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Title: Noob foam tray question
Post by: marcnelsonjr on January 26, 2021, 05:45:35 AM
Howdy! I'm considering buying some foam trays and a bag to carry them in - specifically these:

https://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/supplies/foam-trays.html
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/supplies/gaming-bags.html

My question is: Do I put the minis into the foam trays standing up, or laying down? I've seen pictures of both, and I'm not sure what the pros and cons are of either arrangement. These are 28mm minis for Frostgrave from a variety of manufacturers.

Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: Daeothar on January 26, 2021, 10:10:49 AM
Hi, welcome to the LAF :)

As it is, I tend to put my 28mm minis in the foam all lying down. Reason for this is the fact that a lot of minis have fragile elements sticking up, like rifle barrels, spears or pikes, waving hands, etc. And when stacking foam trays on top of each other in a carrying solution, especially with metal minis, the weight will compress the foam trays, potentially snagging or breaking any protruding thin miniature parts, not to mention impacts like setting the bag/case down or *gasp* dropping it.

And when lying them down, your tray can be a lot shallower, meaning easier access to the miniatures in question. Also; my first case was a GW one, and the red foam in there was geared towards lying down miniatures.

There are probably arguments against transporting them lying down too. The most obvious one being wear and tear on the paint job by the (ever so slight) abrasive qualities of the foam. But that's nothing a good coat of varnish couldn't prevent I'd say.

In fact, I'm usually quite the slacker when it comes to varnishing my miniatures; I'm usually too happy they're done, and straight into a photo shoot and then the display cabinet they then go. And from there, it's often straight into the foam for a battle, and I've not experienced any negative effects on my paint jobs from the foam so far, in decades of operating like that.

Another negative could be space; a cavalry miniature will take up a lot more surface lying down, than standing up. But obviously, the space you lose like that is compensated for by a reduced height of the tray. So probably both solutions would result in the same cubic space being occupied (but I'm sure some mathematician could prove me wrong here ;) ).

In the end; I think most products offered will be geared towards lying down your 28mm miniatures, and upright placing of multi based, smaller scale miniatures, probably because of the convenience offered by either solution for the respective scales...
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: BZ on January 26, 2021, 10:35:28 AM
The answer for every foam tray question is: use magnetic tray.  lol
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 26, 2021, 10:44:32 AM
can only second BZ . I make my own magnetic tray/box by gluing thin steel sheets to the bottom of my plastic box and have a rare earth magnet in the base of every miniature. That works a treat . I can carry the boxes even upright or lid down without getting any miniatures shuffling  in the box. Recommended . That system even survives flight in non cabin luggage
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: fred on January 26, 2021, 12:31:24 PM
For 28mm minis on foot I put them in foam lying down.

For larger figures it depends and how they fit best!

I am a fan of magnetic basing for smaller scales, but haven’t really gone for it with 28mm stuff.
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: syrinx0 on January 28, 2021, 03:52:56 AM
All of my foam transport cases have the figures laying down.
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: marcnelsonjr on January 28, 2021, 04:38:05 AM
Thank you all for the advice and reasoning! Laying down it is.

And yes, I've looked up magnet trays and they look incredible. But I've got minis based on wood discs, tiddlywinks, buttons, you name it. The magnet plan seems to work best if you're basing on washers or putting magnets under hollow bases. I've gone too far to re-base now. :)

Next question: how deep should the trays be? If I'm measuring base size, it seems like 1.5 inches will be enough for most of my minis (with a deeper tray or two for big monsters). Does that sound right?
Title: Re: Noob foam tray question
Post by: BZ on January 28, 2021, 06:11:17 AM
And yes, I've looked up magnet trays and they look incredible. But I've got minis based on wood discs, tiddlywinks, buttons, you name it. The magnet plan seems to work best if you're basing on washers or putting magnets under hollow bases. I've gone too far to re-base now. :)
You can use self adheding magnetic sheet on plain bases, and then put them in a metal box.