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Miniatures Adventure => Interwar => Topic started by: Trebian on March 06, 2021, 11:00:27 AM
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Just published my latest set of rules "For Whom The Dice Rolls". These cover Brigade/Divisional actions in the Spanish Civil War. There's a description of what you need and how they work here: https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/p/for-whom-dice-rolls-description.html (https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/p/for-whom-dice-rolls-description.html). You can get them at Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Whom-Dice-Rolls-Tabletop-Wargames/dp/B08X63FHT3/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=For+Whom+The+Dice+Rolls&qid=1615027981&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Whom-Dice-Rolls-Tabletop-Wargames/dp/B08X63FHT3/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=For+Whom+The+Dice+Rolls&qid=1615027981&sr=8-1) or as a pdf from Wargame Vault: https://www.wargamevault.com/product/347931/For-Whom-The-Dice-Rolls (https://www.wargamevault.com/product/347931/For-Whom-The-Dice-Rolls). Price is £14.99 for 100 page colour rule book, and there's a free down load with a couple of scenarios also available. The "Wargaming for Grown Ups" blog has quite a few AARs of games played as the rules were being developed https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/2021/02/guadalajara-revisted-revisted.html (https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/2021/02/guadalajara-revisted-revisted.html).
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Trebian, I purchased them last week and must say they look very interesting. The bibliography has already proved useful and I am already planning to expand my 15mm collection with some judicious purchases from Peter Pig and Minairons.
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Trebian, I purchased them last week and must say they look very interesting. The bibliography has already proved useful and I am already planning to expand my 15mm collection with some judicious purchases from Peter Pig and Minairons.
That's encouraging, and good to know. I'll take "interesting" as a comment!
BTW Always happy to post pictures of other people's games and figures on my blog and answer questions. You can contact me via the email address in the back of the rules.
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Trebian, I have a small test game planned for next weekend so I will try to remember to drop you a line afterwards. My hope is to get my small group of gaming mates to each adopt and paint a "faction". We did this for Wars of the Roses and it proved quit successful.
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Trebian, I have a small test game planned for next weekend so I will try to remember to drop you a line afterwards. My hope is to get my small group of gaming mates to each adopt and paint a "faction". We did this for Wars of the Roses and it proved quit successful.
That sounds great. Beware of overdoing too many factions in each army, or your Army Effectiveness will plummet! I think the brigades with the integral weapons and support arms are interesting forces to model. A bit of everything. The Basques have nice berets and some odd looking AFVs. And a cool looking flag.
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Sooo, it can be used using FoW basing?
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Sooo, it can be used using FoW basing?
I'd say so. And Peter Pig/BAIT basing. This may not be a coincidence.
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I'd say so. And Peter Pig/BAIT basing. This may not be a coincidence.
And it works via activations ala Blitzkrieg commader/epic armaggedon?
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And it works via activations ala Blitzkrieg commader/epic armaggedon?
Not exactly. There's a description of how it works here: https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/p/for-whom-dice-rolls-description.html (https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/p/for-whom-dice-rolls-description.html)
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Not exactly. There's a description of how it works here: https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/p/for-whom-dice-rolls-description.html (https://wargaming4grownups.blogspot.com/p/for-whom-dice-rolls-description.html)
I have read it but don't quite understand it: does it mean that during your turn you activate all your units and then the other player does the same?
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I have read it but don't quite understand it: does it mean that during your turn you activate all your units and then the other player does the same?
I'll need to revise it then! In your turn you get to activate a number of your units, based upon the command cards you have. Each unit can do up to 3 actions in a turn. You can use up to 6 activations at a time for any units you have - subject to restrictions - depending upon how good your army is. The turn then passes to your opponent who does the same, before the turn passes back to you. The turn passes back and forth until one side or the other runs out of cards. Then re-deal the cards and start again.
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Then it isn't a IGOUGO in the traditional sense, isn't it? :)
I have a pair of huge, FoW based 15mm armies (nationalist army and republican militia) which are waiting for a ruleset. I built both for Spain in Flames but i didn't really like the rules (the full IGOUGO stuff makes me feel i'm playing WH40k in 1936!). If the rules cover more or less forces of the same size as in FoW you can count me in for sure.
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Then it isn't a IGOUGO in the traditional sense, isn't it? :)
No. That's why I turned the phrase "integrated IGOUGO", as you can't interfere (normally) when an opponent is activating, and play alternates between the players. Hope you enjoy them. My email is in the book if you have any questions.
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Are the additional rules integrated in the paperback? and when will it be available again (be it via amazon, lulu or whatever)
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Are the additional rules integrated in the paperback? and when will it be available again (be it via amazon, lulu or whatever)
There are no additional rules. It's all in the same volume, which you can get from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08X63FHT3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08X63FHT3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
There's a Resources pack to download with odd bits and pieces such as scenarios and game markers in them, which is on the blog. That's free. I kept them out of the book to keep the page count and price down. They're helpful but not essential.
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There are no additional rules. It's all in the same volume, which you can get from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08X63FHT3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08X63FHT3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
It says it's out of stock (i would have bought it by now if not for that issue)
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Trebbian, going back to the question posed by Yuber Okami. I get the bit about each unit can activate up to 3 times, but after one unit has activated does "activation" pass to the other side so it is basically "alternate unit activation". I discussed this with my opponent for this weekend's game and we both interpreted the rules differently. That said really looking forward to it!
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It says it's out of stock (i would have bought it by now if not for that issue)
Which Amazon site are you ordering from? It's is print on demand, so some locations show out of stock until someone orders one.
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Trebbian, going back to the question posed by Yuber Okami. I get the bit about each unit can activate up to 3 times, but after one unit has activated does "activation" pass to the other side so it is basically "alternate unit activation". I discussed this with my opponent for this weekend's game and we both interpreted the rules differently. That said really looking forward to it!
Have a look again at page 27, para iii. It says: "The card played enables the player to perform ONE action with ONE unit. A unit may be ordered to perform more than one action, up to a maximum of THREE in any turn. The player may activate a number of units, switching between them if desired as long as the same suit is played." You can activate as many units as you like within your card suit run. Over the page, on p28 it says: "The suit sequence can spread across more than one brigade if desired. Once a player has either run out of cards in the suit being played, or they reach their Army Effectiveness, or if they so choose, their turn pauses, and play passes to the opponent". There's nowhere that it says alternate between units on each side, I think. If there is, please point me at it, so I can correct the wording.
For your first game here's some advice:
1) Just because you can move three times and cover half the board in a turn doesn't mean it's a good idea. Don't blame me or the rules if you try it and come unstuck.
2) Getting caught standing around in the open is not a good idea. Getting caught moving in the open is even worse.
3) Close assaulting troops in buildings is really hard.
4) Artillery and mortar use is key. It doesn't normally normally kill much, but it pins and restricts your opponent's movement very severely. Use this to your advantage.
5) Armour is great, but don't get separated from your supporting infantry.
6) Re-organisation will keep your units in the game. Think about when you are likely to need to do so, and plan for it.
7) Co-ordinating artillery strikes across more than one unit with the extra card(s) can be much more effective, as every one gets the first round firing effects.
8) Where you can, hold back an activation per unit if you think you are going to end up near the enemy.
9) Don't leave your jokers to last in the turn. They get you extra command cards too.
10) Don't be surprised if this plays really differently to other WW2 style games you have played. It's supposed to.
Enjoy your game at the weekend. Email me if you have questions, and let me have some photographs.
Graham
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Which Amazon site are you ordering from? It's is print on demand, so some locations show out of stock until someone orders one.
Amazon UK. It doesn't even appear in Amazon Spain, and I can't order it in the UK page. I just ordered it via Amazon US
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Amazon UK. It doesn't even appear in Amazon Spain, and I can't order it in the UK page. I just ordered it via Amazon US
It is on Amazon.es. Check out my Author Page https://www.amazon.es/Graham-Evans/e/B07PY977QB/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 (https://www.amazon.es/Graham-Evans/e/B07PY977QB/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1) Can you cancel your order from the US?
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It is on Amazon.es. Check out my Author Page https://www.amazon.es/Graham-Evans/e/B07PY977QB/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 (https://www.amazon.es/Graham-Evans/e/B07PY977QB/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1) Can you cancel your order from the US?
Wow!
Yes, I could cancel it. You just saved me 12 €!
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Wow!
Yes, I could cancel it. You just saved me 12 €!
Hey! Go mad! Spend it on one of my other books! lol
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Some rules Qs:
pg 28 card use,line 1: 2-6 cards are the maximum and minimum card plays for an activation set. Last line same paragraph a player cannot end their turn without playing at least 1 card. I assume you must play 2-6 but if you only have 1 left that is OK. I am also assuming that air asset runs of cards could be more than 6 (although unlikely).
pg 66 air strike examples; medium bombers roll 436221 but put 12 blast markers; I only see 5* hits at 2+. Light bombers roll 436221 with 4 blast markers at 4+. I only see 2 hits. Rules state 1 blast per hit
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Thanks for taking the time tov read the rules and ask questions.
Some rules Qs:
pg 28 card use,line 1: 2-6 cards are the maximum and minimum card plays for an activation set. Last line same paragraph a player cannot end their turn without playing at least 1 card. I assume you must play 2-6 but if you only have 1 left that is OK. I am also assuming that air asset runs of cards could be more than 6 (although unlikely).
The maximum cards you can play is the Army Effectiveness, which has a maximum value of 6 or a minimum value of 2. The use of "minimum" refers to Army Effectiveness not card playing. You can choose to play only one card regardless of your Army Effectiveness. And you are right on the Off Table asset cards. They are not part of the card suit run, and are an adjunct to playing a Joker.
pg 66 air strike examples; medium bombers roll 436221 but put 12 blast markers; I only see 5* hits at 2+. Light bombers roll 436221 with 4 blast markers at 4+. I only see 2 hits. Rules state 1 blast per hit
Rules state one blast marker per "pip" greater than the base score for the type of plane. 6 is 5 "pips" more than 1.
Hope that is clear.
Trebian
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I played some games in 6mm. A bit fiddly but it worked out OK. https://blackshawgaming.wordpress.com/2021/05/01/for-whom-the-dice-rolls-in-6mm/ (https://blackshawgaming.wordpress.com/2021/05/01/for-whom-the-dice-rolls-in-6mm/)
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Great report! I will pick up on your comments in due course - doing a Zoom conference today. Is it okay to post links to the blog from Facebook and TMP if you haven't already?
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Link as you feel fit although it is already linked on TMP