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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Mr.J on January 27, 2021, 03:05:04 PM

Title: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Mr.J on January 27, 2021, 03:05:04 PM
Hi All

Thinking about jumping on the Stargrave bandwagon and wondered if anyone could comment on the scale/differences between the EM-4 and Copplestone minis. I get the impression there is some slight scale creep on the Copplestone minis but wondered whether that was due to them having an integral base rather than the tabs on the EM-4 ones.

Pics would be gratefully appreciated if anyone has them. Even better pics of the trooper types (I appreciate I might be pushing my look now...).

Thanks
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on January 27, 2021, 03:10:18 PM
I'm afraid I have no pictures, having sold all the figures, but yes - I am 98% sure that the integral base accounts for all the size difference. If not, it's a major contributor
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: Storm Wolf on January 27, 2021, 04:31:43 PM
A lot of the EM4 stuff (metals anyway) were sculpted by Copplestone anyway waayyy back, I have mixed and matched both ranges with no problem.

Glen
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: majorsmith on January 27, 2021, 07:02:29 PM
I think they mix in really well
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: Pattus Magnus on January 27, 2021, 08:23:13 PM
As the others said, the differences are minimal. The EM4 figures are a tiny bit slimmer in their proportions. To the extent that I notice it at all, the differences are mostly around the figures’ heads/helmets. The Copplestone figures also have a little more fine detail sculpted into their equipment and uniforms and in my opinion are slightly better quality. That said, I am totally comfortable mixing them together in my own collection.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: Orctrader on January 27, 2021, 08:25:31 PM
I think they mix in really well

I agree.  Copplestone slightly heftier than his original Grenadier\now EM-4, but I would mix without hesitation. 
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: Mr.J on January 27, 2021, 08:51:23 PM
Thanks all I have a couple of Copplestone minis and have bagged an EM-4 figure from eBay on the cheap to compare.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: syrinx0 on January 28, 2021, 02:59:21 AM
I mix both and don't think their is any issue.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: Moriarty on January 29, 2021, 08:53:25 AM
Hi, a quick Google Image on ‘size comparison X Y’ will give any number of pics, some even with scale background :-)

Worth remembering.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures
Post by: Mr.J on January 29, 2021, 08:51:55 PM
Thanks I tried that but struggled finding decent images which is why I brought the question here:

Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Mr.J on January 30, 2021, 12:59:35 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/50/2198-300121125501.jpeg)

Hi guys, the trooper is EM-4 the rest are Copplestone Future Wars.
I lined them up at the foot and as you can see I think they’re a solid match; possibly a tad smaller but that could be due to his hunched stance.

Definitely wouldn’t have an issue mixing them.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Yuber Okami on January 30, 2021, 02:00:48 PM
EM4's near future troopers (like the second one in the above pic) tend to have smaller heads and hands than their Copplestone castings equivalents (EM4s have more realistic proportions IMO). A bit surprising considering both were sculpted by the same person.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Mr.J on January 30, 2021, 02:38:03 PM
Well there was quite a gap in between the two ranges being produced so that might account for the style/size differences. Look at the ranges on Copplestone Castings. Some are huge others not so much.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Orctrader on January 30, 2021, 08:32:09 PM
...Copplestone Castings. Some are huge...

The Neo-sovs, the two packs I had, were huge compared to others in the range.  Odd.  In the BoB range, same oddity with the brits.  Larger than the others.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Silent Invader on January 30, 2021, 09:55:50 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/50/2198-300121125501.jpeg)

Hi guys, the trooper is EM-4 the rest are Copplestone Future Wars.
I lined them up at the foot and as you can see I think they’re a solid match; possibly a tad smaller but that could be due to his hunched stance.

Definitely wouldn’t have an issue mixing them.

I’d not previously considered the Em4 troopers so that’s a very useful image to see. Thanks.  8)
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Mr.J on January 31, 2021, 12:32:49 PM
No worries, I was interested in finding out and thought it might be useful. Turns out they paint up nicely too. Will probably put in on a flatter base eventually.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/50/2198-310121122239.jpeg)

Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Storm Wolf on January 31, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
Indeed in my experience they do paint up very well indeed, and even better you don`t have to build them :-*

Win, win in my book.

Keep up the good work

Glen
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Silent Invader on January 31, 2021, 01:58:56 PM
No worries, I was interested in finding out and thought it might be useful. Turns out they paint up nicely too. Will probably put in on a flatter base eventually.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/50/2198-310121122239.jpeg)

Very nice   8)
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: sleep when Im lead on February 05, 2021, 11:03:18 AM
The size difference, isn't noticeable. The important thing is that they are stylistically similar. Mark copplestone is possibly my favourite sculptor. The old grenadier stuff is available from Mirliton but as I have been waiting for over 5 weeks for s delivery, not sure I would recommend them. There were a bit shabby the last time I ordered. Scotia have some that are armed ivilians which are more sci-fi cyberpunk.
Title: Re: EM-4 / Copplestone miniatures (photo added)
Post by: Mr.J on February 05, 2021, 05:53:12 PM
I've just ordered a few more from Forlorn Hope Games.