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Title: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on October 29, 2020, 10:37:37 AM
Something for the early 20th century Colonial fans.

 A British 4.52 howitzer including its limber and ammunition limber and of course crew in colonial uniforms with Wolseley pith helmets.

Something to strike fear into any enemy. Perfect for keeping the Afghan hoards at bay.


https://www.empressminiatures.com/jazz-age-imperialism-14-c.asp



Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: Arthur on October 29, 2020, 10:00:17 PM
And quite impressive the lot looks too...

Incidentally, do you have an ETA for the recently previewed Jazz Age/WW1 British infantry in Wolseley helmets ?
Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on October 30, 2020, 08:28:19 AM
Just waiting for more stock to arrive so later next week they should make an appearance.

Not sure that this is the correct room to post them though. Although this is the Colonial Adventures room it may be better elsewhere. ;)
Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: Arthur on October 30, 2020, 11:06:54 PM
They'd be equally at home in the WW1 and Interwar forums but since the miniatures fit in all three I very much doubt the mods will begrudge you for announcing the new releases here.   
Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: commissarmoody on October 31, 2020, 12:00:28 AM
And a lovely artillery peace it is  :D
Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: Plynkes on October 31, 2020, 11:27:52 AM
They'd be equally at home in the WW1 and Interwar forums but since the miniatures fit in all three I very much doubt the mods will begrudge you for announcing the new releases here.

Of course they won't. Those three boards have quite a bi of crossover, so you just have to pick whichever one you think is best when something could go in any of them.

Which is of course this one. :)
Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 02, 2020, 08:48:42 AM
Of course they won't. Those three boards have quite a bi of crossover, so you just have to pick whichever one you think is best when something could go in any of them.

Which is of course this one. :)

In which case, and as you have always looked after Empress Miniatures nicely we will stay here.   :-*

Some more releases on here should pop up this week  ;)
Title: Re: Empress release British 4.5" Howitzer, limbers, and crew for Colonial operation
Post by: commissarmoody on November 02, 2020, 09:00:07 AM
In which case, and as you have always looked after Empress Miniatures nicely we will stay here.   :-*

Some more releases on here should pop up this week  ;)
Looking forward to them.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 19, 2020, 10:05:11 AM
Todays release is seven packs of British infantry for our Jazz Age Imperialism  range. So if you are fighting on the NWF, or in Africa in WW1, or Mesopotamia or .............well lots of places really, these guys will work for you. Note they have all been spoken to sternly so that they will not run away in a game.

The packs cover, command, medic, Vickers team, Lewis teams and riflemen, across 27 figures.

https://www.empressminiatures.com/jazz-age-imperialism-14...

Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: JBaumal on November 19, 2020, 01:31:45 PM
Beautiful figs, I will definitely have to raise a unit of these chaps.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: NickNascati on November 19, 2020, 03:18:05 PM
I’d love to see comparison shots of these along with the figures from Brigade Games Great War in Africa, and Copplestone’s Middle East British.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: commissarmoody on November 20, 2020, 09:31:57 AM
Great looking set of fellows.  :D
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Plynkes on November 20, 2020, 11:24:58 AM
Many years ago I did some (easy but still slightly tedious) conversions because I wanted some Brits in Wolseley helmets but not in shorts and shirtsleeves to portray my local regiment during their time in the Dardanelles. Since then Woodbine brought out some and now Empress. I knew I should have just waited.  :)



Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Marine0846 on November 21, 2020, 04:16:49 AM
Love the new guys.
Christmas present to me? lol
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: M Blakey on November 21, 2020, 09:33:54 AM
I was going to put these on my Christmas list but went ahead and bought them lol zero self control! Keep em coming Empress!
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on November 21, 2020, 06:16:35 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 23, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
Thanks Guys.

Glad you like them. Cavalry, artillery, and Indian troops on the way for early next year. 
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: commissarmoody on November 23, 2020, 02:11:19 PM
Excellent.... I'll be that guy. Do you plan on makeing African troops as well?
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 23, 2020, 03:54:38 PM
Yes the Jazz Age range will drift into WW1 Africa at some point and have African, German etc.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: malto cortese on November 23, 2020, 04:15:48 PM
Yes the Jazz Age range will drift into WW1 Africa at some point and have African, German etc.

The Senussi! Don't forget the Senussi - nobody makes good senussi!
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Plynkes on November 23, 2020, 04:29:10 PM
You mean somebody does make some bad ones? i've never seen any at all, good or bad. If there are some out there could you point me in their direction?


I hate being pedantic (ha, no I don't, you know that!), but if the Jazz Age range wanders into WW1 is it misnamed? Do people include WW1 in the term "Jazz Age?" I wouldn't actually know, I can't stand Jazz and know very little about it.  :)
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 24, 2020, 08:18:24 AM
The Senussi! Don't forget the Senussi - nobody makes good senussi!

Isn't that a washing machine? lol
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 24, 2020, 08:21:33 AM
You mean somebody does make some bad ones? i've never seen any at all, good or bad. If there are some out there could you point me in their direction?


I hate being pedantic (ha, no I don't, you know that!), but if the Jazz Age range wanders into WW1 is it misnamed? Do people include WW1 in the term "Jazz Age?" I wouldn't actually know, I can't stand Jazz and know very little about it.  :)

Nope as the range was designed to cover Colonial conflicts WW1 to WW2. Added to the fact that Empress Miniatures created the term (well a customer suggested it actually) we can choose whatever we want to put in it.................so stop being pedantic  ;)
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Elk101 on November 24, 2020, 09:06:40 AM
Plynkes, I think it was another term used to refer to the Roaring Twenties but I'm not sure how much it was used outside of America at the time? I remember looking it up years ago as I thought it was an intriguing term for a period.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Malamute on November 24, 2020, 09:12:34 AM
Plynkes, I think it was another term used to refer to the Roaring Twenties but I'm not sure how much it was used outside of America at the time? I remember looking it up years ago as I thought it was an intriguing term for a period.

Attributed to F Scott Fitzgerald and the 1920s as Elk101 says.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Dr DeAth on November 24, 2020, 09:14:09 AM
Plynkes, I think it was another term used to refer to the Roaring Twenties but I'm not sure how much it was used outside of America at the time? I remember looking it up years ago as I thought it was an intriguing term for a period.

You are indeed correct, at least according to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_Age (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_Age)

"The Jazz Age was a period in the 1920s and 1930s in which jazz music and dance styles rapidly gained nationwide popularity in the United States."

It also looks like American author F. Scott Fitzgerald is widely credited with coining the term, first using it in his 1922 short story collection titled Tales of the Jazz Age, not the Empress Miniatures customer  lol

Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Plynkes on November 24, 2020, 09:36:11 AM
Well, we'll let them off, as the figures are so nice. Would be insane to turn one's nose up at a range because of minor quibbles about the name. :)


I wonder if those Zanussi bods still make washing machines out there in the Libyan desert? The adverts were all over the telly in the 80s. These days not so much. The whole point of the 1917 campaign against them was to secure a good supply of washing machines for the army in Palestine. Allenby's troops got through a LOT of laundry. And how do you think T.E. Lawrence kept his robes that dazzling white? The Appliance of Science, that's how.






(Sorry.)
Edited for spelling mistakes.


Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 24, 2020, 10:21:08 AM
My turn to be pedantic. Jazz Age was indeed coined by numerous others

but not Jazz Age Imperialism as far as I have ever seen.

However would be interested if you can put those three words together?
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Elk101 on November 24, 2020, 12:18:03 PM
Yes, Jazz Age Imperialism isn't something I've seen either. Plynkes seemed to be asking about the "Jazz Age" in general though, hence my reply.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 24, 2020, 12:37:05 PM
Yes, Jazz Age Imperialism isn't something I've seen either. Plynkes seemed to be asking about the "Jazz Age" in general though, hence my reply.

Cheers  ;)
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: malto cortese on November 24, 2020, 01:34:02 PM
You mean somebody does make some bad ones? i've never seen any at all, good or bad. If there are some out there could you point me in their direction?


you are right - and I am syntactically wrong! What I meant is that all that is available are generic North Africans/Arabs and Woodbine's WWI Arabs in Ottoman service which can be somewhat modified as Muhafizia.. but nobody makes specific Senussi troops.. so here is your chance folks..
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: malto cortese on November 24, 2020, 01:35:03 PM
Isn't that a washing machine? lol

come to think of it nobody makes washing machines in 28 mm, either..
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: ecwcaptain on November 24, 2020, 01:37:15 PM
Excellent, Paul. Keep this range going!
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 24, 2020, 01:47:39 PM
Excellent, Paul. Keep this range going!

Cheers  :-*
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Arthur on November 24, 2020, 09:45:49 PM
I’d love to see comparison shots of these along with the figures from Brigade Games Great War in Africa, and Copplestone’s Middle East British.

My Empress British infantry dispatched today so I should be able to provide that when they arrive next week or thereabouts.

Without having the miniatures in hand yet, I believe it is reasonably safe to say that the Empress range will fall in-between BG and Copplestone Castings. Being 32/33mm rather than 28, the latter will tower the other two ranges, being much taller, chunkier and toting massive (and slightly cartoonish) weapons. Looking at Paul Hicks' current work, I suspect the Empress figures will be either the same height as the Brigade Games or a bit taller, but slimmer and more realistically proportioned. Rifles and bayonets (especially the latter) will most likely be more in scale than with the BG miniatures.   
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Galloping Major on November 25, 2020, 08:15:55 AM
come to think of it nobody makes washing machines in 28 mm, either..

 lol

A very handsome range  :)
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 25, 2020, 09:28:17 AM
lol

A very handsome range  :)

Cheers mate  ;)
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: has.been on November 25, 2020, 09:39:32 AM
Quote
I hate being pedantic (ha, no I don't, you know that!), but if the Jazz Age range wanders into WW1 is it misnamed? Do people include WW1 in the term "Jazz Age?" I wouldn't actually know, I can't stand Jazz and know very little about it.  :)

Another hater of Jazz & pedantic to boot! What a fine fellow.
Still I look forward to it 'Wandering into WW1' especially as it was
Mr Eaglestone who recommended I get the book 'Tip & Run' (WW1
in East Africa).  For the painting of giraffes & zebra alone I hate him. 
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 25, 2020, 11:09:58 AM
It seems on here you are not alone  lol lol lol lol lol



 
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Sparrow on November 25, 2020, 08:19:25 PM
Another hater of Jazz

Anyone who hates jazz clearly has no soul! Whether it is Louis Armstrong, Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, Dizzie Gillespie, Miles Davis or even Kenny Ball it is a most wondrous form of music!  :D
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Plynkes on November 25, 2020, 09:06:22 PM
Well I feel the same way about Buck Owens, but I try not to judge people too harshly just because they don't like the same things I do. :)

Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: has.been on November 25, 2020, 09:26:54 PM
It would in deed be a dull world, if we all liked the same things.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Hammers on November 26, 2020, 07:42:06 AM
(https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=127846.0;attach=135483;image)

Good  Lawd...!

"Jingo bells, jingo bells! Jingo all the way!
Oh, what fun it is to run
with a six horse mountain gun!"

Sorry, the spirit of the season has me in its mittened grip.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 26, 2020, 07:56:24 AM
(https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=127846.0;attach=135483;image)

Good  Lawd...!

"Jingo bells, jingo bells! Jingo all the way!
Oh, what fun it is to run
with a six horse mountain gun!"

Sorry, the spirit of the season has me in its mittened grip.

 lol lol
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Arthur on December 05, 2020, 03:21:06 PM
A partially unrelated question for Paul (as it concerns IDM) : will the GAPS codes listed as "newly released" on the Iron Duke website but not present in the Empress shop yet be released in the next few days or will they wait until January to see the light of day ? The ones I have in mind are the Scinde campaign additions - Sir Charles Napier and staff, British standard bearers and officer, EIC irregular horse, and so on.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on December 07, 2020, 06:49:51 PM
Great stuff! Thanks to a post on Legatus Hedlius' blog, I became aware of the newer, non-Scots British. I think that they would be a much better option for representing Tibetan regulars of the early 1930s than my original idea of puttying trouser knees onto Crusader figures! Might a 10lb BL mountain gun be forthcoming...?
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on December 08, 2020, 11:16:20 AM
A partially unrelated question for Paul (as it concerns IDM) : will the GAPS codes listed as "newly released" on the Iron Duke website but not present in the Empress shop yet be released in the next few days or will they wait until January to see the light of day ? The ones I have in mind are the Scinde campaign additions - Sir Charles Napier and staff, British standard bearers and officer, EIC irregular horse, and so on.

They are all at the moulders and will be released in early January for the start of a New Year.  :)
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on December 08, 2020, 11:20:20 AM
Great stuff! Thanks to a post on Legatus Hedlius' blog, I became aware of the newer, non-Scots British. I think that they would be a much better option for representing Tibetan regulars of the early 1930s than my original idea of puttying trouser knees onto Crusader figures! Might a 10lb BL mountain gun be forthcoming...?

Currently no plans to however I would never say no at this point. January should see both the 13pdr and 18pdr plus limbers being released.   
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Arthur on December 09, 2020, 12:28:45 AM
They are all at the moulders and will be released in early January for the start of a New Year.  :)

Cheers Paul. Pre-brexit order just placed without them then.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on December 09, 2020, 08:29:23 AM
Cheers Arthur.

Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Arthur on December 09, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
And since I promised comparison pics a couple of weeks ago, here they are with officers first, Lewis teams second and riflemen last (Copplestone left, Empress center, Brigade Games right) :

Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Hammers on December 09, 2020, 12:06:43 PM
Yes, the Copplestone versions are  well known for being very well fed.
Title: Re: Empress release British Jazz Age Imperialism Infantry.
Post by: Arthur on December 09, 2020, 07:57:15 PM
I am no great photographer so my pics make the Brigade Games miniatures seem a tad larger than they actually are. They are only slightly taller than the Empress figures in the flesh, although they are much chunkier with bigger heads and Wolseley helmets, thick lower legs (the puttees are somewhat overdone) and oversized weapons - the bayonets in particular. As I wrote a couple of pages ago, the Copplestone Tommies are giants on steroids toting Lee-Enfield bazookas.

Warts and all, I'm still fond of my old BG figures and will keep those I have, but the new Empress offerings beat the other ranges hands down : they're crisper, more refined, far more correct anatomically and their weapons are a lot more proportional to boot.