I believe they are 13.5mm.
DB
So what is now basically 15mm. They really buried the info on what size they are, describing it as 'Epic scale' made me think that it was 6mm.
If I'm being honest, I don't think this announcement sets the world aflame. Plenty of other 15mm manufacturers out there doing ACW, and not in a restrictive strip like these are. Once again Warlord are going the GW route of tying you into their systems.
They are 13.5mm feet-to-eyes, or 15mm feet-to-crown-of-head. The former is a bit shorter than the currently popular 15mm feet-to-eyes.
There's a free frame of the figures on the cover of the new Wargames Illustrated. You can get a copy from me:
https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15243 (https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15243)
I'm sure this'll sell out before the end of January, so if you're interested I'd get a copy now. We're closing for Christmas on the 24th as well, so if you want a frame to look over during Christmas order now.
Cheers
Nick
PS I've been having a play with them today
It's odd to choose the shoulder-to-shoulder join for ACW, since I thought they nearly always deployed in open order to fight when close to the enemy? Maybe this is just the standard abstraction for moving battalions around in big battles.
Oh, those evil, evil bastards.I've heard their marketing department uses algorithms. lol
I just ordered a copy of WI to see what the figures look like in the flesh…I spoke to the former owner of Forgotten and Glorious, Warlord bought his ACW moulds and will re-release them. They will expand it with new miniatures by other sculptors. Focus on the early war.
What piqued my curiosity the most amongst all the fuzz about this release, what a small comparison pic in a link from Warlords' latest newsletter showing their epic scale minis alongside an "existing 28mm figures from our Black Powder range" …
Now, this figure is definitely an OOP Forgotten & Glorious mini… I really hope they bring back these figures in 2021 ::)
Plenty of information on this podcast that's not available elsewhere, including a very heavy hint that the next epic scale game might be English Civil War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V59Uvclxb2w
Plenty of information on this podcast that's not available elsewhere, including a very heavy hint that the next epic scale game might be English Civil War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V59Uvclxb2w
I reviewed the set in my blog. Full blog here: https://amsterdamwar.game.blog/2020/12/27/epic-acw-is-a-marketing-project-not-a-new-wargame-scale/ (https://amsterdamwar.game.blog/2020/12/27/epic-acw-is-a-marketing-project-not-a-new-wargame-scale/)
"Now Warlord, that bought the Forgotten & Glorious ACW range and recast them as 13,5 plastic..."
I like the concept of the 10 figure close order strips, but I am a little lost understanding the logic of Warlord's regimental organization. It appears a regiment is supposed to consist of five stands, each about 60mm's wide. This gives the unit a frontage of 300mm when in line. The normal frontage of a 28mm unit in Black Powder is 200-250mm. This means that the epic scale either requires a larger table or fewer units. A lot of the discussion I have seen implies the epic scale is a solution to the large tables required by 28mm armies, but the opposite seems to be true.
I got my free sprue, only painted the officer and the cannon so far, but they are lovely models.
Fairoaks, thanks for the lovely samples.Cheers norm!
........they'll bring out the odd set or two, promise future expansions to get people to buy, then ditch it when the money slows.......
(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=128677.0;attach=138659;image)
I got my free sprue, only painted the officer and the cannon so far, but they are lovely models.
Warlord will not support this in the long run, the cost of maintaining an extended new release schedule for the inevitable diminishing number of buyers does not fit their sales policy.
I like the concept of the 10 figure close order strips, but I am a little lost understanding the logic of Warlord's regimental organization. It appears a regiment is supposed to consist of five stands, each about 60mm's wide. This gives the unit a frontage of 300mm when in line. The normal frontage of a 28mm unit in Black Powder is 200-250mm. This means that the epic scale either requires a larger table or fewer units. A lot of the discussion I have seen implies the epic scale is a solution to the large tables required by 28mm armies, but the opposite seems to be true.
Absolutely.
Warlord will not support this in the long run, the cost of maintaining an extended new release schedule for the inevitable diminishing number of buyers does not fit their sales policy.
Warlord are all about the initial "new shiny" burst of enthusiastic new purchasers; as much as they can get, from as many new buyers as possible, in as short a space of time. Then move on to the next new thing.
Personally, I would go with 3 stands per regiment which means you could double the amount of regiments from 10 to 20. I would certainly want a command sprue to be offered before I even thought about buying these... Good god where would I find the time to paint them?
Unfortunately, past form doesn't bode well for those waiting for Warlord to fully support this. Their previous outings away from Bolt Action after buying up a range suggest they'll bring out the odd set or two, promise future expansions to get people to buy, then ditch it when the money slows. Sounds cynical I know, but it's just what I'd bet on, given what they've done in the past. I hope I'm wrong, for the sake of those who are interested in it.
I will go with three stands per regiment. I don't think it'll be very hard to modify a trooper or two to carry a flag -- particularly in plastic.
Another thing I might do is make command STANDS out of Kallistra figures: 4 figs on a 25mm x 25mm base, perhaps with a mounted officer. That would allow me to make bog-standard infantry stands for any number of systems.
I just got a wild idea that I am going to test out with my free WI sprue, when it finally manages to wend it's way down to Rio de Janeiro.
I've always toyed with the idea of doing an imagiNations late 19th century project, something like the American Civil War, only on steroids. Something which allows the CSA stand-in to have more of an industrial base, which would allow for ironclad fleet actions. Possibly a rationale for some heavy cavalry. Kallistra WW1 early war French Dragoons would be perfect. Certainly a rationale to paint more colorful uniforms, allowing one to field, say, entire brigades of Zouaves on both sides.
Seeing as how I already have a 3mm ACW historical set up to scratch my Black Powder epic itch, this might be the way I go. I may even just do the armies up in "regulation" blue and gray so they can be used as ACW armies in a pinch, but add on some gaudy, colorful, ahistoric special units like the above-mentioned cavalry and what not.
The imagiNations could be based on a North America analogue, but with the Great Lakes set in, say, the Mississippi basin, giving scope for some really cracking naval actions using late 19th century ironclads.
I mean, at these prices, why not? Black Powder is for old school fun games, anyhow, and what could be more fun (at least on the tabletop) than a nitrogen-injected ACW?
With a bit of imagination and creativity you could use these for the War of the Triple Alliance.
That’s actually a pretty neat idea. And you could also do weird steampunk things and imagiNations on Mars.
As for the idea, I think it is pretty good. As a smaller sized figure fan i do wonder, could this be a turning point for the magazines which have been very 28mmcentric for so long?
This is a very interesting recent video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiSw5rfDqwo
The guy covers:
- How he painted the minis.
- Unit size (and variations due to different rules)
- Compatibility with Kallistra minis (he has a Kallistra command group for one stand)
- How easy it is to convert the minis to wearing all kepis (liked that!)
- How fun it is to play Ultimate General Civil War (which I am also doing right now) ;)
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned in this thread is that Warlord has stated that any support figures for the range will be done in Warlord resin.