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Title: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on November 22, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
Hello everyone,

just wanted to post my Burgundian army


i also made some videos in which the details of the minis are more visibl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWEQtRWE0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XplxZOACtqo

Hope you like them :)
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Atheling on November 22, 2020, 04:06:44 PM
Zoiks! They look excellent  :-*

A really impressive sight to behold en masse  8)
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Tonhel on November 22, 2020, 04:19:48 PM
Impressive!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on November 22, 2020, 04:47:13 PM
Thank you guys, really appreciate it.
was hard work to finish. my first army and minis i painted aswell
heres some more :)

vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09dM8EveUMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y1xxF_2K3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TfUDl48zfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1B1eicpWO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PvHzlbUwko&t
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Patrice on November 22, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
Truly superb!  :o :-*

It's funny the subject of medieval Burgundians has never been very popular in France...  :? lol

(https://www.laposte.fr/var/laposte/storage/images/toutsurletimbre/connaissance-du-timbre/dicotimbre/timbres/louis-xi-et-charles-le-temeraire-1616/1207378-1-fre-FR/louis-xi-et-charles-le-temeraire-1616.jpg)

...I blame some traditional French historians, who for long did not want to advertise it (for political reasons) ...and also some old movies where Charles the Bold always was the bad guy (although Louis XI was not really depicted as a good guy, they couldn't do that, but at least he was the king)...  lol  lol

(http://php88.free.fr/bdff/film/2005/0018/06/Jean%20Louis%20Barrault%20et%20Roger%20Hanin.jpg)
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: AndyC on November 22, 2020, 05:36:24 PM
"Very pretty...but can they fight?" (to quote Donald Sutherland in The Dirty Dozen).

Great work!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: HappyChappy439 on November 22, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
 :o That's a really impressive force, excellent work!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on November 22, 2020, 06:44:07 PM
Truly superb!  :o :-*

It's funny the subject of medieval Burgundians has never been very popular in France...  :? lol

(https://www.laposte.fr/var/laposte/storage/images/toutsurletimbre/connaissance-du-timbre/dicotimbre/timbres/louis-xi-et-charles-le-temeraire-1616/1207378-1-fre-FR/louis-xi-et-charles-le-temeraire-1616.jpg)

...I blame some traditional French historians, who for long did not want to advertise it (for political reasons) ...and also some old movies where Charles the Bold always was the bad guy (although Louis XI was not really depicted as a good guy, they couldn't do that, but at least he was the king)...  lol  lol

(http://php88.free.fr/bdff/film/2005/0018/06/Jean%20Louis%20Barrault%20et%20Roger%20Hanin.jpg)

Thank you :)
yeah i am german :P
i watched on youtube a documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d_V1UnvPBE in which was explained that berne pushed charles the bold and the eidgenossen with their agressive behavior.. never knew that.

but you are right it is really a intresting time, if all the lietrature of it wouldn be so expensive...

"Very pretty...but can they fight?" (to quote Donald Sutherland in The Dirty Dozen).

Great work!

No, but run :P

:o That's a really impressive force, excellent work!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Captain Blood on November 22, 2020, 06:45:03 PM
Bloody hell  :o :o :o :-*
That is quite a collection!
Some lovely creative use of parts in the way you’ve put some of those figures together too. Well done  :)
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on November 22, 2020, 06:50:00 PM
Bloody hell  :o :o :o :-*
That is quite a collection!
Some lovely creative use of parts in the way you’ve put some of those figures together too. Well done  :)

Thank you very much Captain Blood! much appreciated. your army was defenatly a big inspiration for it!
i am working on a 2nd batch with infantry artillery and a big cavaraly wing in which many parts found inspiration of your work aswell


Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Ray Rivers on November 22, 2020, 06:51:33 PM
Impressive!  :-*
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Winston on November 22, 2020, 07:57:56 PM
Fantastic stuff! Love the way they are ranked together. And great variation. Well worth the effort they must have taken.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: skip on November 22, 2020, 08:10:03 PM
Wonderful looking army, i love large units, just gives a much better effect

Brian
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Erik on November 22, 2020, 08:19:00 PM
you are aware that your pikeunit is 120 man strong :o :o :o

People usually post units as they go along!!!

What a totally impressiveforce. Whats it for?
 
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: commissarmoody on November 22, 2020, 09:00:30 PM
That is one huge hoast. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Atheling on November 22, 2020, 09:14:20 PM
That is a huge collection and one you ought to be very proud of GulKelan   :o :o :o
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: fred on November 22, 2020, 09:52:05 PM
What a superb set of figures - and so many of them. Very impressive.

Then I read this;

.
was hard work to finish. my first army and minis i painted as well

Super impressive work for your first figures!
.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 23, 2020, 01:57:45 AM
Hello everyone,

just wanted to post my Burgundian army


i also made some videos in which the details of the minis are more visibl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWEQtRWE0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XplxZOACtqo

Hope you like them :)

More like, ''I wanted to post an atomic bomb''  lol lol lol
Wow! I mean that ALOT of Burgundians! Great work!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Ockius on November 23, 2020, 04:53:05 PM
Very nice! Not often you see units that big, the mass effect is very impressive  :o
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on November 23, 2020, 08:05:44 PM
Thank you mates!

i put together a playlist for easy watch:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuH5zdxYSsjpMBJuqDi88y7MhsfU3zaVV

you are aware that your pikeunit is 120 man strong :o :o :o

People usually post units as they go along!!!

What a totally impressiveforce. Whats it for?

The benefit of 20x20mm magnetized bases is that you can choose always ur unit size and movement trays.

i havent played any games yet but would like to try days of knights which i heard is a fast play style game with typical medieval special rules like nobility...
but its originally designed to go along with 15mm minis...
heres a link to a review and a game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFsedebXNyk&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXtuUoORhVU&t

sounds great but maybe someone knows a even better system?

Fantastic stuff! Love the way they are ranked together. And great variation. Well worth the effort they must have taken.

hell yeah it was. i think it took about 500 hrs about...

however here are some work in progess minis. but will take a while.

Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Pattus Magnus on November 23, 2020, 09:10:00 PM
Wow, that’s amazing work! None of my 28mm forces has anywhere near that many figures, and i’ve been chipping away at them for decades...

Regarding rules, another possibility might be Never Mind the Billhooks, which was recently released as a free pamphlet in Wargames Illustrated magazine. It is aimed at Games set in the War of the Roses, but it should be able to represent Charles the Bold’s adventures on the continent. Several people have posted here about the rules and seem to have had fun with them. Heck, you probably already have enough figures painted to provide both sides of a Burgundian secession dispute to test drive the rules!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Emporium on November 24, 2020, 04:19:54 PM
Nice army, your mix of quantity/quality is really brilliant! I second your choicce to base your minis on single magnetized bases. It's a good way to transport/storage them and it makex them usable for various base size/ruleset.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: HappyChappy439 on November 24, 2020, 04:56:27 PM
Incredible work! That stack of cavalry definitely looks intimidating to finish!

Nice army, your mix of quantity/quality is really brilliant! I second your choicce to base your minis on single magnetized bases. It's a good way to transport/storage them and it makex them usable for various base size/ruleset.

Agreed, the magnetic bases idea is a good move!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on November 24, 2020, 07:56:23 PM
Wow, that’s amazing work! None of my 28mm forces has anywhere near that many figures, and i’ve been chipping away at them for decades...

Regarding rules, another possibility might be Never Mind the Billhooks, which was recently released as a free pamphlet in Wargames Illustrated magazine. It is aimed at Games set in the War of the Roses, but it should be able to represent Charles the Bold’s adventures on the continent. Several people have posted here about the rules and seem to have had fun with them. Heck, you probably already have enough figures painted to provide both sides of a Burgundian secession dispute to test drive the rules!

Haha Burgundian secession dispute :D
Thats a Great idea ;)

never mind the billhook defenatly looks intresting.
i saw the interview from wargames illustrated on YT. love their event card system.
Maybe one day he ll put out a ruleset for mass battles. or did he already? he said he wrote several rulesystemsif i am not mistaken

Nice army, your mix of quantity/quality is really brilliant! I second your choicce to base your minis on single magnetized bases. It's a good way to transport/storage them and it makex them usable for various base size/ruleset.

Thank you, very much appreciated! but to be honest i got the idea from a youtuber who explained it...
sadly i cant find his video anymore...
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Wellington Bonaparte on December 10, 2020, 08:30:09 PM
That army is beyond insane!  :-* that would take normal mortal several years to complete and the likes of myself a lifetime. Congratulations on such an awesome feat :)
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on January 11, 2021, 10:49:07 PM
That army is beyond insane!  :-* that would take normal mortal several years to complete and the likes of myself a lifetime. Congratulations on such an awesome feat :)

Thank you :)


I just found these great information about liveries for wotr:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=post;topic=127757.0;last_msg=1615189
(i dont post there because its origanally about wotr)

Does someone have maybe more informations about burgundian and swiss   captains, commanders and noble men in the time of the burgundian wars and their liveries and flags?

I bought some month ago the little book (because it was recommended in this forum):
The Burgundian Army of Charles the Bold: The Ordonnance Companies and their Captains

The  book is amazing and its intresting to read about the different captains and the companies. the amount of flags, which are shown in it, is amazing.

Just wondering if there is a book like this about the swiss confederacy and more in the internet to read and see about for burgundian and swiss personalities.




Also wanted to ask

1. if the captains and the comapny banner/flag bearers normally operated mounted or on foot?

2. Did the swiss personalities were on foot (fought along the pikemen)  or mounted?

3. did the swiss had any Mounted men at arms? or did only german/loraine allies provided Mounted men at arms?

4. in these pictures from a mod they shod late 15th cen. spearmen with pavises. Did these sombination existed or is this fiction?
https://www.google.com/search?q=1212+ad+pavises+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiilqi4-pTuAhUJG-wKHdRnCYYQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=1212+ad+pavises+&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1DMmkVYzJpFYKicRWgAcAB4AIABQ4gBQ5IBATGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=3dT8X-KzA4m2sAfUz6WwCA&bih=1329&biw=2560&client=firefox-b-d
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Atheling on January 11, 2021, 11:09:25 PM


The  book is amazing and its intresting to read about the different captains and the companies. the amount of flags, which are shown in it, is amazing.

Just wondering if there is a book like this about the swiss confederacy and more in the internet to read and see about for burgundian and swiss personalities.

At the time of writing, many a year back now, the Lance and Longbow Society had planned a sister volume for The Burgundian Army of Charles the Bold: The Ordonnance Companies and their Captains but sadly it never materialised.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: aphillathehun on January 12, 2021, 12:47:35 AM

Quite fond of Burgundy myself whether it hails from the Cote de Beaune or the Cote de Nuits  ;D

that's some impressive work - wished I lived close to you so I could game with those figs!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Grass-Hopper on January 12, 2021, 06:28:52 AM
Lovely looking force, very nice work.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on December 19, 2021, 06:55:20 PM
Hi Guys,
finished some time ago the rest of my minis but never finished the basing. today i finally got time.
this time i based them a bit different. im going to mix them with the first batch for variety.
only the banners and some freehands are missing...

Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on December 19, 2021, 07:06:44 PM
damn the size restictions of the  pictures are a pain....
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on December 19, 2021, 07:09:37 PM
some more... the picture quality is really bad... sorry for the bad lighting...
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: SJWi on December 19, 2021, 07:29:01 PM
GulKelan, with the exception of Charles the Bold Burgundian history is little known in the UK. I hopefully have the Bart Van Loo book arriving as a Christmas present which will certainly raise my knowledge of a fascinating period of Northern European history. I may even be inspired to build an army!

Regards
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: bluewillow on December 20, 2021, 06:20:23 AM
Lovely looking army, I have a list of Burgundian Nobles, I will dig it out over the next week or so.

cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Atheling on December 20, 2021, 07:51:16 AM
Lovely work  :-*
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: commissarmoody on December 20, 2021, 10:00:47 AM
You have a pretty impressive force.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 20, 2021, 02:20:13 PM
I only just came across this thread… wow! Epic work!
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Metternich on December 20, 2021, 09:32:03 PM
Just magnificent, especially en masse.
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on December 22, 2021, 05:57:09 PM
GulKelan, with the exception of Charles the Bold Burgundian history is little known in the UK. I hopefully have the Bart Van Loo book arriving as a Christmas present which will certainly raise my knowledge of a fascinating period of Northern European history. I may even be inspired to build an army!

Regards

this looks quite intresting. going to read it aswell i think...

Thank you guys, much appreciated.

Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on December 29, 2021, 12:55:38 PM
I only just came across this thread… wow! Epic work!

Me too - and the same response!!!  Awesome collection (I have some interest in the early Henry VIII period in England, c.1513, where the forces would have looked fairly similar, except for perhaps more firearms).
Title: Re: Burgundian Infantry Company
Post by: GulKelan on January 16, 2022, 05:23:22 PM
just watched this video and wanted to share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60PI8AJapRo

why did i just found this gem now?