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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Cubs on October 03, 2020, 05:18:13 PM
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And with that pun so weak you're not sure if it is one or not, I admit my weakness in caving to the general WOTR trend.
I've had a bunch of plastic Perry's Archers sat in a box on my shelf for ages. They were already assembled by the previous and I bought them cheap from him years back and ... well, you know. Finally they now have some paint and will hopefully just be the first in my mighty force of Welsh bow and billmen in the service of Rhys Ap Thomas, arch opportunist, taffy trickster and if rumours are to be believed, killer of kings. Bow strings are my old method of using the plastic bristle from a cheap dustpan and brush, then splitting it down the middle (they're fibrous and pull apart easily). They're easy to cut, easy to glue and they naturally want to sit in a straight line unlike wire or cotton.
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This dude is some low grade poacher or other, rather annoyed at being pressed into service and lacking even a helmet. Tsk. Note the knobbly 'Welsh' bow, roughly cut to get the job done, not to look pretty.
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This grizzled veteran, by contrast, is well tooled up with the accoutrements of a life spent soldiering. How much was bought, provided by his employer or looted from the slain is anyone's guess. Note painted (but chipped) bow, to protect it from the rigours of campaigning. Probably could do with another coat, Dai.
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The helm isn't overly fashionable, but it does the job, as does his leather jack. Looks like he had a muddy walk to the battlefield.
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This chap is a professional retainer, with helm, mail shirt and plate breastplate. His bow still gleams with its fresh coat of oil.
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Wow! They are seriously good, looking forward to seeing more! :)
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Great painting work, really nice figures!
I am now painting some Claymore Castings French forces for this same ruleset. I am another "victim" of the Never Mind...
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Stunning 8)
Love the grit and grime.
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Gorgeous! The grimey, subdued palette gives them a very different feel to other WOTR figures we see, and I love it. A bit like Ken Branagh's Henry V compared to Larry Olivier's.
And do me a favour and never stop with the word-play, Paul, however much people complain. It's not as if it's a punishable offence. :)
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Fantastic... I love the thought that has gone into them
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Brilliant brushwork Cubs!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Not only sublime brushwork really gnarly weather worn look to them. Perfect 8)
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Really love the dark look of these chaps :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
And the bow string is :o :o :o
How do you tidy up the ends, green stuff?
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Thanks guys, I'm glad you're liking them.
And the bow string is :o :o :o
How do you tidy up the ends, green stuff?
Just paint! I use a sharp knife to cut it smooth against the bow (when the glue is dry) and then the knot and the little loops going into the nocks are just painted on. Effective innit?
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And do me a favour and never stop with the word-play, Paul, however much people complain. It's not as if it's a punishable offence. :)
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Gees they are incredible😳
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Top flight work!
And do me a favour and never stop with the word-play, Paul, however much people complain. It's not as if it's a punishable offence. :)
When I lived in a with a bunch of housemates, we had had to put quarters in a jar for puns.
It was a syntax sin tax.
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I love that painting style, magnificent work :-*
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Really love the dark look of these chaps :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
+1
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These are amazing! I love how much character you've given each of them!
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Very nicely done. Only a hundred or two to go :D
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I must say these look absolutely fantastic. Love how you have painted these.
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These are really impressive, I love the colours you've chosen. I'm tempted into this period now!
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They look great, think I will just throw mine in the bin.
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Wow! Those muted, moody colours are superb.
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It's not as if it's a punishable offence. :)
Seconded. And anyone who says otherwise is talking billhooks.
These figures are incredible. I love the face on the poacher chap particularly. I don't want to gush too much, but I could not help but think that you have made a better job of these than Rembrandt would have done (although I would have been interested in seeing his attempts at Perry's plastics too).
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Thanks guys, I do love to just slap muck and mud onto my models. It's really not too tricky - just literally brown and dark washes for the most part. I know it's possibly one of the most over-said things in the hobby, but the Perry plastics are just superb. They fit together in a way that makes them look like real people standing in real poses and, of course, the realism in the faces and accuracy of accoutrements is unmatched. The crispness and depth of the sculpt is such that if you're in a hurry, you could do a lot worse than just block paint them and then give them a couple of washes, I'm sure.
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I know it's possibly one of the most over-said things in the hobby, but the Perry plastics are just superb. They fit together in a way that makes them look like real people standing in real poses and, of course, the realism in the faces and accuracy of accoutrements is unmatched.
+1 to all that.
I actually think the original WOTR set, which was one of their first plastic sets, is still amongst the best they’ve produced.
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Thanks guys, I do love to just slap muck and muck onto my models. It's really not too tricky - just literally brown and dark washes for the most part. I know it's possibly one of the most over-said things in the hobby, but the Perry plastics are just superb. They fit together in a way that makes them look like real people standing in real poses and, of course, the realism in the faces and accuracy of accoutrements is unmatched. The crispness and depth of the sculpt is such that if you're in a hurry, you could do a lot worse than just block paint them and then give them a couple of washes, I'm sure.
Amen to that. They are absolutely superb. I really had my doubts when they produced the first ACW set.... I honestly didn't think it was going to catch on in the historical market. The the quality of their plastic products just keep on getting better and better.... to the point where they easily compete with their metals...
I'm pleased to say the initial negativity on my part was 100% incorrect!
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Something that blew my mind was when they brought out the British Napoleonic Infantry and the firing pose right arm overlapped the shoulder on the torso, hiding the end of the epaulette, so the epaulette on the arm was twisted round, enabling a real aiming pose. So many other models - not just multi-part plastics either - have their firers stood stiffly with the musket awkwardly poked forward. It's that sort of design that made me realise how much thought they put into everything they do.
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Something that blew my mind was when they brought out the British Napoleonic Infantry and the firing pose right arm overlapped the shoulder on the torso, hiding the end of the epaulette, so the epaulette on the arm was twisted round, enabling a real aiming pose. So many other models - not just multi-part plastics either - have their firers stood stiffly with the musket awkwardly poked forward. It's that sort of design that made me realise how much thought they put into everything they do.
Again 100%. Their ability to produce a really natural pose without losing any of the dynamism we come to expect from 'modern' miniatures is unbeatable.
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And do me a favour and never stop with the word-play, Paul, however much people complain. It's not as if it's a punishable offence. :)
I agree. Provided it is accompanied by such nice paintjobs, you may do so with impunity*, Paul.
*: Yes, I know, but we're reading it, anyway.
Late medievals is a bit of a torn-between topic for me. Always find myself drawn to it, but cannot really work up the enthusiasm for paint up larger numbers of figures for it with all the necessary research and the fact that the combination of heraldy for one medieval period would reduce my enjoyment for others if they do not fit both. But I really like this gritty take on it, even if I'd prefer a shiny, brightly-coloured one when painting myself.
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Wow! they are simply stunning! I thought that I had finished my army but you are making me look again. I love the battle worn effects and bow strings....
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Stunning!
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Love to see your 'down and dirty' take on these chaps.
Nothing like a bit of filth to get my attention.
:D
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Bow strings are my old method of using the plastic bristle from a cheap dustpan and brush, then splitting it down the middle (they're fibrous and pull apart easily). They're easy to cut, easy to glue and they naturally want to sit in a straight line unlike wire or cotton.
Genius 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
I've got to give that a go!!
Looking forward to seeing more... them more again.... :D
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:-* Excellent crappy painting ;)
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While I loved the Perry plastics already, I'm still surprised by how amazing you make them look; excellent work as always.
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Thanks guys. The photos came out looking all shiny, probably because it was evening and I used a spotlight to throw a bit more light on. Ah well. Next set of 4 being prepped now!
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A mere 2 years after my last batch, here's another swift entry to boost the mighty warband of Rhys ap Thomas. Now there are 8 archers to terrify their enemies! At some point I'm planning to add a decent amount of billmen and spearmen, but not yet. The archers are in slightly odd leg positions because I bought them off eBay (dirt cheap) ready-assembled, but it does mean there are some interesting poses I wouldn't have thought of.
Sorry for the oddly fuzzy photos, I'm having trouble uploading photos from my hosting site - it keeps shrinking them down to tiny size, which I then have to increase manually in the code and lose focus. Any ideas?
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I've also got some properly matt varnish (Windsor and Newton) so the mins aren't shiny now.
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They look grand 8)
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top brushwork Cubs :-*
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They still painted up very well.
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Okay, I've wangled a real ball-ache way round it, but I am at least getting decent sized pics now (it's definitely the hosting site being a pain, not LAF).
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Lovely choice of colours!
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Superb job there. Looking forward to see more 8)
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Damn those are annoyingly good the bowstrings in particular are impressive.
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Lovely job Cubs. Wonderfully grimy, yet still pretty.
Working on a few more myself right now as it happens. They truly are the gift that keeps on giving :)
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The way Cubs makes them look so grimy impresses me the most. When I drool over the piccys, I fancy I can smell the bad breath and BO!
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Superb! They are incredibly life like. Astonishingly subtle shading on the faces and a sublime pallet. Very inspiring
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Lovely figures! Great basing! Very nice work on the bowstrings! Love the different bow paint jobs!
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Great stuff! :-* :-* :-*
I really like your painting style, it gives a ton of character to your minis.
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Thanks guys, it's criminal how slow I am at painting my own stuff, I've always got commissions to be getting on with, but these guys are fairly easy to batch paint. I'm in the process of re-potting all my paints at the moment (sieving the scabs and crusts out to save the runny stuff) and topping up the homemade colour collection pots (most are 4-stages - base, 2 midtones and a highlight) which saves me money, but takes a loooong time. As I was using a colour on these guys (Euro Flesh, Rebel Grey, Olive Drab, etc..) I was re-potting each colour batch so it took much longer than usual to get them finished. I do like the dull tones and I've been painting a lot of bright colours on vintage Citadel Slann lately, so it was a welcome change of pace.
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Love your palette and the weathering. They really do look as though they've slogged through the English countryside.
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Love your palette and the weathering. They really do look as though they've slogged through the English countryside.
I meant to say earlier, I love your masterful sfumato painting style Cubs. This might sound like quite a high brow question but was Leonardo da Vinci's "sfumato" (light-dark/vanished or evaporated) an influence?
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Holy crap! I have absolutely no idea what's happening ... am I having a stroke? I wouldn't dare say sfumato, especially if I had been eating biscuits. No, no influences that I know of (but then if it was subconscious, I wouldn't know), other than just trying to colour stuff in nice. When I'm at my desk I just look at how the light is hitting the model and try to exaggerate that with the paint, concentrating on the face or anything else that I think the viewer would want to focus on.
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Holy crap! I have absolutely no idea what's happening ... am I having a stroke?
lol lol
I wouldn't dare say sfumato, especially if I had been eating biscuits. No, no influences that I know of (but then if it was subconscious, I wouldn't know), other than just trying to colour stuff in nice. When I'm at my desk I just look at how the light is hitting the model and try to exaggerate that with the paint, concentrating on the face or anything else that I think the viewer would want to focus on.
Take a look at Leonardo da Vinci's paintings and you will see what I mean. Your painting has a great deal of realistic depth which is effectively what my comparison was about :)
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Henceforth, he shall be named Leonardo Cubbin lol
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Leonardo di Cublio!
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Henceforth, he shall be named Leonardo Cubbin lol
Leonardo di Cublio!
An honourable sobriquet lol
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I dont know how I didnt saw these earlier. They are brilliantly moody.