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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: tomek917 on January 11, 2021, 12:19:23 PM

Title: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 13/8, p.4)
Post by: tomek917 on January 11, 2021, 12:19:23 PM
I've been furiously painting romans and barbarians (and some others) the last year since there haven't been much gaming going on. Thought I'd share some images of the models!

(https://i.imgur.com/4UDglSp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YTqw7SV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iZln5kl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UiFpbYb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nKiM4De.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YzOjVpH.jpg)

Miniatures are mainly from Foundry but a few are from Warlord. The galley is from Sarissa Precision.
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Post by: The Inscrutable Dr. Huang on January 11, 2021, 12:25:14 PM
Nicely done. Well painted and photographed.
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Post by: Johnny Boy on January 11, 2021, 07:35:34 PM
Second that!! Really well done :o
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Post by: Mark M Down on January 11, 2021, 08:42:21 PM
They look absolutely beautiful.
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Post by: Fremitus Borealis on January 12, 2021, 02:31:19 AM
Very nicely done, and I'll second the motion about the amazing photography!
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Post by: FierceKitty on January 12, 2021, 02:59:48 AM
Mmm, yes.
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Post by: Codsticker on January 12, 2021, 04:17:45 AM
Both the painting and the photography are just excellent.
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Post by: Ragnar on January 12, 2021, 05:59:33 AM
Nice work, as others have said both the painting and the photography.  A shoutout though, to the Roman wounded in the arm; very realistic.
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Post by: Grass-Hopper on January 12, 2021, 06:23:55 AM
Cracking brushwork and some lovely pictures too.
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Post by: Burnin Coal on January 12, 2021, 07:19:21 AM
A great looking collection and top quality images - more please !....especially of the boat ! ;)
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Post by: tomrommel1 on January 12, 2021, 07:53:51 AM
very nice indeed
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Post by: tomek917 on January 12, 2021, 02:42:01 PM
Thank you!  :D

A great looking collection and top quality images - more please !....especially of the boat ! ;)

I'll definetly get some more shots of the boat, lovely kit from Sarissa! I'll just need to fix some sails for it...

My romans are based on the Siege of Alexandria so there's some Ptolemaic Thureophoroi coming up too!
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Post by: Bloggard on January 14, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
brilliant.
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Post by: sgzleada71 on January 15, 2021, 12:40:07 PM
Very impressive stuff. 
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Post by: Calimero on January 15, 2021, 07:48:18 PM
Very impressive stuff.

Indeed!  :-* 8) :-*
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Post by: tomek917 on January 22, 2021, 07:00:32 PM
Outside of Thapsus, Africa, april 6, 46 BC.
Veteran legionaries of the Tenth legion await orders to engage Metellus Scipios forces...

”...when suddenly on the right wing, without orders from Caesar but under coercion of the troops, a trumpeter began to sound the charge. Whereupon every single cohort began to attack the enemy, despite the resistance of the centurions, who planted themselves in the path of the troops and sought to hold them back by force, but all in vain.”
- Julius Caesar, The African War

28mm miniatures by Wargames Foundry.

(https://i.imgur.com/xOR6QAj.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 22 january, p.2)
Post by: wmyers on January 23, 2021, 05:02:57 AM
Beautiful figures.  I like the shield design choices.

What is the make of the cavalry?
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 22 january, p.2)
Post by: tomek917 on January 23, 2021, 11:43:33 AM
Beautiful figures.  I like the shield design choices.

What is the make of the cavalry?

Thank you! I did a lot of research into shield design before painting these and I was very sure of these design when I started painting. Now I can’t find the source though so they may be pure fantasy  lol

The roman cavalry are from Warlord Games, they are not that good sculpts though, if I do another unit I’d probably use Aventine Miniatures.

The german cavalry are from Foundry, can’t recommend them enough!
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 22 january, p.2)
Post by: gostgost on January 23, 2021, 05:29:10 PM
Great painted figures,really well photographed
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Post by: Doom Beard 78 on January 23, 2021, 06:25:43 PM
very impressive
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Post by: tomek917 on March 29, 2021, 10:35:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xyVHIF1.jpg)
Somewhere along the Nile, Egypt, 47 BC.

Roman cavalry, probably mercenaries from Gaul, skirmish with Ptolemaic thureophoroi.

”To them were added men collected from among the freebooters and brigands of Syria and the province of Cilicia and the neighbouring regions; also many condemned criminals and exiles had joined them. All our own fugitive slaves had a sure place of refuge at Alexandria.”
- Julius Caesar, The Civil Wars

Caesars description of the Ptolemaic forces he fought against in Egypt is intended for a roman reader. Perhaps it is also intended to justify his long stay in Egypt in the middle of a civil war which he started.

(https://i.imgur.com/UOGR0j3.jpg)
A roman testudo advances on the Ptolemaic defense lines during the Battle of the Nile, 13 january, 47 BC.

This was the last confrontation between Caesar and Ptolemy XIII. The young king, only 14 years old, drowned in the Nile while fleeing from the roman troops storming his camp. His older sister, Cleopatra, was made queen of Egypt afterwards.
Caesar lingered in Egypt for some time after the battle before continuing his campaign north into Syria and Asia Minor.

(https://i.imgur.com/udJzntf.jpg)
Julius Caesar watches as his legions march to suppress Vercingetorix's revolt in Gaul in 52 BC.

After the Marian reforms in 107 BC legionnaires were required to carry not only his own weapons and belongings but also several days worth of supplies and rations. This logistical change drastically reduced the size of the baggage train and made the roman army much more mobile. It also earned the legionnaires the nickname "Marius mules".

Caesar is famous for his quick forced marches, something that would not be possible without the Marian reforms.
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 29 March, p.2)
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on March 29, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Once again, lovely painting!
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Post by: markw on March 30, 2021, 09:29:51 AM

Great painting and really nice photography. Also a nice mix of manufacturers.
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Post by: Axebreaker on March 30, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Outstanding photography really sets a tone and story! :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 29 March, p.2)
Post by: tomek917 on March 31, 2021, 09:42:04 AM
Outstanding photography really sets a tone and story! :-*

Christopher

Great painting and really nice photography. Also a nice mix of manufacturers.

Once again, lovely painting!

Thank you!
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Post by: Muzfish4 on April 01, 2021, 07:43:00 AM
I concur with all the other comments.

Very nice work indeed.
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Post by: Mindenbrush on April 01, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
Nicely done 👍
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Post by: Samuel on April 02, 2021, 05:37:08 PM
These look nicer than most rulebooks.  Great work!
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 29 March, p.2)
Post by: tomek917 on April 04, 2021, 06:33:17 PM
Thank you!

(https://i.imgur.com/N7tQOGS.jpg)

South of Memphis, along the shore of the Nile, some roman legionaries relax with a game of dice, 45 BC.

Alea iacta est, ”The die has been cast”, is probably one of Caesar's most famous quotes. In fact the latin word alea refers to a game of dice, a common pastime in ancient Rome. The Romans used two kinds of dice, tesserae were like ordinary D6’s today and tali which were four sided (but not like our D4 ”pyramids” but more like a D6 with two of the ends rounded).
Source: Charlton T. Lewis, Charles Short, ”A Latin Dictionary”

Miniatures by Wargames Foundry.
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 4/4, p.2)
Post by: tomek917 on May 28, 2021, 11:29:19 AM
Ptolemaic Kleruch cavalry advance as thureophoroi infantry form up behind them. Northern Levant, modern Lebanon, during the Fourth Syrian War, 219 BC.

28mm Gripping Beast miniatures from their Polemarch range.

(https://i.imgur.com/BOWJCdq.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 28/5, p.2)
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on May 28, 2021, 12:21:14 PM
Beautiful as always!
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Post by: Hu Rhu on May 28, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
Lovely painting on those cavalry.   :-* :-*
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Post by: Captain Blood on May 28, 2021, 07:46:12 PM
Very nice painting, and great diorama style pictures  :-*
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Post by: has.been on May 28, 2021, 07:51:29 PM
Quote
The Romans used two kinds of dice, tesserae were like ordinary D6’s today and tali which were four sided (but not like our D4 ”pyramids” but more like a D6 with two of the ends rounded).

The British Museum have examples of Roman Polyhedral dice, &
I thought they only came about with Dungeon & Dragons in the 1970s.
They also have a pair (male & female) nude figures carved from cubes.
My friends & I postulated that they might have been used in a Roman
game that would have been a cross between 'Pass the Pigs' & the
Karma Sutra. :o :o :o

They also made frequent use of animal knuckle-bones as dice.
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Post by: sgzleada71 on May 29, 2021, 02:19:24 PM
superb, as ever
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Post by: tomek917 on May 31, 2021, 08:03:28 AM
Beautiful as always!

superb, as ever


Very nice painting, and great diorama style pictures  :-*

Lovely painting on those cavalry.   :-* :-*

Thank you!

The British Museum have examples of Roman Polyhedral dice, &
I thought they only came about with Dungeon & Dragons in the 1970s.
They also have a pair (male & female) nude figures carved from cubes.
My friends & I postulated that they might have been used in a Roman
game that would have been a cross between 'Pass the Pigs' & the
Karma Sutra. :o :o :o

They also made frequent use of animal knuckle-bones as dice.

Very interesting!
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 28/5, p.2)
Post by: tomek917 on June 11, 2021, 01:25:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/D00JpVP.jpg)

Achillas, guardian of Ptolemy XIII and commander of the kings troops, orders his forces to advance on Alexandria, 47 BC.

Achillas is one of the two men (the other being a roman named Septimius) who assasinates Pompey. He is later awarded command of the Ptolemaic forces sent to Alexandria to battle Caesar. He seems to have done a fairly good job but is himself later assasinated by Ptolemy XIII and Cleopatras sister Arsinoe(or rather on her orders by a eunuch named Ganymedes).

The armoured unit behind Achillas are imitation legionaries, or rather my take on them. The miniatures are actually Carthaginian veterans wearing roman lorica hamata chainmail but I think the attic helmets and greaves make them look very hellenistic, perfect for imitation legionaries.

28mm miniatures by Aventine, Gripping Beast (and Foundry in the back).
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Post by: Hu Rhu on June 11, 2021, 07:48:27 PM
Superb painting and great composition of the photo makes this an absolute winner.  :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: archiduque on June 14, 2021, 12:10:47 PM
Excellent work!!! ;)
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Post by: tomek917 on June 16, 2021, 07:54:56 AM
Thanks!  :)
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Post by: tomek917 on July 16, 2021, 11:59:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/qixAMld.jpg)

Nubian hunters scare off an ostrich somewhere along the Nile, 52 BC.
This photo was inspired by a part of the Nile mosaic of Palestrina. The huge floor mosaic depicts scenes from the Nile during the late Hellenistic period and was found in Palestrina southeast of Rome.
I recommend you visit Wikimedia Commons and have a look at some photos of it. It’s fascinating, if nothing else for some of the weird creatures depicted.
The Nubians are Macedonian javelinmen from Wargames Foundry with a suitable paint job and the ostrich is from North Star.
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Post by: Fremitus Borealis on July 17, 2021, 11:46:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qixAMld.jpg)

Nubian hunters scare off an ostrich somewhere along the Nile, 52 BC.
This photo was inspired by a part of the Nile mosaic of Palestrina. The huge floor mosaic depicts scenes from the Nile during the late Hellenistic period and was found in Palestrina southeast of Rome.
I recommend you visit Wikimedia Commons and have a look at some photos of it. It’s fascinating, if nothing else for some of the weird creatures depicted.
The Nubians are Macedonian javelinmen from Wargames Foundry with a suitable paint job and the ostrich is from North Star.

What a wonderful vignette  :o
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 11/6, p.3)
Post by: tomek917 on July 18, 2021, 06:35:38 AM
What a wonderful vignette  :o

Thanks!

I took some shots of the completed forces so far (There’s actually a few more units, some that are not based yet and some I’ve decided to sell because I didn’t like the minis).

The Romans
(https://i.imgur.com/jSlGdCK.jpg)

The Ptolemies
(https://i.imgur.com/LZey024.jpg)

I've been painting these forces for about a year now. The armoured legionnaires on the right with the white shield symbols were finished by the end of june 2020 and they were the first finished unit. Still a few things to do, mainly tufts on bases and I'm not really sure how to base the germanic cavalry, desert bases on those just seem...wrong.

I have a third unit of legionnaires to add to the romans and I'm going to bulk up the ptolemaic thureophoroi to 32 each and add a second unit of kleruch cavalry. Next stage is to extend the usage of these armies backwards in time by adding pike blocks to the ptolemies and somehow make the romans work as a republican force too.
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 16/7, p.3)
Post by: Unlucky General on July 18, 2021, 08:21:44 AM
I just love your work - both the painting and the portrayals. Inspiring stuff. Makes me want to get back to my Romans.
Title: Re: Tomek917's Romans and their enemies (updated 16/7, p.3)
Post by: tomek917 on July 22, 2021, 07:09:04 PM
I just love your work - both the painting and the portrayals. Inspiring stuff. Makes me want to get back to my Romans.

Thank you very much!
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Post by: tomek917 on August 13, 2021, 05:19:55 PM
Some Galatians and Cretan archers.
(https://i.imgur.com/sicpdIR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aWjcDUm.jpg)
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Post by: Digits on August 13, 2021, 08:44:41 PM
Love,y work and I love the ostrich hunt picture…very atmospheric image!