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Other Stuff => Workbench => "Build Something" Archiv => Topic started by: AKULA on April 06, 2021, 03:18:30 PM
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I’m going literal on Hammer’s example of “dead mans land” :D
The theme of this years BSC should be interpreted as including all sorts of terrain pieces which can be used to define an area of difficult terrain on your game board. Some examples are (but not limited to) bogs, quicksand, minefields, asteroid belts, shallows, dense woods, scrap yards, "dead mans land"...
The detritus left after a battle could certainly slow movement...piles of corpses, dead horses, discarded weapons and armour...wouldn’t necessarily prevent movement, but would certainly slow down an advance, forcing cavalry to slow to a walk, or even dismount rather than risk injury to their mount. While foot soldiers would be at less risk of injury, their progress would be slowed, even their formation disrupted, as men broke ranks seeing a chance for a bit of looting.
This painting by Donato Giancola captures the feel for me perfectly.
(https://i.imgur.com/1j86rkA.jpg)
The following is a (much smaller) base that I completed a while back for my Game of Thrones project, which should give you a bit of a feel for what I have in mind....
(https://i.imgur.com/sUmBiGd.jpg)
Given the limits in commercial items, I’ll need to make the vast majority of the corpses/gear myself...themed for Game of Thrones (naturally).
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Agincourt comes to mind.
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Talk about giving yourself a hard project! :o Thats going to be a lot of sculpting!! What about casting some to help with numbers?
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I hope you haven’t picked The Battle of the Bastards for your inspiration; that’s an awful lot of bodies to sort out lol
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Or 3D print them?
Talk about giving yourself a hard project! :o Thats going to be a lot of sculpting!! What about casting some to help with numbers?
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All good points, but as “Winter is Coming” I’ll just cover everything in snow :D
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To make bodies you could use the Perry plastic medieval sets as I did here -
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=78682.30
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To make bodies you could use the Perry plastic medieval sets as I did here -
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=78682.30
That’s the plan. Mindful though of the limitations on use of commercial items, so I’ll be sculpting some bits as well.
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All good points, but as “Winter is Coming” I’ll just cover everything in snow :D
lol
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All good points, but as “Winter is Coming” I’ll just cover everything in snow :D
Does everybody read 'Winter is Coming' in a Northern accent or is that me just being weird? lol
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I can't help it as I am northern lol
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I’ve made a small test piece today - easier to play about with the green stuff while it’s on a smaller base, but I’d envisage 3 or 4 of these “components” on each actual base, with some space in between for figures to move through the terrain.
Making the components separately also means I can swop them around for now as I try to work out what looks the best on each base.
(https://i.imgur.com/DTZvLNe.jpg)
I’ve used a few bits from a Perry sprue, with the core made from milliput, but the plan is to green stuff as much as possible, with the somewhat limiting factor that I can’t sculpt to save my life lol
(https://i.imgur.com/yYtCHHH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/40D23J2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7YYR8zc.jpg)
A bunch of mdf turned up today from warbases, so I’ve currently got plans for 4 bases (the smaller ones are 15cm x 15cm, and the larger ones are 15cm x 20cm).
(https://i.imgur.com/Ze8sdHh.jpg)
Of course that would mean up to 16 component parts, so I’ll see how I get on.
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Yep; Battle of the Bastards alright... :D
That's some ambitious project you picked, but eminently suitable I might add.
This certainly is a great start. Will this remain a test piece, of will you incorporate it into the larger whole?
Oh, and better stock up on that Tamiya Clear Red... :P
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Wow! Great start and green stuff work! That really conveys feeling.
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Wow! Excellent work.
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Cracking mate! With a lot of red gore painted on there and some after-after-battle stragglers, you are going to be able to get some great theatrical shots. Going to copy any scenes from the programme?
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A really interesting idea, and your test piece looks excellent!
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I hope you haven’t picked The Battle of the Bastards for your inspiration; that’s an awful lot of bodies to sort out lol
What a horrible battle field stew that was! When Ramsay Bolton gets his comeuppance after the battle is one of my favorite scenes of the whole series.
Pull this one off, Akula, and I wager you will have a serious top contender.
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This s very good :-*. I will follow with interest.
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Already brilliant! :)
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They look like a dogs breakfast, which given the role of Bolton is most apt.
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That’s such a great idea!
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Painting is going to be a bast.....
looking forward to the progress
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Thanks everyone for your comments, much appreciated.
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Will this remain a test piece, of will you incorporate it into the larger whole?
It will potentially be one of up to 16 “components” that get added onto the bases...unless I sculpt something better...dependent upon time.
Going to copy any scenes from the programme?
Nothing specific in mind, just the general sense of destruction and loss.
Painting is going to be a bast.....
looking forward to the progress
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True, especially as my painting is as “imprecise” as my sculpting.....maybe I’ll just cover it in snow and call it a day.
Had a bit of time today to work on a second “component” today....roughly a similar size to the test-piece.
(https://i.imgur.com/6qUzg9m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c0Wi9kQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8wOvP5a.jpg)
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Managed to get another couple of quick pieces finished
The fallen knight is a mix of 3 perry kits, plus a metal crooked dice head, and a bit of green stuff of course.
(https://i.imgur.com/rFJoge6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2OUtN3K.jpg)
I’m also thinking about having some minor water features - the unfortunate archer is based on a perry sprue.
Made a rough looking crossbow for him, as I don’t really like the perry ones for some reason I can’t explain, plus it helps to keep the part count down.
(https://i.imgur.com/cSVsIMN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZYPeH74.jpg)
As mentioned previously the advantage of making individual “components” is that I can swop them around a bit before I attach them to the bases permanently. It also means that I can create some natural looking pathways through the base, as I’m mindful of the following excerpt from the rules....not sure I want to risk balancing figures on top of a mountain of corpses, so this seems the safer way to go
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make sure it is a practical gaming piece; even though it may be rough ground or water you should be able to place miniatures on it.
(https://i.imgur.com/2Gg7HqZ.jpg)
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Brilliant additions. :-*
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Great work Matt, it’s looking really good (or really bad, which is good :)) 8)
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Cracking job
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very nice start :-*
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excellent stuff
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Love them. They set the right theme/gore level for the programne! Those pools/water features have got to be pools of blood!
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Managed to finish another component...larger than the others todate
(https://i.imgur.com/qc8UiJZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kzlcp7p.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Utt5pj9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sZrHQ0H.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9qYNifr.jpg)
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You’ve got a real knack for this :D 8)
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Theres going to be no one alive left in Westeros, going by the bodycount! ;)
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Fabulous 8)
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Akula,
Just dam. Now all you need is someone to be doing carnage angles. Similar to this but with entrails and more blood.
(https://www.howcast.com/.image/ar_4:3%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTU5NzA0NTYyMTUxOTI0ODQx/a-how-to-make-snow-angels-promo-image.jpg)
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Cheers all, thank you for the words of encouragement :)
@snitchythedog.... “carnage angels” ... I love it lol
Quick update - a few more components done.
(https://i.imgur.com/VXuoS4z.jpg)
A few more to do and then need to decide which sits on which base :)
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Really impressive work Matt. Painting that's going to be fun!
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Looking Good
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Fantastic mate! :-*
Is it wrong to say, I prefer all the separate pieces as opposed to the big single base they all go on to?
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I agree the individual bases look fantastic...use the mdf for another grand idea!
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These look great. Do I spot a pile of intestines on the base in the bottom right hand corner of the most recent photo? You will need a strong stomach to paint your entry!
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Cheers all, thank you for the words of encouragement :)
@snitchythedog.... “carnage angels” ... I love it lol
Quick update - a few more components done.
(https://i.imgur.com/VXuoS4z.jpg)
A few more to do and then need to decide which sits on which base :)
I can tell you are having way too much fun with all this blodshed.
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Really impressive work Matt. Painting that's going to be fun!
I think Colin has it right, when he said it’s going to be a bast@&£ to paint lol
Is it wrong to say, I prefer all the separate pieces as opposed to the big single base they all go on to?
I agree the individual bases look fantastic...use the mdf for another grand idea!
I agree actually, but I’m going to have to combine them to meet the rules of the BSC ...or limit myself to only 6 of the bases, and that would be like choosing between my children ;)
Technically the rules say you “move through” the difficult terrain, so I think the larger bases will allow me to create some pathways through the carnage....and then there are those pools of blood that Andy wants me to splash everywhere, so what’s a guy to do?
These look great. Do I spot a pile of intestines on the base in the bottom right hand corner of the most recent photo? You will need a strong stomach to paint your entry!
Guilty as charged. I’ll be honest, before ensuring that the leg positions for the dead horses were more natural, I did a quick google search... not something I’d repeat through choice :'(
The terrain is meant to be “difficult” in more ways than one - Clach Umha was spot on before...
Indeed, 'difficult terrain', pyschologically, emotionally & physically
I can tell you are having way too much fun with all this bloodshed.
Well normally I just slap a bit of paint on my figures, but I’m trying to (uncharacteristically) put a bit of thought into these...some of the scenes are meant to tell a little story, and that part is I guess fun to try to think through.
Oh...and I haven’t added the crows yet.
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All the bases together will create an absolute horrendous location; you sure don't do anything half-bothered, and the sculpting looks great.
This could be extra nightmare fuel, if you combine it with a zombie scenario! :o
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In terms of detail level this is shaping up to be the most impressive BSC entry so far and it's only going to get better as you paint it!
Looking forward to seeing how you put your subassemblies onto the larger bases!
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All the bases together will create an absolute horrendous location; you sure don't do anything half-bothered, and the sculpting looks great.
This could be extra nightmare fuel, if you combine it with a zombie scenario! :o
Thank you mate, much appreciated.
As for zombie scenarios, I plan on using the terrain for my Game of Thrones project, so the dead being reanimated is a definite possibility ;)
In terms of detail level this is shaping up to be the most impressive BSC entry so far and it's only going to get better as you paint it!
Looking forward to seeing how you put your subassemblies onto the larger bases!
Very kind of you to say so, although I think the line up of LAF’ers this year is one of the most impressive I can remember, and there is still plenty of time for me to screw up my entry lol
I’ve mentally rearranged the components about a dozen times already...every time I make another piece it changes the layout....just need to make sure I don’t get too carried away in the sculpting stage, as I’ve still got to blend the different parts together on the bases, and paint everything etc
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Really impressive work so far, though I'm not sure I want to see it in color lol
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Just the one from me today...
...can’t decide if he propped himself up against the tree stump, or had help...and then took off his helmet to quench his thirst.
Deal or alive...hmm...
Will try and tidy up his hands later....was too busy trying to work out how the padded sleeves would (or wouldn’t) crease...oh well.
(https://i.imgur.com/DVF3y7Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ITgieuc.jpg)
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Just managed to finish the next piece on my lunch break and thought I’d share :D
Given the title of my entry I thought it was only right to introduce the crows to the action...the intestinal gribblies are some fine wire that has been wrapped back on itself, and then a quick coating of liquid green stuff...I’ll add a TCR cocktail to the mix at the painting stage later on.
(https://i.imgur.com/AgQkP5Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LuwEwLt.jpg)
I also took a quick photo with the last component, as I think they go well together...what do you think?
(https://i.imgur.com/Y1ULf9e.jpg)
Not sure I like the way that crow is eyeing him up....
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Dude!!....my lunch! A little warning! lol lol lol
Seriously though....brill! 8)
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greusome :o :o :o
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This will look horrible when it is painted. :o
........but in a good way. lol
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Those are brilliant, great concepts and very well done.
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They’re very clever Matt. 8)
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This will look horrible when it is painted. :o
I can just imagine gallons of coagulated blood everywhere. I agree with Akula that this will be a nightmare to paint but, as there is lots of gore he should not have to nail all the details. Maybe use the toothbrush splatter method for spraying droplets of blood everywhere that is not pooled.
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Great work Matt,all I can say is ‘erk’ lol
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Thanks everyone, for your comments and support...just need to finish off blending all the components together and then on with the painting. :D
Smiling & humbled you clicked with my sentiment sir :) Coincidently, a week ago I was thinking on that very comment I made, & if I am allowed to under the rules, I am after rumminating on my own words going to be changing my build from the Hill Fort terrain to something far, far darker.
Being that you have the stomach for such matters, evidently so lol, & after I get a Yay or Nay from the Hammers in allowance of changing direction, I may run the concept past you first if you'd be willing. It in no way breaches or mimics what you are doing, nor anyone else come to that, so no fret there, but I think you will be able to give me good forecast as to how it may or may not taken on by my fellow LAFers, as mentioned, it is very, very dark, thematically & visually. For certain it will prove an NSFW. I will then seek a further Yay or Nay from admin after your input.
If you don't have the time, no probs man, so genuinely, no pressure & no hard feelings if unable or simply don't want to :).
Cheers.
More than happy to discuss your concept if you want to PM me, but if Hammers says it’s within the rules I’d say go for it....I’m not sure that I’m qualified to speak for the LAF’ers hive mind.
As for ‘having a similar idea’ I’m not precious about this, so if there is something you want to build then do it...I look forward to seeing what you come up with :)
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Seriously not a problem... if anything I look forward to seeing what you come up with, as it might spur me on.
Have been snowed under with work the last week or so, and so haven’t made any progress....aiming to tidy up the components and get everything knitted together this weekend, as I suspect I’m going to need as much time as possible for the paint side of things....
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Finally back to it after being crazy busy at work, and injuring my arm ;D
Bit more progress today - everything is now attached to the bases, and more milliput applied.
(https://i.imgur.com/qsorq3R.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/41XaczK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gyBwELR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/n9ns9LM.jpg)
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AKULA,
This is looking better and better. I look forward to seeing the board painted up!
Lon
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Good grief, that does look very nicely done. :o 8)
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Akula, too bad we are running down on time. You could have added some peasants looting the dead onto one of the bases.
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Thanks everyone :)
Akula, too bad we are running down on time. You could have added some peasants looting the dead onto one of the bases.
I did think about looters, but to be honest I like it better with just the crows
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Forgot to post some group shots
(https://i.imgur.com/kXRKvHR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pHxpJnz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0til3pa.jpg)
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That’s so great!
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It looks fantastic - I am really looking forward to the finished version.
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It looks fantastic - I am really looking forward to the finished version.
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Very snazzy altogether. Another +1 waiting to see it painted.
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Here; have another +1! ;)
Painting is going to be yet another monumentous task though; so many details!
The end result is going to be impressive to say the least.
Do you have enough Tamiya Clear Red stocked? ;D
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It looks fantastic - I am really looking forward to the finished version.
Totally agree! But I'd rather see the fully dressed up shot with troops and stuff representing a bloody battlefield. Its a shame we are only going to get shots with plain backgrounds first! :(
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Do you have enough Tamiya Clear Red stocked? ;D
Everyone keeps saying that, but I’m really not sure I’ll need that much...it’s not the Texas Chainsaw massacre ;) lol
Totally agree! But I'd rather see the fully dressed up shot with troops and stuff representing a bloody battlefield. Its a shame we are only going to get shots with plain backgrounds first! :(
You will just have to vote for it, so I get through to the final....or wait until after the BSC is over I guess lol
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The least exciting update in the history of updates....added a bit of sand to blend everything together and provide some more texture.
(https://i.imgur.com/8g5qRCf.jpg)
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No more photos as I’ve started painting ... well ... mostly holding my head in my hands whilst muttering “what have I done” ... but you get the idea.
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Wow, another project that I am impatiently waiting to see finished!
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Another incredibly detailed set of terrain. Gruesome but very well done.
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Photo sent, look forward to seeing everyone else’s in a couple of weeks time
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Looking forward to seeing this.
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This is going to be wonderfully gruesome when it is all painted up... :o lol
Mike Demana
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
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Now that the BSC has finished, I can add a few more photos with some paint splashed on.
An aerial shot before winter arrives. Shows the pathways through the detritus, where figures can be placed.
This is pre-gore...I used TCR..Tamiya Clear Red with a bit of black mixed in. Tried not to overdo the gore as I figured that most would seep into the ground, so no rivers of blood...sorry :D
(https://i.imgur.com/ykm9uLV.jpg)
“winter is coming”
(https://i.imgur.com/JVZa0Mt.jpg)
This was the setup for the final photo...I’m not a great photographer, and all I’ve got is a battered old iPhone, so the pictures were quite tricky tbh. Normally I’d obviously focus upon the figures, and the terrain would be a comforting blur in the background, but given it’s a terrain competition, the roles were reversed its time.
Game of Thrones fans will hopefully recognise the picture as a homage to the “Battle of the Bastards”... IMHO the best battle scene of GoT, and one of the most gritty I can recall viewing on TV/in a film.
For non-GoT fans, the hero and his followers have been partially surrounded, and pressed back against a wall of corpses...as some try to escape the approaching wall of spears they try to find a way through the corpses, only to be attacked by more of the enemy. To get the right feel, I used something like 200-250 figures
(https://i.imgur.com/7w5fIMp.jpg)
If you are interested, more on my Game of Thrones project on this thread:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=113100.0
...and of course, the final photo
(https://i.imgur.com/pckE3R6.jpg?1)
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Great stuff :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Fabulous Matt. Epic in every way. Well done indeed 8)
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EPIC!!!
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A feast for the eyes... lol
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WITNESS!!
Amazing just amazing
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Man that is horrible...
I love it!!!
Needs more crows though lol