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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: anton ryzbak on March 02, 2021, 06:23:30 AM
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Just picked up the new French Resistance minis from Wargames Atlantic, all I can say is WOW!!! https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2021/03/wargames-atlantic-28mm-partisans.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2021/03/wargames-atlantic-28mm-partisans.html)
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Looks excellent! Thanks for the pics :)
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These look great. Plenty of conversion potential.
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I just wish there were more rifle arms. The SMGs are all a bit too modern for my VBCW games.
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Agreed. I wonder if there’s any plans for a ‘spare’ sprue of earlier rifles/pistols as this set would have a lot of scope for other/earlier resistance groups.
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They look rather good, and I was impressed with the WA Dark Age Irish set. Some nice looking bits and pieces in there. Wonder if they will fit with the diminutive Perry WW2 plastics. I would like to give one of my DAK officers a broom handle Mauser lol
But... Only 4 bodies? (And not including a kneeling figure, as depicted in the box art?) So you get 8 identical frames in the box? Honestly, I think this approach is poor.
I want to like WA, I really do. The quality of what they produce seems pretty good and to be improving all the time. But I want more variety from a box of plastic figures. Just four different bodies in a 32-figure set is feeble.
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I want to like WA, I really do. The quality of what they produce seems pretty good and to be improving all the time. But I want more variety from a box of plastic figures. Just four different bodies in a 32-figure set is feeble.
I feel the same, as I want more variety in a box of plastics, especially ones for us in skirmishes.
Also, why a big improvement, those MP38/40s are just bad, with the magazine far too small. Other issues too....but also a lot of good stuff, like the faces.
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Hmm....I would have liked more rifles as well. Still I suspect between spare weapons from their own WW1 Germans plus Warlord WF and Perry there’s bound to be stuff that can be kit bashed on to these.
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Excellent product, picked up a set for our early 30's Oz Civil War games!
Not fussed there are no prone or crouching figures, standing ones look better for gaming in my opinion.
More rifles and some egg hand grenades would have been nice but I can understand what's supplied, for partisans SMGs would have been better due to their size and hit and run fighting, maybe some engineering stuff like explosives, detonators etc would have been cool. It's all personal preference really.
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I agree with comments above, 32 minis with only four body types is daft, especially as you can’t even mix and match torso with legs.
A shame because these are nice. I may buy two frames when they appear on eBay. I dare say finding extra rifle arms from the bits box won’t be a problem.
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Don't forget that it is Partisans (1).
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Don't forget that it is Partisans (1).
Cool but I suspect Partisans 2 will probably be Russian types, rather like every other bugger produces and I have more than enough of those.
So little love for the Yugoslavs or Italians. I would have thought that ‘Force 10 From Navarone’ would have left a bigger footprint on the wargaming world but it seems not.
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Cretan Partisans would be nice. The Gorgon metals are so pricey.
Cool but I suspect Partisans 2 will probably be Russian types, rather like every other bugger produces and I have more than enough of those.
So little love for the Yugoslavs or Italians. I would have thought that ‘Force 10 From Navarone’ would have left a bigger footprint on the wargaming world but it seems not.
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Yes, I wish I had bought some when I bought their Norwegians. The postage was eye watering.
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I just wish there were more rifle arms. The SMGs are all a bit too modern for my VBCW games.
Agree. They posted a reply to that question on FB that they where aware of that and it was somewhat intentional - the german and (upcoming) british WW1 boxes give a lot of rifle arms. And the sneak peek they released recently showed what looked like WW2 germans so that's even more sources. Not perfect or optimal but at least somewhat understandable.
But... Only 4 bodies? (And not including a kneeling figure, as depicted in the box art?) So you get 8 identical frames in the box? Honestly, I think this approach is poor.
Very true. You can get an amazing lot of variation from a few bodies if you have a good variety of arms and heads, but four...? That's very few. I think the Warlord Games 6 body standard is just about as low as you can go reasonably.
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Having only a few bodies works when you are doing uniform wearing troops, but the lack of variety REALLY stands out when you have irregulars such as these. Their individual dress of each will always stand out no matter how many different shades you paint it!
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Cool but I suspect Partisans 2 will probably be Russian types, rather like every other bugger produces and I have more than enough of those.
So little love for the Yugoslavs or Italians. I would have thought that ‘Force 10 From Navarone’ would have left a bigger footprint on the wargaming world but it seems not.
I have written them trying to get some sense of what that (1) stands for, and above all I have inquired about whether they plan to make Italian partisans (which I have been converting for years now). They were kind enough to reply immediately and wrote that they are thinking about them, but made no promises. To repeat an earlier point I am obsessed about, if only anyone would make a decent 28mm head with an alpino hat... sigh..
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speaking of which, has anyone tried these: https://www.jjgprint3d.com/page-d-articles/têtes-italiens-alpini ?
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But... Only 4 bodies? (And not including a kneeling figure, as depicted in the box art?) So you get 8 identical frames in the box? Honestly, I think this approach is poor.
I want to like WA, I really do. The quality of what they produce seems pretty good and to be improving all the time. But I want more variety from a box of plastic figures. Just four different bodies in a 32-figure set is feeble.
It does seem to have a slight 'toy action figure' feel to it, with the bulgy shoulders and oddly dramatic stances ... but perhaps I'm being picky, looking for natural poses on a multi-part set. Yet when you think about all that could have been done with the body positions - kneeling, standing, walking, squatting - as well as the glaring absence of female subjects (surely a must with French resistance, non?), plus typical equipment - shotguns, hunting rifles, BARs, Molotov cocktails, explosive charges, binoculars, commando knives, Very pistols - it does look like the set is part way through development and has just been rushed out.
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I think that’s a good summary Cubs. My feeling is that WA have a lot going for them, but they’re very committed to speed, and this is selling short some potentially excellent kits.
Still, I guess from their point of view, they could take twice as long and include twice as many components, including all the things you’ve listed, and a better variety of bodies, which would presumably cost them twice as much in design and tooling costs - but they’d still only sell for 20 quid a box (or whatever), so the only question is whether they would sell twice as many sets.
This seems to be the equation that is driving many of the plastic ‘historical’ figure kit manufacturers down the road of offering the minimum possible in a set - Gripping Beast taking the biscuit in this regard, comparing their more recent plastic sets with their original Viking and Saxon sets. But several of the others have followed suit.
Thank God for Perry and Victrix who are dedicated to producing excellent quality kits which include generous numbers of different bodies and a wide variety of components.
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speaking of which, has anyone tried these: https://www.jjgprint3d.com/page-d-articles/têtes-italiens-alpini ?
If you are interested in the quality of the JJG product , Tancrede's Bir Hakim thread on this board has numerous French heads from that company. https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=128435.0
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If you are interested in the quality of the JJG product , Tancrede's Bir Hakim thread on this board has numerous French heads from that company. https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=128435.0
Thanks ! that's where I got the information from ;-)
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I have written them trying to get some sense of what that (1) stands for, and above all I have inquired about whether they plan to make Italian partisans (which I have been converting for years now). They were kind enough to reply immediately and wrote that they are thinking about them, but made no promises. To repeat an earlier point I am obsessed about, if only anyone would make a decent 28mm head with an alpino hat... sigh..
I know they are Greek but they could pass for Northern Italians?
https://gorgon-studios.myshopify.com/collections/world-war-ii-partisans
dunno if these are any use?
https://www.wargaming3d.com/product/28mm-ww2-italian-infantry-platoon-and-support/
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I know they are Greek but they could pass for Northern Italians?
https://gorgon-studios.myshopify.com/collections/world-war-ii-partisans
dunno if these are any use?
https://www.wargaming3d.com/product/28mm-ww2-italian-infantry-platoon-and-support/
Thanks Truscott Trotter! I have the Gorgon ones, they are beautiful and I bought them the moment they came out. And you are right, at least some of them could pass for Italians. Too bad they only made a few.
Not sure about the other ones, I haven't seen them and from the pictures it's hard to judge their quality . But thanks anyway!
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I agree with Cubs. Been waiting years for a female Franc-Tireur. If a company were to make a nice figure of Simone Sigouin (her of the shorts and the MP40) as in the (I believe) Robert Capa photo, I would bite their bleedin' hand off.
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I agree with Cubs. Been waiting years for a female Franc-Tireur. If a company were to make a nice figure of Simone Sigouin (her of the shorts and the MP40) as in the (I believe) Robert Capa photo, I would bite their bleedin' hand off.
Well now, if little boys and girls are good and say their prayers every night, they might just find that Bad Squiddo are going to expand their WW2 range with some French Resistance in a few months ... and she might be on the list.
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;) ;) ;) ;) ;) lol lol lol lol lol
Well now, if little boys and girls are good and say their prayers every night, they might just find that Bad Squiddo are going to expand their WW2 range with some French Resistance in a few months ... and she might be on the list.
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The details look pretty clean and crisp, I'd go for a 2 sprues for conversions, but not 8 identical sprues.
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But... Only 4 bodies?
Excellent, isn't! From a single frame you can put together the famed three-headed maquisards of Hautes-Alpes! ;)
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So has anyone assembled any yet?
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That mp40 looks wierd!!
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Hi Ultravilliansmurf I have finished my first batch of twelve figures from this set, they went together easily and are in general nicely detailed. I have only used sidearms and rifles as my figures are for interwar use (1932) so no Brens or SMGs...
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More on them here...
https://toysoldiersforoldgits.blogspot.com/2021/05/the-great-antipodean-adventure-new.html (https://toysoldiersforoldgits.blogspot.com/2021/05/the-great-antipodean-adventure-new.html)
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Hopefully the drought of rifle arms can be sorted out by mixing in arms from other sets. However from the WWI German set I have from Wargames Atlantic - they don't seem to scale well with other manufacturer's plastic kits.
These figures have arms that are quite chunky. At best they'd work with Warlord's range - if you work on covering up the joins. I'd bought the Wargames Atlantic figures hoping they'd work with my Perry stuff (based on all the folk saying how small these models were supposed to be). However they're well on the Heroic scale if anyone's curious.
Great Escape Games recently showed off a plastic Wild West gunslinger set that could maybe be mixed in with these figures for variety too - if you say buy single sprues from Ebay.
Wargames Atlantic's said that they have more WWII sets coming. We'll have to see how they handle their second Partisan set. Particularly if its more male figures - so the parts can be interchanged - or if its a female set. It may wind up being that their sets exist in their own ecosystem as far as parts interchanging goes due to their weird proportions.
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With se.warlord plastic arms mixed in. If you look hard they are chunkier bit not so much that its obvious
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Great work! Those figs look really nice.
Oddly enough (I'm a former tanker), I like the stacks of tank hulls behind them, too... :)
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Great Escape Games recently showed off a plastic Wild West gunslinger set that could maybe be mixed in with these figures for variety too - if you say buy single sprues from Ebay.
This is my plan, both to "civilianize" the weapon options and Americanize the fashion somewhat...
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Great work! Those figs look really nice.
Oddly enough (I'm a former tanker), I like the stacks of tank hulls behind them, too... :)
Yep, check out my Stalingrad thread for more details...
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Yep, check out my Stalingrad thread for more details...
Have been. Just finally left a comment there... 8)
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So has anyone assembled any yet?
I used some of these for Volkssturm and Arrow Cross militia, I will post them when painted in a thread.