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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: tancrede on March 02, 2021, 08:55:09 AM
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Hi guys,
As a french player, I'm interested on playing a french army for modern and hypothetical conflicts.
It's really difficult to find minis (Eureka are good for early war in Afghanistan but not for the last part of the french presence, Empress is good for new army, but both ranges are not very developped and lacks some important minis such as sniper, JTAC, MMG,...)
As I'm not the only one in this case, some other french players have decided to design and print a whole range of French soldiers for "late Afghanistan" and Mali.
The range is avalaible at https://www.jjgprint3d.com/ (https://www.jjgprint3d.com/), and will expand in the next months.
Some vehicles are avalaible in 3D print at https://www.ludocortorum.fr/ (https://www.ludocortorum.fr/)
And another range will be avaliable in the coming months as Normandie Miniatures wants to start a kickstarter for a whole range, including weapons options (FAMAS or HK416) and some vehicles.
But enough of speaking, here are the first minis :
- "bonus mini" (french soldier and afghan teen, a goodie from JJG Prints), 600m team (FAMAS, Minimi and LGI) and 300m team (team leader, FAMAS with grenade and 2 AT4):
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TO0IQi2V7AU/YD33DEB5flI/AAAAAAAAKiA/f5MQf6nQG0saLtGuaTKqQQt-enoa5JWGQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1135/DSC_1392.JPG)
- for those who asks, here is one of my inspiration pic for the colors :
(https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.70680.1337369811!/httpImage/image._gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jw3iqAloWBk/YD324aspoWI/AAAAAAAAKhw/n_M_m7U7JWEsDEN08yyqOaIULAtutFhTACLcBGAsYHQ/s527/DSC_1430%2B%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sj9TmfH3vKw/YD325DR-ihI/AAAAAAAAKh8/NTYBjeq8cVccjUeq0lv4JDtvdCraefUzwCLcBGAsYHQ/s618/DSC_1432%2B%25282%2529.JPG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F4H5XwIWWsk/YD324e2mykI/AAAAAAAAKh0/G0qD356dJGoguiYTvMPX2Fb7hM451KamQCLcBGAsYHQ/s553/DSC_1431%2B%25282%2529.JPG)
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Very nice indeed!
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Thanks for sharing, and your painted models look great.
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Looks great! Really nice minis and great paint job.
Could you please share the 3D printer company on this thread: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=129459.0
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Really nice work, French are definitely on my to-do list, may have been bumped a little higher after seeing this!
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Thanks for comments, guys.
Links shared in the appropriate section.
I hope to see more modern french forces soon, as our soldiers have fighted or are still fighting in many places for the last 15 years (Afghanistan, Mali,... and Special Forces have been seen in Libya and in Syria/Iraq), and it's rarely seen on the net.
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Thanks for posting. I have a small French force for our Afghanistan games, 20mm though.
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Thanks for sharing. A cool project.
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Thanks, guys.
Thanks for posting. I have a small French force for our Afghanistan games, 20mm though.
As it's 3D printed, JJG Print 3D offers to print the minis in 28mm, 20mm and 15mm ! ;)
For today, a little update with the last members of the "300 meters team" :
(https://i.ibb.co/nLbRsr6/DSC-1441.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1J3vmmB/DSC-1443.jpg)
And the whole team :
(https://i.ibb.co/Pghx4jN/DSC-1444.jpg)
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Very cool. I play skirmish in 15mm so seeing these are available that way is a big bonus. I looked briefly at the site and was greeted by very interesting topics. I am not American and find these lesser available forces both refreshing and innovative. I have been collecting micro armour French in order to play the various OPEX operations around the world especially real and imaginations in Africa where France was the colonial power and so continues it's presence.
I understand these are 3D printed but are they, or may be in future, available as metal castings, or may be from from Normandie? I have been collecting QRF 15mm French forces but they are looking to sell the product line off and so are no longer available from QRF. I have found them from other sources. Peter Pig has some but I find his look very "chunky".
Thank you very much for bringing these to our attention and please any other leads or links to French centric modern gaming would be very appreciated.
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Excellent sculpts and paint work! Those are very nice.
I only wish someone would do so French troops for the 1970s and ‘80s, Kolwezi, Chad, Beirut etc. Would love some French Cold War troops, all the vehicles are already out there between Solido and Quarter Kit.
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Very nice,
a project for me later in the year is to do a classic 1989s French army for the Cold War and avfew pieces for the first Iraq war.
Cheers
Matt
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Thanks for comments, guys.
Very cool. I play skirmish in 15mm so seeing these are available that way is a big bonus. I looked briefly at the site and was greeted by very interesting topics. I am not American and find these lesser available forces both refreshing and innovative. I have been collecting micro armour French in order to play the various OPEX operations around the world especially real and imaginations in Africa where France was the colonial power and so continues it's presence.
I understand these are 3D printed but are they, or may be in future, available as metal castings, or may be from from Normandie? I have been collecting QRF 15mm French forces but they are looking to sell the product line off and so are no longer available from QRF. I have found them from other sources. Peter Pig has some but I find his look very "chunky".
Thank you very much for bringing these to our attention and please any other leads or links to French centric modern gaming would be very appreciated.
If you want more 80s/90s french forces in 15mm, you can take a look at the Team Yankee range.
Not really cheap, but the infantry is metal and can do the job :
(https://www.team-yankee.com/portals/0/all_images/TeamYankee/FreeNations/FRA/TFR702-30.jpg)
For JJG Prints, it will certainly not be casted in metal.
Normandy Miniatures as shown some 3D designs for troops, but no idea if it will be hard plastic, resin or metal.
We have a serious discussion on a french forum for the game "Au contact" (https://aucontact.forumactif.com/t109-beta-discussion-projet-francais-moderne-au-28mm (https://aucontact.forumactif.com/t109-beta-discussion-projet-francais-moderne-au-28mm)) upon the design, as for many of us, we want both NM and JJG ranges to be fully compatible to offer a wide range of minis.
But those minis are for contemporary actions, 2000 and after, due to equipment. Not for 80s/90s conflicts.
And as the well known but old FAMAS had begun to be remplaced by HK416, if you can still field those minis for actual conflicts (in Mali, for example), on the pictures, you see less and less of troop with FAMAS (except for the Legion).
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I am not the one into the 80s and 90s, ultra modern works for me as well.
Do you have a link to the Au Contact rules themselves? Thank you.
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I am not the one into the 80s and 90s, ultra modern works for me as well.
Do you have a link to the Au Contact rules themselves? Thank you.
You can buy the rules here (french only) : https://www.pumbo.fr/boutique/livre/au-contact-amarante-wargames?fbclid=IwAR1BYrJanB_ZSnfydh08rwFQu7_ZCg2KY_dXwMUvejPYWX7O7gRuUzk3tqw (https://www.pumbo.fr/boutique/livre/au-contact-amarante-wargames?fbclid=IwAR1BYrJanB_ZSnfydh08rwFQu7_ZCg2KY_dXwMUvejPYWX7O7gRuUzk3tqw)
And here you have the blog of the creator : http://jardinsdepierre.blogspot.com/?m=1 (http://jardinsdepierre.blogspot.com/?m=1)
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Thank you for the links. I was hoping the rules might be a pdf as then I could translate it to English. That is what I did with OPEX. I then read it and changed it into gaming English instead of Google translate messed up English! I will have to peruse the various parts of the discussion forum and see if I can glean the game mechanisms in order to see if I will buy a copy anyways.
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The best I can propose you is to send a message to the autor of the rules.
He can explain you the rules better than me, and maybe you can work together on the translation.
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I found a couple videos on youtube which I hope to try to understand. I think I understand spoken French better than written. Hopefully they show the aspects of the rules I am interested in.
Somewhere I saw a reference which stated the rules are a French version of Bolt Action. Not good as I find BA a pretty sad game when compared to the likes of Chain of Command (WWII) or my favorite skirmish rules Ambush Alley (I still have to expand into Force on Force yet). We shall see. Thank you for exposing us to what else is out there.
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Some game mechanics are an adaptation of BA rules (dices in a bag for activation, for example), but with som twists (to continue with the dices, you add a black and a white dices in the bag : one end the turn, the other is for a special event).
The game is more complex than BA due to modern equipment (ballistic protections, smoke, NGV, helicopters,...) but as far as I can understand without trying the game myself, the game mechanics are simple enough.
The troops characteristics allows to modifiy training and moral, so you can have a fanatical civilian militia (poorly trained but high morale value) or conscripts, for example. A little bit more realistic than the 3 levels of troops of BA.
But you will not find the CoC game mechanics...
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Question, how do those 3d printer figs compare size wise with Empress modern French? I don't mind if they are a a bit shorter like the Eureka figs are. ;D
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Question, how do those 3d printer figs compare size wise with Empress modern French? I don't mind if they are a a bit shorter like the Eureka figs are. ;D
As I have no modern French from Empress, it will be difficult.
Here is a pic from the "Au contact" forum showing Eureka (front) and JJG Print (back) models :
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f75/12/05/11/10/2021-022.jpg)
I have no better pics, and the only Empress models I have are WW2 Italians.
Just keep in mind those ranges cover different periods (as far as I know) :
- Eureka : early 2000s => late 2000s
- JJG Print : early 2010s till now.
For Empress, they are more actual as they are fielded with the new HK416, delivered after 2018, and some actual clothes.
But for me, the Empress range lack of backpack (and some equipments to field a whole battle force : JTAC, drone controllers, special forces, heavy sniper, medium machinegun,...), and as they are fielded with HK and not FAMAS, it's impossible to mix them with other ranges for now.
Remember that french army don't mix equipments in the same unit, so you'd better don't mix the different ranges in the same army.
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Makes sense logistical. I was going to use the Empress to represent different I units in the same theater.
So they do seem to be about the same size as the Eureka mins then. Which is good because I have a few of the Eureka FFL. And I was planning on uaeing them as allied Francophone African or Asian national Troops. For a fictional country and conflict.
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Makes sense logistical.
Yes, french army is deploying new equipment/weapons/tanks regiments after regiments.
So a whole force will look the same, even if another unit on the same battlefield is not equiped exactly in the same way.
And for the special forces, even if the operators have the "standard look" there is still a lack of vehicles (the only one is the Panhard VFS from Footsore America).
You can play a nice scenario with a bunch of french special forces and their VFS on an airport, for example (like the Kidal operation in Mali).
I just want to see someone making a heavily armed Sherpa PLFS ("Poids Lourd Forces Spéciales" = special forces truck), for example :
(http://www.loutan.net/olivier/wp-content/images/2018/03/Renault-Sherpa-3-Light-PLFS-Forces-Speciales-01d.jpg)
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That would be cool to see. Might need to slip the idea to some of the 3d model design guys. : :D
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Well I tried to order thirty euros of minis in 15mm but just received a "we do not ship to your area" result on the cart. I emailed the contact so I hope they can make some arrangements.
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Now ships to Canada. Merci!
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It's cool to see those minis on the way on the other side of the ocean !
Be careful, they are made in printing resin, so they break easily.
For me, I now have finished the 600m team, and the first combat group is ready for action :
(https://i.ibb.co/6RwjRfb/20210406-081451.jpg)
And more to come soon, as I've received more minis from JJG Print :
- second combat group :
(https://i.ibb.co/bWHsxNS/20210403-180108.jpg)
- AAFN1 machinegun :
(https://i.ibb.co/9TS5zhQ/20210403-180222.jpg)
- and special forces heavy sniping team :
(https://i.ibb.co/fdYH7v3/20210403-180245.jpg)
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It's cool to see those minis on the way on the other side of the ocean !
Be careful, they are made in printing resin, so they break easily.
Thank you for the heads up. I have some 6mm printed tanks and all the tiny machine gun barrels were lost quickly. If they are given a few coats of clear after painting does that help at all?
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Some said me that a thin coat of glue on the little parts can help.
But for now I've broken 3 FAMAS barrels, and replaced them with a thin metal rod and at gaming distance, you can't see the difference. If it does the same with your 15mm minis, try to use som pins.
But it's a problem due to the printing resin, very crisp and not soft enough to be deformed.
The best I can say to you is to be careful with the minis and handle them only by base, even for painting.
I have some 6mm too (eldars for Epic Armageddon) and I've had the same problem (especially with blades).
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Dipping in thinned PVA might help?
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I don't know.
But it may hide all the details...
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I'm currently working on my Infinity Defiance minis, but here is a little WIP of the machinegun team :
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ByEg6iaDs5o/YHk8RXSK8SI/AAAAAAAAKl4/bgiGxweH6N84PC0RSQ_Fzdk-jPoL_TS7gCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/20210411_121315.jpg)
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Nice.
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Really nice figures and painting, I'm going to order some of these figures especially the Snipers
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:o Very nice.
Also good to see a VBCI stl. I mostly deal in 20mm and 6mm, but for years I've had Modern French for Mali and Afghan but no up-to-date vehicles for them to ride around in.
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Thanks, guys.
The machinegun team is now complete :
(https://i.ibb.co/9vnzVK2/182885628-105671375020782-3146715300787526062-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Lg6dmQF/182863238-105671405020779-1028541784796756361-n.jpg)
The whole "army" together. I have lot of work to do to have a complete force ! ^^
(https://i.ibb.co/GQRqGJk/182842217-105671535020766-8618216092003030526-n.jpg)
Coming next is my second combat group, and I've ordered a VBL yesterday.
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They look awesome can't wait to see the next additions
. I have placed an order which I should get tomorrow- can't wait to start painting.
Can I ask do you wash your figures first (which I always do with resin)
Thanks
Steve
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Loving the MG! the AA52 is something the Eureka range was missing, although bizarrely I know the sculptor made one, I have one that I used for a conversion of one the riflemen.
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Can I ask do you wash your figures first (which I always do with resin)
No, as it's printing resin, not casting. So no lube for moulding.
I undercoat, as I always do, but it's not necessary too....
Loving the MG! the AA52 is something the Eureka range was missing, although bizarrely I know the sculptor made one, I have one that I used for a conversion of one the riflemen.
For the moment, the range from JJG is lacking many things, but I hope it will complete soon.
Especially the FR-F2, still used in many units (especially in Afghanistan), JTAC and other little things.
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Do the French still use the Famas F1 I was going to use them for my special forces
Steve
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Lovely paint jobs 8)
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Do the French still use the Famas F1 I was going to use them for my special forces
Steve
As far as I know, the FAMAS G2 was delivered to the french army in 1984, and the last models were built nearly 30 years ago, so it's a very old gun....
The first units of the french army received the HK416 in 2017. You can also use some Colt M4 as main weapon.
So in 2020, no more special forces are using the FAMAS anymore.
All the actual pictures of FSF units show them using HK416.
And you can even find older pictures (I have seen one tagged in 2010 in Afghanistan) showing operators using what seems to be Colt M4 instead of FAMAS.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/tzbsclCxtXtHKchL1QcslFhwNiIUvRAbHjTRUasKD8g.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f56cdb7435f0e6aa534c5273b13ba14fd69a1687)
And just a little tip for painting : french special forces are now shown using the new camo scheme, such as those operators from the 1er RPIMA in Mali in 2013 :
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSuUF8JX0AAyAnA.jpg)
For example, here is a test model for my FS heavy sniping team (old camo on bag/helmet cover) but I must rework a little the brown for the next ones :
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/840499136226000906/20210508_100124.jpg?width=700&height=586)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/840499766643130368/20210508_100135.jpg?width=633&height=586)
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Nice painting on that sniper.
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Thank you sir !
No paint today, but just a little toy received this week-end from a french 3D printing shop :https://www.ludocortorum.fr/ (https://www.ludocortorum.fr/)
(http://www2.mgcontact.eu/pictures/albums/userpics/PANHARD_VBL-1.jpg)
It's a VBL ("véhicule blindé léger", armored light vehicle) printed in resin at 1/50 scale and shown here with a .50 machinegun. The model needs some cleaning and I must add some details as it was just built for the pic :
(https://scontent-frt3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/p640x640/186544562_112726127648640_3677752028144965358_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=KMyddC5RPowAX94yFur&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.xx&tp=6&oh=f3e515770f8ea57d927b757d17063b50&oe=60C6B21F)
(https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/187163376_112726147648638_532546029156710272_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=ZXqASPrn5HcAX97t9Gr&_nc_ht=scontent-frx5-1.xx&oh=1c81015ec57c04bc85bf03ab49cbab68&oe=60C88A9E)
and the whole "army" as it stands for now (I'm waiting for my 3rd combat group) :
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/186947488_112726174315302_5217274784745642782_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=6-x04mZq9I8AX-9eIAs&tn=UfVacf2dkLjooWoO&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=78c3d98849b8ec145d904e33dbca0cd2&oe=60C86D36)
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Looking awesome
I painted up some support weapon crews over the weekend photos to follow later in the week used a combination of Empress and JJG print miniatures
Steve
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Cool model.
I have always liked at the VBL.
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More reinforcements
Sniper team
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GMG 40mm team firing and moving
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Finally a couple of machine guns
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Nice to see more of your stuff, even on my own thread ! lol
If you want, we can run a common thread on the modern french army, it's not a problem for me.
Very good addition to you army with all those support weapon teams.
But you should fix your problem with pics as they are on the side.
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Nice to see more of your stuff, even on my own thread ! lol
If you want, we can run a common thread on the modern french army, it's not a problem for me.
Either way, both of you do nice work!
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Sorry I never noticed I had added to your thread I was reading your latest and then just added. Sorry it is a bit naughty I will make sure next time to add to my thread
I must sort out this problem
I think I need a new phone
Not sure what to add next
Steve
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It's not a problem.
But sure you must fix the problem with your pics because your minis need better ones, as they look very good.
Just a bit surprised by the automatic grenade launcher as, as far as I know, french army does not use them (maybe special forces, but I have few pics of this weapon and only on vehicles).
But nice addition, as our boys needs more firepower and they will certainly say "yes" if you want to give them this little toy ! ^^
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Even bigger problem
What to do next ?
Steve
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You take pics with your phone horizontal or vertical ?
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Vertical
Should I change to horizontal
Steve
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I think so.
Then you resize your pics and it will be OK.
Where does the GMG comes from ?
Not from Empress french range ?
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The GMG is from Empress modern British and I converted the firing figures. I then used a 2nd pack and used Empress French and converted the tripod
Steve
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I wouldn't mind adding a VAB 2R2M Mortar carrier or either a 81mm or 120mm Mortar and team
Not sure if anyone makes any of these
Steve
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Just take a look here :
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/normandyminiatures/28mm-modern-french-foreign-legion-troops (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/normandyminiatures/28mm-modern-french-foreign-legion-troops)
Mortar as a stretch goal for 7000€, but we are far from this.
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Yes I'm a backer joined on 1st day but as you say seems a long way to go
Steve
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Salut yes.
For me, I will not back this project, as I will star on the Raph/JJG Print rangé for a more uniform look.
And vehicles from Ludocortorum (wich should work on an AMX10 RCR this summer).
No mortar for me, as 120mm mortar are off table support due to the range.
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I received the minis I ordered today. They are very tiny and fiddly, but that is because I ordered them in 15mm. I haven't had a real good look but my quick cursory examination shows them to be beyond awesome. And everything survived a month and a half in transit. Now because they are very fine I have told my son they will have to be based in such a way as to really force you to pick them up by the base. Maybe I should cast them in clear plastic blocks! In any case a very satisfied customer at this time. I may go blind or have a psychotic episode painting them.
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It's a good news !
And I hope to see them painted soon !
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Thanks for all the inspiration and the information on JJG figures! Have been wanting to start gaming Mali and the Sahel in general, but was having trouble finding figures. Going to put an order in.
Chris
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Thanks for all the inspiration and the information on JJG figures! Have been wanting to start gaming Mali and the Sahel in general, but was having trouble finding figures. Going to put an order in.
Chris
What scale? Inquiring minds and all.
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What scale? Inquiring minds and all.
We’re planning skirmish games for modern, so going for 28mm.
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Here's my army as it stands today.
I received some minis and the "standard" infantry is complete (but I must add some special forces during summer) :
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/p180x540/196853465_119751500279436_5917950167733481047_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=qgPk3bKI-ggAX9GWwjx&_nc_ht=scontent-cdt1-1.xx&tp=6&oh=366100667060611476af74d4f6567d55&oe=60E3D3F6)
Infantry comes from JJG Print 3D and the VBL from Ludocortorum, all 3D printed in 28mm (or 1/50 for the VBL).
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Waiting for my next toy to come (a friend of mine printed it for me on his resin printer) :
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/854047380222771240/IMG_3537.JPG?width=1084&height=609)
The last members of the second combat group are done :
(https://i.ibb.co/ByccN48/131350056-121436256777627-8465130034931602945-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HCcCXmQ/200004326-121436280110958-2023806388352235496-n.jpg)
And the heavy sniping team too :
(https://i.ibb.co/9t9sw5Y/199448120-120859790168607-6732092784586478566-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qnRFmBK/198393860-120859996835253-5960414650296533871-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WsDpy6X/200745122-120860023501917-108280898789067706-n.jpg)
And the family picture of all the painted minis :
(https://i.ibb.co/KhwWwTB/200021012-121436300110956-6456812465798149883-n.jpg)
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Excellent result, those are really nicely done.
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Those infantry are indeed nice.
But that old mechanic next to the armored car needs to update his tool set a bit...although in the army, we had a saying "If it don't fit, use a bigger hammer!"... :D
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Those look great!
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But that old mechanic next to the armored car needs to update his tool set a bit...although in the army, we had a saying "If it don't fit, use a bigger hammer!"... :D
lol lol lol
The best mechanics is the one with the biggest hammer, sir. Even in the french army !
Don't forget those vehicles (VAB, AMX10,...) are nearly 50 years old, and still work. Hammers and chewing gum make miracles...
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The best mechanics is the one with the biggest hammer, sir. Even in the french army !
Don't forget those vehicles (VAB, AMX10,...) are nearly 50 years old, and still work. Hammers and chewing gum make miracles...
We used duct tape and baling wire. ;)
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I know, it was for the joke.
A friend of mine made 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan before leaving the army, and what he said to us was this kind of things...
Now, they have better gear, but not at this time.
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I particularly like the camo wrapping on the rifles on the sniper team, very convincing. Through and through the paintjobs are fantastic though! Looking forward to seeing the vehicles painted.
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The French have some nice SF wheeled toys.
Great to see them.
Nice painting as well.
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Thanks, guys.
The French have some nice SF wheeled toys.
For the moment, I will go with actual vehicles.
But be assured this army will receive some very SF-styled toys in the near future, such as Arquus Scarabée, Nexter Griffon et Nexter Jaguar...
Arquus Scarabee (this may be the next generation VBL) :
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzrgQObX4AYOs6f.jpg)
Nexter Griffon (as the very old VAB needs to be retired), currently delivered to the first units :
(https://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/storage/images/base-de-medias/images/dga/images-format-une/terre/griffon-2019/9707766-1-fre-FR/griffon-2019.jpg)
And the Nexter Jaguar (the successor of the AMX10RC) :
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/JGE4Yu6pm7HFX4-lzqMr4bwtsGkHdtCh1whZM3nWCAdYm10rf3n7EXSnH-S-c42L8b-T2S0533u6bbp8eUEI68lRDUhiTHOnG8MIHQdBhZCqcWV6AQ)
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Those look pretty cool. Looking forward to seeing them printed out.
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Thanks for the JJG recommendation. My order just arrived (3.5 weeks from order to arrival in the US) and I really like the figures. They are also a pretty good match for Eureka's FFL figures. Photo at the link if people are interested in the size comparison
https://photos.app.goo.gl/He3EA3ALpTDXGyY38 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/He3EA3ALpTDXGyY38)
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Agreed, they work well together.
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Thanks for the JJG recommendation. My order just arrived (3.5 weeks from order to arrival in the US) and I really like the figures. They are also a pretty good match for Eureka's FFL figures. Photo at the link if people are interested in the size comparison
https://photos.app.goo.gl/He3EA3ALpTDXGyY38 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/He3EA3ALpTDXGyY38)
Thanks for this comparison pic.
It's always difficult to estimate size of mini, and such pic is always useful.
And as I'm on LAF, I just want to show you this pic of what's coming next :
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/215045921_132779858976600_994907042587078716_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=ltbD4-rQKR8AX-0hv6f&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=c1706f4669f1878168a7e865507deba7&oe=60FB099D)
All 3D printed in resin (1/50 size).
As said, VBL is from Ludocortorum, but VBCI and AMX 10 RCR are from STL files designed bu Guaro3D (sold on Cult3D). Very good design, just need to be adjusted to the good scale.
And yes, the VBCI is really a beast !
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This all looks rather interesting
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For 1970s French, could you squint a bit and use the Empress Indochina figures by adding heads in berets. I know weapons aren’t quite right, but again, squint.
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For 1970s French, could you squint a bit and use the Empress Indochina figures by adding heads in berets. I know weapons aren’t quite right, but again, squint.
…. No…. (In my opinion)
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I think it's not a good idea uniform had some evolution in 15 years.
some exemples for Indochina (paratroopers and regular), using some US and GB camo and webbings :
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/d5/e5/43d5e5bb236b78bcbdb79b32067584a8.jpg)
(http://fr.1001mags.com/images/Couv/U/Uniformes/272/14100-Uniformes-272-Page-017.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/3e/b5/703eb56f8c721ddb632ce7eb448d070a.jpg)
for 70s, it's the model "satin", used from 1964 to 1984 :
regular :
(https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=275x1024:format=jpg/path/s9dfa2c1a12905900/image/i5c4c5ac72d7840b1/version/1600200058/image.jpg)
(https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=1920x400:format=jpg/path/s9dfa2c1a12905900/image/i10bb78a97ba9e8b3/version/1604180247/image.jpg)
paratroopers in Zaïre, 1978 :
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l140/dordor_01/Document_20090104_202051_0-1.jpg)
(https://theatrum-belli.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2e-REP-Kolwezi-1978-1.jpg)
So I will say :
- it's not really accurate, as the equipment and clothes are different,
- it seems there are no current range for french in the 70s (only late 80s, with FAMAS)
- if you want to go with Indochina war french minis, just take a look at JJG Print range here => https://www.jjgprint3d.com/page-vierge-12 (https://www.jjgprint3d.com/page-vierge-12)
- it's your minis, so just do what you want and enjoy the game ! :D
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Little update using this thread, as it's modern french soldiers, but this time for commission work...
First minis for 1er RPIMa, using US Rangers Spectre Miniature range, and painted in the new french BME camo scheme :
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/1064241227186315395/20230115_182322.jpg?width=786&height=609)
And inspiration pics :
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/1064241272929394710/a528728734957b90c7162360cd594d8e.jpg?width=609&height=609)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/1064243196198129724/1a-BME-ES22-1667.jpg?width=406&height=609)
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Great work throughout the thread! 🇫🇷
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Love those last 2 guys. I think you nailed the camo scheme...
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Nice work on those Spectre figures.
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Very nice work!
Will you be continuing you're project on Modern French army??
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Will you be continuing you're project on Modern French army??
Not yet, as I'm on other projects (mainly Infinity, a roman army for SAGA and some planes for Blood Red Skies), but the project is not dead.
But for today, more work done on the french special forces, with 2 more operators, and 3 "civilians" from french secret service ("service action" de la DGSE).
All minis from the Spectre Miniature range :
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773259559464337418/1069310008107474965/20230129_105844.jpg?width=1136&height=609)
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Beautifully done! I must ask. Which one is the OSS 117/ Jean Dujardin character? ;)
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Those guys do look good...
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A warning. I paid Normandie Miniatures some $300 and they sent NOTHING and refused to respond to emails. It's been about 2 1/2 years. They have had plenty of time to fill my order.
Do not do business with them.