking engines for Wild West games. But not for WW2 unless you go armoured train. ( already made one.) I know I'll end up making one out of cereal packet at some point. It's not a real stretch from previous builds its just I begrudge the amount of hobby time it'll eat.
Do have an Engine in mind or are you in a similar boat?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 24, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
Tbh...I hadn’t actually decided to add a train at all......to me, there are miles and miles of rail line criss crossing the continent and at any one point in time, they would typically be devoid of a train!  Often running alongside roads etc, to me, an obvious piece of terrain often with large stretches of fencing alongside it, it’s a difficult obstacle at times to cross.

I was going to ask paint and glue to look at a few train pieces though. 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 24, 2021, 01:48:21 PM
Absolutely agree that's why mine's on an embankment and each section has a point at which figures could cross as each section has brambles ,walls and fences . Just to make choke points that can function as objectives.

I mainly skirmish game on 3'×3' and 4'×4'. The main reason I want to add a station and a train. Is childhood memories.
The train station because of the  scene in Bedknobs and broomsticks.
The train because I always fancied gaming the train siege in the Original 'The lady Vanishes' ( come to think of it . that would explain my current obsessive search for decent tree's since I've start looking at building a train.)

I think that's probably what I'm asking. I'm planning on a train and or a station, as an additional set of scenery pieces that allow for more scenarios and objectives. As well as the obvious set dressings.
Is that a long term goal. Or will be now I've got you musing?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 24, 2021, 03:08:51 PM
A station and its associated out buildings and infrastructure is certainly an interesting focal point to fight about I agree.   Even a simple cattle dock and platform for a country halt.

Not high on my list right now but a possibility in the future perhaps.   


Edit:

I just think they look cool as they are.  Quick set up to demonstrate. 

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 25, 2021, 12:29:02 AM
Well I'm not going to disagree.  :D You always make a cracking piece of scenery.
Which serves to prove my musing. We spend all this time making wonderful terrain and give little more than the status of an obstacle.
When in reality they are terrain fearures with function. I've observed over several years many a game and club . Where theirs a total lack of understanding of infrastructure both of how it relates to and functions with in a landscape.
Your plan and logic for your use of railway is perfectly formed for your goal nothing to contradict or critique. You make a cracking table. I'd be well chuffed to play on it let alone own.
The main reason I talk about adding thing's such as stations , signal boxes, Water tower's , and electrical substations.
Is because they allow you to elevate the use of such pretty scenery and make it a focal point on a table. Especially when you go to such efforts .
Your absolutely right in your accretions on miles and miles of open track. Being just that and having little function in game's with rolling battles for arguments sake such as a blitzkrieg. It's still ( in your case) going to be a cracking table.
But in game's in the vain of an operation Sealion. Infrastructure and amenities have value as objectives and means of control. Once you no longer control the power and the water your under a siege . These can become little tableaus with in. Bigger games.
I think we as gamer's see such places and features. With the in the context of our peace time lives and treat them in that way on the table. Either ignore their role and existence or treat them as a minor and inconvenient obstacles in getting from A to B.
I know sounds a little long winded and self indulgent. It's just in a previous life I happened to have a very rough paper round  ;. Where understanding environmental mapping played a big role.
So I tend to look at things slightly differently.What makes me especially found of your projects is your attention to detail that's often missing from many a pretty table. Such as gardens, yards ,and paths. These are things that subconsciously effect your movement through an environment and it carries across onto a table .People will move figures differently if you add paths and gardens. They won't and can't dive across the rear of  buildings in the same way as they do if these features are absent.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 25, 2021, 09:53:22 AM
I understand exactly what you are saying.   Yes, I agree there are a plethora of opportunities to create mission objectives and added interest to any battlefield.

If I were going to game using only a handful of minis, I do think adding that level of detail is warranted, indeed absolutely essential.  That’s kind of why I’m doing a lot more detailing around the Chateau precisely because I intend to make it the focus of a small scale Dirty Dozen type game where such things as a radio tower / shack for example will be a paramount objective say to prevent reinforcements or call in the extraction.  It is on the list.

I have to balance this with CoC, a slightly larger game where objectives are still important but the game focuses more on gaining ground or destruction of the opposition.   Objectives  can simply be holding and control of a road junction, tree line, river crossing  etc.  In this instance, I have to balance having space to play, with the desire to put on what is hopefully a good looking and immersive battlefield. 

In my opinion, probably echoing yours a little, I often hear the excuse for simplistic terrain being “we’re gamers firstly”.  I don’t fully understand this, as indeed you’ve pointed out, the more bare the table, the less terrain features as a fundamental part of any game.   

I am mostly simply of the school however, if my opponent has gone to all the effort of spending time painting and collecting his minis, the least I can do is try to give them the setting to match, and hopefully add to the enjoyment and remembering of a game.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: has.been on February 25, 2021, 10:46:25 AM
Well said you two.
I like a pretty battlefield & the tasks it will give.
I abhor the sterile, both sides exactly the same, so that it is fair.
War is an art, not a science.
Pretty every time for me. I will see how can I use the battlefield,
(normally very badly I'm afraid).
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 26, 2021, 12:45:24 PM
Absolutely! 

I prefer the challenge of not only weighing up the differences between opposing forces, but trying to exact every crumb of potential use of the terrain. 

Still been thinking about terrain additions.  In no particular order:

Paint the buildings I have (circa 9 to paint)
Paint and ballast remaining rail track
Pick up a couple of bits of rolling stock.
Paint remaining dirt tracks
Build and paint river
Add Teddy Bear fur Fields (Jamie doing those now)
Create a couple of ploughed fields (given up on doormat version - looked crap)
Hills
Radio Tower / comms building
Additional Wire Fencing
Battlefield Wrecks
Make a few more sheds / log stores / veg patches / outhouses for formed back gardens
Build pond
Buy  / build large Bridge (I have a painted Warlord stone bridge but want something larger for say Market Garden objective)

As for minis....I still have the Fallschirmjager to paint and my British infantry have turned up!

So, plenty to go at.  Time to paint some more minis though.  Hopefully , a few more of my painted vehicles are arriving later today too  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: gamer Mac on February 26, 2021, 02:48:33 PM
Cool some interesting ideas on that list for me to steal
looking forward to your progress
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 28, 2021, 10:41:13 AM
Since my long winded waffle on your thread. I've been but my money where my mouth is and gathering the bits and bob's required to finish my own railway and roads situation.
But on the bridge front. I've already done a little research.
It seems the best option is re scale.
The two options I'm most tempted with( although the second is looking most likely.)are these two.
I'd be tempted to add a pair of external foot paths to both.
The suspension bridge is just shy of £25 and requires building. It's a bit like 4Ground kit in that it's pre coloured.(red or an off black.) Only drawback is sooner or later the suspension would take a sausage fingered hit.
The box girder is just shy of £14. But comes premade and ready to abuse with a rattle can. Its around a foot long and 8.5cm wide and 8cm tall. I haven't any vehicles of the top of my head that wouldn't fit in side it. As the girders do narrow your access.( but could be tweaked.)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 28, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
I like the plastic one...would need to see it against a few minis but as you say, may be tweakable.  I’ve seen a few about....but I need a river first, then I will decide, but as you say, especially for CoC, I would want side paths.

Being chatting to Paint & Glue chap....very helpful.   He has STL files for a number of trains and rolling stock including but not limited to this selection.  I am waiting on a price for the top engine and three of the box cars in the second picture.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 28, 2021, 11:46:31 PM
That's a quite a nice and chunky little engine .When you do find out it's like to cost .Would it be possible to let me know as well( obviously not if its a mates rates situation.). As it's really nice from time to time to paint something I haven't made.
(That said I've a real Butterfly urge. To sculpt two Welsh men and a small dragon curled up a sleep .I think that'd work nicely.)

Mark.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on February 28, 2021, 11:58:29 PM
Unfortunately not mates rates so happy to share when he comes back to me Mark.


Edit:

So yesterday I finally finished painting my TBM dirt roads.....all 26feet of it.  Also in the pic the Warlord bridge....pretty good span on this.  Needs a river though!








Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: gamer Mac on March 01, 2021, 12:48:58 PM
That's a quite a nice and chunky little engine .When you do find out it's like to cost .Would it be possible to let me know as well( obviously not if its a mates rates situation.). As it's really nice from time to time to paint something I haven't made.
(That said I've a real Butterfly urge. To sculpt two Welsh men and a small dragon curled up a sleep .I think that'd work nicely.)

Mark.
i don't see what relevance Invor and his engine have to wargaming lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: has.been on March 01, 2021, 01:01:15 PM
Gamer Mac, you had better tread Caerphilly.
You don't want to upset the Welsh.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: flatpack on March 01, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
Especially today. 🥳
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: gamer Mac on March 01, 2021, 02:24:25 PM
these jokes are getting worse lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Sturm Platoon & Railway Tracks
Post by: Digits on March 01, 2021, 02:36:13 PM
Stick around....they can do MUCH worse yet!  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Digits on March 03, 2021, 12:33:37 PM
So finished up a few more support options for the Ardennes.  These were necessary as we are about to start Bloody Bucket.  I needed more Stg 44 armed Sturm and support in the way of an IG18.  Decided to add loose crew that can be used on other guns if needs be.  The junior leader was painted previously.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: gamer Mac on March 03, 2021, 12:39:46 PM
Nice like the winter camo :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Digits on March 03, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
Cheers.  Realised as I was putting them away that I’d made seven Sturm......and completely forgot to paint one!  When you are a little ocd .....leaving it now isn’t an option!

Luckily I still have four Artizan riflemen to be painted so on with them now.


The support options I’m missing now are really pioneer options.  I fear I will be hitting a lot of obstacles in this campaign....

I’ve ordered myself a box of Warlord blitzkrieg pioneers and intend to use the metal parts on late war German minis,  winterising  them to give myself half a dozen or so appropriate pioneers.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Poiter50 on March 04, 2021, 12:09:42 AM
I wish WLG did the metal Pioneer pieces as a separate pack, they are a really useful set. I tried to buy the metal pieces separately on a Nottingham store visit years ago and they wanted 20 quid just for the metal parts, so I bought the whole pack for about 9 quid more.

Cheers.  Realised as I was putting them away that I’d made seven Sturm......and completely forgot to paint one!  When you are a little ocd .....leaving it now isn’t an option!

Luckily I still have four Artizan riflemen to be painted so on with them now.


The support options I’m missing now are really pioneer options.  I fear I will be hitting a lot of obstacles in this campaign....

I’ve ordered myself a box of Warlord blitzkrieg pioneers and intend to use the metal parts on late war German minis,  winterising  them to give myself half a dozen or so appropriate pioneers.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Digits on March 04, 2021, 01:10:47 AM
Yup, I nearly bought a set of the metal parts on eBay last week before realising someone had removed the backpacks.

I agree though, a separate set would make sense.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Digits on March 04, 2021, 02:21:47 PM
Ok, missing Sturm trooper and the four Artizan rifles.  Thought I’d paint a few tank commanders whilst at it.

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And one for Normandy whilst at it.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Marine0846 on March 04, 2021, 02:25:30 PM
Great looking tanks.
Really love the big cat. :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: has.been on March 04, 2021, 03:06:36 PM
Lots of nice stuff David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Romark on March 04, 2021, 05:17:03 PM
All good stuff  :-*👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Tommy20 on March 04, 2021, 06:07:14 PM
Your figs look great!  I'm especially impressed with the camo.

Agreed about Warlords metal bits.  I bought both the Blitzkrieg Germans and US Rangers just to get them.  Wish they would sell them in a blister...

Who makes the roads?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Digits on March 04, 2021, 07:45:50 PM
Total Battle Miniatures, they make metalled roads too.  Pretty comparable cost wise with other manufacturers.

Thanks for comments.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: vodkafan on March 04, 2021, 10:45:21 PM
I really like the Panther commander.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 05, 2021, 04:38:36 PM
Cheers James.

Well, Jamie just handed me my first two British AFV’s...a lovely pair of Achilles Tank Destroyers.....beautiful!

I need to get on with ordering some crew for them...but I suppose more importantly, I need to get on with painting a British force ready for our Normandy games.  I have time a plenty as we have an Ardennes campaign to play out first, but I like to be prepared.

Planning on on having  a BIG CoC Normandy game in the Summer, complete with fine British Weather and BBQ with the guys, so with that in mind, I handed Jamie my reconnaissance troop of three Cromwell’s and a Sherman Firefly to complete my  British armour.  Other bits to support it include a Humber II, a couple of Universal carriers, a halftrack  and maybe a pair of trucks....but they can all wait until nearer the time.

I also have a platoon of British courtesy of Crusader miniatures with a few Artizan minis to make up numbers. 

Of course, Jamie is ALSO collecting British...so lots of choice...!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 05, 2021, 05:23:42 PM
Little did the passing destroyers realise how close to their maker they came when they passed the hidden killer lurking at the edge of the woods....

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And not far away, forward elements of Panzer Lehr inch their way forward.

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Again, from the talented brush of Jamie!  I need to paint the infantry for that too!   lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: gamer Mac on March 05, 2021, 09:15:18 PM
Cracking  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 06, 2021, 12:37:00 AM
Love the picture in the tree's very atmospheric.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: vodkafan on March 07, 2021, 05:21:15 PM
I have almost a full platoon of British painted years ago..they are the old Chiltern ones, they might need touching up and a few more painted..I remember I was in the middle of converting a platoon radio man and one with a captured panzerfaust 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 07, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
Sounds to me James with a little tweaking then, you pretty much have a force to play with!

Edit:  another batch of wire fencing!


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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: gamer Mac on March 09, 2021, 09:44:09 AM
Like the Broken down fence posts :-* :-* :-*
is that deliberate or have those big cats been driving over your able again :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 09, 2021, 09:48:04 AM
Cheers fella.  Yes, I thought it necessary to be able to represent when a tanks or other AFV has broken through simply to remind any following troops there effectively is no obstacle there any more!

I could of course just remove a section of fence....but this looks better I think.

I now need the same on a stretch of wooden fencing!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: has.been on March 09, 2021, 01:20:15 PM
Nice touches David.
I just hope some awkward bugger doesn't drive backwards & forwards over all your nice fences,
so that you run out of broken bits.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 09, 2021, 05:45:52 PM

I will keep an RPG ready ( well Panzerfaust anyway) especially for any such vandal!

Going to get some Tommies based ready for painting.  I really should get Fallschirmjager painted, but feel the urge to paint something British, even if is a single section.

Jamie is currently painting my Cromwells.  I’d like to think I had a few infantry ready to accompany them for their “photo shoot”

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 09, 2021, 06:56:33 PM
I suspect the longevity and effectiveness of your grunt grinding the fixtures and fittings .Depends on whether he's using them as extensions to the mine fields. lol
Looking forward to see the Cromwell's as I've always had a soft spot form them. If I'm honest when I'm using a generic unit to a specific one I prefer them on the table to Sherman's.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 09, 2021, 08:07:27 PM
Yup, both mine and Jamie’s favourite British Tank.  I am having a squadron of three plus a Sherman firefly - Armoured reconnaissance



Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 12, 2021, 07:03:03 PM
Cheers James.

Well, Jamie just handed me my first two British AFV’s...a lovely pair of Achilles Tank Destroyers.....beautiful!

I need to get on with ordering some crew for them...but I suppose more importantly, I need to get on with painting a British force ready for our Normandy games.  I have time a plenty as we have an Ardennes campaign to play out first, but I like to be prepared.

Planning on on having  a BIG CoC Normandy game in the Summer, complete with fine British Weather and BBQ with the guys, so with that in mind, I handed Jamie my reconnaissance troop of three Cromwell’s and a Sherman Firefly to complete my  British armour.  Other bits to support it include a Humber II, a couple of Universal carriers, a halftrack  and maybe a pair of trucks....but they can all wait until nearer the time.

I also have a platoon of British courtesy of Crusader miniatures with a few Artizan minis to make up numbers. 

Of course, Jamie is ALSO collecting British...so lots of choice...!

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Those are lovely, but I would love to see some bods with heads sticking out of the turret and a ton of kit hung off the sides...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 12, 2021, 07:05:56 PM
I wish WLG did the metal Pioneer pieces as a separate pack, they are a really useful set. I tried to buy the metal pieces separately on a Nottingham store visit years ago and they wanted 20 quid just for the metal parts, so I bought the whole pack for about 9 quid more.

I'm in the same boat, I want some engineers, but I really don't need another box of Warlord plastics. Making the kit available separately would be a real seller I am sure.

Oh, and I feel the same about Shermans vs Cromwells, though I do comfort myself at least there are different Shermans.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 12, 2021, 08:14:51 PM
Cheers.  Rest assured I have ordered some Rubicon crew for the destroyers.

Your Sherman’s look great.

Jamie has finished my Cromwells and the firefly so pics once I have them.  Plenty of stowage on them.

And, as the pioneer box arrived today, I have been sat  starting to convert a few winter pioneers.  Should have them built tomorrow.  A few spare back packs for Jamie and I will put the others on eBay!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 13, 2021, 12:24:33 AM
Cheers.  Rest assured I have ordered some Rubicon crew for the destroyers.

Your Sherman’s look great.

Jamie has finished my Cromwells and the firefly so pics once I have them.  Plenty of stowage on them.

And, as the pioneer box arrived today, I have been sat  starting to convert a few winter pioneers.  Should have them built tomorrow.  A few spare back packs for Jamie and I will put the others on eBay!

Looking forward to seeing those winter pioneers, I have to confess this thread has been a real driver in starting my own winter Volksgrenadiers platoon.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 14, 2021, 04:36:12 PM
They should look better painted! 😉

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 14, 2021, 04:48:31 PM
They should look better painted! 😉

They look terrific. Nice work there.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: gamer Mac on March 14, 2021, 04:49:20 PM
Are the bits from the early war set?
Does nobody make a late war set?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: Digits on March 14, 2021, 04:56:43 PM
They look terrific. Nice work there.

Cheers fella.

Mac....they sell a few later war SS pioneers I think...but no winter ones.   I’ve used a few bits on panzer grenadier / Waffen SS plastics.  The metal prone figure is straight from the boxed set....simply adding tunic and disguising the jackboots fixes it.

I may do two  more troopers later  with back packs to make two teams.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - “ Die Engländer kommen !”
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 14, 2021, 07:54:58 PM
Are the bits from the early war set?
Does nobody make a late war set?

Yup, early wear set, the Pio backpacks, as well as the other implements that are all in metal. And I have to agree, it is a shame it isn't available separately as an upgrade set for other kits.

That out of the way, cracking work Digits, and looking forward to seeing them with paint on.  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Digits on March 15, 2021, 10:37:48 PM
Here you go then.

As I understand it, the pioneer backpacks were given to less than a third of the pioneers....so I can make up numbers with troopers already painted.

I think they turned out ok.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 15, 2021, 10:53:38 PM
Very nice. I have been trying to get closeups of the Pioneer equipment with a view to scratching some.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Digits on March 15, 2021, 11:06:35 PM
Fairly straight forward I think.

Personally, you could have them digging with spades, using a knife to probe the ground around a mine, placing satchel charge or marking out safe path through minefield.  None of these need much in the way of specialist equipment.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Truscott Trotter on March 15, 2021, 11:19:10 PM
Fairly straight forward I think.

Personally, you could have them digging with spades, using a knife to probe the ground around a mine, placing satchel charge or marking out safe path through minefield.  None of these need much in the way of specialist equipment.

That's what I did with most of mine. I did scratch build a couple of magnetic mine detectors for some armies but they were pretty easy.
For CoC you actually only need 1 or 2 Engineers figures of each type as their 2 meat shields in each team can be ordinary riflemen.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Digits on March 16, 2021, 12:01:54 AM
Yup, that’s I what I reckoned on above...especially as most of a pioneer unit weren’t issued with back packs I read.  So, yes, extra bodies filled with painted troopers.

Luckily most ranges tend to at least have a flame thrower team available.

Now to paint a few Brits for Normandy.   Thankfully Warlord have a set of British Pioneers.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 16, 2021, 08:30:54 PM
Your conversions are always interesting and effective.
With that in mind I thought you might find this an interesting take on a sniper figure and an interesting conversion in it's own right.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Digits on March 16, 2021, 08:35:47 PM
Ha!  He looks like he’s wearing a grass skirt!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: Truscott Trotter on March 17, 2021, 12:30:27 AM
He is!  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Winter Pioneers
Post by: gamer Mac on March 17, 2021, 09:38:03 AM
the Hawaiian woman's sniper team   lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - More painted support
Post by: DeltaBlue on March 17, 2021, 09:48:49 AM
I'm in the same boat, I want some engineers, but I really don't need another box of Warlord plastics. Making the kit available separately would be a real seller I am sure.

Oh, and I feel the same about Shermans vs Cromwells, though I do comfort myself at least there are different Shermans.

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may I ask who makes your jeep crew?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Digits on March 17, 2021, 11:22:44 AM
Hopefully Shahb will catch your question.

Anyway, I am chuffed to say Jamie delivered my Cromwell squadron yesterday.  Really pleased with them!

I also managed to paint a few test Tommies too.



Firefly covers the Cromwells advance towards the farm.....

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Digits on March 17, 2021, 11:42:55 AM
The troops move up to check out the farm.....

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on March 17, 2021, 11:53:58 AM
It all looks great when put into context like that.

Like you, I cannot wait to game. Not long now.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Gunner Dunbar on March 17, 2021, 12:46:20 PM
Lovely stuff
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 17, 2021, 01:23:06 PM
Hi Deltablue - the Jeep and crew are Westwind. They are slightly smaller than the Perry plastic GI I have, but it's not noticeable when they are in the jeep.  I think they are very convincing as a crew.

Digits the British armour has come out lovely. Nice job, very appealing set of pictures. I do like to see stuff like this, it's clearly practical and achievable yet sets a really high standard for immersion in the game. I'm pretty sure that's the same mat I have, so all I need to do is work on my other terrain :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: has.been on March 17, 2021, 02:08:29 PM
great work on the pictures David, and the AFVs are brilliant Jamie.
I think that if offered enough (£££££s) Jamie might be tempted into commissions.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Digits on March 17, 2021, 03:44:13 PM
Cheers guys.

Shahb......huge part of the game for me.   You want to believe you are there.....immerse yourself in the game and try and use the terrain / features as indeed you should.  I always remember other peoples games when they have put the effort into their setting.....I am just trying to carry on the courtesy.



Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Captain Blood on March 17, 2021, 04:07:50 PM
Great looking armour  :-*
Makes me want to dig into my ever growing pile of unbuilt Rubicon kits, and add some more AFVs to my Western Desert collection.


Shahb......huge part of the game for me.   You want to believe you are there.....immerse yourself in the game and try and use the terrain / features as indeed you should.  I always remember other peoples games when they have put the effort into their setting.....I am just trying to carry on the courtesy.

Amen brother :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: gamer Mac on March 17, 2021, 04:44:30 PM
Cracking Job on the AVF's the table is looking good too :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 17, 2021, 06:51:41 PM
Cheers guys.

Shahb......huge part of the game for me.   You want to believe you are there.....immerse yourself in the game and try and use the terrain / features as indeed you should.  I always remember other peoples games when they have put the effort into their setting.....I am just trying to carry on the courtesy.

Good stuff. Totally agree with your approach. It doesn't take much to make the scene just a little bit more believable. Little things like scatter terrain, using the same flock on different pieces, tarting up MDF buildings to make them more 3d, having convincing roads, trees and bushes... etc.  I suspect the most obvious thing is to actually look at reality and think about what might be reproducible.

Probably the one thing we are all guilty of, is not making things dirty enough :)  I suspect I should take my airbrush and mist 'dark earth' or similar over absolutely everything.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Digits on March 17, 2021, 09:16:32 PM
Yup, I think most like me would be scared of overdoing it!  I like a gritty looking troop to start with, I worry I’d ruin it trying to add more dirt!

As for scenery, I just tend to dust the bottoms of buildings and try to keep the same colours on dirt / ground on all my bases and scatter scenery......works for me anyway.

Anyway, a lot of it as you can see is Last Valley, so I can’t take credit for that!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: DeltaBlue on March 18, 2021, 08:29:44 AM
Hi Deltablue - the Jeep and crew are Westwind. They are slightly smaller than the Perry plastic GI I have, but it's not noticeable when they are in the jeep.  I think they are very convincing as a crew.

Digits the British armour has come out lovely. Nice job, very appealing set of pictures. I do like to see stuff like this, it's clearly practical and achievable yet sets a really high standard for immersion in the game. I'm pretty sure that's the same mat I have, so all I need to do is work on my other terrain :)

thank you sir
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Eclaireur on March 18, 2021, 02:21:23 PM
Fab stuff as always Digits  :) !
Tell the mate who did the tanks for you that the blue squadron markings (distinctive of a junior regiment in the armoured brigade) belong with the number 53 on the red square Arm of Service marking. Or alternatively red squadron marking (triangle in this case) goes with 51 on the red square.
EC
more info in this excellent guide
https://tank-markings.blogspot.com
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Digits on March 18, 2021, 03:39:21 PM
Cheers fella.

I don’t think I wii point that out to him though thanks, I’m happy with them and would not wish to upset him! 😉

I’m a gamer anyway, I don’t even put unit markings or insignia on my soldiers and it doesn’t effect my dice rolling! 😁
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on March 18, 2021, 04:30:12 PM
From the blog quoted above.

The position, orientation, style and size of these markings varied between units, but generally would appear on either side of the turret or hull. Armoured Car and Armoured Recce regiments tended to display them on the front and rear of the hull, while Churchill tank units often displayed them on the turret rear.

I rest my case.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: gamer Mac on March 18, 2021, 04:37:43 PM
Cheers fella.

I don’t think I wii point that out to him though thanks, I’m happy with them and would not wish to upset him! 😉

I’m a gamer anyway, I don’t even put unit markings or insignia on my soldiers and it doesn’t effect my dice rolling! 😁
No insignia may not effect your soldiers but it is a well known wargamer myth that a new painted unit will die first time out.
Good Luck with your new stuff lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on March 18, 2021, 04:47:00 PM
More.

Arm of Service flashes were also displayed front and rear on most vehicles, usually on the opposite side to the formation badge, although some units combined the formation badge and AoS flash into a single marking. Like the formation badge, these markings were officially supposed to be 9" square, but the size varied depending on the type of vehicle and the space available.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: Digits on March 18, 2021, 05:37:21 PM
No insignia may not effect your soldiers but it is a well known wargamer myth that a new painted unit will die first time out.
Good Luck with your new stuff lol lol lol

It’s ok...we will BOTH be using newly painted models!


Jamie, thanks for clarification fella!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Cromwells, Firefly and a few troops!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on March 18, 2021, 05:38:39 PM
Apologies for not fully developing my answer, but both of the last replies were in the rest periods between intervals whilst sat riding the bike on the turbo trainer. 1hour 20mins with a normalised power of 231w tends to be quite limiting to your ability to write (and breathe!).

So, to be precise, the AoS markings were on the front and rear of the vehicles, the tactical markings are on the turret sides (sometimes rear if you were in a Churchill so the infantry could see it more easily). However, the tactical markings were sometimes on the sides of the tank. Shermans had them on the appliqué side armour or just under the turret centreline. Some, very small markings, were put on the toolboxes on the side of the Cromwells.

Occasionally these tactical markings had a number inside them also that referred to the squadron position (like the shape did).

So my positioning is accurate. Where my markings deviate from accuracy is that the 7th Army insignia is for early war (North Africa) and not late war. It's a red on white/white on red thing.

If you were also going to be really pedantic the service numbers do not correspond to the correct tank.

However the insignia and service numbers were on the decal sheet so that was what I went with as life is too short to make custom markings for wargaming.

I went with the junior regiment colour of blue for the tactical markings as I liked the colour better than the others. So judge me on that too.

All of the above can be gleaned from the above quoted blog and from a quick Google image search of images from the IWM.

Right, I am getting cold after the training session and need to drink, refuel and shower.

has.been pointed out a few posts earlier that I can be persuaded to commission paint. Contact me if you are interested, I will discuss the markings and their location with you beforehand ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - the problem with MG teams!
Post by: Digits on March 19, 2021, 10:26:47 AM
I can thoroughly recommend his paintwork!

Ok, so changing the subject.

I am increasingly frustrated that every platoon I start to build, I am ALWAYS limited by the availability of an adequate number and variety of MG teams.

Certainly true of the Germans anyway but fair to say sections are based around their machine guns, and in for example a panzer grenadier section, there are often two teams.

At six teams per platoon, I want variety!  I may not be anal about unit markings but I do subscribe to the rule of cool, and where possible, I try to ensure that no tow figures are identical.  It’s not always possible as I’m finding with my Crusader Miniatures British rifles for example), but because of the way I choose to base my teams (including Bren teams), I like to think of them as mini vignettes.  My eye is typically drawn to multiple figure based teams, more so that individually based figures, so I want to see variety and interest.


Anyway, reason for rant.....chatting over how to represent my Panzer Lehr, I have an even bigger issue than normal!

For whatever reason (but I hate it when manufacturers stop mid release!) Artizan who are the only guys here in UK  who made Lehr minis that I can see, only released about 16/17 Lehr minis with only one mg team!


I should have decided not to do them.....the pain and anguish is too much for my slight ocd!

Anyway, pressing on, I realised the Warlord metal Volksgrenadier squad, in a short tunic (admittedly different cut) were not too dissimilar and that by adding them I can cover all the riflemen of the platoon and gain another mg team. 

A look on the plastic grenadier sprue and one chap is also in short tunic so turned him into a gunner.  Another in zeltbahn could easily disguise the fact he has wrong tunic on and one in completely wrong tunic, I have plastered in about as much clutter to disguise the hem as is possible!   I am still two teams light though!  Not sure what to do about them yet, but it really is annoying!

Anyway, not painting them yet, but left to right:  Warlord plastic with Artizan Lehr,  Artizan Lehr team, Warlord Volksgrenadier team, Warlord plastic grenadier team.


(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/ED819E28-3C8A-41BC-BC04-C0427A881398.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - the problem with MG teams!
Post by: vodkafan on March 19, 2021, 11:03:50 AM
Not sure if they do Panzer Lehr but 1st Corps do several variations in their MG teams both British and German so could mix in?
Caliver do a small range of Panzer grenadiers and Waffen SS you might not be aware of:
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=15&CategoryID=87&SubCategoryID=371 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - the problem with MG teams!
Post by: Digits on March 19, 2021, 11:49:18 AM
Link doesn’t do owt fir me James, sorry.

1st Corps, I like, but don’t mix well.

I thought of using late war Germans in smocks...Artizan.   Problem is, I’ve never seen pics of Lehr in smocks.....I will probably just use more plastic grenadiers.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - the problem with MG teams!
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 19, 2021, 01:14:26 PM
The link is to the Matchlock Miniatures Catalogue as far as I can see, but seems to be Poles, (which look nice), Volksturm (less so), a limited selection of British infantry and some German Cossack allies.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - the problem with MG teams!
Post by: Digits on March 19, 2021, 01:52:55 PM
Ah ok, cheers fellas.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Digits on March 20, 2021, 12:12:59 PM
British Platoon Command and the first section finished.

Minis are Crusader.   They are a little squat but actually not as bad as I thought from their catalog pics.

Basing the other two sections now.  I will be adding some support from Warlord.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/105C75C8-F826-491B-B361-53614B6320DD.jpeg)

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: gamer Mac on March 20, 2021, 04:13:04 PM
Looking good :-* :-* :-*
How do these scale with the warlord figures?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Digits on March 20, 2021, 04:50:45 PM
Against the British?  Don’t know yet...we will soon see though mate, I have a few support options coming from Warlord.   

I do know they stack up well against Artizan so shouldn’t be too bad.   The prone figures look a little small, but I don’t think it will be a big issue on the battlefield.  Harder to hit I say!  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Marine0846 on March 20, 2021, 11:59:35 PM
Well painted Brits.
I tend to forget that Crusader has a excellent range of 28mm  figures.
I was cleaning out some boxes and found a whole platoon of German WWII figures.
I don't remember when I purchased them. o_o
Oh, the things we find.
Must be due to my age. ;D
Now to paint them up.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: flatpack on March 21, 2021, 09:52:15 AM
Well done, David, these look great.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Axebreaker on March 21, 2021, 01:58:54 PM
Super looking British!

Christopher
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Truscott Trotter on March 21, 2021, 11:37:17 PM
Very nice brushwork on the Brits.
They should match OK size wise with the newish Warlord BEF as they are on the large n chunky side.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Digits on March 22, 2021, 08:52:05 AM
Do you mean BEF?   The new late war British come out this next month.

Hopefully I’m not too reliant on the warlord ones tbh.....I but the bullet and bought a few duplicate packs of riflemen from Crusader, enough to do the support squad too.

I have to say, these little chaps have grown on me.   Lots of character I think.

Many thanks for the kind comments all.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Infantry
Post by: Mindenbrush on March 22, 2021, 11:49:05 AM
Your British khaki looks excellent 👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Converting Prone Figures
Post by: Digits on March 23, 2021, 11:45:59 AM
Thank you sir!

Jamie is making himself some panzer grenadiers and we were bemoaning the lack of prone poses on the Warlord plastic sprue.  I offered to have a go at a conversion, the least I could do seeing as he has kindly painted my tanks!

Anyway, putting my money where my mouth is, I have a couple of bits left on a sprue so here is a quick guide to making a prone mini.  I have done a few of these using GW Imperial guard before now but the principle is the same.

I always start by selecting my mini, then breaking the legs off, and shaving a little off the belly area in order to lift the chest off the floor.  I then glue in place the legs at a better angle approximately where they need to be.   I will often bring in other appropriate legs from other minis, but in this case they are the originals.

Don’t worry about gaps at this point.  I have also glued the MG42 where I want it.

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Same with arms......there isn’t a natural arm reaching forward enough, so I broke the firming arm and glued it in position.  Likewise the loading arm, I simply cut the arm below the sleeve and turned it and flattened out the hand a little.

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Don’t be afraid of bringing the ground up to the mini.  For example I raised the ground under the loading arm to make it look like it’s propped from the ground.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9FF398D9-FE33-4378-86F2-1C8FB35AA058.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

And then using a little green stuff, fill any gaps and rebuild shoulders / hips etc.   The trick here if your gs skills are a little limited like mine, is to cover them all with plenty of clutter hanging from the waist etc afterwards!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/20235B46-DFCE-422C-8925-4CEDF6AA876F.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Et voila!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Converting Prone Figures
Post by: PrivateBuzz on March 23, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
Oh wow. That's awesome! Thank you.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Converting Prone Figures
Post by: Digits on March 23, 2021, 01:14:19 PM
No worries!  The shouldered gun was bothering me so adding a canister at the back gave it more reason to sit proud as it does....in hindsight strapping across his back would have looked less awkward but hey ho!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Converting Prone Figures
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 23, 2021, 01:29:59 PM
Cracking job on that conversion!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Converting Prone Figures
Post by: Digits on March 23, 2021, 06:01:08 PM
Cheers fella!

Pretty straight forward.  If you have a spare mini or two still on the sprue, give it a whirl!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 25, 2021, 01:19:19 PM
So in preparation for the start of gaming, I have painted the British platoon.  I need to do supports next.

I have realised how much more character metals have over plastic, and though I don’t see many Crusader ww2 kicking about, I really like these minis.  I will be putting a few Warlord minis into it though, hopefully they will fit in nicely.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/B5334C1F-1B89-437A-8AF4-8E447BA79374.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Just taken delivery of some more Last Valley hedges and a few tree lines, so a chance to pop them on the table before finding a home for them!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: gamer Mac on March 25, 2021, 03:27:13 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 25, 2021, 03:54:23 PM
They look very nice indeed. I've mixed the Warlord & Crusader minis for my Early War French with no real issues.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Tommy20 on March 25, 2021, 05:37:25 PM
Those look great!  I really like Crusader's British figures.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: has.been on March 25, 2021, 06:45:26 PM
Excellent work David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 25, 2021, 06:48:53 PM
Thanks chaps!

Already started on the Vickers team and another PIAT team.  My Warlord bits are taking an age to arrive.....never mind.  I have a few bits up my sleeve....
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 25, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
Thanks chaps!

Already started on the Vickers team and another PIAT team.  My Warlord bits are taking an age to arrive.....never mind.  I have a few bits up my sleeve....

Err yes.. don't we all, I spent this evening adding a grout and paint mix to some support bases, a platoon of Italians and a platoon of US GI. Lots of painting to do.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Ash on March 26, 2021, 11:41:33 AM
That's a fantastic collection of troops and scenery you put together. How do you store it all?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 26, 2021, 12:24:44 PM
That’s a sore point mate!  Many an argument with the missus!    LOTS of RUB’s in the garage and the underside of one of the guest beds for the mats....

Cheers
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
Up early this am so productive few hours!  They paint a damn sight quicker than Jerry!

Some British support including a couple of junior nco’s.  Postman just popped the missing support section minis through my door too, so on with those I suppose!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/AE48D349-A0BA-4318-AB1D-F3A2770AF2BE.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Mindenbrush on March 27, 2021, 01:11:07 PM
Very nicely done and the Brits do paint up quickly 👍
You have achieved a very nice khaki, did you follow a “recipe”?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2021, 02:16:58 PM
No real recipe....I simply use Vallejo English Uniform, Agrax Earthshade, highlight with the Vallejo again.....then a fine dry brush of Zandri dust.

Cheers

In other news, Jamie bought a few metres of Teddy Bear Fur.  He sprayed a bit brown and gave it me.  I just dry brushed it with a few greens and added a little meadow flowers.  I was going to cut up into two bits but I like this large field.  About 30 inches squared.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: gamer Mac on March 27, 2021, 07:50:26 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Do you know where the fur came from?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
I will find out for you mate.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: has.been on March 27, 2021, 08:11:05 PM
Quote
Do you know where the fur came from?

I ain't saying, but three characters, Yogi, Paddington & Pooh,
all want to have a word with Jamie. lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2021, 08:14:12 PM
I ain't saying, but three characters, Yogi, Paddington & Pooh,
all want to have a word with Jamie. lol lol lol

Yup, all have bare behinds!  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: MaleGriffin on March 28, 2021, 12:53:41 AM
Brilliant! Truly inspiring! Your attention to detail is impressive!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Mindenbrush on March 28, 2021, 12:30:28 PM
No real recipe....I simply use Vallejo English Uniform, Agrax Earthshade, highlight with the Vallejo again.....then a fine dry brush of Zandri dust.

Thanks for the info 👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 29, 2021, 02:01:39 PM
Ready for their first action this coming weekend.

Just finished painting the support infantry section.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 29, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
Great stuff. I always get lazy and just do a standard platoon, then kick myself when I realise a section would be a great support option...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: Digits on March 29, 2021, 03:07:36 PM
We were discussing that the other day....especially if you are a panzer grenadier section.....two lmg’s......lots to love!

Even for the Tommies....10 fire power for the tripod Vickers mmg, the section has 12 plus the junior leader and whatever he can affect or bring to bare...and arguably better odds at surviving longer.  And both options are on the same section of the support list.

I feel you have to give yourself options......

Still waiting on Warlord though.   I still have to paint up flame thrower team, 6 pounder AT gun, engineers, medic and observer team though they won’t be here for Saturday!  ;)

After that, I need a few support vehicles.  I have already bought / ordered a Humber Reconnaissance car, a pair of universal carriers and a priest.    Plus I have my tanks!

 

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British Platoon
Post by: gamer Mac on March 29, 2021, 10:36:03 PM
I am sure you will have them knocked out in no time
Looking forward to seeing them in action
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: Digits on March 31, 2021, 09:56:34 AM
Me too!

In fact, I was sorting out some trees to take to Jamie’s for the game, and I shocked myself realising I must have about as much greenery as some small clubs! All courtesy of Last Valley over the years.

Bocage

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Tree Lines & Copses

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Trees

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Hedgerows

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Fields (not including ones I’ve converted for other projects)

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No wonder the missus gets irate !  Think I’d better stop there.......

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: Hu Rhu on March 31, 2021, 10:27:02 AM
I shocked myself realising I must have about as much greenery as some small clubs

It's amazing how it builds up over the years. Loving this thread by the way.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 31, 2021, 10:32:57 AM
Well that explains why at every show he's always stood at an empty stand by lunchtime. lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 31, 2021, 12:20:18 PM
Well that explains why at every show he's always stood at an empty stand by lunchtime. lol

Yeah, though one time I worked out how much it would cost me to get everything I needed from him, and the numbers made me blanch. Looks like I will be making my own.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: Digits on March 31, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Right now....he’s offering free postage and 20% off everything on his price list!  ( wish I was on commission! Lol)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: has.been on March 31, 2021, 04:39:39 PM
Quote
Yeah, though one time I worked out how much it would cost me to get everything I needed from him, and the numbers made me blanch. Looks like I will be making my own.

I used to think that, but years went by & I still hadn't made any of it.
Then I bought a few bits at a show. Now (?) at a show (What shows?)
I will pick up another bit or two. As Digits has demonstrated it does
build up.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: Digits on March 31, 2021, 07:31:40 PM
Yup.

I had ordered some rubicon crews for the tank destroyers.  Problem with Rubicon, they insist on putting anatomically correct (?) heads which look minuscule!

Never fear, four heads from the British Airborne sprue, and they look ok to me!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: gamer Mac on April 01, 2021, 05:07:08 PM
Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I have two of those in 20mm Need to source some crew
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: Digits on April 01, 2021, 05:48:23 PM
Not been funny bud, the Rubicon heads are easily 20mm!  If you have Brit bodies, I can let you have heads.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on April 02, 2021, 11:02:15 AM
They are stunning looking those Achilles.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foliage!
Post by: MaleGriffin on April 03, 2021, 04:00:58 PM
I love this thread! Brilliant!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Digits on April 07, 2021, 08:08:03 AM
Hopefully I can keep it interesting then mate, cheers.

So, having gotten our first game in, we will be starting the Bloody Bucket campaign in earnest in a week or so’s time.  I realise that I still have a few things to get done.

We pretty much have the forces side tied down now and lots of clutter and obstacles, but I am sitting on a number of unpainted resin buildings.   My least favourite thing to paint, but needs must or every game will start to look the same!

You may recall when I painted the farm, that I had accidentally bought two of the “lean to” covered pens.   Well I am mid way through converting one (not hugely, but adding more detailing) to create a pigsty....hopefully pics soon.

I will also have a go at these three buildings, so at the very least, I can make a second farmstead.    I have been looking at the Hornby  1/72 Corrugated iron Dutch Barn trying to determine whether it may still scale for this......if anyone has one, I’d be interested to know?  Cheers

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 07, 2021, 02:19:34 PM
It's more a question of what you used for corrigated Iron on your other builds. If you used HO stuff then it's not an issue.
As it'll just look like a single story barn than the near two stories in HO.
That type of openside barn is about an hour scratch build and less than a third of the price.( plus you'll be able to hide armour in it.)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Digits on April 07, 2021, 02:49:20 PM
Yup...I had considered scratching it......but last time I did with corrugated ABS.....a year later it fell apart!   Probably me using wrong glue but hey ho.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Digits on April 07, 2021, 05:25:25 PM
Ok, one painted and slightly modified pigsty.  I replaced the small wooden “walls” with all round fencing, and added a corrugated “gate”. Thanks to Vodkafan, I had wheels to throw on the roof to keep the tin down.  We used to use tyres to keep tarps down like this on the farm when I was a kid.

Piggy wig straw is simply an old paint brush cut up and glued.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 07, 2021, 05:47:13 PM
Works a treat  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: gamer Mac on April 07, 2021, 05:49:16 PM
Lovely detail :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Hu Rhu on April 07, 2021, 07:14:23 PM
Great little terrain piece.  :-* :-*

And the winner of the game gets roast pork.  :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Digits on April 07, 2021, 09:19:17 PM
We don’t usually wait that long!  Bacon butties are a staple part of the game!

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: vodkafan on April 07, 2021, 10:01:28 PM
That is one luxury pigsty!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Scrubber on April 07, 2021, 10:13:15 PM
Needs a piggy trough inside for food.
Nice work.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Digits on April 07, 2021, 10:46:58 PM
I have a water trough....just don’t know where I put it!   Will add it when I do.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Tommy20 on April 08, 2021, 04:39:13 AM
Looks great!  Another item for the to-do list...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: has.been on April 08, 2021, 05:59:41 AM
More nice stuff David. When we get back to face to face games,
I will be very busy taking pictures of all the nice terrain. Oh and
all the different Pz IIs Jamie has painted for you.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Pigsty.....and other buildings
Post by: Westbury on April 10, 2021, 10:52:18 AM
Excellent pig sty mate!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Digits on April 10, 2021, 11:01:06 AM
Thanks guys!

To go with the pigsty, I painted a few more of the TBM buildings.  The main house is actually sold as a cafe, but I quite like it here as another rural dwelling.  The small lean to is a useful add on building and there is the small collapsed building.

Good to have alternate farm stead to the other set for variety.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/3D15CB58-9A60-441A-B9CF-0DE9CD5F345A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/CDBA1CE7-E096-4C25-9022-0EFD7115DA69.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9C57BE85-9824-4856-8ED1-4347F1EEF2C0.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Poiter50 on April 10, 2021, 02:22:11 PM
TBM? Too far back in the posts to search at this time of a boozy evening.

Thanks guys!

To go with the pigsty, I painted a few more of the TBM buildings.  The main house is actually sold as a cafe, but I quite like it here as another rural dwelling.  The small lean to is a useful add on building and there is the small collapsed building.

Good to have alternate farm stead to the other set for variety.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/3D15CB58-9A60-441A-B9CF-0DE9CD5F345A.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/CDBA1CE7-E096-4C25-9022-0EFD7115DA69.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/9C57BE85-9824-4856-8ED1-4347F1EEF2C0.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Digits on April 10, 2021, 02:23:21 PM
Total Battle Miniatures
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Poiter50 on April 10, 2021, 02:24:18 PM
Ta.

Total Battle Miniatures
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Hu Rhu on April 10, 2021, 04:59:56 PM
Great paining on that farmstead.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: flatpack on April 11, 2021, 07:14:11 AM
Those have come out very nice again David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: vodkafan on April 11, 2021, 09:04:55 AM
I really like that house with the multi faceted roof.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Digits on April 11, 2021, 09:55:25 AM
Cheers guys, appreciate it.

I still have three or four of their buildings to do, including the church.  There is another larger wrecked house of theirs I have not bought as yet, but may well do to complete the set.   I’m kinda hoping they come back and do more in this range.

I will periodically paint another building, but for now, I’ve realised I hate staring at unpainted minis sat on my painting area...so I will have a go at a section of Fallschirmjager next me thinks!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: gamer Mac on April 11, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
Instead of staring at unpainted minis you should store them in boxes so you can't see them :D
and you also get the added benifit that when you are having a clear out you find loads of stuff you have forgoten about :D
Just found my Dad's army platoon :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: Digits on April 11, 2021, 05:47:25 PM
Why did he leave it at your house?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: gamer Mac on April 11, 2021, 09:59:29 PM
 lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more painted buildings
Post by: has.been on April 12, 2021, 06:40:27 AM
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Why did he leave it at your house?

'Stupid boy.  Take his name Wilson'  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 12, 2021, 09:57:48 AM
 ;)

First game of the Bloody Bucket campaign this coming weekend!  :)

Pretty much everything painted I should need for that.


Started painting a section and command for my Fallschirmjager yesterday.   Then got distracted putting together the 10.5 recoilless.   Trying to pack five minis around it always fun!

Question.   How effective would it be compared with a standard 10.5 gun? 

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on April 12, 2021, 10:33:29 AM
Don't know about effectiveness but I'm looking forward to a link to an AAR with lots of eye candy pics :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: vodkafan on April 12, 2021, 02:15:02 PM
Think the shell would have been just as effective but the range would be much less. Also an artillery piece can do proper indirect fire whereas a recoiless rifle becomes a direct fire weapon.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 12, 2021, 03:28:43 PM
Sounds about right.  Cheers James
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Elbows on April 12, 2021, 04:41:53 PM
I was just reading up on the FJ recoiless rifles, and they were clever if not ideal.  Generally they fired a matching 10.5 shell, but obviously with little to no barrel.  Apparently the weapons themselves were capable of wearing out pretty quickly, but it was a lot of firepower and relatively light.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 12, 2021, 04:50:14 PM
So. basically, in a firefight the size of CoC...and the limited ranges of the game...basically direct fire version of the 105mm standard artillery piece then.   Perfect!  Cheers



Just need to paint them.....!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Elbows on April 12, 2021, 05:00:22 PM
Yeah I have some of the 7.5 ones in 15mm and I think I may run them as the short barreled 7.5 infantry gun.  Not sure. :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on April 12, 2021, 07:19:12 PM
I'm not sure they shouldn't be capable of some indirect fire as well.

As I understood it, the limiting factor was the venting to the rear of the weapon, and so if it could be elevated a little, without the rear blast causing issues, then presumably if was theoretically possible?  Although on a table the size of a typical CoC battlefield, I am not sure many weapons other than mortars should have indirect fire capability.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on April 12, 2021, 09:21:24 PM
Do you need the five guys on the single base?
Do you need single bases to allow for casulties
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 12, 2021, 09:29:52 PM
No, you can do three say and a few singles if you like.  I like the interactive look of a full team...though I often leave the junior officer off and represent with a sing,e figure.

It would certainly save you a few quid doing loose figures, but personal choice.

I like the use of mini dice to show casualties.  At Jamie’s suggestion, like him, I ordered a few mini dice holders from Sabotag3d
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 13, 2021, 12:40:21 PM
Ha!  Spot the obvious mistake!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on April 13, 2021, 12:47:08 PM
'MG42 MMG Team'?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 13, 2021, 12:49:15 PM
Indeed!  Wishful thinking  lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on April 13, 2021, 01:58:59 PM
Apart from the weight the Vickers was still a very good MMG. No barrel changes needed, very sturdy, and reliable. Interested to see the Bundeswehr is finally planning to retire the MG42, or G3 if you prefer. Though the replacement is apparently problematic. 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on April 13, 2021, 05:06:57 PM
SPOT THE MISTAKE?
It's the wrong box for Fallschirmjager :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 13, 2021, 05:26:17 PM
 ::) There is that!  ::)

Another unit I’m slowly collecting though it won’t see paint until Jamie has done his out of courtesy!   I also have late war Germans for Normandy on the go.  I aim to eventually have troops to represent all the main types fighting in post D Day Western Europe (except US airborne).

Things to concentrate on first however!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 15, 2021, 11:53:25 AM
I asked Andrew of Last. Alley to make me a two piece ploughed field with a copse, that could be made into one larger field or two smaller ones.  Quite chuffed with this.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/84FB38EC-06BA-4DAC-8F07-BABE809CE60C.jpeg?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/E65AE5AA-8EA1-4D8F-9D79-56484015FFD8.jpeg?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on April 15, 2021, 03:00:42 PM
Looking good will store that idea for future use
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 17, 2021, 11:14:14 AM
I do like those fields .Theyre not as sterile as a chunck of cord or coconut mat. They'll definitely add some depth to your farmland.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Elbows on April 17, 2021, 03:32:34 PM
Digits - those pics are also showing up super tiny for me.  Like in one of your other threads - might just be my computer/browser.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 17, 2021, 05:52:21 PM
No, it’s bloody photobucket AGAIN!  They deceduded to change the way you pic up the link to embed....it’s is just more fully to get right each time and I forgot!   I will sort out...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 17, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
Before today’s game, Jamie brought me my painted Humber Mk2

Super!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/D159C69B-4770-4531-88CB-7E99638D892E.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Elbows on April 17, 2021, 07:48:18 PM
So I assume it's dead within the first shot of the game?  Rule of newly painted stuff and all...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Scrubber on April 17, 2021, 08:38:12 PM
Road hog: Get out of the middle of the road.

Very nice paint job.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 17, 2021, 08:57:59 PM
So I assume it's dead within the first shot of the game?  Rule of newly painted stuff and all...

Luckily no Brits playing today!  ;)

Brian.....drives like the missus!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Shahbahraz on April 17, 2021, 10:30:03 PM
Chain of Command, armoured cars are brilliant, especially early war where infantry don't have piats, bazookas and panzerfausts. Nice looking piece of kit.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on April 17, 2021, 10:43:00 PM
Looks good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Any chance of a bigger pic of your fields?
What are they made of?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 17, 2021, 10:49:52 PM
Bigger pics....you’d have to ask Last Valley but mdf and tretrion on the base I suspect.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/84FB38EC-06BA-4DAC-8F07-BABE809CE60C.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/E65AE5AA-8EA1-4D8F-9D79-56484015FFD8.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: vodkafan on April 18, 2021, 08:55:14 AM
Think I might make myself some of those fields. Very useful.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 18, 2021, 09:04:38 AM
Yup.  I have a smaller one but there is a little more realism making a larger one.  Plus, as I said, giving him a sketch of what I wanted allowed me to get a copse into it and a few more trees about the hedge.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on April 18, 2021, 11:25:12 AM
Yep they look good
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 18, 2021, 04:56:30 PM
I forgot to show the pond...to which I’ve just added a pair of ruddy ducks!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/58296824-237D-4966-92D1-95A1465D8948.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Unlucky General on April 18, 2021, 06:46:12 PM
oooh ... nice pond. I now believe I need one of those.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: vodkafan on April 18, 2021, 09:19:49 PM
If you throw a double 1 does one of your FJ squads drop in the duckpond?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: gamer Mac on April 18, 2021, 09:31:31 PM
Never heard of ruddy ducks? :D
Cracking pond :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 18, 2021, 09:54:21 PM
Ruddy duck

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: vodkafan on April 19, 2021, 08:26:24 AM
That's a Robin!  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: has.been on April 19, 2021, 09:10:20 AM
Quote
That's a Robin!  lol

James, if you think that is what a Robin look like,
it does explain why you gave me your Sheriff of
Nottingham figures. 8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Fallschirmjager
Post by: Digits on April 19, 2021, 09:37:15 AM
Yup....none of my Christmas cards ever had one of these handsome fellas on it James!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: Digits on May 05, 2021, 11:46:07 AM
Not been painting much recently...but a few days away will give me a good opportunity to do some and finish off a few bits I hope.

I have been cleaning up, basing and priming a few bits in readiness.

British support including crew for my Priest, a 6pdr AT gun (gave me a lot of gyp building it!), engineers, observers, medic etc)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/49F57037-FBC0-4147-9A1C-B33534A382F1.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

I will also take two sections of the Fallschirmjager as I’m sick of the sight of them on my paint tray!

Currently sat with Jamie, I have a few vehicles, including the priest, a pair of universal carriers and a Sherman.  That should about finish the Tommies, though I may add a pair of half tracks at some point in the future.

Things to come.....

I still have a few buildings to paint, and a couple of other building ideas to buy / make.

The biggest scenic addition for the next six months will be a river system.

I’m determined to paint the German paras first, but I’m pretty much half way collecting my panzer grenadiers.

I am also collecting british paras and eventually I want some SS troops.   So.....lots to do yet!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: Digits on May 14, 2021, 04:56:25 PM
Well weather ain’t so great and trying to sit outside painting is giving me frost bite! Lol

None the less, managing to get a few bits done.

Here are the crew for the priest, a driver, medic and officer. 

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: gamer Mac on May 14, 2021, 07:11:27 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 14, 2021, 08:10:38 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-*

+1  Very tidy.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: has.been on May 14, 2021, 08:19:23 PM
Well at least it seems to have stopped raining for you  ::)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: vodkafan on May 15, 2021, 12:00:26 AM
Very nice Digits, your khaki looks top-hole  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: Digits on May 15, 2021, 08:01:41 PM
Cheers.  Still keeps raining but can get a few bits done between showers!

A little more.

Observation / radio team, and combat engineers including flamethrower.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/31F0236E-FBF7-4F92-B8D9-554C2E730F45.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: vodkafan on May 15, 2021, 10:56:11 PM
Like these a lot!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: Digits on May 19, 2021, 10:29:37 AM
Weather was lovely yesterday and had great walk up Ingleton Falls and had a meal in a restaurant!  Woohoo!

Anyway, I have painted the gun crew....but I need to get home to finish the gun itself.

If I get some time...I may try and do a few German paras!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: has.been on May 19, 2021, 04:49:16 PM
It is amazing how a little bit of sun (we never get too much in Blighty)
improves morale. Nice work David, I mean someone of your age climbing
up a hill. lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Finishing off British Infantry
Post by: Digits on May 20, 2021, 09:10:08 AM
Funny (not) that you should mention that.  I need a knee op.....but putting it off as far as I can.....and my knees are buggered after that effort.   It’s not the going up, but the coming down that does it!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Digits on May 26, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
British gun is done.  I was going to put some camo netting on it but decided not to.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/663CB94E-1151-429A-AB21-48FB600E4F08.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: gamer Mac on May 26, 2021, 10:16:33 PM
Very nice work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Shahbahraz on May 26, 2021, 10:25:54 PM
Is that the Warlord Games one? Come out well.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Digits on May 26, 2021, 11:10:45 PM
It is...but three crew are Crusader.

Cheers
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Shahbahraz on May 26, 2021, 11:46:36 PM
It is...but three crew are Crusader.

Cheers


I wondered, I am going to have to find a crew for my 17lb gun at some point, but very few companies will do a crew without an artillery piece. And even scarcer are crews of sufficient size. 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Shahbahraz on May 27, 2021, 12:04:55 AM
But by coincidence, Crusader have a special on late war British gun crew, three figures for £1.20 !!!! 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 27, 2021, 10:05:06 AM
Very nice work on that 6 pdr.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: has.been on May 27, 2021, 07:48:43 PM
Nice work. Should be able to take out a Pz 2.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 28, 2021, 08:16:24 AM
Nice work. Should be able to take out a Pz 2.

I thought that the 6 Pdr was quite an effective A-tk gun. Wasn't one of the first Tigers to be taken out, was by a 6 Pdr in Tunisia or was that simply a myth?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Plynkes on May 28, 2021, 08:29:42 AM
The six pounder was a good AT gun. The Rifle Brigade held off multiple attacks at El Alamein with thirteen of them, facing long-barrelled Mark IIIs and IVs among other things, and taking out something like 30 to 40 of them (estimates vary).

Panzer 2 my eye.  :)



Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: has.been on May 28, 2021, 08:52:01 AM
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Panzer 2 my eye.  :)

Digits has his armour painted by Private Buzz, who does excellent
work by the way. Digits seems to (maybe) misled him as to how
much work was involved, claiming (possibly) that it was only a
few Pz 2s. Have a look at Digits' threads about WW2 & you will see
how much work Private Buzz has done.

Yes indeed the 6pdr can do serious damage, but not as much as...
an RPG (Another group joke). :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Plynkes on May 28, 2021, 09:36:54 AM
My apologies. I misinterpreted your post to mean you were having a little dig at the usefulness of the 6 pdr. We couldn't have that, could we?  :)

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Digits on May 28, 2021, 10:10:30 AM
One day I may surprise him and ask him to paint a REAL pzr II  :D

RPG!   Yes, the shot legends are made of!   Alas, I may never repeat it again.....

But I’ve found a new toy...and a very effective one it has proven so far.....panzerschreck!   

I will be painting one up this weekend as I have started work on my first batch of Fallschirmjagers.   
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: has.been on May 28, 2021, 10:17:58 AM
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My apologies. I misinterpreted your post to mean you were having a little dig at the usefulness of the 6 pdr. We couldn't have that, could we?  :)

No need to apologise. As they might say across the pond, 'No flag no foul'
I wasn't annoyed/insulted, whatever. The fault was mine for not making my comment clearer.

Quote
.panzerscherck!
Now this scares me. :o :o :o
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Etranger on May 28, 2021, 10:45:18 AM
I thought that the 6 Pdr was quite an effective A-tk gun. Wasn't one of the first Tigers to be taken out, was by a 6 Pdr in Tunisia or was that simply a myth?

The 6 pounder was indeed effective against the Tiger. Churchill crews were quite happy to use them for their AT effect, mixing them up with 75mm variants. Later on the 6 pounder got a Discarding Sabot ('DS') round which was deadly against pretty much anything that the Germans had. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance_QF_6-pounder
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: CapnJim on May 28, 2021, 01:21:42 PM
Lovely figs and gun, regardless of what it can take out...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - British AT gun
Post by: Digits on May 28, 2021, 01:29:44 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Assembling the bad boys
Post by: Digits on June 02, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Well, I’m not getting any painting done, despite staring at these German paras for an awful long time!  Real life gets in the way, with work being nice and busy.

However, I have still been adding to the lead pile!  lol

I want to do a platoon of Waffen SS as I’ve mentioned before now.  I’m not picking a particular division, none hold any particular appeal, but nor am I going to airbrush history, it happened.

For this unit, I decided to start with mixing a box of the SS Sturmbataillon Charlemagne, with their French arm patches removed, and the pack “Raus” of disembarking panzer grenadiers.  I also mix in a couple of plastics I had left on sprues.

I opted for these because I felt the minis offer a nice dynamic “assaulting” look, a great “rag tag” appearance and gave me an answer to my continuing quest to find sufficient unique minis, particularly among the machine gun teams!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/7F7AD7D4-F774-4D50-A1D3-78B24EF85596.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

The Raus minis are a little challenging in that for the poses to make sense, you need to add objects to the base, done here with simple bits of slate.

So I have the first two sections.  I will buy the Warlord 10 man metal SS section and supports for the rest in time.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/A5E2E8EB-8128-418B-9863-45B32041C8BF.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Assembling the bad boys
Post by: gamer Mac on June 02, 2021, 11:00:17 AM
Good start :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - SS Panzer Grenadiers
Post by: Digits on June 13, 2021, 10:29:03 AM
Added a box of Waffen SS plus a few support options including Sniper, Flame Thrower and observer/ radio team plus my new favourite toy, panzerschreck!

As we will be playing more Normandy and I have so far failed to paint the Fallschirmjager, I will need to get a German force painted and under my belt!

As these will have a similar rag tag look as my Winter fellas, with some various camo combos etc, it should keep them interesting.  Going to try out a couple of new camo schemes to kick start them…..

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/A0F9718C-808F-4090-BB5A-E5FE6208EB71.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - SS Panzer Grenadiers
Post by: Romark on June 13, 2021, 10:34:50 AM
Looking forward to seeing these  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - SS Panzer Grenadiers
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 13, 2021, 10:51:55 AM
Seconded, will look forward to seeing how these turn out. And all reusable for 1945, assuming you don't go for too much of a summer look.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - SS Panzer Grenadiers
Post by: Digits on June 18, 2021, 09:42:43 AM
Working on my test scheme for M1942 Blurred Edge at. The moment….

However, I have a game tomorrow.   Yesterday a small order arrived from Total Battle Minis and as the table calls for a large farm setup, I sat last night for a couple of hours and quickly (not sure what came over me!) painted this barn which I’d ordered.  Actually from their blackpowder range, but a little ramshackle barn fits in pretty much anywhere so made sense to buy it.  Me thinks Captain Blood did a slightly better job of the paintwork when he bought one for his Civil War table, but I’m happy enough with it.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: gamer Mac on June 18, 2021, 11:09:09 AM
Cracking job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I may need to copy that in 20 mm though I need some farm buildings
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: Digits on June 18, 2021, 11:54:58 AM
I agree….lots of rural buildings are essential.

Here is the set up for tomorrow’s game, Crossroads on Le Grand Chemin, Etienville.

This is the opening action of the 14th June 1944  as the US 90th infantry, 82nd Airborne and 325th infantry glider regiments push east towards St Sauveur le Vicomte as part of the sealing off of the peninsula.   

Opposing them were elements of the 265 Infanterie-Division. Grenadiers.

Jamie send me aerial photographs of the area and this is my interpretation….

As you look at the table, the US are approaching the farm hamlet from the fields…..should be fun to be a defender for this one!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 18, 2021, 12:10:10 PM
That barn  is the business and I love the addition of the climbing rose.  :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 18, 2021, 12:17:18 PM
Nice looking setup. As the attacker I would be bringing HE support...  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: gamer Mac on June 18, 2021, 01:00:36 PM
That  is a very nice setup :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: has.been on June 18, 2021, 02:27:32 PM
Plus 1 to the nice comments.
Does this mean you two have finished with Bloody Bucket?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - New Old Barn!
Post by: Digits on June 18, 2021, 02:35:41 PM
No.  Back to that soon enough.  Taking a break whilst gathering mojo to paint minis!

Cheers guys, glad you like it.   Have a few more buildings to do yet....


Not that they will be available for tomorrow’s battle…but a quick pic of Panthers on manoeuvres…

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: Digits on June 20, 2021, 11:58:19 PM
So, had a great game on Saturday.

Long and short of it, the mission was to capture the jump off point marked with a blue cross near the crossroads. 

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Not drawing this one out too much but the long and short….

The elite US glider infantry, moving swiftly toward the hamlet were able to place their jump off markers at the forward hedge rows, marked in the lozenge area.  The right hand section, quickly moving out to cover the ground towards building 2.

German jump off markers can be seen clustered around the the junction and just behind building 2.  A further jump off was established near building 1.  Maybe a little too early, I deployed a section into building 1 and one into building 2.  Angles of fire were tricky, with no building square on to the eastern edge (at the bottom of the table).   The US deployed their forces quickly, including a support 50 cal (5) and I immediately started to feel the heat.   I had intended to hold back my third section to defend in entrenchment sat the crossroads, but with the only bit of open ground now being crossed, I decided I should deploy it also into building 2.

Surely with 4 mg42’s firing at close range, I would quickly chop up the advancing Americans…….


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And they brought up a Sherman which chose to sit at the back and start laying HE into the building, trying to destabilise it…..too far away from my jump off positions for me to ambush it with my panzerschrek unfortunately…..

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The advancing US section, slowed and went tactical whilst the supporting section laid on covering fire from its rifle section, keeping the panzer grenadiers on the ground floor busy, whilst simultaneously hitting the top floor section with combined fire from the section 30cal and the supporting 50cal.  The Americans also deployed a 60mm mortar, and bazooka which along with the tank, added their HE into the mix.

So with one section at reduced effectiveness (subjected to covering fire) and the top floor section being battered, I was still determined to try and break the advancing section.  However, having never faced elite troops before, I soon realised how damned difficult they were to hit!   I was loosing men at a far faster rate!

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It had been predetermined there was a battery of 88’s on a hill across the valley to the south that overlooked the hamlet, and that a chain of command dice would be able to activate them to take a shot.  The first opportunity I got, the 88’s took a shot at the stationery and exposed Sherman.   A solid hit slammed into the side of the tank, and knocked out the tank.

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The advancing US section, decided to stop hugging the ground, and started to add their firepower onto the building.    The junior leader attached to the top section was killed and the senior leader moved upstairs to take personal command of the remains of the section.  The US sensed a chance to eliminate or break the top section, and let up on their covering fire which had kept the lower section almost impotent.  They star.ted hitting the top floor with everything they had, and the the senior leader was wounded and unable to hold sway over his men.  However, the combined firepower from all those machine guns finally was able to chop up the advancing section and it broke, running back through the gap in the hedge…

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Heartened by this, I decided to push the section still sitting in building 1 out to cover the back of the farm where the action was.


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Before they could get t.ok far however, the amount of American fire pouring into the top floor broke the defending section which ran down out the back, dismaying their fellow section and leaving them alone to face the main force of infantry now moving towards them….

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I now had a decision to make.  If I stayed put and tried to hold back the yanks, the ground floor section would suffer the same fate.  They were already down three men and were dazed.   I needed to give ground, and give them a chance to recover their composure so they left the back of the building and entered the stable block the other side of the pigsty.  The third section, along with the panzerschreck team now took positions to defend the crossroads…..whilst the American Platton leader ran his second section across to take the farmhouse.  They did this despite Sniper fire from the roof.  I had been trying to deploy him for a long time.  The Americans had a pre game barrage in play and despite a lot of test rolls, I had been unable to deploy until now.

Fearing he would score another hit on the support elements and further drop his morale, the American commander ordered his men to go up and clear him out.  The section moved up to the first, sending a scouting pair into the loft to flush him out.  Meanwhile the commander rushed back to take charge of his support assets to get them moving.

The 50 cal had continued to chase fire after the broken section but had failed to finish them.

I used my final command dice and chose to end the turn….risky because we both had routing sections.  In doing so, we both came perilously close to having no stomach for the fight.

I felt a minor reprieve as the Americans were concentrating on clearing out the sniper and not already dropping fire onto the crossroads.   

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I detached a team from the third section and tried to flank the stable block in order to try and get at the bazooka team.  If I could break them…?

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But I was worried this wouldn’t do it.   The Americans were now bringing forward the hated 50cal and I knew once that was in position, I would suffer the loss.

I had one last desperate play left, it could go horribly wrong, but in desperation I moved the section back out from the stables, and thrust them into to ground floor of the farmhouse!

Unable to activate his section to counter then, in my next phase, I ordered them to storm the first floor.   They duly chucked their potato mashers up the stairwell, stunning a couple obviously, then valiantly attacked……


Once we’d worked out just how many dice we would be throwing, the combination of elite defenders, both being aggressive troops, all that automatic fire etc….we both ended up throwing 21 dice each…….and we both literally wiped each other out! Lol

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Checking on the bad things happen table, and by the skin of my teeth, ending up on one point of morale as the Americans lost their last, I was able to snatch a victory!

Wow!  That was the closest game yet.   It literally came down to a very aggressive bout of close combat which could have gone either way (as well as the rolls on the morale table), and the fact all participants in the melee fell made it more incredible!

Dammed good game, great scenario, great opposition!   I enjoyed that.  Cheers Jamie.











Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: has.been on June 21, 2021, 09:08:23 AM
Lovely set up & interesting fight so far.
Looking forward to the next thrilling instalment.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 09:10:34 AM
Cheers…edited it to a conclusion, really enjoyed that one!

Forgot to mention, at one point, I was able to mobilise the 88 a second time.

Could have worked, I knew any hit against an infantry unit would soon be rallied, so opted to snipe it at the medic that was trying to make his way to the broken and injured second senior leader that had fled when the American section broke.

Shook him up a bit, but failed to kill him! Lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: has.been on June 21, 2021, 09:32:33 AM
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Could have worked, I knew any hit against an infantry unit would soon be rallied, so opted to snipe it at the medic that was trying to make his way to the broken and injured second senior leader that had fled when the American section broke.

David only you (OK & a lot of other wargammers) would go
sniping with a battery of 88s  :D :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: gamer Mac on June 21, 2021, 10:19:36 AM
Great looking game :-* :-* :-*
The sniping with an 88 against an unarmed medic is a bit much though lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: modelwarrior on June 21, 2021, 10:29:25 AM
Nice write up,models and pictures. Thanks.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 10:30:39 AM
You say “a bit much” but if he’d been able to reach the broken senior leader, that may have cost me the game.   Routing the section helped me to whittle down their morale….without that I would have definitely not pulled this out of the fire, so it was warranted I believe!

Anyway, I am now going to buy myself an 88 for my current workbench SS….the first of which test minis I will pop up tonight if I get a chance.

Cheers guys, appreciate the comments.

Modelsarrior…the US minis are all Jamie’s and unfortunately, I have yet to paint summer Germans so they are winter fellas….luckily there aren’t many close ups! Lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on June 21, 2021, 12:13:07 PM
Fantastic write up, it was like reliving it all again. A very tense and fun battle.

The 88 must have loaded up solid shot. As the shell whistled past the medic, the draft must have shocked him somewhat.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: has.been on June 21, 2021, 12:17:28 PM
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You say “a bit much” but if he’d been able to reach the broken senior leader, that may have cost me the game.   Routing the section helped me to whittle down their morale….without that I would have definitely not pulled this out of the fire, so it was warranted I believe!

'I vos only obeying orders' (NB Didn't work at Nuremburg) and ...
I really must explain the concept of 'War crimes' to you at some time.  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 12:22:43 PM
The bigger draft came from his trousers I’d say!

As for war crimes…..my grandfather was involved with those trials and in bringing prominent nazis to book……unfortunately he died when I was very young.  I doubt though he’d find much wrong with my action…….besides, where is the proof?   There are no written orders…..
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on June 21, 2021, 12:24:57 PM
There may be no written orders but you wrote it in your war diary above!

How much more of an admission of guilt do you need?  ;D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 325th attack the hamlet!
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 12:31:51 PM
Ah yes......time to change my name and move to Argentina me thinks!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 02:14:09 PM
Talking of war crimes, I have tried out my test scheme for my Summer SS.

As usual, I have tried to keep it muted…..and the camo scale down which naturally darkens them.   This is my attempt at the two main camos that I will be using.  All three have been painted the same in this instance but future chaps will get a little variation…..mixing in an autumn pattern pea dot etc…


So the smocks and helmet covers are my simple (as in, if I have to paint more than a couple of dozen, I won’t end up a nervous wreck!) take on “blurred edge” M1942 and a pea dot M44 on the trousers.  I’m happy enough with them anyway.

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Just a matter of doing another 50 troops now!  :'(
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 21, 2021, 02:21:02 PM
It would be nice to see some larger shots, to be honest, it's just blurred in these pictures.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
That’s the effect of the camo! Lol

Honestly, any bigger and the painting is really bad!  :?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 21, 2021, 02:27:43 PM
That’s the effect of the camo! Lol

Honestly, any bigger and the painting is really bad!  :?

Unfortunately, at this distance, it's so blurred you can't even get an overall impression other than a muted blue grey colour. We've seen your painting, it's quite good enough to withstand a close up.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 02:48:58 PM
Hmmm….I don’t like posting close ups but is this any better?

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Marine0846 on June 21, 2021, 02:59:19 PM
Great closeups.
Excellent painting.
You are to hard on yourself.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Romark on June 21, 2021, 03:01:18 PM
Great closeups.
Excellent painting.
You are to hard on yourself.
Seconded!👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 03:35:46 PM
Cheers fellas!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: gamer Mac on June 21, 2021, 03:40:46 PM
Thirded if that is a thing ;D
Looking good to me :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: modelwarrior on June 21, 2021, 04:02:52 PM
And a fourth lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Shahbahraz on June 21, 2021, 04:31:47 PM
Agree with all the above, they do look good. I was hoping for closeups so we could get an idea of colour selection, pattern and technique, as it always helps to learn from others.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: flatpack on June 21, 2021, 04:33:16 PM
Nice set up, and AAR.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: Digits on June 21, 2021, 04:36:47 PM
Agree with all the above, they do look good. I was hoping for closeups so we could get an idea of colour selection, pattern and technique, as it always helps to learn from others.

If you REALLY want it, I tend to make my own reference notes and selections for each scheme.  Drop me a line if you do.

And thanks guys.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS test minis
Post by: vodkafan on June 21, 2021, 08:29:17 PM
I like it! I would definitely like to see your documentation.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS - painted minis
Post by: Digits on June 27, 2021, 02:04:29 PM
Thanks to Bearwoodman ( Gideon), a crisis has been averted and he has kindly donated a new can of Dullcote to the cause!  This was very timely, as just before I set off to see him, my last can ran out half way through spraying these chaps, the latest batch of painted SS!

Anyway, top chap!

As I said, more SS.  Tried to vary up the mix a little of camouflage combos, but the net effect, is that on the table together, they all look…..green! Lol

Anyway, they are exactly what I was trying to do with them so I’m not complaining!

I want to get straight on with some more.  I can’t do these in large batches…the camouflage  makes my eyes screwy!  A small batch to at least give me two sections ahead of next Saturdays game with the guys.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS - painted minis
Post by: gamer Mac on June 27, 2021, 02:43:10 PM
My eyes are crap too
But with my strongest glasses they look great
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS - painted minis
Post by: CapnJim on June 27, 2021, 04:28:34 PM
Looking good!  I paint my guys (and/or gals, as appropriate) 2 or 3 at a time, to keep my eyes from buggin' out... :o

Your SS boys have perhaps inspired me to move mine up in the painting queue...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS - painted minis
Post by: Ash on June 27, 2021, 05:46:33 PM
Superb job on the camo painting, those close ups look fabulous.
Who makes that chap jumping over the rock in your last pic?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS - painted minis
Post by: Digits on June 27, 2021, 06:27:47 PM
It’s Warlord mate.  They do a set of five minis alighting from half track…called “Raus!”

The same set as the fella in the cap sitting with the mg42gunner knelt beside him.  I just added rocks.

Cheers guys!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: Digits on June 27, 2021, 08:29:06 PM
Jamie dropped off some lovely looking armour today, and I will put pics up next week when I have my table set up.

However, as I had painted the crew in anticipation of its arrival, here is the priest!  Cool model, great paint job!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: gamer Mac on June 27, 2021, 09:00:37 PM
Nice  :-* :-* :-*
How much use is the big beast of a gun in CoC?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: Digits on June 27, 2021, 09:06:12 PM
Potentially very useful for dislodging sections from buildings…..9HE plus top mounted mg….not so shabby.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: has.been on June 27, 2021, 09:34:48 PM
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How much use is the big beast of a gun in CoC?

It is one of Digit's snipers. lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: Just a few orcs on June 27, 2021, 09:37:16 PM
Potentially very useful for dislodging sections from buildings…..9HE plus top mounted mg….not so shabby.

I believe you can only use one of these at a time.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: Digits on June 27, 2021, 10:21:17 PM
I would need to check that as they don’t occupy the same position.  I would have thought so long as a command was issued to each they could fire….but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: Bearwoodman on June 27, 2021, 11:00:38 PM
Excellent work, Digits! Those SS look fearsomely brutish, authentically camouflaged, and of course, not at all shiny!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS and. British Priest
Post by: Digits on June 28, 2021, 06:30:01 AM
Indeed thanks to you!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Waffen SS - painted minis
Post by: Ash on June 28, 2021, 06:49:04 AM
It’s Warlord mate.  They do a set of five minis alighting from half track…called “Raus!”


Cheers for that.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more troops
Post by: Digits on June 29, 2021, 06:40:24 PM
More troops.  Mostly no smock.

A couple of these are from “Raus”, one with an added ppsh.  Have enough for two sections now….still a way to go….

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more troops
Post by: gamer Mac on June 29, 2021, 07:34:38 PM
Nice mixed group :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more troops
Post by: Westbury on June 30, 2021, 09:24:59 AM
Looking really good, hope the forthcoming game goes well for you all.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more troops
Post by: Digits on June 30, 2021, 12:14:03 PM
Cheers guys.  Yup, even though painting camo is laborious, I’m enjoying these minis. 

Hopefully, I can get the balance of the platoon painted over the next couple of weeks.

I have also ordered some support in the form of tripod mg42, small infantry gun IG18, pak 40 and pak 43.   The latter is Heer but a quick paint job to the trousers and they will easily match in.

For the big game this weekend I will mix in the few I’ve painted and borrow Jamie’s Germans to make up numbers.  Playing big CoC so a chance to use some of my armour!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 03, 2021, 07:49:30 AM
Some of the guys are coming over for a game.

The British are ad arcing on the time hamlet of Bidford sur Avon with orders to take and hold the crossroads, ensuring a good line of communication for their breakout.

There are reports that Gerry may be present in force……

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: gamer Mac on July 03, 2021, 09:18:01 AM
Great looking table :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
What size is it?
How many players?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 03, 2021, 02:44:05 PM
It’s a double table so 8’ x 6’, and there were four of us playing.

I will do a quick synopsis of the game in a while, but first I want to show some new toys.  Thanks to Jamie for painting the AFV’s, I love ‘em!

This one made into the game, a Jagdpanzer IV

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/8C69AD30-25D4-4FA2-BDB7-666912B25E5E.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Some great close support in the form of a Brumbar.

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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/07FE9FE4-ECB4-4762-B4F7-EC4CDB29000D.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

And another panzer II!  This picture can’t do it credit.  I will ask Jamie to put up his own pics of the tank…especially as he painted the insides!!!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 03, 2021, 04:43:58 PM
Less a battle report (Us Brits got spanked, twice!!!)
more some eye candy.
First the players:-
Digits (Our genial host) & Vodkafan, both vicious Boch.
Flatpack & myself, has.been, the noble British.

The scene starts quietly enough with the morning mist
settling over the village, & no sign of the war.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 03, 2021, 04:50:52 PM
The mist starts to clear & the farm starts to stir.
The clank, clank, clank of a King-Tiger scares
the British who are due to advance.
It is really the farmer trying to start his rusty
old tractor, but it sets the trend for the attacks.
(Really Digits just wanted to show off his new,
painted by Private Buzz, toy. Nothing to do with
the game, but most definitely 'Eye candy')
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 03, 2021, 04:57:35 PM
The deployment jostling phase.
Brits do get a fair way across the table,
but as it turns out the Germans were
dug in at the buildings. As has been discussed
on LAF crossing open ground, against opposition
who are in hard cover, is near to impossible.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 03, 2021, 05:01:37 PM
Opening moves do not end well for a British tank crew.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: gamer Mac on July 03, 2021, 05:02:35 PM
Some great photos guys :-* :-* :-*
And some very scary ones for the brits
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 03, 2021, 05:21:16 PM
First game lost, or according to the Wyrd Sisters
 in Shakespeare's Macbeth, 'When battle's both
lost and won'. We move on to the very important
business of the day, to wit Sausage Butties, then
we figured enough time for a second game, (which
we Brits also lost.)
It started better, we successfully laid smoke, survived
an ambush shot from a concealed  German anti-tank 
gun, and even caused its crew to break & run, then...
Digits ended the turn (= smoke removed) and managed
to keep rolling double sixes for activation (each time that
gave him another turn) He opened up on the British Inf,
now caught out in the open, then again, then again...
well you get the picture. The rest of us had to leave,
our time was up. For all I know Digits is still rolling double
sixes, caught in his own wonderful version of groundhog day.
To add insult to injury Vodkafan's Pz-Jager successfully hit
& then blew up the out-classed armoured car. When it
exploded it also hit a section of infantry hiding nearby.
Dicing to see if the casualty was the 'leader', not only
was it, but he was ...dead!!!
Best not mention that my dice rolling for risk to officers
this day meant the casualty rate amongst British officers
rivalled the first day of the Somme. 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 03, 2021, 05:33:08 PM
A few pictures to finish off.
Must however offer thanks to:-

Digits, for setting it all up & umpiring (despite playing
as a German he often gave us poor Brits helpful advice)
and providing top class sausages. Poor lad had bust a gut
to build a barbeque, only for the weather to rule out
using it.

Flatpack, for putting up with my horrendous dice throws
and for getting us there when sat-nav lead us to a field!
The perils of Digits living on a very new estate.

Vodkafan, for not once gloating at us poor 'Tommies'.

Wonderful scenery, troops, vehicles & scoff.
Lots of laughs too. We got to 'Throw dice & blow
things up'. What more could we ask for?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 03, 2021, 05:37:37 PM
Yes, hats off to the brave and plucky Brits…… ;)

To be fair, the first game, especially being big CoC and the guys first for a while, was more of a learning curve.   

I actually thought that big CoC would last longer to play out…..but in reality, with more things getting hit all the time, especially today, officers, the morale starts getting sapped quite quickly!  So yes, a second game was in the offing and as Pete said, the Brits started well, with armour hitting and killing some of the dug in Germans, and routing the pak40 crew after killing its officer.

Both games used the same forces and to be fair, to save time, we repeated the same jump off points.

Brits being the attacker had superiority in numbers, with a squadron of Cromwells led by a firefly, the Humber car, and a swollen platoon.

The panzer grenadiers were joined by a jgdpanzer and a STuG, with a pk 40.

Dice rolling definitely defined this one.  As Pete says, I seemed to be unable to throw anything but double six for an awful long time which turned around our fortunes and slowly drained their morale.

Great sports everyone!

The highlight for me as mentioned above was James taking out the Humber after two failed attempts with his Jagdpanzer.  Blowing it up, only Pete could inflict a straight kill on the senior officer standing too close to it!  Priceless.

Enjoyed myself.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Norm on July 03, 2021, 05:53:06 PM
Enjoyed reading that, thank for all the effort in posting.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: vodkafan on July 03, 2021, 08:54:37 PM
More pics from the first game:
 The all-important road junction, the target for the British. Road bisecting the board longways. View from the German side 
(https://i.postimg.cc/59zqx5XZ/20210703-094139.jpg)

The farm yard to the left of the junction and a view down that lane. It's quiet...too damn quiet   :-[
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTSGqkHq/20210703-094219.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tC56TBpm/20210703-094227.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQq8d2H5/20210703-094816.jpg)

The other direction the British could come from is up the road directly to our front...
(https://i.postimg.cc/cCWK1njS/20210703-094758.jpg)

A Cromwell tank rumbles into sight at the end of the lane! The attack is on!
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5JCqh6P/20210703-110211.jpg)

They are soon joined by a squad of regular infantry at the jump off point and an Officer who is inside the building to their rear.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNb5jgPw/20210703-110315.jpg)

I missed pics of the German infantry deployment here. A squad is split between the farm buildings, they have a good view of the British squad and give them a brisk shooting up which causes some casualties.
As feared, British infantry are assembling in the centre also, another two sections.
(https://i.postimg.cc/1tGtdzzY/20210703-111453.jpg)
Meanwhile as the German panzerfuhrer I get a Jagdpanzer on the table and take it off road behind the houses to the right of the junction... more about him later..
(https://i.postimg.cc/qqQ7kZys/20210703-111532.jpg)

I get my other AFV on the table, a war-weary Stug. It rumbles into the farmyard and goes on overwatch. The British infantry have gone to ground out of sight, but if you notice, the business end of my 75mm is aimed at the tiny gap of daylight by the side of the house...notice also that the German half-squad in the farmyard has also taken some casualties from British return fire.
(https://i.postimg.cc/X77J246Q/20210703-114848.jpg)

The British infantry attack begins in the centre.
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This pic is actually from the second game where they tried using some 2" mortar smoke as cover, I didn't have a pic from the first game but the attack was the same.
 
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 A second German infantry squad deploys in front of the farm buildings and fires. The sheer volume of fire from the German MG42s and automatic weapons gives the British an excellent seeing to and breaks up the attack.
   
The Cromwell at the end of the lane advances to give the entrenched SS a taste of 75mm HE.
Unfortunately for him he became visible through the gap and my Stug brewed him up with his first shot.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXrf5RJP/20210703-121205.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rw7wF40P/20210703-121144.jpg)

Meanwhile my Jagdpanzer IV uses the cover of the houses to approach the junction
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6CswwHR/20210703-114921.jpg)
But when he tries to cross the open space he is targeted by another Cromwell tank that has appeared!
(https://i.postimg.cc/G3z3TVTY/20210703-122930.jpg)
 Luckily for me his shot ricochets off my side armour and I make it across the gap, but my crew are rattled!

The British attack fizzled out soon afterwards and they got no nearer to the Junction. The British were especially unlucky to lose three officers, I think two of them were hit twice over.
It was a fun game and us newbies were starting to pick up the rules. Many thanks to Digits for his hospitality and excellent vittles.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: vodkafan on July 03, 2021, 09:14:28 PM
Don't have many pics from the second game, just a couple of my PAK 40 in action.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9QyQ0MdX/20210703-132043.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/FKmsL4py/20210703-132053.jpg)
This failed to knock out the first Cromwell that appeared and then became the target for every other British AFV on the table. The survivors  eventually left the gun and ran away.  lol

And a couple more pics of the lovely King Tiger
(https://i.postimg.cc/j53smJbc/20210703-095231.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RVHMpFb1/20210703-095419.jpg)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 03, 2021, 09:57:14 PM
Nice write up of the first game James!  Glad you popped it up, I forget what order things happened…especially as it seemed to go fast!  ;D

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: gamer Mac on July 03, 2021, 11:48:12 PM
Some great photos :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: flatpack on July 04, 2021, 07:52:53 AM
More pictures from the killing fields.
We Brits tried to advance on the target road junction, but never got close.
German armour and machine gunners appeared from everywhere.
I reckon the only way we could have done it, is with shore bombardment from about 40 battleships.
Enjoyable game.

Initial battlefield.
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Advancing British troops
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Bringing British armour on.
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Lovely armour painted by Jamie.
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British armour take a “lucky” hit from German armour.
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvPD9p63/509-ABFC7-2966-4231-B962-88-CEC2-D41168.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rdcz5SxZ)

So after an early finish in the first game, we Brits tried again, only to come to same conclusion again.

German antitank gunners, firing rounds off at advancing British armour.
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British armour return fire.
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But, yet again, British armour fails again.
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German armour coming forward.
Is that a panzer 2 ? (I do know the answer btw)
(https://i.postimg.cc/NfGHfBMp/4-BF91-E32-BBE3-4498-9-E16-1146-EDFAE2-FF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmDZxV1X)

Good fun, and the day went quickly.
Cheers Digits, lovely set up.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: vodkafan on July 04, 2021, 08:57:11 AM
Great pics of the Sherman Bob and I especially like the pic of the British troops starting to advance through the trees, really put me in mind of some of my favourite old films.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Westbury on July 04, 2021, 09:20:39 AM
I don't know what was funnier, Pete getting his officer killed or the pictures of you all dressed up  lol lol
Nice pictures, hope the rain wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 04, 2021, 09:48:19 AM
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Pete getting his officer killed

Officers, Officers (Plural).
It was getting to remind me of a scene from Spinal Tap,
where they are explaining how all their different drummers
died, 'Well he choked on vomit...wasn't his!'
'Killed when the armoured car exploded... he wasn't in it,
just in the next field'. :o

The rain wasn't a big problem. Digits, with total Teutonic
efficiency looked at his phone & announced, 'It vil rhain in
28 minutes und zen schtop' 'Zer hiz a small poss-a-bill-hitty
hit vill schtart again at 13,00 hours'.
 lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 04, 2021, 10:23:44 AM
And indeed…at 28 minutes it did!

Get yourselves Accuweather app….bloody brilliant!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: vodkafan on July 04, 2021, 11:32:31 AM
@ flatpack: I agree Bob, it WAS a lucky shot through the gap, I never expected it to work so well to be honest.
Thinking about the game again 24 hours later, I think the British would have had to start with at least twice the number of infantry to have any chance of success, and with the whole troop of British tanks putting pressure on all at once to keep the german defenders busy. You might have lost half or all your tanks  in the process but once the infantry were up in amongst the houses superior numbers would have told....the terrain made us make choices, I like games which do that.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 04, 2021, 01:27:04 PM
To be honest, that wouldn’t really matter.  It’s the speed at which you loose assets or they get injured / broken that reduces the morale so fast. 

In realising just how fast this happens with multiple players….I have to think it would be better to adjust the starting morale levels up to start with!

The Brits rolled poorly on the first game starting morale…that really didn’t help.  Combine that with the “luck” or rather lack of it, every time Pete rolled on his saves…..more kills than shock and then almost every time, hitting an officer!    The kills, had they not been an officer, do not necessarily diminish your morale so fast, but the number of officer kills and injuries was just too great.

Let’s be fair, this was more a learning opportunity (and fun) than a hard game with everyone knowing the rules and having experience of it. 

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 04, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Sounds like great fun. Gorgeous models and table.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: CapnJim on July 04, 2021, 03:47:45 PM
Great table, vehicles and figs.  Sounds like the British tankers need a refresher course.... :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: flatpack on July 04, 2021, 09:47:20 PM
British tankers need a refresher course ?
Every time we entered the table we were fired on and hit, and destroyed.
I would not have liked to be a british tank crew in 1944.
Tommy cooker was the correct phrase, me thinks.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: CapnJim on July 05, 2021, 01:46:49 AM
British tankers need a refresher course ?
Every time we entered the table we were fired on and hit, and destroyed.

Yes, well then, there is that... :o

Our tank duels usually aren't that lopsided.  As an example, our most recent WW2 game saw 2 US Shermans go against a StuG and a Panzer IV.  At the end of it all, the StuG was KO'ed and one of the Shermans abandoned.   The Panzer hid behind the burning StuG covering the road, and the other Sherman got off the road to cover the GI's advance.

Now, when our British Paras put a PIAT on the field, that's a different ballgame.  For reasons known only to the dice gods, our PIATs tend to do yeoman's work with German armor... :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Marine0846 on July 05, 2021, 12:21:27 PM
Lovely table.
Great looking figures.
Looks to have been fun,
even if you were on the losing side. :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Bearwoodman on July 05, 2021, 07:18:14 PM
As others have said that was a great looking and (most importantly) fun looking game! As for the outcome, well I would not claim to be an expert, but it would seem to reflect quite accurately some of those grinding Normandy battles. Perhaps the allied players can console themselves with the thought of what the RAF is doing to the German supply lines.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: has.been on July 06, 2021, 06:44:38 AM
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allied players can console themselves with the thought of what the RAF is doing to the German supply lines.

Despite the air attacks (Rain stopped the use of the Barbie)
 Digits still managed to produce a ready supply of sausage batches...
So the Germans managed to do their Wurst. :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 07, 2021, 10:34:48 AM
Despite the air attacks (Rain stopped the use of the Barbie)
 Digits still managed to produce a ready supply of sausage batches...
So the Germans managed to do their Wurst. :D

Not a Wurst Case Scenario then.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Sgt_T on July 07, 2021, 01:38:20 PM
Very nice looking table and game.
Rapid collapse of force morale due to leaders being killed fits with my CoC gaming experience.

T.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: Digits on July 07, 2021, 02:11:24 PM
I hope your dice are better than Pete’s! Lol

All you had to say to him, was “don’t roll a one”…and he would!   :D

Anyway…back to painting some minis hopefully.

I want to finish the SS platoon over the next week or so.  I have a few support options too, mainly guns…..pak 43, IG18 and pak 40….but I suspect these will take a bit longer.

I want to get my TBM church painted too and I realised playing this game, I need a few more dug outs to make!  So plenty to keep me occupied….
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a game of BIG CoC
Post by: vodkafan on July 07, 2021, 09:41:07 PM
I hope your dice are better than Pete’s! Lol

All you had to say to him, was “don’t roll a one”…and he would!   :D



I know....it's legendary and fun to watch...something to do with quantum forces.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: has.been on July 07, 2021, 10:04:16 PM
Quote
I know....it's legendary and fun to watch...something to do with quantum forces.

I blame another of our group, 'Dicemaster' (Garry). For him
to keep throwing all the sixes that he does, the gods of
probability demand a sacrificial sap (me) to even things up. :D :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: flatpack on July 08, 2021, 07:48:21 PM
Digits.
Just an idea, but you could save yourself some time painting.
Cut the German figures in half.
Paint just this top half and base it.
This would drop nicely into the dug out, as I can’t remember seeing a German infantryman, that was not in a dug out  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: vodkafan on July 08, 2021, 11:07:44 PM
Digits.
Just an idea, but you could save yourself some time painting.
Cut the German figures in half.
Paint just this top half and base it.
This would drop nicely into the dug out, as I can’t remember seeing a German infantryman, that was not in a dug out  lol

Yes Blitzkreig was definitely off the menu by that stage of the war, the Germans didn't budge out of the dug outs or the buildings our whole game did they?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: has.been on July 09, 2021, 06:51:09 AM
Quote
Yes Blitzkreig was definitely off the menu by that stage of the war, the Germans didn't budge out of the dug outs or the buildings our whole game did they?

Unless they were in a blooming heavy AFV, & even then they
had to be low down ones, ain't that right Oberleutnant James?? :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: Digits on July 09, 2021, 07:28:54 AM
Me thinks we will have a return battle and switch sides if you think it unbalanced  ;)

Maybe we will even get to use the bbq?!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - firepower
Post by: Digits on July 09, 2021, 03:03:57 PM
Time to add a little firepower to the SS.

Panzerschreck, MG2 mmg, lmg team and their commander.

Next I will paint a batch of eight infantry to finish the core platoon along with a sniper team to give me a couple of support options.   After that, six riflemen to be able to play either grenadiers or panzer grenadiers, and a few heavy guns.  I actually painted the heer pak 43 team whilst doing these, but I will paint the gun first I think before putting up.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/23BF4306-D1CE-4EC4-9104-0EEE7C0E0D6D.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - firepower
Post by: gamer Mac on July 09, 2021, 03:18:27 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
But do you not need more crew for the MMG?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - firepower
Post by: Digits on July 09, 2021, 03:30:00 PM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/23BF4306-D1CE-4EC4-9104-0EEE7C0E0D6D.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)


It’s easy to remember they start with five crew…once casualties start to reduce them, we use a red dice to denote crew left.   Only comes with three crew, I added a fourth at least!

Next batch started…..

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: Digits on July 11, 2021, 11:56:21 AM
The last of the base platoon are painted!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/81DE1849-662A-4665-801F-50CE7448A8ED.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

I like these guys.  A bit gritty for sure but suitably aggressive looking.  Now to do a few more supports…

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/1CA330B2-E785-4A24-ABF8-5D35E1EA5BD6.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: gamer Mac on July 11, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Nice  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: Romark on July 11, 2021, 12:59:27 PM
Love 'em  :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: Mindenbrush on July 12, 2021, 03:23:16 PM
Excellent work
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: Digits on July 12, 2021, 06:08:57 PM
Cheers guys, thanks for the comments.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: vodkafan on July 12, 2021, 09:31:43 PM
Looking excellent and menacing for the Fatherland!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: CapnJim on July 20, 2021, 05:17:52 PM
Those guys sure look the part.  I really like the officer on the black great coat.  I have him, too.  He very much looks the part of a senior Leutnant or a Hauptmann...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: moiterei_1984 on July 20, 2021, 06:01:41 PM
They’re looking absolutely ace!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: Ragnar on August 05, 2021, 04:59:14 AM
Excellent painting.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: tancrede on August 05, 2021, 07:47:14 AM
Very good painting !  :-*
Hope to see more soon.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - painted platoon
Post by: Digits on August 05, 2021, 08:47:04 AM
Cheers fellas.

More to come soon enough…just dabbling with a few ancient Germans!  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Digits on August 07, 2021, 04:27:47 PM
So, had another enjoyable game at Jamie’s today.

Before kicking off, Jamie handed me my latest additions to the cause.

When deciding to do the King Tiger, I actually bought both a resin one from Warlord, and the hyper detailed plastic one on earlier pages.  Jamie has thoughtfully painted the resin one now in Winter dress and it looks the dogs!

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But, after all the joshing, I do now finally have a panzer II…..Luchs.  Great little recon tank for our Normandy gaming.  He’s done a sterling job of course!

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/77D482DE-FCED-4997-A6A0-9C90D282EBA7.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

I will do a battle write up later…….
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 07, 2021, 05:03:07 PM
Both look great. Nice work.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Romark on August 07, 2021, 05:06:26 PM
Both look great. Nice work.
Seconded!👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: gamer Mac on August 07, 2021, 05:44:02 PM
Cracking job on those
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Digits on August 07, 2021, 06:21:39 PM
Cheers guys, I will pass on the comments!

So, today’s battle.

Somewhere in France, US glider troops have been given the mission to seize the bridge.  Attacking from the North, defences unknown, but not believed too heavy.

The two main features of this battlefield being the Marshy area, inaccessible to vehicles and heavy going for infantry and a large band of light orchard.  Main thing here is the orchard affords light cover and visibility within is limited to 18” (6” if firing from without).

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US forces had rolled and started with I think 9 support points after adjusting the force rating to include a 60mm mortar over and above a regular infantry section.  The Germans (regular grenadiers) got half of this, plus being two points light on force, meant they started with 6 points.

Force morale for the US 8 ( must have been worried) and the Germans 11 (feeling giddy and secure in the knowledge they were the master race!)

When all the jump off points had been established, the two hedge lines encompassing the orchard held the majority, with one in my bottom left and one on the objective.

The US immediately deployed forward of their jump off points safe in the knowledge they could not be seen at range, and proceeded to move rapidly across the orchard, knowing their artillery barrage was keeping the Germans down in their foxholes.  Indeed for the first phases, I was unable to bring anything on, and I began to think they would overrun my two hedge row jump off points before I could get anything on the table.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Digits on August 07, 2021, 06:58:17 PM
And then, I had a stroke of luck.  Rolling three sixes, the turn ended and the barrage lifted.  Because I retained the dice, I rolled again and a near perfect set of dice allowed me to deploy all three of my sections, my leader (he may have come out the next phase…I’m struggling to remember) and my only real support choice (having opted for a pair of entrenchments), a tripod MG42.  I was initially going to hold a section back to deploy near the bridge, however, thinking I had an opportunity to dish out a lot of firepower on these encroaching sections, I deployed them all along the lower orchard hedge line.  Luckily for me, I had a section on each side of the road within 18 inches…and let rip.

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The weight of fire inflicted 6 kills, 7 shock and injured a section leader rendering him temporarily ineffective.  This bloody nose stopped the Americans in their tracks and all three sections pulled back out of sight managing to inflict a pair of kills on the tripod mg team first, allowing their second leader to catch up with them to help steady their nerves.

They brought a 60 mm mortar onto the field but needed to despatch a scouting pair forward in order to act as eyes for the mortar.  Unable to initially deal with the scouts, I then suffered a few hits from the well spotted mortar and started picking up a little shock. 

The Americans moved a section to my left, crossing the road but this afforded my overwatching section to spot it and inflicted a few more casualties before moving a squad and my leader left to help counter the building threat on the left.

Deploying a smoke grenade the left most US section started coming forward but I was able to pin them and I sent the spotters running.  Getting a wound on their senior leader helped but their morale was dropping.   Eventually I broke this lead section, then immediately played my CoC dice to end the turn.  Rolls on Bad things Happen then dropped their morale to zero giving me the win.

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This could have gone either way though…I was lucky seeing as another phase or two under the pre game barrage would have lost me the two forward jump off points.  Getting a turn end and perfect deployment dice was a fluke and without it, I very much doubt I would have prevailed.    We will replay this one so I imagine a different result will come.

Cheers Jamie, good day and great sport.  Loved the table mate. 

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Marine0846 on August 07, 2021, 07:31:01 PM
Excellent table.
Love it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: 2010sunburst on August 07, 2021, 07:45:50 PM
Great table and nicely written report. 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: has.been on August 07, 2021, 08:22:43 PM
Looks like a good game.
Jamie does good stuff, not just WW2 tanks.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: vodkafan on August 07, 2021, 09:40:23 PM

 (6” if firing from without).

 

Will go back to reading the Battle report in a minute. Just wanted to say top marks for using the old fashioned form of "without" as the opposite of "within". It is a lovely word and much nicer than saying "from outside"  8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: Digits on August 07, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
The benefits of a public school education! Lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: vodkafan on August 07, 2021, 09:55:07 PM
Wow very quick and brutal game.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: flatpack on August 08, 2021, 08:04:49 AM
Well done in getting a game played.
It all looks very nice.
Love those tanks Jamie.
Panzer 2 - you know it will sweep the battlefield clear...lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: has.been on August 08, 2021, 08:23:16 AM
Quote
Will go back to reading the Battle report in a minute. Just wanted to say top marks for using the old fashioned form of "without" as the opposite of "within". It is a lovely word and much nicer than saying "from outside"  8)

Without a doubt.  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: gamer Mac on August 08, 2021, 08:58:24 AM
Lovely job on that table :-* :-* :-*
Nice close up of your figures as well
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer II!
Post by: MaleGriffin on August 09, 2021, 11:33:26 PM
Fan-freakin-tastic! Absolutely Brilliant!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 18, 2021, 08:23:45 PM
Have to come up with a scenario for this Saturdays game……think it is going to be nasty! Lol

Pak 43 “ Barn Door”

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I have the dismantled carriage wheel sets to paint and mount on a separate base.  May make a useful jump off marker….
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 18, 2021, 09:14:11 PM
Looks rather good. Who'd be a Sherman driver?

I do like the colour on the brass shell casing. What colour are you using?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 18, 2021, 09:27:45 PM


I do like the colour on the brass shell casing. What colour are you using?


Cheers.  GW paints

Base Balthasar Gold

Then Sycorax Bronze

Then Agrax Earthshade wash
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 18, 2021, 11:08:57 PM
Ta. It's come out well.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: gamer Mac on August 18, 2021, 11:19:57 PM
Nice :-* :-* :-*
Where did the camo net come from?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 19, 2021, 04:49:03 AM
It’s crepe bandage, soaked / sprayed greens/ browns.  Cut in pieces then soaked in diluted pvs, squeezed out and positioned.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 19, 2021, 02:27:07 PM
It would be cruel though wouldn’t it?

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: gamer Mac on August 19, 2021, 05:29:57 PM
Are these both Warlord?
And it wouldn't be cruel lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 19, 2021, 05:41:54 PM
Yup, both Warlord. The 88 is an absolute beast of a gun!

We’ve decided on a scenario for Saturday.  US infantry with a troop of M4’s have been assigned the task of locating and destroying a suspected ant tank gun in position which has been causing mayhem and already accounted for a number of tanks and various supports.

To make matters worse, this is Bocage country!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 19, 2021, 06:50:52 PM
Yup, both Warlord. The 88 is an absolute beast of a gun!

We’ve decided on a scenario for Saturday.  US infantry with a troop of M4’s have been assigned the task of locating and destroying a suspected ant tank gun in position which has been causing mayhem and already accounted for a number of tanks and various supports.

To make matters worse, this is Bocage country!

if I had a Pak 43 and a Pak 40 I would prefer not Bocage. I would ping those Shermans long before they could see me. In Bocage I would just be taking a dozen panzerfausts and panzerschrecks.  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 19, 2021, 07:07:47 PM
Yup, I thought that too, but they have to flush out a gun, so be it!

In other news….I’m stoked!

Just realised Warlord have released a box of Panzer Lehr!

I can add them to my Artizan Lehr and find a few minis to pop about them and try and build a Lehr platoon!  Brilliant!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: has.been on August 19, 2021, 08:28:51 PM
David! Too much leering.  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 19, 2021, 08:30:24 PM
Yup, I thought that too, but they have to flush out a gun, so be it!

In other news….I’m stoked!

Just realised Warlord have released a box of Panzer Lehr!

I can add them to my Artizan Lehr and find a few minis to pop about them and try and build a Lehr platoon!  Brilliant!

You do know Wargames Atlantic are releasing a box of plastic Panzer Lehr don't you?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 19, 2021, 09:11:58 PM
I didn’t but that’s great…as long as they match up in size.

Cheers!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: vodkafan on August 19, 2021, 11:02:08 PM
Seems like such a wicked gun should not have ordinary humans clustered around it... should have a demon crew! Can't wait to see it painted.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Something for the weekend!
Post by: Digits on August 20, 2021, 06:40:02 AM
I’d argue the gun in the previous page is the one that should be manned by demons but the pak 40 was still a very nasty gun.  I know the 88 (in its various forms) has the kudos for being the scariest killer but when mentioning German anti tank guns, it’s always the pak 40 I immediately see in my minds eye.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Digits on August 22, 2021, 10:02:47 AM
So, yesterday’s game was to be set in the Bocage!

Reports indicated a German 88 to be causing significant bother in the area, and the Americans were tasked with flushing it out.

The US infantry were supported by three Sherman 4s and a few other minor supports in clouding adjutant, engineers and a second bazooka team.

Opposing them, a Grenadier platoon, with slightly less than half the US support points, consisting one big nasty pak43 88mm anti tank gun and I opted for a second panzerschreck.

We had opted to add three morale points to our roll off to a max 11, which we both duly achieved.

The battlefield was typical Bocage, with the Americans fighting up the board as we see it.

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For the first dozen or so phases, the Americans picked their way forward, opting to spread their force on a side front, with the three Sherman’s each taking a separate track.  The Germans managing to keep their heads well and truly down, as the Americans took up overwatch positions toward their suspected lines.

All the while this was happening, we were both amassing a lot of rolled fives and adding to our collection of CoC dice.

The Americans, in an effort to either force the Germans hand, or to give themselves an opportunity to create a further forward jump off position, despatched a pair of scouts to reconnoiter forward on their left flank.  Their command tank taking up position their too.

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I held off and watched the scouts approaching, almost letting them overrun my own jump off before deciding I’d best try to see them off.  A section deployed directly in front of the scouts and mowed them down.  Jamie had by his own admission forgotten to deploy his further jump off marker, but with his sections and tank on overwatch, responded, injuring and dropping my squad leader, inflicting a few casualties and a handful of shock.

I had no choice in my next phase but to pull them back from the firing line to save them getting chewed up further.

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The Americans now pushed their infantry through the Bocage hedgerows and started the advance on the now pinpointed enemy positions.   The command tank, maintained an overwatch position whilst directing his troop forward.  One heading down the road, whilst the third tank pushed forward on his right flank to support the infantry there.

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My dilemma, was that there was no position I could deploy my pak where it would be able to fire on more than one tank.  I opted to try and concentrate its effort therefore on the command tank on my right flank.  With its first shot, it struck the Sherman but glanced harmlessly away!  Oh no!

I deployed another squad into the position vacated by the first section, to try and stem the approaching infantry.

The Sherman commander, using both his main gun, and the top mounted mg, inflicted a couple of kills on the pak team, including their junior leader and four shock!   

I had to deploy my senior leader, and join the pak team in order to steady their nerves.

Meanwhile, the Sherman coming down the road was heading flat out so I decided to deploy my platoon panzerschreck team, who also scored a magnificent shot on the approaching tank, but it too bounced off!   Gott im Himmel!   Either the Americans had seriously beefed up their frontal armour, or I was been supplied with poor quality munitions!

I had no choice but to declare my final hand and deploy my support shrek to also target this encroaching bull.  Again, my men’s training ensured another difficult shot, and this time, the tank erupted in a ball of flame as it blew up.

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Infantry traded fire on my right flank, and I started to take losses among my engaged section but equally the leading American section was taking a lot of heat.

The command Sherman continued to pump HE into my lines, using one of his CoC dice to interrupt my own firing.  However, once the interruption had occurred, I was able to once again bring a hitting shot onto the hull down comman tank, and this time, the tank was knocked out, the crew bailing out.

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The attack on my left flank was developing, an I started to redeploy one of my panzershrek teams in order to support the beleaguered section facing the developing attack.

However, with CoC dice available to me, I was finally able to inflict sufficient shock on the exposed lead section to my right, to break it then end the turn, thus running Jamie’s morale wheel to naught. 

Interesting game and despite at times my dice yielding very little comfort, I was buoyed by the fact that every time I fired on a tank, despite at times needing difficult dice to hit, I was throwing lucky dice and hit every time.

It was interesting to play with some of our armour, and I would like to play the reverse some time with a German counter attack, with my IV’s against an embedded Allied force.  I have to admit however, for two points on the support list, the panzershrek is a very tasty choice.

Thanks Jamie, good game.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Romark on August 22, 2021, 11:28:48 AM
Lovely looking game 👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: gamer Mac on August 22, 2021, 11:55:11 AM
Great looking game really captured the feel of the tight confines of the bocage
Not having played a lot of games with tanks, how do you get to activate them so much?
The last time we played my tank came on then didn't activate very often
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Digits on August 22, 2021, 12:33:28 PM
It could be a problem for sure….but having three tanks meant one of them was assigned troop leader so he activated on a four as a senior leader….the others on threes.   Further more, using the radio net, he could command another tank to move or fire using one of his command initiatives.

The alternative would have been big CoC but that would have been very unbalanced.

Like all games designed to give both players an equal chance at winning, the games are typically more balanced than reality would have been.  The allies were able to overwhelm the Germans with weight of numbers. 

I suspect that in order to represent this, especially when using armour in this fashion, I would be inclined to add a pair of different coloured dice to the allied roll each phase.  Any natural threes (or a 1&2 combined)  being immediate assigned to a tank, ignoring all other
Results including fives and sixes.

That, or simply allow tanks to activate on a two…..but they only get to either move or fire?


Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: vodkafan on August 24, 2021, 09:48:14 PM
That did look most interesting. I bet you could play exactly the same scenario 3 times without changing the starting forces and not get the same result. The first couple of paragraphs I thought this was going to be a US win.  :o
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Digits on August 25, 2021, 12:21:58 AM
Indeed!  When I pulled the first section out I immediately kicked myself for allowing the Americans to get into overwatch positions!  Then, when the pak team took a couple of kills and a batch of shock, I thought it was over. 

Fortunes however can change very rapidly in CoC!

Once I’ve finished painting up the last few SS supports, I will eventually turn my hand to painting the British paras.   It will be interesting to play them against German armour!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 29, 2021, 12:51:38 PM
Thanks for the pictures and write-up, very tasty looking game. More please.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Littlearmies on September 09, 2021, 07:12:26 AM
Have you considered the Pint Sized Campaigns? Several of them cover actions in Normandy - "29 Let's Go" pits inexperienced US infantry versus run of the mill Germans, "Scottish Corridor" and "Operation Martlet" depict British / German actions West of Caen, whilst "Kampfgruppe von Luck" has British paratroopers against the panzer grenadiers of the 21st Panzer Division - so you can add Unix half-tracks and Lorraine Schleppers to your forces. Playing mini-campaigns probably highlights the best of the CoC rules IMHO. And at £4.75 they're great value.     
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Shahbahraz on September 09, 2021, 07:38:08 AM
yep, what he said, the CoC Pint Sized Campaigns are really wargaming at its best IMHO. And even if you don't play Chain of Command, the scenarios and maps are worth the price alone.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bocage encounter!
Post by: Digits on September 09, 2021, 09:38:35 AM
Yup we have played and are going to play more campaigns…fear not!

Cheers
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Digits on November 23, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
Thought I’d share this.  Jamie painted me a French SOMUA taken into German service.

Lovely little tank.  I need to do a head swap on the commander before adding him.

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Just picking the brushes and applying them to up a few more troops to bolster firstly the SS….
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: has.been on November 23, 2021, 05:32:11 PM
Jamie does great work, but please don't distract him from
doing our AK47 map. :D :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: vodkafan on November 23, 2021, 07:20:22 PM
Very pretty. Aim the anti tank gun at the upper/lower hull join... ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: has.been on November 23, 2021, 08:21:30 PM
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Very pretty. Aim the anti tank gun at the upper/lower hull join... ;)

"But Sarge, I can't see where that is,
it's too darn well camo painted!"
 lol lol lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Digits on November 23, 2021, 08:33:03 PM
Apparently as it was a cast hull, it was considered well armoured but then also expensive to maintain. 

Don’t worry, Jamie painted this a little while back, I’ve only just got round to posting it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: flatpack on November 24, 2021, 07:24:47 AM
Nice job Jamie.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Digits on December 18, 2021, 04:37:36 PM
Just had another game at Jamie’s, lovely table, straight forward cross table patrol encounter. 

I’m sorry to say only a small handful of pictures……a shame because I don’t have a full table shot, a lovely rural setting in French hedgerow country.

There is no real battle report to run with these shots, suffice to say that it was a game strangely devoid of infantry firing action.

The Americans, certainly I feel got a good spread of jump off points.  It was obvious that for any real fire fights, sections would need to close up considerably with all those hedge rows.  My jump off was a little more restricted, but I did see an opportunity develop over the initial phases of the game when realising the Americans chose to ignore my right, where the two houses with their walled gardens could afford a solid defensible point.   

As the game got underway, I tried bringing my off board mortars to bear, but Jamie thwarted what may have been a damaging barrage by calling a CoC dice and ending the turn thus scuppering the potential carnage and severing my link to the battery.

However, as has proven the case more often than not in the last few games, my fellas deployed a sniper, pretty much the only guy to gain any height advantage and thus have a pick of targets.  With the very first shot of the game, I killed a section junior leader.

In fact, almost every time he fired thereafter, he gained a kill, only for the kill to be a casualty on an officer!   Now this happened a lot in our last game too….with pretty much every kill when checked, appearing to be a hit on his command staff.

I could say it’s my flukey dice, but to be fair, the owning player makes the rolls to determine the effects of hits and whether or not it’s an officer effected and the subsequent roll to see what happens to the force morale.  So I’ve come to the conclusion that despite doing very little wrong tactically, Jamie’s dice are in the hands of a very fickle dice god!

The Yanks did bring on a Sherman which sat in overwatch for a little while before moving down the road to attack the massing German infantry among the walled garden of the buildings. Unfortunately, it then fell fowl of my other favourite piece…the dreaded panzershrek which I carry with every regular infantry platoon as a part of the command section.    With thirteen dice it meant that I put four net hits on it on my first shot knocking it out…yet another hit on their morale.  It’s a horrible thing to face off to, but I always seem to be able to pull off a hit, then with all that armour piercing goodness, it’s a matter of relying on the laws of averages to inflict pain.

I was able to then bring on my panzer II Luchs which up to this point  had been hiding from the Sherman, and it managed a kill and a few shock for its inaugural outing.

I managed to overrun a jump off point then end the turn to force another roll on their morale.

By now Jamie was down to three  command dice, never a great position to be, and a plucky US senior leader (that had taken over the leaderless section) tried to flush out with grenades a German section that had recently occupied the building next to them only to get charged by another german section that inflicted sufficient casualties with a flurry of stick grenades to see the game carried.


So, great thanks to Jamie for hosting.   Enjoyed the game and look forward to the next one.  You’d best make a few offerings to your dice gods though fella!  ;)

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Now I’ve shamed myself, I’ve had to make up numbers in my summer German numbers with winter guys for the last three or four games…..I MUST get a few minis painted!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 18, 2021, 05:22:11 PM
Good looking game that sounds like great fun!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: has.been on December 18, 2021, 08:27:41 PM
Digits creating merry hell with a hand held anti-tank weapon?
Well shave my beard & call me normal!!! :o :o :o

Good looking game & sounds like you had fun.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Traveler Man on December 18, 2021, 08:44:57 PM
Great gaming set-up!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Digits on December 19, 2021, 12:49:29 AM
Digits creating merry hell with a hand held anti-tank weapon?
Well shave my beard & call me normal!!! :o :o :o

Yup, even I have to agree it’s becoming a trait! Lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: flatpack on December 19, 2021, 08:24:37 AM
Great looking table.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: vodkafan on December 19, 2021, 11:46:16 AM
Those cabbages look ready.  lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Digits on December 19, 2021, 12:02:47 PM
Yes, my Germans were able to enjoy a nice bowl of sauerkraut following this little skirmish!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Paratrooper 42 on December 20, 2021, 06:09:03 PM
oh to have a gaming setup as good as that.  :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Digits on December 30, 2021, 02:16:44 PM
Not painted in a while so time to get a few bits done.  First up a few riflemen so I can field as standard rather than panzer grenadiers without me robbing my winter guys.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: Romark on December 30, 2021, 06:46:37 PM
Nice additions to the collection 👍
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - German Reinforcements
Post by: CapnJim on December 31, 2021, 10:48:55 PM
They look good to me!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more firepower!
Post by: Digits on January 04, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
Thanks chaps!

Ok…light fading and I realise I still need to highlight the faces…otherwise done (I may just pop some camouflage on the anti tank gun….)

More support firepower…..pak 40, IG18 and forward observer to bring in all that lovely mortar fire!

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Still think I’m missing a gun or two mind…. ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more firepower!
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 04, 2022, 05:39:32 PM
Looking great, nice and dirty, and I particularly like the observer, especially as I have just painted many of the same figures ;)

I just wish manufacturers supplied more crew with their guns. Bringing them up to 5 crew for the standard Chain of Command rules can be really difficult.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more firepower!
Post by: Digits on January 04, 2022, 06:19:49 PM
Thank you fella.

I agree, an extra pack of crew would be good…but as I mentioned before, sometimes the base can be too crowded (especially as I glue everything in place before painting!) unless you make the base bigger.  I don’t like huge bases though as they are often awkward to place properly on the table.  As such, we simply remember the crew losses with red micro dice (red = dead, white = shock), and unless you were basing to be able to remove minis, this way is perfectly reasonable.

I only realised the prone guy looking through field glasses is identical in both the spotter pack and the IG 18 ……except they’ve added a machine pistol to the spotter.


Artizan do a nice set of crew that match in with Warlord and I went that way with the winter chaps.   I have another bigger gun to do yet, so I may add another fella to that one.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more firepower!
Post by: PrivateBuzz on January 04, 2022, 06:40:43 PM
Very nice!

Absolutely no need for more guns! :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - more firepower!
Post by: Digits on January 04, 2022, 06:46:33 PM
 lol You can NEVER have too many guns!

No I quite fancy a 10.5cm artillery piece.   At only a point more than the IG.18 I think it may compliment it nicely!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town
Post by: Digits on January 09, 2022, 07:00:54 PM
Played the first map in the pint sized campaign, Bazooka Town on Saturday.

This campaign concerns the actions of the US 3rd Armored Division. The progress being made from the Remagan bridgehead by 28th March was so impressive that the First Army was directed towards Paderborn, with the 3rd Armored Division forming the spearhead for this advance.

Not too many pics as to be fair….I got my arse handed to me before I could get much on the table!

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Jamie brought on the sizeable chunk of his force whilst I decided to hold back and make him come towards me.  However, I made a very fatal mistake in thinking I needed to push my jump off points up table into the woods.  In reality, what I did was expose them to a nicely concocted marching barrage of 81mm mortar fire that saw me paralysed pretty much as soon as it started.   He managed to accumulate a CoC dice before me so I couldn’t end it and losing about a dozen chaps, withdrew to lick wounds and hope to hold him on the next map.

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Good win for Jamie….
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: Digits on January 14, 2022, 03:20:56 PM
Other maps will require a LOT of buildings and Jamie is doing most of those in mdf.   Thought I’d paint another of my TBM buildings to help out…

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: BillK on January 14, 2022, 03:30:26 PM
Really like that building. Well done.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: has.been on January 14, 2022, 06:17:18 PM
Oooh! that looks nice.
Who makes it?
Is that the roof it comes with?
how much does it cost?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: Digits on January 14, 2022, 06:29:14 PM
Cheers guys

All your answers Pete

https://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/28mm-ss-western-europe
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: has.been on January 14, 2022, 06:35:05 PM
Cheers David. Bookmarked for now, just awaiting...money  :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: Digits on January 14, 2022, 06:42:44 PM
Pretty much all my models are TBM.    I just wish they did a few more!   I still have the church and a couple of small buildings to paint…in fact I just popped the double damaged building on my paint tray.

The real shame is, years ago I picked up a rather nice cafe de Normandie by Grand Manner but sold it thinking I wouldn’t be doing 28mm……now they don’t stock it  :(

Wish I could get my hands on another.   There doesn’t seem to be much else available unless you want mdf…but not really my thing.   In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, they can look stunning, but I prefer resin.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front
Post by: CapnJim on January 14, 2022, 10:12:17 PM
Nice job on that building.  I've been looking at TBM stuff.  Afraid to see what shipping would be to the States.... :o
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a few more buildings
Post by: Digits on January 17, 2022, 08:51:46 PM
Don’t know….but order enough and they may do you a deal?

Anyway, I’m not mad keen painting buildings, but I have come to realise that worse than painting a building, is painting a wrecked one! Lol

Anyway, it will do.   I will highlight the door when it dries and maybe add a touch of weathering powder when I can get outside.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a few more buildings
Post by: Tommy20 on January 17, 2022, 09:30:24 PM
Gorgeous stuff!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a few more buildings
Post by: Captain Blood on January 17, 2022, 11:37:14 PM
Good job on the buildings  8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a few more buildings
Post by: levied troop on January 18, 2022, 08:09:57 AM
Very nice work on the building and that table looks superb.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a few more buildings
Post by: Digits on January 18, 2022, 12:07:11 PM
Thank you chaps.   Next I might have a go at the church.    I’m leaning towards getting their Black Powder range church as it’s slightly smaller but looks more rustic / rural than the one I have.  None the less, choice will be good anyway.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - a few more buildings
Post by: MaleGriffin on January 18, 2022, 03:38:54 PM
Fantastic work! As I said before, it keeps getting better and better!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 20, 2022, 12:41:51 PM
Cheers matey!

So, the TBM church, based on the Church at Foy in the Ardennes I believe, has been sitting unpainted for a while as I wasn’t struck on it.  My perception of an old Norman church in England meant I was struggling to see the attraction of it with its peculiarly shaped steeple.

However, despite my reservations painting buildings, I enjoyed this one and it has grown on me.  I’m particularly chuffed with my attempt at lead flashing! Lol

I still need to paint the interior, but I have added a little climber to it.

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The original I think.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 20, 2022, 01:43:23 PM
I think this might be your nicest building you've done so far
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 20, 2022, 01:47:00 PM
Ha!  Cheers fella….you are probably right……getting the practice me thinks.

I need them to release a few more buildings now though!   I only have two small houses left  :(
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 20, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
Loving it mate, great work! Brilliant earthy color palette.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: gamer Mac on January 20, 2022, 05:55:34 PM
Cracking job :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Tommy20 on January 20, 2022, 06:34:12 PM
That's outstanding!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 20, 2022, 07:34:56 PM
Just wondering when the photograh was taken.As the alcove has a pane of glass covering it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 20, 2022, 07:47:31 PM
Heh heh!


They based their model on the refit!    The stucco walls on the sides clearly cover up the replacement brickwork!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: has.been on January 20, 2022, 07:59:15 PM
'Typical shabby Nazi trick Sgt. Wilson,
firing on a Church!'

Lovely paint jobs you are doing David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Ash on January 20, 2022, 08:42:12 PM
Lovely painting on that church, the lead looks particularly realistic.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 20, 2022, 10:06:58 PM
Thanks all, much appreciated comments, glad you like it!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: CapnJim on January 21, 2022, 12:11:39 AM
Love the church!  The Parish Council is gonna have to hold a lot of bake sales to fix that hole, though... :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: levied troop on January 21, 2022, 06:58:03 AM
Great work on that church. I’ve painted one of those myself but I’m going to have to have another look at it, seeing your lovely work on the roof in particular.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 21, 2022, 10:22:22 AM
Oddly enough I think it's actually glazed in the bw photo.
Your right the model Has more than a little artistic license since the damage location isn't consistent with the period photo.Even allowing for the spire.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 21, 2022, 10:50:31 AM
I’ve been looking for pictures of it (St Barbara’s Chapel) from before the war but so far nothing.   I even wonder if the steeple was that shape before it got blown off.   There is another picture I’ve seen of another chapel near Bastogne which was also hit in the steeple, but the roof, identical to this one, is still teetering above the damaged brickwork.


This church at Foy, was made a little famous in Band of Brothers

“Easy Company, 506th PIR, 101st Airborne were pinned down and taking casualties by a sniper laying in the top of this church. This moment is reenacted in the HBO series Band of Brothers. Staff Sergeant Darrell C. "Shifty" Powers is the soldier who ultimately killed the sniper.”
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 21, 2022, 12:12:03 PM
I profoundly dislike many aspects of Band of Brothers .  It's more a social commentary reflecting the time of its making in early 2000's.
For one the way Albert  Blithe is portrayed and the inference that he never truly recovered from the his injuries slinking away to die a broken man. Is appalling.   It couldn't  be further from the truth. He went on to fight in Korea earning Both the Silver star ,  3 Bronze stars, and 3 Purple hearts .( He actually died in 67 from complications due to a perforated ulcer still a serving member of the forces.)
It could be argued that initially that the rest of unit didn't know what happen to Blythe they assumed he'd died in '48. Initially the book quoted this. But later editions corrected this error.
But they never chose to do this to the series or the DVD release.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 21, 2022, 02:28:47 PM
He’s the one that went psychologically blind for a bit?    I see that that a couple of the guys remembered going to his funeral!  That’s worrying! Lol

Looks like a bad mistake, but I tend to like Stephen Ambrose to be fair.  One of my favourite reads is his D-Day book.   Recollections from a myriad of folk who were there, it’s a compelling read.   

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Captain Blood on January 21, 2022, 03:55:03 PM
Great job on the church. Another very nice building by TBM. As you say, wish their range was bigger. I'd certainly buy more of their black powder era buildings.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on January 21, 2022, 10:42:21 PM
Nice model and an interesting Then and Now photograph.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Foy Church
Post by: Digits on January 22, 2022, 09:19:24 AM
Great job on the church. Another very nice building by TBM. As you say, wish their range was bigger. I'd certainly buy more of their black powder era buildings.

Rumour on their Facebook page is they are thinking of adding to the Western European range.  Maybe they need a little more encouragement…..

Cheers guys
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Little house
Post by: Digits on January 22, 2022, 04:30:39 PM
So, tapping into a rare steak of mojo, I just painted another….small house with interesting roof.  Sadly, just one more to go….. :(

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Jamie is rendering a whole batch of laser cut buildings, adding stonework, timer, roof tiling etc and they are going to look the dogs…..so I’m tempted to have a go myself on maybe an industrial building and see what it looks like.  A few weeks off that one though.

Just added a small statute too.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Little house
Post by: CapnJim on January 22, 2022, 05:30:50 PM
Great work on those, but I really dig the statue...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Little house
Post by: vodkafan on January 22, 2022, 11:36:11 PM
Great work!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Little house
Post by: has.been on January 23, 2022, 05:04:42 PM
Quote
Great work on those, but I really dig the statue...

me too.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Little house
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 23, 2022, 05:37:49 PM
Your putting me to shame lol
I can't find the time or the mojo to make two strips of terrace houses and your churning out an entire hamlet.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Digits on January 24, 2022, 12:04:32 PM
Cheers guys.  The statue is also by TBM!


Ok, so what’s next…we’ll I do have one more building to paint before sourcing new ones, but that can wait a little bit.

Meanwhile, I have been slowly putting together a bunch on minis to represent the Panzer Lehr, seeing as most of my armour is marked accordingly.

A bit of an eclectic mix tbh……seeing as no one does enough (at least in metal) to do the whole platoon.   So I have a box of Artizan and Warlord Lehr, a box of Warlord Volksgrenadiers and a plastic warlord grenadier!

The Volksgrenadiers have a short tunic, though a different cut which won’t detract from them on the battlefield, besides, on a lot of them, the tunic is pretty well hidden.

On top that, as I’m a bit pedantic about not having duplicate heavy weapons / mg  teams, I am trying to get hold of a sprue of the newly released Wargames Atlantic plastic Lehr so I can build a couple of mg teams.    I’m not overly struck on WA miniatures, and I may need to add a little clutter to get what I want from them.

Not sure as yet what to do about support options, but Steve Barber does do a Lehr panzerschreck team and sniper!

Anyway, here is the first two sections based ready for painting.


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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 24, 2022, 02:31:53 PM
That looks like a really good start on a new platoon. Meanwhile, having just finished my 12 SS Pz Div, I will not be doing yet another German variant ..  I will not, I won't. ok, maybe I will...
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Digits on January 24, 2022, 06:49:09 PM
I know the feeling!

However, as the uniform is simple, I only need worry about helmet covers!  These will be quick compared to SS! (I hope!)

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: CapnJim on January 24, 2022, 07:59:40 PM
So far so good!  Looking forward to seeing them painted!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 24, 2022, 09:24:22 PM
I know the feeling!

However, as the uniform is simple, I only need worry about helmet covers!  These will be quick compared to SS! (I hope!)

It's more all the other bitty stuff, waterbottles, straps, capes etc that take all the time, you need to be more precise than with camo... but at least it isn't oakleaf I guess!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: David H on January 25, 2022, 10:47:54 AM
I'm not sure how I missed this thread but spent last night reading through it and catching up.
Quality work throughout!
I love your conversion work and look forward to seeing how you get on with the WA figures.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Digits on January 25, 2022, 11:37:39 AM
Thanks David.   Getting my hands on some would be a start! Lol

I was also looking at a sprue of warlord afrika korps last night….probably great for converting an mg team.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Digits on January 26, 2022, 12:47:38 PM
Too busy to start painting minis at the moment…but I did managed to give these Rubicon fences a quick lick of paint last night and add a little detailing.   I have left these off my customary plastic strips as I feel they will stand happily on their own on the table.

Useful….minor obstacle that affords no cover.  You get about five and half feet in the set.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Romark on January 26, 2022, 03:29:25 PM
They look great! :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Digits on January 26, 2022, 03:57:34 PM
I think it’s a great little kit…..I will probably get hold of their set of picket fencing next.

That should hopefully give me ENOUGH fencing I suspect (read hope)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Axebreaker on January 26, 2022, 06:22:26 PM
A fantastic thread you have here packed full of WWII goodness!! 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Panzer Lehr
Post by: Digits on January 26, 2022, 06:29:52 PM
Thank you, glad you approve!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: Digits on January 27, 2022, 01:03:17 PM
So, we’ve decided we need more gardens so that will be the focus of terrain building for a bit.  To kick off, a couple of scratched sheds and a modified kit wood store.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: David H on January 27, 2022, 02:15:06 PM
Excellent - its the little things that make the difference
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: has.been on January 27, 2022, 08:11:20 PM
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To kick off, a couple of scratched sheds

David, make them a LOT bigger & we can Wargame in them. ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: flatpack on January 28, 2022, 07:57:14 AM
Wargames shed, wargames shed....who said wargames shed ?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: Digits on January 28, 2022, 08:09:34 AM
We are not all as gifted as yourself my Lord Flatpack with your palatial and frankly amazing gaming barrack house!  I get green eyes every time I come over  :'(

However, I am in the middle (literally) of having a small office/conservatory adding to the house that will also serve as my gaming space.  Will only fit a 6 x 4 board, but it will be better than standing around in my kitchen!

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: has.been on January 28, 2022, 11:49:32 AM
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Will only fit a 6 x 4 board,

So...are you moving on to skirmish, or 15/15/6mm  ??? ??? ???

If you is, & you want rid of those nasty 28mm figures & scenery,
I could find room for them. I wouldn't even charge you. :D :D :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: Digits on January 28, 2022, 12:20:37 PM
Ha ha.  90% of our games are played on 6 x 4!   

I still just about have room in the garden to put up a double table too!

Anyway, with your collection on models, buildings etc…what the hell do you need mine for? Lol
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Operation Market Garden….sort of
Post by: has.been on January 28, 2022, 05:00:34 PM
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Anyway, with your collection on models, buildings etc…what the hell do you need mine for? Lol

The technical term is... GREED!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Digits on January 30, 2022, 06:54:01 PM
Hmmm!

So, we played the second battle of the Bazooka Town campaign yesterday.

This is the second map, and my lads were tasked with holding up the American advance.

The Yanks are advancing left to right.  The river is a major (but crossable to infantry) so the bridge is obviously a focal point.

This battle is a probe, with the Americans having to exit off my table edge.  Should be tricky no?

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I only get 4 points of support to his 10.  My only real option being a sniper and entrenchment for one team.

I got my arse handed me last time by a walked in mortar barrage.

Not a great start, I roll low for my starting morale, clearly there is a little fear in the air…

Jamie starts bringing elements on to the table.  A 60mm mortar team, a 30cal mg section that sets up a base of fire (overwatch), and a couple of sections of infantry.  Of course, he also brings on  another foo!

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I bring in the sniper (position hidden the way we play it) but he’s really pretty ineffective.

It’s a race for the all important first CoC dice which I loose.   This means Jamie can bring in his mortar barrage once more, and I’m powerless to stop it even though I get a dice.   I can use it to stop his barrage, but him already holding a dice means he can counter it 🥴

Effectively, in a repeat of the first map, he brings in the barrage then moves it to block off my deployment allowing him to cross the river unapposed……then run past my jump off point and exit the table…..all without me putting a figure on the table! 😩😢


I’m not doing well here……but really, these opening maps are a real race for the CoC dice to get an effective and lasting barrage.  Jamie had great dice, I had not so great!

So we decided to play it again for shits and giggles ( the outcome as far as the campaign was concerned already determined)……


Campaign tally…..0-2!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Digits on January 30, 2022, 08:37:58 PM
Deciding to replay the exact scenario, I was dismayed when once again, I rolled low for my morale!

Anyway the table.

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I had tried to get my jump off points a tad further back, but otherwise everything similar to the first game.

Jamie brought on the twin 30cal section pretty much in the same place, plus a senior officer, mortar, foo and sections, again on the road using the hedge for cover.

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The race for that important CoC dice was on, but this time, I started collecting the fives first!

Twin 30cal (tripods) dish out 20 shots, but Jamie decided to push them forward instaed of sitting back in their fire base to try and get them into close range (knowing my guns would not be at close range if he did so).   What this meant was they started bolting forward, thus he was not putting them into  overwatch, something that certainly makes you think twice about exposing yourself.   Realising this was my chance, I deployed a pair of sections into the damaged houses.

Jamie’s sections were however on overwatch and his foo had stated to contact the fire mission……but I had rolled three sixes and ended the turn deliberately without firing either of the two deployed sections.  All overwatch of course disappeared.

Retaining the initiative, I rolled again, bringing a senior leader on behind one house but within control of both sections, and the two sections brought their mg42s to bear on the advancing 30cal section.    With that amount of firepower, and the American section caught pretty much in the open, we traded phases but the end was pretty swift for the American 30 calls.   In fact the last team, with their junior leader was literally wiped out to a man forcing morale drop rolls for both lost section and loss of a junior leader.

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Jamie had by now also deployed his M4 which sat at the back pouring HE and machine gun fire into my right hand building and I started to loose a few men and gather a bit of shock.

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Deciding to join the section and enter the house so as to rally them a little, I had a wobble when fire caught my Senior leader but luckily he wasn’t too badly hit and carried on.

My sniper was having more success this game too and in what for him was a masterful shot, he was able to pick out the foo and kill him!  (Chance of officer hit 1or 2, then random hit allocated between him and three present officers!)

By now Jamie’s morale had sunk and he was operating with only a couple of command dice.

I decided that I may as well deploy my old faithful panzerschreck team, who vary rarely seem to miss (never leave home without one guys!) who deployed into the river banks to have a long range shot at the pesky tank.

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Sure as eggs….hit!

Two net hits ended up resulting in injured tank officer……bad things happen table….end of game!

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What a difference getting that first CoC dice makes when there is a forward observer about!

Great days gaming with a win a piece being a cool result.  Ok, I’m down in the campaign….but there is always the next map! Lol

Great table and host.


Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: PrivateBuzz on January 30, 2022, 10:04:28 PM
Great write up! Nice to re live the first game.  Not so sure about the second one!
 
I need to get my skates on with the buildings for the next map. Great little campaign.

Wonder when the wild card will be played?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Digits on January 30, 2022, 10:47:57 PM
Ah yes….I get to field TWO tiger IIs at some point……..have to make this count though…..

And I can confirm….Jamie is dressing a LOT of mdf buildings that will look great when done….looking forward to scrapping among them!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Shahbahraz on January 30, 2022, 10:51:55 PM
I must get some GIs painted...  😀 shame all the figs I have are wearing 43-44 kit or in greatcoats
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: MaleGriffin on February 01, 2022, 08:50:38 AM
Fantastic looking game! Thank you for the AAR!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: CapnJim on February 02, 2022, 05:18:55 PM
Great game(s)!  And report(s).  Well done!

I must get some GIs painted...  😀 shame all the figs I have are wearing 43-44 kit or in greatcoats

No shame there!  The '43-'44 kit works all the way through the end of the war.  The US Army never quite got everyone kitted out in the '44 field jacket and buckle boots by war's end....
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Shahbahraz on February 02, 2022, 08:04:48 PM
Great game(s)!  And report(s).  Well done!

No shame there!  The '43-'44 kit works all the way through the end of the war.  The US Army never quite got everyone kitted out in the '44 field jacket and buckle boots by war's end....

I know but mine are all Parsons jackets using the Perry plastics, and they just don't scream 44-45 to me.. 
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: vodkafan on February 03, 2022, 12:38:15 PM
Well played! You really seized your chances in the second game Digits.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: CapnJim on February 03, 2022, 09:40:32 PM
I know but mine are all Parsons jackets using the Perry plastics, and they just don't scream 44-45 to me.. 

Yep - I have several of the Perry plastic boys painted up.

Have you looked at the Empress GIs or the Artizan Designs late war guys?  I have several of the empress chaps painted up, and they are very enjoyable figures to paint up.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Digits on February 03, 2022, 10:10:17 PM
I’ve been looking at the Artizan ones myself…just worried I can’t match them up for support choices though.

Started working on some more bits to make the board looked lived in.   I need some grave yard areas to pop about the church and I need a range of gardens to pop behind houses.   Early days for both but you get the idea.   I need a few more tomb stones before I can texture the bases.

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We are both going to do a few bits of simple garden without walls too as we can just pop hedges or fences around them.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: CapnJim on February 03, 2022, 10:23:33 PM
Grave yard looks good so far.  Every church needs one!

I'd look at Empress for late war US guys.  They have a decent range, with some of the support options you'd need (MGs, engineers, mortars, AT gun, etc.).  They match up OK with Artizan, size-wise.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: has.been on February 04, 2022, 09:38:58 AM
Any truth to the story that the graves bear the names of
my officers who threw 1s on the wound chart?  ;)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Shahbahraz on February 04, 2022, 02:34:20 PM
Grave yard looks good so far.  Every church needs one!

I'd look at Empress for late war US guys.  They have a decent range, with some of the support options you'd need (MGs, engineers, mortars, AT gun, etc.).  They match up OK with Artizan, size-wise.

Do you have any idea of how many CoC platoons I have awaiting paint?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: CapnJim on February 04, 2022, 04:49:14 PM
No, but if you're like me, it's several.  And I have 2 more coming...I've decided to do 8th Atmy and DAK.  Eventually... :D
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Shahbahraz on February 04, 2022, 06:59:21 PM
No, but if you're like me, it's several.  And I have 2 more coming...I've decided to do 8th Atmy and DAK.  Eventually... :D

German, US and British Airborne, Winter Germans, USMC, Volksgrenadiers, Italians for Sicily, US in Greatcoats, US for Sicily, French Foreign Legion, Finns, Alpenkorps, plus another set of DAK to replace the existing ones I'm not happy with. And I can't help but think I may have forgotten some. Oh yes, Empress Late War British.

After those I am calling it done, apart perhaps from the BEF, and maybe Late War US, ok so Australians for the jungle, maybe Dutch 1940...  Norwegians?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Digits on February 04, 2022, 08:14:22 PM
lmpressive List!

Still to do on that front….based and primed Panzer Lehr, Falschirmjager, British Paras.  Also for future I have a DAK army.   I’m of a mind to do some Russians but I’m not of a mind to do much Russian scenery….saying that I’m listening to Barbarossa by Dimbleby at the moment so who knows.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: Shahbahraz on February 04, 2022, 08:18:49 PM
lmpressive List!

Still to do on that front….based and primed Panzer Lehr, Falschirmjager, British Paras.  Also for future I have a DAK army.   I’m of a mind to do some Russians but I’m not of a mind to do much Russian scenery….saying that I’m listening to Barbarossa by Dimbleby at the moment so who knows.

I've done the basic stuff..  Normandy Brits and Germans, SS, DAK & 8th Army, plus Malaya Japanese and British, Blitzkrieg 1940 Germans and French, and Soviets. No US so far.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Battle Reports
Post by: CapnJim on February 04, 2022, 08:40:52 PM
My "to do" list includes, finishing German Panzergrenadier and SS platoons, finishing a late war US platoon, and doing Japanese naval infantry, British mid- and late-war infantry, French and Phillipino partisan, Panzer Lehr German, DAK, and 8th Army platoons. 
I'll get to them all some day, I swear... 8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 08, 2022, 05:58:28 PM
Finished my modular graveyards.    Being able to vary the shape and size is useful, and I have deliberately left off any walling so I can vary the surround with walls / hedges / fences to suit the terrain and scenarios.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 08, 2022, 06:04:42 PM
Now that is a lovely idea.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Tommy20 on February 08, 2022, 06:28:13 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Romark on February 08, 2022, 07:15:29 PM
 8)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: has.been on February 08, 2022, 08:02:34 PM
Dare I say, 'Dead good' ? lol lol lol

I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: CapnJim on February 08, 2022, 09:23:00 PM
Very nice.  You done good, kid! :)
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: MaleGriffin on February 08, 2022, 10:35:37 PM
Awesome idea! I'm stealing it!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 09, 2022, 01:23:01 PM
Cheers guys, I’ve a mind to expand on it as it will also be useful for another project I started (but did little with).   At some point, I will scratch a lichgate to go with it as well as make a few more sections.  I’m making up one small section now in fact to fill a gap in order that it can be “squared off”.   

I do need to find more (simple) grave stones and a few sarcophagi (I like the inclusion of the one I had) having used up a pack and a half Renedra plus a few resin ones I had.  In fact for this infill piece I’m using a few bits of slate from the garden to represent crumbled stones….actually think they might just work!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: blacksoilbill on February 09, 2022, 01:29:41 PM
Very clever! And nicely executed too.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 09, 2022, 01:38:54 PM
Cheers fella.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Westbury on February 10, 2022, 10:42:01 AM
Liking these graveyards Digits, nice job.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Roo on February 12, 2022, 04:08:26 PM
That’s very cool indeed may I ask what you used for the pathways please chap…currently assembling a parish church so will shamelessly steal a few ideas if I may
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 13, 2022, 12:39:51 AM
Green stuff (though you could simply use poly filler…..flattened and rolled with a brick imprint roller.   I toyed with doing it with paving slabs but glad I went brick.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Roo on February 13, 2022, 07:58:52 AM
Cheers just found the images of w.I.p it’s simple and brilliant!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 13, 2022, 09:07:12 AM
No worries, simple is always best me thinks!

I’ve done enough for my ww2 needs here.   I will be doing a little more however in my 17th century horror thread

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130402.45

No I need some more firepower…..going to start putting paint to my 10.5cm gun next…
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Roo on February 15, 2022, 08:30:18 PM
Had a look at brick rollers…any recommendations please as the options are bewildering😬
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 15, 2022, 08:54:10 PM
I can’t really help with others….but I used the small (Dutch?) brick one from green stuff world.  A bit pricey but I like it.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Roo on February 15, 2022, 09:09:05 PM
Perfect thanks €12 not so bad and if it looks half as good as your work worth every cent
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Digits on February 15, 2022, 09:13:58 PM
Cheers bud, I’m sure your parish church will look very good, looking forward to seeing it!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Modular Graveyards
Post by: Roo on February 15, 2022, 10:48:11 PM
It may yet make an appearance on the Interwar board in a few weeks
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2022, 07:32:13 PM
We got to play the third map in the Bazooka Town campaign yesterday at Jamie’s.

I’m two nil down, so the stakes are high.   

Jamie has been working on dressing his mdf houses and the results are very slick indeed.  A real pleasure to sit down to a game when they look this good!

Anyway, map three, take and hold the church or force the opposition from the table.

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Rolling for starting morale, I roll a pretty pathetic “one” and to cap it off, Jamie rolls a six to determine how many pre moves he gets in the patrol phase, resulting in four extra moves.  Not a great start!


The net result being my jump off points are all crowded into the church corner of the table…not ideal tbh.

Jamie then starts deploying a fire base at the top of th3 table, with a mortar team and a pair of tripod .30 cal MMG’s with jnr leader.    He also then deploys a Sherman tank sitting in an overwatch position at the head of the road. 

In response, I only manage to deploy a sniper who takes up position in a house by the bridge.


He then gets a section, .50 cal and senior leader deployed midway down the left hand edge as you see the table……aggressively pushing on the church…..safe in the knowledge his pre-game barrage will stop me effectively deploying enough to blunt him.


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Finally, I manage to deploy my first …….tank!

Yes, I had decided upon seeing the open firing channels running the length of the road and following the course of the river, to play my wild card!

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I think this took Jamie a little by surprise….the congested cluster of buildings maybe not being ideal for tanks, with the next map really being the more open.  As such he hadn’t taken much at all to deal with the massive armour values that a pair of Tiger Twos carry!

I really need a win here to give myself a fighting chance of denying him the campaign, so I had decided to church a spanner into the works…..hopefully.

Anyway, announcing its arrival, the Tiger with one shot, knocks out the Sherman…..first blood and a point off the American morale.

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2022, 07:48:12 PM
After destroying the Sherman, the tiger then advanced left to start trying to inflict casualties on the group deploying down the left, killing three members of the .50 cal team.

In response, Jamie’s senior leader leader pushes forward with his section and a flame throwing engineering team which I had previously failed to recognise.   There was a chance the flamethrower could cause the crew to rout…..so the Tiger backed up sligh5ly then killed the engineers and slightly wounded the senior leader causing him to move his troops into cover.

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Then….Jamie’s luck appeared to change!   He rolled a double six no fewwer than FOUR times, and he ran straight across the bridge and entrée the church!

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Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: Digits on March 27, 2022, 08:02:35 PM
The turn ends and I’m now at liberty to freely bring on another unit.

My senior leader, sat in his own Tiger, moves onto the table.   The stow tigers then manoeuvre to positions with a clear line of sight to the church, then unleash a little HE.

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The first tank, rolls three sixes, making the roof a little unstable and killing a pair of grunts.    Realising I really needed four sixes to collapse the roof, I kissed the dice and called on the gods of luck and then rolled four sixes for the command tank!!


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The roof falls in on the hapless senior officer and his section.   Those that escape the falling rubble exit to the front door.   However, before Jamie could move them into cover, I played my CoC dice to interrupt him, and open fire.    I wounded and dropped the junior section leader and killed enough that they broke and ran, dropping their morale to nothing and handing me the map!

2-1!   I’m back….for now!


After totting up the dead, and calculating replacements, Jamie is down one man for the rematch!

We Hager to play amoung these wonderful buildings once more, but now, I won’t have the benefit of my pussy cats!

I still need to win two battle to win the campaign…but with Jamie’s guys now having the weight of numbers….it’s going to get tough. 

He has to win all five tables in seven rounds, I need to win a total of three times to deny him.   we shall see what happens!

Cheers for the game and the coffee!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: MaleGriffin on March 28, 2022, 01:05:47 AM
WOW!  :o

Absolutely gorgeous game! Thank you for the excellent pics!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: has.been on March 28, 2022, 06:34:47 AM
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WOW!  :o

Absolutely gorgeous game! Thank you for the excellent pics!

Most certainly agree with that. Having seen Jamie's work 'in the flesh' I can
even say the the pictures still don't do the buildings justice.

By the way I believe he is considering parting with his Wild West buildings,
(also gorgeous). If anyone has a serious interest I recommend you contact him.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: vodkafan on March 28, 2022, 08:23:37 AM
Bit of a flash of the old aggressive Blitzkrieg tactics there old chap. That was a golden opportunity with the Sherman stuck out there in the open at the end of the road. I bet Jamie was well surprised!
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: Digits on March 28, 2022, 10:33:04 AM
Unfortunately, the big cats have now been called away for other duties.

Going to get tough now….I worry that the last games in this particular campaign will be a race for the all important CoC dice to cancel the inevitable mortar barrage.   Still ……I shall make my offerings to the Dice Gods and see what happens….
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 28, 2022, 12:43:56 PM
Lovely looking game. Nice work.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - Bazooka Town…..table 3
Post by: TacticalPainter on March 29, 2022, 03:24:43 AM
Enjoyed following this and a great looking set of games. I have two Tiger II on the workbench and this PSC is very much on my radar.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: Digits on April 16, 2022, 02:17:51 PM
I look forward to seeing your take on it fella.

First thing I’ve painted in weeks…been too busy with real life.   

3.7cm Flak Support

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/3C72D230-E524-4530-998A-149EC58BACBD.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b76/DigitsDavid/2469098C-30C4-4A67-94BC-14C99A3E529D.jpeg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds)

Did get a game in yesterday too…..more on that later.

Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: has.been on April 16, 2022, 04:34:24 PM
I like the wear & tear on that David.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: vodkafan on April 16, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
Very nice. 1st Corps?
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: Digits on April 16, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
Warlord, cheers.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: flatpack on April 17, 2022, 07:19:42 AM
That could keep down the heads of enemy infantry.
Very heavy suppressive fire.
Title: Re: CoC - Western Front - 3.7cm Flak
Post by: CapnJim on April 17, 2022, 07:36:44 PM
Lovely little 3.7cm you did up there.  Well done!