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Title: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 06, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
Build Something Competition 2021, a.k.a. 'The Potato Cup'. *)


The theme for the BSC2021 is:

Difficult Terrain


GENERAL RULES

A child board has been set up in the Workbench section and all build threads must be started in this. A dedicated Gallery has been set up just for hosting contest images so please post your photos here:

Gallery for BSC2021 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=gallery;cat=103)

You can then add them to your build thread - any questions regarding this just let me know.

The official start date is 01:00 GMT Saturday 10th April 2021 and all applicants must notify their intent to take part on the registration thread by Saturday April 24th, 2021. They will then be listed in the registration post. The list of entrants will be in order of which their intent has been posted. Please let me know if your username is wrong.

YOU CAN START YOUR BUILD THREAD IN THIS SUB-FORUM DIRECTLY.

Please name your thread according to this pattern:

BSC2020 <member name> <build title>  - for example, 'BSC2021 Hammers Moroccan Bazar', where Hammers would be the user's forum name and 'Moroccan Bazar' would be the object being built (all those who've been *that* is difficult terrain).

If you change your mind, if Real Life intrudes or if you realise after some contemplation the theme is not to your taste - just let me know and I shall remove your name.

One entry per member (no joint contributions).

Finished entries must be submitted no later than midnight Sun 6th June 2021 and the voting will start shortly after. That should allow for plenty of time to build something.

The build threads of the entrants should include as many progress shots as possible, including sketches, sources of inspiration etc. NO PHOTOS OF THE FINISHED ENTRY SHOULD BE POSTED ON THE THREAD - painting in progress is not allowed, only primed entries are permissible on the build threads - if you are unsure then please ask. I would however turn a blind eye to small details which have to be finished before assembly (for example a pilot and controls in an enclosed cockpit). Keep in mind that the documentation of the build process has some impact on how people vote.

Depending on the number of participants, entries will be randomly grouped

The first entries must consist of either one photo OR a photo-montage of the finished piece. No photo manipulation will be allowed apart from cropping, white balance and contrast within reason. Again, if you are unsure then please ask. You may include one separate figure in the final entry photo to indicate the relative size of the entry.

Photo size should be 1000x1000 pixels and sent as a jpeg to 'bsc2021@tsome.com'

Depending on the number of entries, voting will take place in one or more group, and then, again depending of the number of entries, the top one or two entries of each group will advance to a final vote.

You will be allowed to enter new photos between rounds if you like. It has proven a good idea to keep interest up among voters.

For the last round you will be allowed to use your terrain piece in a "fully dramatized" setting, meaning on a game board surrounded with as many wargames miniatures you like.


A NOTE ON BIAS AND CONDUCT

I (Hammers) will, most likely be entering a build myself. I've done so in the past and I can pretty much prove the rules were not bent in my favour. I did not win, see, except once, and therefore it  doesn't count! . :D

While everyone is allowed, as per usual, to comment in progress threads, please keep things encouraging and constructive.

Although winners will be voted by the members collective of the LAF, if there is any sense of foul play the judges’ decision is final, although we would hope that it won't be necessary given the friendly nature of the LAF.

THEME RULES

The entry must include something that ties in with the theme of 'Difficult Terrain'.

Most miniature wargames include rules for difficult terrain, which has some impact on aspects like movement and visibility of miniatures in games. In a gaming context, difficult terrain is reasonably well defined areas on the game board, which ideally marks when a miniature is entered into or moved over said terrain. Typically there is some movement penalty involved as this is done

The theme of this years BSC should be interpreted as including all sorts of terrain pieces which can be used to define an area of difficult terrain on your game board. Some examples are (but not limited to) bogs, quicksand, minefields, asteroid belts, shallows, dense woods, scrap yards, "dead mans land"...

Keep in mind that wargaming rules typically make distinction between difficult terrain, obstacles and cover. Difficult terrain is, to repeat the above, something you move through with a penalty, while obstacles (hedges, barbed wire) is something you move up to and overcome while cover (walls, hedges) is something you seek shelter behind in combat or under fire. In this competition we would like you to, clearly, excel in making a representation of an area of difficult terrain.

Although we have in the past seen some quite remarkable entries you should not think of this as a diorama contest! The entries should be practical gaming board pieces. So rid yourselves of thoughts of fancy walnut veneer bases or artful backdrops.

Remember that the competition is run within the confines of the Workbench board: you have to build something. What singles out the Build Something Contest is that it is about construction of something new. The vast majority of the piece should be scratch built, and only 0-25% can be commercially bought items or figures. The rest must be handmade. If you have any questions either ask them here, to the above buildsomething email or via pm, but please label your email/ pm Build Something 2021.

The entries should be based for placement on a game board. You may enter up to six smaller individual bases. You are also allowed to enter a gameboard, as long as the build process has its focus on the construction of the difficult terrain section.  There is no limit to base size, nor the shape of the base, but remember that the larger the build, the more difficult it will be to detect details in the posted picture. Also make sure it is a practical gaming piece; even though it may be rough ground or water you should be able to place miniatures on it.

There is no minimum or maximum limit of figures in the entry as long as they are an integral part of it. The traditional single, individually based miniature for size indication will be allowed.

Any period or setting is allowed as long as it fits with the theme including sci-fi, historical, pulp, fantasy etc.

Just like last year, any amount of 3D printing is allowed but we ask you to be especially diligent in including images from design steps (3D design files) and of part printouts in the your progress thread.

Conversion of commercially-bought items is allowed also e.g. as long as it is a major 'refactoring'. Another example could be a plastic aeroplane kit: adding a couple of extra parts to the kit would not be sufficient to qualify, but having some of the parts from a sprue on an entirely new build would be fine. Again, if in doubt, please ask.

It's not possible to cover all the eventualities, so please use your common sense and play fair. :D

Good luck, and happy building to all - and don't forget to REGISTER YOUR INTENT and START A THREAD.

Post any rules queries and comments as replies.

*) The name 'The Potato Cup' comes from an early run of the competition where a number of items where offered to the winner, among them a raw unpeeled potato. The winner picked the potato. Well, we thought it was funny at the time...

Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: tomrommel1 on April 06, 2021, 03:39:03 PM
Is it allowed to do several smaller terrain pieces? I am thinking of "difficult scatter terrain".
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 06, 2021, 03:42:00 PM
Huzzah!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Clach Umha on April 07, 2021, 05:34:49 AM
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Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: beefcake on April 07, 2021, 07:19:43 AM
Hmmm. Colour me interested.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Dolmot on April 07, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
Yes it is allowed. You should however think of this scatter terrain as pieces which can be used to reasonably clearly define an area of the game board as difficult terrain.

Who wrote what in that message? I'm getting confused. :?

Anyway, I spotted the "three bases" part too. Usually that would be more than enough for a basic build of "some thing". However, difficult terrain is a prime example of scenery that tends to benefit from high modularity to keep it playable. Three movable pieces sounds a tad low for that purpose.

So let's ask the same thing this way: is it still fine if there are, for example, six loose pieces on top of a base which defines the area? I'd say that's a common and handy way to represent such terrain in games. Or should I just do that and not tell anyone that the pieces are loose? lol

Or more seriously, does it even require a common base, thus making the "three bases" part moot? It looks like a copy-pasted rule which may not be particularly well suited for this year's theme. :-I
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 07, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
You’ ve got s point. I had had a notion that I should change it but forgot about it. I think I’d like to put some sort of cap on it, but I’ll give it some brief consideration before I do.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Billchuck on April 07, 2021, 09:00:54 PM
You’ ve got s point. I had had a notion that I should change it but forgot about it. I think I’d like to put some sort of cap on it, but I’ll give it some brief consideration before I do.

Perhaps "A multi-piece entry should form one cohesive area of terrain."  That would cover both a template base with movable/removable detail pieces and several larger pieces that are meant to fit closely together.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 07, 2021, 09:49:50 PM
Perhaps "A multi-piece entry should form one cohesive area of terrain."  That would cover both a template base with movable/removable detail pieces and several larger pieces that are meant to fit closely together.

Something line that.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Clach Umha on April 08, 2021, 12:17:54 AM
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Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 08, 2021, 09:32:45 AM

Fixed :)



& thanks for the pin Hammers :)


Sorry I must have hit the modify button insted of quote. 1000 pardons.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 08, 2021, 09:58:51 AM
Attention all participants! A small but important change has been made to the rules. Due to the nature of the competition you are allowed to enter up to six individual terrain pieces.

Let me remind everyone that the rules can only go so far in setting the boundaries of the theme. If you are unsure about the validity of your entry send me a pm.

Also remember that you will not win by what the rules say. Your entry will be elected by peers. It is safe to say that progress photos of the build phase is as import as the finished build. Techniques, consistency and presentation (among things) matters, and those things can’t be defined in the rules.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Clach Umha on April 08, 2021, 10:00:29 AM
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Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 08, 2021, 10:05:46 AM
Yes, but i the build phase you should leave out the fort (sketches and such) and the vote photos should leave the fort out of focus.

It is a great idea, otherwise, and judging from what I see so far an original one.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Clach Umha on April 08, 2021, 10:21:20 AM
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Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Admiral Alder on April 08, 2021, 04:53:58 PM
I might give this a shot and enter my first LAF contest despite voting on all of the previous ones, just have to think of an idea to get on the registration thread before April 24th.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on April 09, 2021, 08:15:20 AM
I already opened a thread, but I thought I'd report in here as well, just to be sure.

If this will be half as much fun as last year, we'll be in for another treat again! :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 09, 2021, 08:28:09 AM
If this will be half as much fun as last year, we'll be in for another treat again! :)

T'was, wasn't it? I hope we'll see a lot of unique entries.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: ichwillauch on April 09, 2021, 11:56:35 AM
I'm really excited about the new competition and the topic, but could the rule "- painting in progress is not allowed, only primed entries are permissible on the build threads -" be ignored this time? Building difficult terrain with a lot of broken pieces would be much easier if parts are allowed to  be painted in advance.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 09, 2021, 03:27:04 PM
I'm really excited about the new competition and the topic, but could the rule "- painting in progress is not allowed, only primed entries are permissible on the build threads -" be ignored this time? Building difficult terrain with a lot of broken pieces would be much easier if parts are allowed to  be painted in advance.

I think there is a paragraph covering this. If a part needs to be painted before assembly that is OK. Just make sure that you save the WOW! pictures till last. I won't change the wording to cover this.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: gamer Mac on April 10, 2021, 11:29:01 AM
Not to be a rules lawyer but I have seen some people posting their build on blogs etc I s that allowed by the rules?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: gamer Mac on April 10, 2021, 11:37:34 AM
Of course by "not to be a rules lawyer" I mean I totally want to be a rules lawyer! And if you change the rule about number of bases can we also have a redue of last year :D
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 10, 2021, 06:18:55 PM
Not to be a rules lawyer but I have seen some people posting their build on blogs etc I s that allowed by the rules?

No it is not, per analogy with the LPL. Didn’t think of that.

I have no way to police it (and really dont care to) but I ask every one not to until the competition is over.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 10, 2021, 06:26:41 PM
Of course by "not to be a rules lawyer" I mean I totally want to be a rules lawyer! And if you change the rule about number of bases can we also have a redue of last year :D

Well, you know, the reason I set the *official* start of the competition to today is so I had some time to tweak the rules. From now on my fickle despotism shall guide me when I ignore them.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Westfalia Chris on April 10, 2021, 07:03:58 PM
One thing, and more of a clarification:

I seem to recall that in previous iterations, "general scenic material" e.g. static grass (loose/tufts), sand, gravel, scatterflock etc. was not included in or explicitly excluded from the 25% purchased items limit, that limitation being intended for actual models, right?

That's still the case this time, I assume?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 10, 2021, 08:15:33 PM
One thing, and more of a clarification:

I seem to recall that in previous iterations, "general scenic material" e.g. static grass (loose/tufts), sand, gravel, scatterflock etc. was not included in or explicitly excluded from the 25% purchased items limit, that limitation being intended for actual models, right?

That's still the case this time, I assume?

Absolutely. The 25% rule concerns nore complex elements.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: cahrn on April 10, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
Glad to see that the competition is going to happen. I'll definitely be participating again. I have some time to ponder what I'd like to build but I'll be sure to create a thread soon so as not to forget. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else comes up with again this time around.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 10, 2021, 08:23:53 PM
Glad to see that the competition is going to happen. I'll definitely be participating again. I have some time to ponder what I'd like to build but I'll be sure to create a thread soon so as not to forget. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else comes up with again this time around.

As you can see most people create a thread without having determined the content for sort of pour le encourage les autres
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: cahrn on April 10, 2021, 08:25:52 PM
As you can see most people create a thread without having determined the content for sort of pour le encourage les autres

Indeed I am aware of that. Thanks for running it again, Hammers.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 11, 2021, 10:45:02 AM
Indeed I am aware of that. Thanks for running it again, Hammers.

It was fun last year and judging by the lineup I expect it to br this year to. :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Sinewgrab on April 11, 2021, 04:23:29 PM
This is a much harder one to make spectacular, in my opinion.  At least for me.  I'm trying to keep it more generalized than my greenhouse, so I'm pretty sure it won't have as much 'wow, but it is the only thing I could think of that is keeping with any of my projects I am obsessing over this year.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on April 19, 2021, 01:43:40 AM
This being my first time competing, when/what should we be posting to the gallery. And how does that differ from the wip thread?  Just seeking some guidance as I don’t want to somehow be eliminated for missing a step.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 19, 2021, 07:59:50 AM
This being my first time competing, when/what should we be posting to the gallery. And how does that differ from the wip thread?  Just seeking some guidance as I don’t want to somehow be eliminated for missing a step.

You send the final entry photo to me. No completed entries in the build thread. So as a rule of thumb: post as much as possible of the build process but stop doing so when you paint it.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Andym on April 22, 2021, 01:11:26 PM
Can I just double check something? I was talking to Colin today and we are under different interpretations! Are we allowed to photo the first rounds of pictures on a game board? I thought I read somewhere you couldn't!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 22, 2021, 01:35:36 PM
Can I just double check something? I was talking to Colin today and we are under different interpretations! Are we allowed to photo the first rounds of pictures on a game board? I thought I read somewhere you couldn't!

What I tried to convey is that the first rounds should be focused on Difficult Terrain and Difficult terrain only

The photos of the first round(s) should therefore be of the piece(s) of difficult  terrain you've built.

What complicates this a little bit is that we have allowed for entries where Difficult Terrain is a part of a terrain board (it makes sense to do so from a builders perspectiv. In that special case the photo should be focus on the section of the game board which is considered to be Difficult Terrain (leaving other features outside).

I hope this makes things a bit clearer.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Andym on April 23, 2021, 02:11:59 PM
So, just the newly built item then and a plain background?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 23, 2021, 02:28:26 PM
So, just the newly built item then and a plain background?

Yes.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Andym on April 24, 2021, 06:44:09 AM
Thanks Hammers.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on April 26, 2021, 03:00:22 PM
I've just posted a part of my process, and it involves rebar that was cast into plaster. But I obviously had to paint it before the pouring of the plaster.

Technically, this means I've shown a painted part of the project in my WIP thread, but I'm hoping this will not be seen as too much of a breach of contract; there was no way around it I fear, and it'll only consitute a very small detail of the overall build in the end...
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on April 27, 2021, 08:05:00 AM
I've just posted a part of my process, and it involves rebar that was cast into plaster. But I obviously had to paint it before the pouring of the plaster.

Technically, this means I've shown a painted part of the project in my WIP thread, but I'm hoping this will not be seen as too much of a breach of contract; there was no way around it I fear, and it'll only consitute a very small detail of the overall build in the end...

As long as you are aware of the whole idea of submitting the final WOW!-photos you should be OK. :-)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on April 27, 2021, 08:14:55 AM
As long as you are aware of the whole idea of submitting the final WOW!-photos you should be OK. :-)

Cheers :)

And considering I went and bought a smoke machine for last year's entry, yeah; I'm aware...  lol
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on April 27, 2021, 10:05:06 PM
Cheers :)

And considering I went and bought a smoke machine for last year's entry, yeah; I'm aware...  lol

What?!?!  That’s crazy.  What have I gotten myself into?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on April 28, 2021, 08:49:38 AM
What?!?!  That’s crazy.  What have I gotten myself into?

I may have exaggerated that a bit lol

We bought it (a cheap one) for my daughter's birthday party (we turned our garage into a children's nightafternoonclub), but the first actual use was atmosphere building during the photographing of my entry...

In the immortal words of Ridley Scott: 'When in doubt, add more smoke!' ;)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on May 01, 2021, 09:54:29 AM
Heads up! Just a formal announcement that as per the 24th of April no more entries are accepted and any post submitted on the board will be removed. I will create a list of of participants shortly.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 01, 2021, 05:29:03 PM
Shit, I better start to make something then  lol
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Wirelizard on May 02, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
Shit, I better start to make something then  lol

Nah, you've made your initial "I'm in" post, so you can totally start work on this on the evening of June 5th and submit your photos on deadline on June 6th...  lol
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 02, 2021, 07:46:07 PM
 lol
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on May 02, 2021, 08:01:41 PM
Nah, you've made your initial "I'm in" post, so you can totally start work on this on the evening of June 5th and submit your photos on deadline on June 6th...  lol

That's my MO!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Blackwolf on May 02, 2021, 10:23:48 PM
Sorry everyone, I'm going to drop out this year.
Good luck to everyone!
Guy
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on May 02, 2021, 10:59:28 PM
That's a shame!

But also good news for us muckers trying to get a shot  :D

I'll see if I can squeeze in a butterfly for you ;)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on May 02, 2021, 11:10:30 PM
Sorry everyone, I'm going to drop out this year.
Good luck to everyone!
Guy

Sorry to hear that mate, your entry last year was pretty damn stunning
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Blackwolf on May 02, 2021, 11:45:18 PM
Thanks fellas :) I've mainly ducked out for fear of repeating  myself, and lack  of inspiration, oh yes and the lead/plastic horde... ;D
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: marianas_gamer on May 03, 2021, 03:26:34 AM
Guy, I will require moody dark photos of the painted portions of the lead pile to make up for this! ;D lol
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Blackwolf on May 04, 2021, 10:16:29 PM
Guy, I will require moody dark photos of the painted portions of the lead pile to make up for this! ;D lol

Haha,will do mate :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Clach Umha on May 05, 2021, 02:43:41 AM
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Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on May 05, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
Another interesting rules question popped up when I was slaving away on my entry!

In order to make the terrain even more difficult, I thought about adding a few unruly spectators to the race (mine is Gaslands terrain), sitting on top of a large overhead traffic sign, throwing cans, rocks or even taking a few potshots at the racing vehicles.

But this means adding a couple of 20mm miniatures to the piece, and I don't know how the rules would be on that.

The actual gaming miniatures are vehicles, so no confusing them with those, and they would add some extra difficulty to the track (i.e. dodging their projectiles), so would be an integral part of it.

However; I'd be perfectly fine if the powers that be would rule against including them; the piece should work fine without spectators (I just think they would add a bit more cool to the overall effect)...
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on May 05, 2021, 09:29:08 AM
Another interesting rules question popped up when I was slaving away on my entry!

In order to make the terrain even more difficult, I thought about adding a few unruly spectators to the race (mine is Gaslands terrain), sitting on top of a large overhead traffic sign, throwing cans, rocks or even taking a few potshots at the racing vehicles.

But this means adding a couple of 20mm miniatures to the piece, and I don't know how the rules would be on that.

The actual gaming miniatures are vehicles, so no confusing them with those, and they would add some extra difficulty to the track (i.e. dodging their projectiles), so would be an integral part of it.

However; I'd be perfectly fine if the powers that be would rule against including them; the piece should work fine without spectators (I just think they would add a bit more cool to the overall effect)...

As you describe it, its allowed:

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There is no minimum or maximum limit of figures in the entry as long as they are an integral part of it. The traditional single, individually based miniature for size indication will be allowed.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on May 05, 2021, 11:17:18 AM
And that'll show me for not reading through the rules like I should have, before posting... ::)

Cheers hammers :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Andym on May 16, 2021, 06:34:14 AM
So by my count, there's 3 weeks to go. How is everybody getting on? I think I'll make it, but I'm going to struggle to get it fully painted in time!! :'(
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on May 16, 2021, 07:05:42 AM
So by my count, there's 3 weeks to go. How is everybody getting on? I think I'll make it, but I'm going to struggle to get it fully painted in time!! :'(

This...injured my arm so I’m struggling now...currently can only work in short bursts.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: snitcythedog on May 16, 2021, 11:25:49 AM
I finished but need to photograph everything again as I did not read the whole section on the final submission. 
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Vanvlak on May 16, 2021, 11:29:59 AM
Badly delayed, badly overworked, but still working on it.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on May 16, 2021, 12:50:52 PM
So by my count, there's 3 weeks to go. How is everybody getting on? I think I'll make it, but I'm going to struggle to get it fully painted in time!! :'(

I’m at the painting stage too but with only 2 weekends left, I feel I’m running short on time.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: marianas_gamer on May 16, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
I finished mine last week but am waiting for good weather to take my photos.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on May 16, 2021, 02:20:27 PM
I've just cast the final moulds. Now it's on to assembly of the road pieces (and smashing them 8) ).

It feels like I'm right on track, however; this is without any (more ::) ) distractions along the way. I'm lucky, in that my entry does not require that much painting, since I'm mostly using the natural colours of the materials, although there's bound to be a hick-up or two.

All in all though, I think I'm pretty much on track still :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 16, 2021, 02:26:06 PM
Shit, I better start to make something then  lol

 ::) lol
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Bearwoodman on May 16, 2021, 02:26:18 PM
I am at the painting stage. I tried a new technique for stone last night and it looks a bit rubbish at the moment. I will try and rectify it tonight but I will have to leave it after that as I still have to paint some other bits, make some water and some ice out of resin (which I am nervous about as I have not done it before) and also hopefully add some snow. I do not have much chance for hobby stuff during the week so although I should be done on time I think I will be cutting it fine.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: has.been on May 16, 2021, 04:09:38 PM
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Shit, I better start to make something then  lol

Plus one to that.
I keep thinking up ideas & then dismissing them.
Must do SOMETHING. Will decide on what in the next two/three days.
That way I MIGHT get whatever it is finished.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Wirelizard on May 17, 2021, 04:36:39 AM
I've been very slowly doing layers of gloss varnish on the Dark Pool of Dark Darkness, both because you can't rush that stuff and because I'm waiting on an order of grass tufts before I get stuck into doing greenery on my piece. Hopefully the tufts get here this week and I can plow through tufting, flocking, and such in a couple of evenings, then take photos some sunny afternoon.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: cahrn on May 17, 2021, 06:05:28 PM
So by my count, there's 3 weeks to go. How is everybody getting on? I think I'll make it, but I'm going to struggle to get it fully painted in time!! :'(

I've been very busy. With things unrelated to the BSC  :?. Things are looking a bit better now though.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: has.been on May 18, 2021, 07:48:03 AM
Inspiration at last!
I won't say what is planned as it may well go completely wrong.

'Why try to hit the target? Just shoot and draw a ring around
whatever you hit. Then call that the target.'
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on May 18, 2021, 08:10:39 AM
Ooo a rollercoaster  :-*
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: has.been on May 18, 2021, 10:54:06 AM
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Ooo a rollercoaster  :-*

Shush!  Don't tell anybody, but yes, at least that is the hope.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on May 18, 2021, 11:44:35 AM
Shush!  Don't tell anybody, but yes, at least that is the hope.

That’s awesome!  This contest has so many creative minds.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on May 18, 2021, 12:05:39 PM
Shush!  Don't tell anybody, but yes, at least that is the hope.

I won’t tell a soul, but I know it’s going to look awesome  8)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Codsticker on May 30, 2021, 05:45:49 PM
I sent my entry in... twice... from 2 different email addresses, just to be sure. :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Eliot on May 30, 2021, 06:34:06 PM
Hi folks-

I hoped to build something for this contest but unfortunately I ended up with one of those job things that were popular before the pandemic. So you can strike my name off the list. Good luck to everyone I will keep my eyes on it. Everything is very inspiring.


Cheers,

Eliot
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: McMordain on May 30, 2021, 09:47:05 PM
I couldn't do much in the last couple of weeks but today painted the bases I managed to finish, so at least I will have something to show.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on June 03, 2021, 04:05:15 PM
Have sent a photo in....albeit it’s ended up being a bit hurried to say the least  :(

Had planned on spending today working on it, but instead I’ve spent the whole day getting my car fixed, and going to be away from home now until possibly Sunday night  ;D
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Dolmot on June 03, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
Nah, you've made your initial "I'm in" post, so you can totally start work on this on the evening of June 5th and submit your photos on deadline on June 6th...  lol

Sad because 100% true. :'(

The heavily condensed plot of my spring has been that I moved in March at a shortish notice. All the packing, unpacking and paperwork was total murder as expected. After that I knew there would be some (or a bunch) of things to sort in the new place, but their true extent has only been revealed gradually. Pretty much everything in here has been at least somewhat wonky, thus it's been a continuous "build something" challenge in 1:1 scale for two months straight. Complemented by computer issues and hassle with taxes and whatnot. All work and no play. No fun.

At this point the sensible thing would be to admit that nothing is going to materialise. Then again, right now it feels that there could be some light at the end of the tunnel. What I'm planning shouldn't take that many hours. Could it happen in a weekend? Maybe, if I postpone a couple of things that also should be done ASAP, yet they don't totally ruin everything if delayed a bit more (unlike the previous matters). More importantly, I just don't consider myself a quitter. I'd hate myself for throwing in the towel without even trying.

So, let's see. If I somehow manage to make it happen, it obviously won't be any spectacular entry, but it should be something built. No more excuses or explanations here, just trying to get to work. I'll tell the other stories later. :-I
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and..., PLEASE READ!
Post by: Hammers on June 04, 2021, 07:27:50 AM
Folks, as you can tell I have not been very visible the last few weeks. I work in a very stressful times and profession, and in the name of full disclosure I have suffered some health issues related to that, that's why. The thing is I will do so up till the next two weeks (or Sprint period as we aptly call in a Agile methodology process). I suggest both for my sanity and your benefit that we push the deadline two weeks. If I hear many voices crying out dissent we will keep the deadline, but I will nevertheless not be able to organize the voting till in the next weekend, at the earliest.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: marianas_gamer on June 04, 2021, 07:50:58 AM
My vote is to push the deadline back. I would prefer folks that are dealing with real life issues should catch a break. This doesn't affect me. I finished weeks ago and my photo is submitted. I want to see what the forum can produce and don't mind waiting another week or so to see it.
Lon
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 04, 2021, 08:22:59 AM
Your health etc comes first  :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 04, 2021, 10:01:00 AM
Sure Health first !!! so what would be the next deadline?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on June 04, 2021, 12:22:47 PM
Totally agree your health, family come first; this is a hobby after all.  And while I’m almost done and could make the original deadline (barely) I’d rather compete against everyone’s best efforts and not something hastily thrown together while dealing with more important issues.

...so what would be the next deadline?

Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Bearwoodman on June 04, 2021, 02:33:23 PM
Of course I am happy to extend the deadline. This hobby is meant to be good for our health (fumes from polyester resin aside), not a source of stress. I wish you a swift recovery.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: has.been on June 04, 2021, 03:31:55 PM
Real life, though not poor health, has stumped me yoo.
I would be happy with a delay.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on June 04, 2021, 05:26:26 PM
I actually took the day off today to catch up on my project after 'losing' a whole weekend last week to a family weekend.

And obviously reality caught up with me and I had to get the garden ready for the little Khaleesi's birthday party, so now I'm too dang tired to even lift a brush... ::)

So for me, a postponement would be very welcome :D

And going through an Agile Transformation at work too, I can understand the stresses involved. Please take all the time you need to wind down (and in the process, you'll probably make some/most of us participants able to breathe easier too ;) ).

Best wishes!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Vanvlak on June 04, 2021, 05:35:41 PM
Agreed! I'm doing the finishing touches of the paint on one last item  before photos, but agree with the extension - as the people said, health comes first, and this is intended to be fun anyway  :D
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Wirelizard on June 04, 2021, 05:42:26 PM
Postponement is fine, I was going to have to rush to get photos done, edited, and submitted while working this morning because we'll off camping this whole weekend and I only finished tufting and detailing last night!

So new deadline Sunday the 20th or somewhere around there?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Andym on June 04, 2021, 05:46:09 PM
Health first!.....plus it'll give us all more a chance to paint stuff up that was supposed to be completed and phtographed! ::) ::) ::)

This comp is supposed to be about fun and bringing us all together to make some cool things. If two weeks grace see's more entries, all the better!

Get well soon buddy!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Will Bailie on June 04, 2021, 05:54:04 PM
I agree with the other posters:  health first, hobby later.  And "real life" also takes priority, remember this is just a hobby! :)

Another suggestion:  can Hammers delegate any of the tasks for administering the BSC? 
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: gamer Mac on June 04, 2021, 05:57:17 PM
Health comes first.
Hope you are OK now?
So when is the finishing date now?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: snitcythedog on June 04, 2021, 08:29:58 PM
Hammers, there is no discussion.  Take whatever time that you need.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on June 04, 2021, 10:51:11 PM
As others have already said Peder your health comes first, so don’t stress about judging the competition.

If anyone wants the two week extension personally I don’t have an issue with that, although having sent in my photo I’m not at a stage where another couple of weeks would help ...the last addition was the water effects, snow etc so I’ll stick with what I’ve submitted  :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: cahrn on June 05, 2021, 02:05:50 AM
Nothing wrong with moving the end date back in my opinion. As I mentioned in my own build thread May was a very busy month for me and I didn't get around to working on the hobby stuff as much as I would have liked. With some more time I can add some more pieces to my project.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: syrinx0 on June 05, 2021, 02:42:51 AM
Being truly Agile means adjusting what ships and what moves the the next sprint based on real life.  Hope you fell less stressed in the upcoming week.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: McMordain on June 05, 2021, 03:54:54 PM
I have no problem with pushing the deadline either, and as the others said health comes first.  :)
This would also mean that I don't have to rush adding the water effect tonight... :D
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on June 06, 2021, 10:51:17 AM
Postponement is fine, I was going to have to rush to get photos done, edited, and submitted while working this morning because we'll off camping this whole weekend and I only finished tufting and detailing last night!

So new deadline Sunday the 20th or somewhere around there?


Sunday the 20 the of June it is then! You are all good mates. Thank you!

I really am sorry, this is not the way I'd like to roll but there it is.

Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: has.been on June 06, 2021, 12:06:00 PM
[quoteI really am sorry, this is not the way I'd like to roll but there it is.][/quote]

Well I for one am grateful to you, as it now means I will have time
to finish my entry, but even if I had been ready my view would have been,
'If that is the worst thing that happens to me today, I can cope'
You take care of yourself now, you hear me soldier?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on June 06, 2021, 12:50:56 PM

Sunday the 20 the of June it is then! You are all good mates. Thank you!


I’m eagerly awaiting seeing everyone’s finished work. What a nice father’s day that will be.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Clach Umha on June 06, 2021, 11:42:07 PM
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Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Braz on June 07, 2021, 12:18:13 AM
No worries.
Health first and foremost. Take whatever time is needed.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: gamer Mac on June 15, 2021, 10:59:02 AM
I have sent my entry in
But I have not recieved any comfirmation?
Did you get it Hammers?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on June 15, 2021, 12:12:28 PM
@hammers I didn’t get a confirmation either
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on June 16, 2021, 01:34:56 PM
Chaps, I think I have forgotten to do forwarding on the emails. I'll get beck to you soon.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 17, 2021, 07:45:23 AM
send you my enmtry
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: McMordain on June 18, 2021, 07:49:53 PM
I sent in the photo of my work.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Bearwoodman on June 19, 2021, 04:11:58 PM
Mine is in now too. I look forward to seeing everyone's entries!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on June 19, 2021, 04:27:50 PM
I resubmitted mine just to be sure.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: gamer Mac on June 19, 2021, 05:10:14 PM
How many entries have you recieved?
Still unsure you got my entry?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: marianas_gamer on June 19, 2021, 10:31:26 PM
My entry was also submitted a couple of weeks ago
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: AKULA on June 19, 2021, 11:14:55 PM
My entry was also submitted a couple of weeks ago

Ditto

 :)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: cahrn on June 20, 2021, 05:20:36 AM
Mine is now sent in. Unfortunately I ended up really busy during much of the competition build time, but it was still a lot of fun anyway.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Dolmot on June 20, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Ahem...first time here, checking one thing before taking the photos (which I think I'll be able to do tonight). I found this discussion:

What I tried to convey is that the first rounds should be focused on Difficult Terrain and Difficult terrain only.

So, just the newly built item then and a plain background?

Yes.

What count as plain background? White table? Brown table? Flat-coloured cloth? Felt-like gaming mat (no print)? I can do any of those, no problem. I'm just considering the options because my entry consists of multiple pieces and something with a tone and texture closer to the final tabletop environment could be more illustrative and/or easier on the eyes than pure white. Maybe. Any preferences?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on June 20, 2021, 02:33:29 PM
@dolmont while I’m no expert and this being my first BSC entry, i used a gray bed sheet for the background and a plain grass mat for my final photo. I think the intent here is to focus on the new pieces and not showcase any other works. Oh and only a single figure for scale.  I haven’t heard anything so I might be wrong too.  Better to submit something that might be wrong than not submit anything.  Best of luck.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Wirelizard on June 20, 2021, 06:49:20 PM
First photo sent. A single image 1000 by 1000 pixels isn't very big, and my Dark Pool of Dark Darkness is only about 12x10", a bit bigger than a standard sheet of Letter or A4 paper. Can't imagine what you folks doing huge whole-table projects had to get up to to fit things in!

I'll definitely be shooting more and different photos as the BSC rounds roll on, so I can showcase different areas of the build, mostly because I'm very pleased with the various textures of the scruffy ground cover I've achieved on this.

Onward to the actual contest!
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Hammers on June 20, 2021, 08:20:49 PM
@dolmont while I’m no expert and this being my first BSC entry, i used a gray bed sheet for the background and a plain grass mat for my final photo. I think the intent here is to focus on the new pieces and not showcase any other works. Oh and only a single figure for scale.  I haven’t heard anything so I might be wrong too.  Better to submit something that might be wrong than not submit anything.  Best of luck.

You are quite right. What I am looking for is a neutral background which does not distract or enhance the actual build.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Daeothar on June 20, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Sent...
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: has.been on June 20, 2021, 09:22:32 PM
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Mine is now sent in. Unfortunately I ended up really busy during much of the competition build time, but it was still a lot of fun anyway.

Amen to that.
I (think) I have sent in my entry, though I could not get it to resize
(I do not do anything technical well).
I also couldn't get the link to work (for sending the picture) so I have
e-mailed it instead.
If I have done wrong I apologise.
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Dolmot on June 20, 2021, 09:32:33 PM
Sent...I hope. I did my best with the build and photo and submitting, but the chaos in here is more than real so who knows how it went. ::)
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: McMordain on June 21, 2021, 10:07:31 AM
You are quite right. What I am looking for is a neutral background which does not distract or enhance the actual build.

Err, I missed this... Now I don't think my photo fits this description...
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: Will Bailie on June 21, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
I have a question about the restrictions on build thread photos with painted terrain.  I stopped updating my build thread after I started painting.  However, I did a fair amount of building after the painting started.  After Hammers posts the photos of the contest entries, can I update my build thread to describe and show photos of aspects of the build that I did after painting started?
Title: Re: Announcing the 2021 Build Something Competition, Theme and Rules
Post by: pistolpete on June 21, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
I have a question about the restrictions on build thread photos with painted terrain.  I stopped updating my build thread after I started painting.  However, I did a fair amount of building after the painting started.  After Hammers posts the photos of the contest entries, can I update my build thread to describe and show photos of aspects of the build that I did after painting started?

I hope so as i took photos during the painting stages with the idea that after the BSC contest, i’d update the WIP thread with the final stages.