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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Tonhel on April 01, 2021, 09:11:30 PM
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Hello,
This is the start of a painting log about 11th century Spanish and adversaries.
Last week I finally convinced myself and most importantly my wife to buy a 3D printer. :D In short I am blown away by it. It don't understand how it works. It's magic :D But you don't have mould lines, no gaps to fill and it looks imo fantastic.
Here is the start of my two first knights. I didn't design the mini's, I've got them from here https://www.patreon.com/caballerominiatures/posts (https://www.patreon.com/caballerominiatures/posts)
Here are pictures before and after the dark grey undercoat.
The next couple of days I will start painting them!
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/8t8iesm45mmz8z2/1.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/k72izbmycgoayis/2.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ibgdbq3d8t1ois/3.jpg?dl=1)
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Resin printer? Amazing quality!
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Resin printer? Amazing quality!
Yes, I printed it with a Phrozen Sonic mini 4K. It was my second try. Everything went much easier than expected. Installing the printer, using the resin and etc... The printing itself does take a couple of hours. The result is great and easy to assemble. i.e. it was only the horse, the knight and the shield. For the next batch I will take more pictures of the different steps.
I never thought 3D printing was so easy. :o
The above two and these will be the project for april:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xyy2v4tbi6p7npx/4.jpg?dl=1)
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These figures look absolutely sensational. Most dynamic cavalry I've ever seen.
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Maybe this interesting for people that are thinking about getting a 3D printer:
I am preparing the next group of knights to be printed:
You have to use a free program called Chitubox. In this program you place the 3d models digital on the print bed (the blue rectangle). The size depends on how big your printer is.
You can place as many 3D models you have room. I managed to get the 9 unique knights on it + 4 spearheads that will be used on brass rods.
After that you have to manage your settings and push the slice button. This will take a couple of minutes and after that you have the save it on a usb stick. Put the usb stick in the printer. Select the file and print it.
It sounds difficult, but it is not much more work than uploading a photo on a forum. ;)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xxyf9at6g2zpnzv/5.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/sknylwchkk4izb3/6.JPG?dl=1)
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It sounds difficult, but it is not much more work than uploading a photo on a forum. ;)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xxyf9at6g2zpnzv/5.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/sknylwchkk4izb3/6.JPG?dl=1)
Unfortunately the images aren’t showing on my phone, the only device I can access. The fact that others can see them demonstrates there was no problem in uploading them, but isn’t particularly encouraging for someone as technophobic as me.
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Unfortunately the images aren’t showing on my phone, the only device I can access. The fact that others can see them demonstrates there was no problem in uploading them, but isn’t particularly encouraging for someone as technophobic as me.
Oei, I use dropbox to upload them. If there are other people that can't see, I will need to fix it. ;-)
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I hope you can. I’d love to see them.
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I can see them on my pc., and quite amazing they are too.
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Excellent!
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It seems that on a mobile phone you can't see the pictures. I will find a solution when I start showing the painted mini's. ;-)
The sculptor of those beautiful Spanish knights also previewed the first mini that will be available in May. A mounted Almoravid. Imo, very impressive!
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dtp63xtk1nq5z5/8.png?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ii70jg4rsxwe5hw/9.png?dl=1)
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WOW looks amazing, makes me reconsider getting a 3D printer meself :D
whats the cost of the final mini, compared what you can get by mail done and ready? I mean the many miniature manufacturers out there in the world ???
Makes me also think about when you print infantry minis, and the horses, why not print the base, and when your printing the base, why not make it scenic in one go? then just ad paint ;)
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WOW looks amazing, makes me reconsider getting a 3D printer meself :D
whats the cost of the final mini, compared what you can get by mail done and ready? I mean the many miniature manufacturers out there in the world ???
Makes me also think about when you print infantry minis, and the horses, why not print the base, and when your printing the base, why not make it scenic in one go? then just ad paint ;)
It's now two weeks that I have my 3D printer and I am very happy with it. I did have some problems, but that was my fault. You can change a lot in the print settings, which can backfire ;). You have to take in account the resin you will use for the print settings and etc.. . But now I am happy with the settings. :)
I also forget to remove the protective cover from the FEP folie.. Which caused bad prints. It took a couple of days before I figured it out. Stupid, stupid mistake :o :D.
But now it's easy. Load the models in Chitubox, slice and save on a usb stick and place the usb stick in the printer and voila a couple of hours later the mini's are ready.
The only expensive cost is the printer. I bought the Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K for 399 euro and 50 euro for the resin.
If you compare the two mini's form post 1 with 2 cavalry models from V&V miniatures. A V&V resin Norman cavalry cost 7,5 euro without postage. I think it costs me around 0,20 euro per printed Spanish mounted knights, which I can keep printing and have less parts to assemble.
I subscrided to the Caballero Miniatures patreon which is 6,5 euro + VAT per month. This month you received the digital files for 5 unique spear armed mounted knights, a mounted musician, a standard bearer, a mounted El Cid and a bonus 13th century knight.
I think it's a great deal for 6,50 euro + 0,20 euro per mounted mini. ;-)
Here is a picture of the printed 13th century knight (still needs to be cleaned).
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/pd67t20mnm2jpx5/8.jpg?dl=1)
My two first Spanish knights are almost finished.
Only thing that needs to be finished is highlighting the metal, base it and take proper pictures. :)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/9wwswr1ghs9n3bp/9.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozk5r0nu1xkoe8a/10.jpg?dl=1)
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The only expensive cost is the printer. I bought the Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K for 399 euro and 50 euro for the resin.
If you compare the two mini's form post 1 with 2 cavalry models from V&V miniatures. A V&V resin Norman cavalry cost 7,5 euro without postage. I think it costs me around 0,20 euro per printed Spanish mounted knights, which I can keep printing and have less parts to assemble.
I subscrided to the Caballero Miniatures patreon which is 6,5 euro + VAT per month. This month you received the digital files for 5 unique spear armed mounted knights, a mounted musician, a standard bearer, a mounted El Cid and a bonus 13th century knight.
I think it's a great deal for 6,50 euro + 0,20 euro per mounted mini. ;-)
Those are extremely nice miniatures and the printing is excellent. Thanks for the information. :-* :-*
However I don't think your calculations take into account the cost of the initial set up. You will have to print around 70 figures before you break even. Thereafter each additional model will be a fraction of the cost of buying metal figures, especially when you also factor in postage etc. Overall if the printer stands up to the task, and the ranges continue to expand, I think you will have made a sound investment. Who knows I might even follow your example. :D
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These look really well. Is there a lot of work cleaning them up? There looked to be a lot of "struts" in the 3d renders you showed a few images back. Do they come off pretty easy when printed?
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Those are extremely nice miniatures and the printing is excellent. Thanks for the information. :-* :-*
However I don't think your calculations take into account the cost of the initial set up. You will have to print around 70 figures before you break even. Thereafter each additional model will be a fraction of the cost of buying metal figures, especially when you also factor in postage etc. Overall if the printer stands up to the task, and the ranges continue to expand, I think you will have made a sound investment. Who knows I might even follow your example. :D
Yes, the printer is a huge cost and it was a gamble. As I knew absolutly nothing about 3D printing. The reason I bought it was because I couldn't resist those Spanish knights anymore. For me that patreon alone justifies the investment. If you are also into fantasy miniatures, for that there is a huge selection of Patreons / 3D files.
Another benefit is that you print the miniatures as many times as you want. I am going to make a skirmish retinue, but also an army for Swordpoint. So I will print the mini's twice. One part based on round and pilbox bases and than again for 40x40mm and 50x50mm bases. :)
These look really well. Is there a lot of work cleaning them up? There looked to be a lot of "struts" in the 3d renders you showed a few images back. Do they come off pretty easy when printed?
No, it's a bit more work than a very good metal cast (I.e Claymore Castings). The benefit is that there is only the rider and the mount. There are no other parts. This is because the sculptor doesn't have think about the layout / design for a mould.
The supports are very easy to remove. But you have to do it before curing.
Curing: After it's printed and cleaned in alcohol. it needs to be placed a couple of minutes in UV lights (i.e outside in the sun).
So before the curing phase, but after the cleaning in alcohol. You need to place the mini's in hot water and than you can easly remove it. It's easier than removing parts from a plastic sprue. If you wait after curing it's the same as removing from a plastic sprue.
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I’ve now been able to see the images on a computer at the library. I’m not sure this qualifies as ‘essential use’ but it worked for me. I wonder if they’ll ever get a 3D printer in?
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The two first knights are finished! : :)
They hail from the kingdom of Aragon!
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk608i987j6gr74/11.jpg?dl=1)
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Wonderful. :-* :-*
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They really are very nice.
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Both are awesome, love the little detail on the blue shield with the "rope" bits flying, makes it very dynamic.
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Looking good
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Lovely work all 'round but the horseflesh really stands out as excellent :-*
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Beautiful :-*
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apart from these amazing sculpts and paintjobs, i also love your bases
What products do you use? the plants look amazing!
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Thank you all for the nice comments! :)
apart from these amazing sculpts and paintjobs, i also love your bases
What products do you use? the plants look amazing!
I have bought them from here:
https://www.dioramapresepe.com/en/shop/?fbclid=IwAR0RwUuQmJeH_vgxplEtqYx7CDrV-wAhNGhzyT6fv_4y_WeLyQcO0vZMaD8
The choice of diffent plants is mindblowing :o
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yes indeed, was already thinking its one of their products...
really beautiful!
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Lovely brushwork! And I‘ve got to agree with Atheling on the horses, except that sane horses don’t have white eyes, you usually only see black.
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Lovely brushwork! And I‘ve got to agree with Atheling on the horses, except that sane horses don’t have white eyes, you usually only see black.
Lol, you are right. :D I will need to correct that. ;)
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Fabulous sculpts with a great paint job! Does the horse come attached to a base?
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Fabulous sculpts with a great paint job! Does the horse come attached to a base?
Thank you. :)
There is no base attached to the horse.
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My next knight will be finished early this week.
But look at the May release! :-* What to paint first?
(https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/173133168_166286225397184_6981494364467897650_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=_ufqiRuOzFkAX9DcUVt&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&oh=c528f8abe745d6fc62aed83b47fb6e21&oe=60B3E299)
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Clearly, you paint the infantry/ standard bearer/ Almoravid horseman and Ramon Berenguer first. Probably.
I’ve now got some of these on the way. Exciting stuff!
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Clearly, you paint the infantry/ standard bearer/ Almoravid horseman and Ramon Berenguer first. Probably.
I’ve now got some of these on the way. Exciting stuff!
Great to hear! You will enjoy it! :D
I will start painting in that order. ;)
But first I need to finish this one:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsz92trhhhc2nv7/12.jpg?dl=1)
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They are a bit special. I'd love to have one in my hand to see what's what.
Unfortunately I don't have a 3D printer, have even less of an idea of what exactly to do with a 3D printer to get to to erm.... print etc etc. lol
Are the models available from anywhere to buy printed out?
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They are a bit special. I'd love to have one in my hand to see what's what.
Unfortunately I don't have a 3D printer, have even less of an idea of what exactly to do with a 3D printer to get to to erm.... print etc etc. lol
Are the models available from anywhere to buy printed out?
He sells them on ebay:
https://www.benl.ebay.be/sch/georgiosgalazoulas/m.html?item=254958704410&hash=item3b5cb9171a%3Ag%3AcM4AAOSwYJVgg4MH&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
There are also a couple of 3D printing companies that sell them, but they are located in the US.
https://two-idiots-printing-service.myshopify.com/ (I have ordered from them, before I got my 3D printer and the quality is good)
It depends on the resin you use, but the prints I did are more durable than resin and metal and I have also the impression that it's a bit more sturdier than plastic.
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He sells them on ebay:
https://www.benl.ebay.be/sch/georgiosgalazoulas/m.html?item=254958704410&hash=item3b5cb9171a%3Ag%3AcM4AAOSwYJVgg4MH&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
There are also a couple of 3D printing companies that sell them, but they are located in the US.
https://two-idiots-printing-service.myshopify.com/ (I have ordered from them, before I got my 3D printer and the quality is good)
It depends on the resin you use, but the prints I did are more durable than resin and metal and I have also the impression that it's a bit more sturdier than plastic.
Wow! Not cheap! That's three times the price one would pay for metals over here in the UK. Postage on top of that too :( Granted there is much more variation and life in these miniatures so I can certainly see the attraction. I might buy a few and see how I go- maybe for a vignette or two :)
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Wow! Not cheap! That's three times the price one would pay for metals over here in the UK. Postage on top of that too :( Granted there is much more variation and life in these miniatures so I can certainly see the attraction. I might buy a few and see how I go- maybe for a vignette or two :)
It's only cheaper than metal when you print it yourself. Otherwise it is way more expensive than metal figures. The only big cost is the printer, but after that the mini's are really cheap to print. The resin is the only cost. Around 0,20 euro for a mounted figure.
I am looking forward to buy some Victrix Normans and see how they compare scale wise. Altough with the production time of plastic sets, I will have a huge variety of Spanish / Almoravids troops types before Victrix releases their Norman Cavalry.
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I really like this part. Seems useful for a lot of different stuff.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozztr19z0u6aec9/13.JPG?dl=1)
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So, bearing in mind that I have no experience of 3D prints, how easy is it to remove the supports?
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Atheling, I have three mates you have 3-D printers. They all say that unless you are really going to get into it, and understand the "engineering" behind it, be careful. It is almost a hobby in its own right. Obviously lots of people are buying them but I am being cautious.
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So, bearing in mind that I have no experience of 3D prints, how easy is it to remove the supports?
Imo easy, ofcourse not so easy as i.e a Claymore Casting Early HYW mini, but those casts are perfect.
After printing, I clean in alcohol, than wash it in water, than in hot water to weaken the supports and than I remove it. Mostly it's very easy to remove. All in all, it's around the same time as removing parts from a plastic sprue, but with the benefit that there almost no seperate parts.
Atheling, I have three mates you have 3-D printers. They all say that unless you are really going to get into it, and understand the "engineering" behind it, be careful. It is almost a hobby in its own right. Obviously lots of people are buying them but I am being cautious.
Yes and no. I can only speak about my experiences. I bought my first printer (Phrozen Sonic mini 4k with Phrozen 4K resin) late march and I use chitibox. The most difficult part is the settings in Chitibox combined with the resin you chose. In the beginning I had perfect prints and than I started to experiment with the settings. It was a bad idea. ;) Now I use my first settings and everything works great.
But SJWi is correct that if you want to understand the "engineering" and all the settings than it's a hobby on itself. But for me it is place the models in chitibox, slice and save it on usb. Turn on the printer, chose the file and print. So now it's easy. ;)
These are currently my settings:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0jg27xszfvhz4vz/14.png?dl=1)
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Thanks Tonhel,
Yeah, I think the 3Dprpinting thing all a bit over my head at the moment.
It is something that I want to look into and will certainly come back to.
SJWi, it isn't something that I'm looking to invest in at present. I was asking about buying the models already printed. I assume they would be sent with the supports attached?
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Thanks Tonhel,
Yeah, I think the 3Dprpinting thing all a bit over my head at the moment.
It is something that I want to look into and will certainly come back to.
SJWi, it isn't something that I'm looking to invest in at present. I was asking about buying the models already printed. I assume they would be sent with the supports attached?
The two idiot printing service is with support attached. I think that the mini's on ebay have the supports removed, but I am not 100% certain.
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The two idiot printing service is with support attached. I think that the mini's on ebay have the supports removed, but I am not 100% certain.
Thanks again. I'll enquire later :)
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Typically when you order a 3D print they remove the supports themselves prior to shipping. With Resin printers I would recommend this as it is easier to get a smooth removal before setting the resin under the UV light. This will still leave some bits to clean up after, but less likely to take small chunks out if you do it this way.
Resin printing is not push a button and go. It is also very messy with unique needs (it requires ppe that FDM does not).
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They are a bit special. I'd love to have one in my hand to see what's what.
Unfortunately I don't have a 3D printer, have even less of an idea of what exactly to do with a 3D printer to get to to erm.... print etc etc. lol
Are the models available from anywhere to buy printed out?
Hi Darrell, I’ve got some on the way, I’ll see if I can send you a spare over to have a look at. There is a definite need for UK based 3d printing services and I know that various people are looking at developing this.
From what I’ve seen, I’d agree with the comment that running a 3d printer is almost like a hobby in its own right. I won’t be getting one soon but will definitely look into local printing options.
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Hi Darrell, I’ve got some on the way, I’ll see if I can send you a spare over to have a look at. There is a definite need for UK based 3d printing services and I know that various people are looking at developing this.
That's really kind of tyou James and if you have any spare I would love to see/feel etc.... that just sounded wrong but you know what I mean lol
From what I’ve seen, I’d agree with the comment that running a 3d printer is almost like a hobby in its own right. I won’t be getting one soon but will definitely look into local printing options.
I've been thinking about it for making terrain.... maybe even commercially but I'm really don't know enough to invest. not only that, in making the models, I would not at all be certain of what would print and what would be a damp squib. I need to find out more but it's time away from the painting desk ??? :o ???
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The third knight is almost done. I just need to base it. Although not so happy about the horse. I tried painting a black horse and alas it was way more difficult than I expected. So I have to redo the horse when I am better in painting black horses lol.
Now a question: I really like those printed Spanish 11th century troops, but what would you think would be great to have 3d designed? Even if you don't have a 3D printer and have zero interest in such a printer. ;)
I find it difficult. I was thinking about personal retinues for the three leaders of the third crusade. Each retinue around 10 men. I.e King Philippe II Auguste with his standard bearer, a couple of household knights and etc.
I am interested in what you think :)
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For me, the last stand of some huscarls at Hastings.
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For me, the last stand of some huscarls at Hastings.
Yes, that would be nice. ;)
Update time.
I've taken the time to take pictures of the knight I finished last week. A random Spanish knight. ;) (Is the picture not do dark?)
Now I am working on a couple of infantry, that will become the start of my retinue lead by Berenguer Ramon II "the Fratricide", who received imo a very cool miniature.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/tlo207si0kw57zy/14.JPG?dl=1)
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Wow! These are amazing. I have an FDM printer which is great for terrain, but have been nervous about the toxicity with resin printers.
PS: How does the base file scale with other manufacturers like Gripping Beast or Perry? Did you have to rescale at all? Thanks for the info!
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Wow! These are amazing. I have an FDM printer which is great for terrain, but have been nervous about the toxicity with resin printers.
PS: How does the base file scale with other manufacturers like Gripping Beast or Perry? Did you have to rescale at all? Thanks for the info!
I can't say much about the toxicity? I try to keep the room well ventilated and don't stay in the room when it's printing. Atleast I don't smell anything.
At 100% they are much bigger than the footsore Normans, but those are also a bit small. They are a bit taller than Victrix Saxons and Vikings. Although the heads of the Victrix mini's are bigger.
I am now working on a couple of infantry. When finished I will post scale pictures with Footsore and Victrix.
I have also printed the infantry at 90% for use in Swordpoint. Now they are more or less the same size as the Footsore Normans. But Footsore Normans have bigger hands. Scale pictures will follow when I painted a Swordpoint base.
I think for the best match with Victrix would be printing on size 95%. I will certainly do a test print on that scale when I have finished the ones I've printed now.
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Update:
My first base for my cavalry unit is ready. It's a casualt scene.
The pictures are way to dark. Next time I will try with a white background, so the colours look more as I painted it :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/52c5y1or6suw46l/15.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/5m0qnckpirv9ha3/16.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/thhiyte74db0y9d/17.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/6fvaqweu06rj6mq/18.jpg?dl=1)
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Lovely piece :-*
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Lovely piece :-*
Thank you! The next one will be painted as you adviced in another thread. ;)
Here are pictures in daylight.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/in280963sd38d31/19.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/k9o2w1pxunu6jp4/20.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbozifexer9sntm/21.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/k56nokgtv1bpfwl/22.jpg?dl=1)
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Excellent :-*
I'm very impressed by the shape of the Caballeros Hidalgos' shield, it's exactly the right shape with the convex form. 8)
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Really lovely printing and painting, Tonhel. Seeing this thread for the first time and look forward to seeing more!
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Nice vignette and excellent painting.
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Really tremendous. May I ask, are the figures quite fragile and brittle? I ask because in the past I've bought some resin figures from a manufacturer, and although the figures have been extremely well-detailed and very sharp, they have been very easily broken.
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Thank you! :)
Really tremendous. May I ask, are the figures quite fragile and brittle? I ask because in the past I've bought some resin figures from a manufacturer, and although the figures have been extremely well-detailed and very sharp, they have been very easily broken.
Maybe it depends what kind of resin is used? The mini's I have printed (Resin Phrozen 4K) are imo stronger than i.e the V&V miniatures and have the same sturdiness as i.e Victrix and Perry plastics. I've printed a salamander (Lizardmen) and that is atleast as Games Workshop plastic monsters.
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That casualty vignette is superb. :-* :-* :-*
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So a tried painting a spearmen, but now without using a shade wash (mix of Agrax Eartshade and Lahmian.)
I have to say that I prefer this more than using the above wash mix.
Now I want to repaint my casualty scene lol , but first I need to finish everything from the months april, may and june. :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/unz6jkq7255t1wd/23.jpg?dl=1)
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Update:
6 wip spearmen. I still need to finish more spearmen. Than I need to do the shields and spears. Assemble them, add them to 40x40 mm bases and finish them. I quite like them. Although the close ups are always a bit of a shock :D
I have also painted the first mini for my command on foot (shield still needs to be added).
The army will be under the command of Berenguer Ramon II, Count of Barcelona.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/unz6jkq7255t1wd/23.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0x57073baw5r6s/24.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0x4vhq4237cqkv/25.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/qjn2mmkuf7xvrov/27.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ru4hf95xeabbdbx/26.jpg?dl=1)
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Lovely work Tonhel :-* :-* :-*
I had a but of a metanoia moment when I saw some of these models in the flesh yesterday! An immediate conversion on my part if you will excuse the pun :)
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Lovely painting on some gorgeous minis. :-* :-* :-*
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Fantastic paintjobs! Look forward to see more :-*
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Not painted yet, as it is a test print the sculptor asked me to do. It still needs cleaning, but I am blown away by it. I also finetuned my printer settings a bit more. Look at the small detail in the helmet. :)
This is going to be my currently unnamed warrior-bishop :-D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3foe70q5uursv5v/28.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehltart48es3wci/29.JPG?dl=1)
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That is a great outcome for your printer. Fabulous detail. :-* :-*
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Yeah, that is amazing quality. Hard to imagine a few years ago being able to produce figures of that quality in your home.
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OK, slightly OT but seeing as we're on the subject of Caballero 3D printed miniatures I have a question.
What is the best way to clean up the miniatures before priming and undercoating?
I have heard use 99% alcohol then dry in the Sun (which might difficult at times in the UK) ???
What do you all think (please)?
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That looks superb
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The bishop looks marvellous, and very holy. :)
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OK, slightly OT but seeing as we're on the subject of Caballero 3D printed miniatures I have a question.
What is the best way to clean up the miniatures before priming and undercoating?
I have heard use 99% alcohol then dry in the Sun (which might difficult at times in the UK) ???
What do you all think (please)?
After the print I clean it in 99% alchohol, than drop them in clean water, than warm water. After that I remove very carefully the support. Because of the warm water the supports are even softer, but the drawback is that small delicate parts are also more delicate.
Than I place them for a couple of minutes in the sun and I turn them one or twice. ;-)
But the sun is indeed a problem, last time I had to wait two days before I had proper sun light (Belgium). ;-)
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After the print I clean it in 99% alchohol, than drop them in clean water, than warm water. After that I remove very carefully the support. Because of the warm water the supports are even softer, but the drawback is that small delicate parts are also more delicate.
Than I place them for a couple of minutes in the sun and I turn them one or twice. ;-)
But the sun is indeed a problem, last time I had to wait two days before I had proper sun light (Belgium). ;-)
I received the models with the supports have already been removed so it would just be 99% alcohol and then soap and water?
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I received the models with the supports have already been removed so it would just be 99% alcohol and then soap and water?
If the supports are already removed, I would assume they were already washed in alcohol and cured? If yes, only soap and water is needed. If not, than first alcohol wash, than curing and soap and water.
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If the supports are already removed, I would assume they were already washed in alcohol and cured?
I really don't know. I'll have to contact the chao who sent me the models and ask.
if yes, only soap and water is needed. If not, than first alcohol wash, than curing and soap and water.
That's the plan Tohhel. Thanks for the input- appreciated :)
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The bishop is absolutely mega and your print is the business.
Has he got anything marking him out as a bishop apart from the crucifix? I fancy he might work as a generic lord.
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The bishop is absolutely mega and your print is the business.
Has he got anything marking him out as a bishop apart from the crucifix? I fancy he might work as a generic lord.
I don't think so, the only thing I can think off that he maybe is more suited for mid to late 12th century instead of late 11th century because of the surcoat, but I am still going to use him for my 11th century retinue. ;)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ninom9g80t6cji2/30.JPG?dl=1)
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Wow! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Wow indeed.
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Hello,
My first unit for the Barons' War ruleset is finished (kinda :D).
Currently their Dark Ages supplement isn't released yet, when it's released I will base it on the Norman armylist.
This is a guard unit. So imo well equiped spearmen with a command group.
For the command group I used the veteran sergeant stats and his equipment is mail, sword and large shield + pennant and priest upgrade. (The priest isn't finished yet, currently I am painting a Footsore late Saxon priest who will be added until Caballero miniatures releases a suitable miniature. ;))
For the guard unit I use the foot sergeants rules and they are equiped with mail, spear and large shield.
For the unit the veteran sergeant represents a dismounted Caballero Villanos.
The shields are Victrix shield from their Saxon set.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc97eo1gwmwftwv/31.jpg?dl=1)
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Fab work Tonhel :-*
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Great looking unit
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Hello,
I finally finished a second unit of spearmen and a lonely knight. These are unarmoured and equiped with spear and round shield (medium shield). The knight is equiped with mail, kite shiel (large shield), spear and sword.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/g24odbzty69k957/34.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ird0qnscsihutrp/35.jpg?dl=1)
I am still planning to use them with the Barons' War ruleset.
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Lovely work Tonhel :-*
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Thank you Atheling!
Update:
I was lucky to do a test print for a priest that will be part of the november release. I printed him two times. In his right hand he holds the corss of Pelagius.
I painted both with simultaneously with the same colours. The difference is that for the left one I used a stippling method (first time) and the right one I painted as I always paint. It was fun to do. I really like this mini!
The first picture is a bit unsharp, but the second is sharp.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/2q7qytykam70zu7/36.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/f3v6dzfkcimxlf2/37.jpg?dl=1)
I also finished another knight, I am not happy with the shield. It needs some extra layers, so it looks a bit smoother. So that needs some retouching eventually. :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ht26i5apb1f1xu/38.jpg?dl=1)
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More beautiful work Tonhel :-* :-* :-*
BTW, James Morris and co are putting on a Reconquista 11th CE game at Partizan today so something to watch out for as I have no doubt it will be a sight to behold.
I couldn't make it so I'm very eager to see the pictures of the game.
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More beautiful work Tonhel :-* :-* :-*
BTW, James Morris and co are putting on a Reconquista 11th CE game at Partizan today so something to watch out for as I have no doubt it will be a sight to behold.
I couldn't make it so I'm very eager to see the pictures of the game.
Yes, I am subscribed to his blog. Beautiful board + battle! I am really looking forward to this ruleset. ;-)
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Yes, I am subscribed to his blog. Beautiful board + battle! I am really looking forward to this ruleset. ;-)
It will be a good one and from what I've heard/seen it seems to work with Mythological games as well as Historical.
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Small update for my retinue. An archer, a crossbowman and a knight who hasn't received his spear and shield yet. :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5ewhszlyh3fe8d/39.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/en7pn5uvrngq98r/40.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbv9l80vxemcta3/41.jpg?dl=1)
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Lovely brushwork Tonhel :-* :-* :-*
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Stunningly beautiful!
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Superb
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Stunning
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Thank you! :D
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The miniatures are really nice - and the paint jobs sublime. Great work.
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These are definitely beautiful figures. I have way too much on to even think about getting a 3D printer, but I am getting some samples (Not the Reconquista figures) from these guys - https://resinhistoricals.co.uk/- it will be interesting to see what they turn out like.
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These models are beautiful. I have been converting an El Cid army, but then Victrix made conversion unnecessary. Now these 3D models make Victrix unnecessary. Oh and very nice paintjob as well.
Is it possible to buy the files or do you have to subscribe to their site?
Cheers
Erik
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@Erik
You can buy the files from here:
https://www.myminifactory.com/users/Caballerominiatures
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Small update:
The start of another retinue, this time belonging to the Galician noble family of the house of Traba under the command of Froila Vermúdez de Traba.
It's a small start, it's a commander on foot who isn't Froila, but a currently nameless knight. He is in command of all the foot troops belonging to the retinue. He is accompanied by a Galician dismounted knight. This group will expand a litte bit with a standard bearer, musician and another dismounted knight.
Next are two ruthless dismounted mercenary knights that will offer their services to one of the Muslim principalities of the Iberian Peninsula. Atleast 3 more will be added to this group. It will be a strong group.
The pics:
1 and 2 are the mercenary knights, 3 is the Galician dismounted knight and 4 is the commander.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/1m6hhxe6hsldqye/42.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/539z61eh6u8uwag/43.jpg?dl=1)
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Excellent Tonhel :-* :-* :-*
I wish the Caballero miniatures had been released 20 years ago as it would have made a big difference to my "El Cid" collection.
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Fantastic work
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Altough I have painted more mini's, I still haven't finished the bases. So pictures have to wait. ;-)
But with the release of the Barons' War Conquest supplement which adds Vikings, Saxons and Normans I took the opportunity to make an unofficial armylist for the Kingdom of Castile and Leon 1072 - 1099.
It's still WIP, it lacks special characters and mercenaries.
So for people that like the Barons War ruleset and bought the conquest supplement I present to you my take on the Kingdom of Castile and Leon ;).
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4 Ballesteros, 2 dismounted Caballero Villanos (they will be mercenaries), 1 still needs a shield and the last mini is a Caballero Hidalgo, but also still needs a shield. ;-)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xts3rv2ftgla0kn/44.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/v1dcsdbdq1cbika/45.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/46dsebit3hw5c2a/46.jpg?dl=1)
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These are simply beautiful Tonhel, well done! :-*
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Lovely work Tonhel :-*
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Finally an update :D
I finished Alvar Fanez, a couple more knights and redid the shields of the knights I already painted. But most importantly I switched to big bases in the hope to use them with the Midgard ruleset once it's released. Imo, it looks so much better on these bases.
I used for infantry 60x80 and for cavalry 60x100. These are the bases sizes that will be used for the upcoming ruleset from Claymore Castings and I am always blown away when they show their painted mini's, so I copied the basing style. :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gpmgclwq2yjrh5/47.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/fkf2bcpxi21862a/48.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgs9k6jl7c9oa0m/49.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/poq3lf4kkboz3gt/50.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/snm69pg1hecu492/51.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/du1r83dfzsjj9gi/52.jpg?dl=1)
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These are absolutely fantastic! The horses in particular have come out a treat.
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Saw this for the first time.
A wonderful thread
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Really nice basing.
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Again an update, and again there will be some rebasing in the future, as I finally decided what ruleset to use. It will be for Swordpoint, finally bought all the books. :o
The pictures:
Almoravid cavalry, Julian de Súria, who is a Catalonian knight. He just survived the battle of las Navas de Tolosa. Than we have the Count of Barcelona, Berenguer Ramon II "the Fratricide" and his unfinished bannerman. He will be the general of my army for the County of Barcelona. He will be placed on a base with his bannerman. There is also a lone crossbowman, which I painted together with the count.
And than my favourite miniature so far. The Duke of Aquitaine, William IX "The Troubadour". He still needs his spear and shield painted, but I coudn't wait to show him. He will also be the general for the army of Aquitaine. (I will use the French (Capetian) armylist for this army).
The sculptor of Reconquer designs has made the last couple of months a couple of changes to his miniatures. Now it's really very realistic. You can see the difference between the bannerman (Barcelona) and William IX. I like it, but it means all details are smaller, so it's a bit more difficult to paint. Especially the faces.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/z5e1h9yrocspt6o/53.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/iitzg91jh5duc46/54.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tl5vj3nhxojg12/55.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/btaf7u4kmsr9obg/56.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8sjb515uy5nwzv/57.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwvo9pd39dlbl5n/58.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xcomfs7gz58h7da/59.JPG?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/963oihtl679j4w4/60.JPG?dl=1)
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Wonderful work. Thanks for sharing and keep it up!.
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The horse sculpts in this line really set the standard and your painting is up to that standard; really well done.
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Superb! Masterful sculpts masterfully painted! Bravo!
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Brilliant
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Update!
And a small change, I am leaving the 11th century for a while and jumping to the late 12th century. :-)
I am working on a unit of dismounted knights. It will be the only one in the army. The rest will ofcourse be mounted.
It's still Spanish focussed, but I am planning to use them for the 3rd crusades to.
This is a WIP of the first base of a unit. There is still a knight missing and the bases needs to be finished. The third dismounted knight will be in the middle.
The base includes a Spanish mounted knight, a templar and a knight of the order of Calatrava. The knight I still need to add will be also a knight of the order of Calatrava, but he will have a brown habbit and a white mantle with the cross on the left shoulder of the mantle.
The templar has also his cross on his left shoulder, but sadly not visible. I make sure it's visible next time when I take newer pictures. :-)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4qgrhq930x6zcif/62.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8nfut0c5xdqpxw/63.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/tamirhi1aa322yl/64.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/mq1c2phz5sdf5vo/65.jpg?dl=1)
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Great job!
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Very impressive! :-*
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Wonderful stuff. The minis have great action.
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Update time!
I added some more mini's and rebased the crossbowmen.
This is for my Hail Caesar army based around the battle of Alarcos (1195).
It's all still WIP, the bases aren't finished and more models need to be added to bases and each standard unit will exist out of three bases. (Inspired by the 7th Son channel on youtube).
On the command base is the grandmaster of the Order of Calatrava: Nuno Pérez de Quinones. There is a hospitaller priest + standard bearer. The banner isn't finished yet (small banner). There will be one or two more mini's on that base. A Calatrava standard bearer and maybe another mini.
Than there is the dismounted knight unit. Which will be a mix of 2-3 regular knights, knights of the order of Calatrava, knights Hospitallers and Templar knights. Knights of Santiago will have their own units. Lots of models still to add.
The other one is crossbowmen unit. Still a couple of mini's to add. It will be either a small or standard unit. It depends if I have enough mini's to fill 3 bases.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ve2okm9l0ha6el/66.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/sxst7pthb5zznx7/67.jpg?dl=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/tm0a3jgcsf8hl4e/68.jpg?dl=1)
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Cracking work Tonhel- I love the element of "realism" you have injected into the painting and modelling :-*
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Thank you Atheling!
I added a close up for my grandmaster. I really like how he turned out. :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ywjz4ywq87aqzm/69.jpg?dl=1)
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Wonderful minis and work
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Thank you Atheling!
I added a close up for my grandmaster. I really like how he turned out. :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ywjz4ywq87aqzm/69.jpg?dl=1)
Me too! He looks fantastic Tonhel :-*
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Tonhel, all very nice. I too have a Cabellero 11/12th century Spanish army but mine is still in its box. Can I ask what sort of glue you found best to stick the figures to the MdF bases you use. I asked the figure supplier in UK but he admitted he had never done it and couldn't give any advice.
Thanks
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I mostly drop some glue accelerator on the mdf base and than a bit of super glue on the feet and than place it on or visa versa. It glues extremely fast, so you have to be certain that the position of the mini is good form the first try.
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Stunning sculpts and painting! :-*
I have been eying these up for some time, and your work has convinced me to order a few to try out.
I wont be printing my own so it will be interesting to see how flexible the resin is on commercial figures.
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David H, I don't know where you are based but in UK there appears to be 2 commercial sellers of Caballero/ Reconquer figures, being Fenland Miniatures and Iron Gate Scenery. The latter seems to attend a lot of shows in the UK, the former very few. I bought my figures online from Fenland but arranged collection at a show last year. All I can say is that they are very nice. They came fully cleaned-up but I don't know if that is the norm. Iron Gate's figures are double the price of Fenland's which I find incredible. The Fenland prices seem far more in line with other manufacturers such as Blitzkrieg, so Iron Gate obviously have an "interesting" business model. However, if people buy from them I guess they are happy!