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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Durando on January 26, 2021, 04:34:46 PM

Title: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 26, 2021, 04:34:46 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Deligrad


Always looking for unusual battles I ran across The Battle of Deligrad, the numbers involved make it an ideal project for those who already have or are collecting an Ottoman Napoleonic Army..... The Serbians are another story, shout if anyone who would be interested, some figures from The Greek War of Independence can be used
Title: Re: 1803 Serbian Uprising against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 26, 2021, 09:00:34 PM
https://youtu.be/ZNYhITE5YNA
Title: Re: 1803 Serbian Uprising against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 27, 2021, 02:14:57 AM
There is a book in English on the subject
Title: Re: 1803 Serbian Uprising against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 27, 2021, 08:46:42 PM
https://sr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%80%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%98%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_1804%E2%80%941817
Title: Re: 1803 Serbian Uprising against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 28, 2021, 09:35:48 AM
Battle of Vračar (17 February 1804)
Battle of Rudnik (28 February 1804)
Battle of Svileuva (11 March 1804)
Battles of Batočina and Jagodina (23–27 March 1804)
Battle of Kragujevac (1804)
Battle of Drlupa (April 1804)
Battle of Čokešina (28 April 1804)
Battle of Šabac (1 May 1804)
Ostružnica Assembly (6–15 May 1804)
Battle of Požarevac (18 May 1804)
Battle of Osat (1804)
Pećani Assembly (17 April 1805)
Battle of Užice (1805)
Battle of Karanovac (29 June 1805)
Battle of Adakale (1805)
Battle of Ivankovac (August 1805)
Borak Assembly (15 August 1805)
Battle of Rudnik
Battle of Vrbica
Smederevo Assembly (25–30 November 1805)
Battle of Bratačić (1 August 1806)
Battle of Mišar (12–15 August 1806)
Battle of Sikirić (29 September 1806)
Smederevo Assembly (1–5 November 1806)
Battle of Deligrad (December 1806)
Siege of Belgrade (November–December 1806)
Liberation of Belgrade (1807)
Ičko's Peace (13 July 1806–January 1807)
Battle of Loznica (1807)
Belgrade Assembly (25 February–6 March 1807)
Russian–Serbian Alliance (10 July 1807)
Battles of Malajnica and Štubik
Kruščica Rebellion (12 July 1808)
Battles of Oklenac, Vranjkovina and Pribićevac (31 October 1808)
Belgrade Assembly (14–15 December 1808)
Battle of Jasika
Battle of Prahovo
Siege of Niš (May 1809)
Battle of Čegar (31 May 1809)
Battle of Suvodol (late May 1809)
Palanka Assembly (2–8 October 1809)
Belgrade Assembly (1–2 January 1810)
Battle on the Drina (1810)
Battle of Varvarin
Battle of Loznica (17–18 October 1810)
Belgrade Assembly (1–12 January 1811)
Topola Assembly (17 July 1812)
Vraćevšnica Assembly (15–16 August 1812)
Kragujevac Assembly (1–2 January 1813)
Battle of Mačva
Battle of Loznica (August 1813)
Battle of Ravnje (August 1813)
Hadži Prodan's Revolt (mid–September 1814)

Second Serbian Uprising

Takovo Meeting (11 April 1815)
Battle of Čačak
Battle of Palež
Battle of Požarevac
Battle of Ljubić (8 May 1815)
Battle of Dublje (26 July 1815)
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 28, 2021, 08:08:23 PM
A Serbian rebel army can be formed in 28mm by choosing carefully from Greek Wars of Independence ranges and Napoleonic Ottoman Turks.
Here are some figures from Steve Barber and also Matchlock Miniatures
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 28, 2021, 08:16:50 PM
Figures from Matchlock Figures
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 28, 2021, 09:09:59 PM
https://youtu.be/nrLZ4QADmh0
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 28, 2021, 09:14:45 PM
Two types of Serbian militia
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: carlos marighela on January 29, 2021, 04:34:42 AM
Take a look at Brigade Games’ Albanians in their Napoleonic Ottoman range. Paul Hicks sculpts and they’d probably be perfect for this.
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Cat on January 29, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
Grenzers from War of Austrian Succession should fit in too if available in 28mm.
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 31, 2021, 12:40:06 AM
Stunning artwork by Serbian artist Gorski
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 31, 2021, 02:08:58 PM
The following book contains the artwork from the previous post
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Numpty on January 31, 2021, 02:35:04 PM
These are some fantastic posts! Do you have any ideas as to where one might procure that book on line? A link would be fantastic.
Thanks in advance.
C.
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on January 31, 2021, 09:41:17 PM
http://www.dvdzona.co.rs/user/strip-albumi-domaca-izdanja/evo-mene-eto-vas-secanja-kneza-milosa-na-drugi-srpski-ustanak-strip/7_2094_198177_1_0_0/item.jsp
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Donkeymilkman on January 31, 2021, 11:20:50 PM
Just like to say loving this thread
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 01, 2021, 10:47:23 PM
https://www.cacakmuzej.org.rs/files/eng_wars_1804_1941.pdf
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 02, 2021, 01:36:29 AM
https://srbin.info/pocetna/aktuelno/detalj-iz-srpske-istorije-da-li-su-crnogorci-izdali-srbe-ratujuci-za-turke/
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 02, 2021, 02:18:42 AM
Lawrence P Meriage
Russia and the First Serbian Insurrection, 1804-1813
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 02, 2021, 08:51:34 AM
Battle of Cegar 1809

https://youtu.be/POONJknWr_8
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 03, 2021, 09:56:40 AM
https://youtu.be/havq6RkI9tE
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 06, 2021, 08:31:26 PM
The Government Council (Praviteljstvujuči sovjet) decided in 1808 to establish a regular army, although the people's army, which in the middle of 1813 numbered about 50,000 men, remained the backbone of the armed forces until the end of the Uprising
Title: Re: Serbian Uprisings against Napoleonic Ottoman army
Post by: Durando on February 07, 2021, 02:21:23 AM
Serbian army uniform info found on another site

There is no doubt that the military organization with which the Serbs in the Freycorps were familiar, was of great help to the Insurgents when organizing their army. On account of this, the Austrian influence was strongest in the first moment. In the beginning, the Serbian Army had no uniform but wore their own clothing. The French consul David in Travnik gives this description in 1806: "The leaders of the rebels wear a magnificent suit and other valuable objects which they took from the Turks. Their cavalry has marvelous horses and the regular soldiers or peasants, dressed in a rough white homespun woolen fabric, fight with bitterness bordering on madness". Another contemporary Petar Jokic says in his memoirs that the Insurgents disguised themselves in Janissary clothing taken from the Turks so.that they would not be recognized.

However, in the reports of Austrian agents and spies from Serbia, there are many references to a uniformed revolutionary army. In 1807 they report that the Serbs wish to form two regiments and to uniform them in the Cossack style, and with time all would be "regularized" and dressed in the same fashion. In 1808 there is mention of Russian greatcoats which should arrive for the Serbs. In 1809 a regular unit was founded which wore a shako with a red cockade and long peasant jacket (gunjac). A detailed report follows on this: "Continuous exercises are still taking place and every day more soldiers are uniformed. They have dark coffee brown blouses with red facings, dark blue breeches with red stripes, shako with a red cockade and yellow upper border, shoes with buckles and laces as is our custom. The pandours (Council guards), of whom there are only four, are dressed in green". Lazar Arsenijevic Bata Laka gives a detailed description of the uniform introduced in 1808: "In the regular units officers, drummers and buglers had Russian uniforms. The officers, cannoneers, and drummers of the people's army had the same uniform and regular infantry wore a national style uniform: a black shako with a black belt chin strap, narrow peak, and tricolor cockade; in the summer each soldier had a sleeveless embroidered jacket (jelek) of a black coarse fabric and to just below the hips a short-waisted peasant jacket with sleeves, a shirt and breeches of strong linen, leggings of white fabric, socks knitted from thick colorfully spun wool and opanci on their feet. In the winter every soldier had breeches of strong black cloth and a peasant coat to the knees, all tailored in the national style. As for arms and other ammunition, every soldier had a gun with a bayonet. Across the shoulders, he had black cross straps, from one hung a cartridge box and from the other a bayonet when it was not on the gun. Apart from the above mentioned each soldier had a string knapsack for carrying soldiers' usual requirements." These "regulars" were organized by the Russian officer Ilya Novokreshcheny who according to the same author changed his Russian uniform for tight red breeches decorated with gold lace and trimmings, waistcoat and dark blue dolman adorned across the breast with lace and braid, while on the belt he hung a saber without which he was never seen.

A French reporter from Bosnia also speaks of Serbian cavalry and infantry organized in two regiments. The infantry has Russian and the cavalry Cossack uniform. The Cossack uniform consisted of white trousers, a green close-fitting blouse, and their weapon was a lance. The informers thought that the Serbs wished to deceive the Turks in these uniforms which were however produced at a period when the military organization in Serbia had reached a high standard and its requirements were similar to those of other European armies. There is evidence that Karadorde's bodyguard had a uniform or at least a red cap richly decorated with gold piping and tassels, which came from Russia.

Jakov Jaksic, a captain in the Serbian regular army, portrayed on a miniature probably from the period between 1808 and 1810, is represented in an interesting uniform. He has a blue tunic with rose collar and lapels. Double laces for decoration over the lapels fasten with round metal buttons. His epaulet is also made from lace. Over the left shoulder, he has a black cross belt. Across his forehead his hair falls in thin locks a la Titus, he wears sideburns and a pigtail whose bow is seen behind. In the right hand, he holds a helmet with a brown fur crest and black plume. Apart from Bata Laka's there are very few descriptions of officers' uniforms from that period.