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Title: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on April 23, 2021, 03:58:33 AM
Well, I had a few half-cooked ideas for this and was debating on even entering- then I realized today that I have a project I need to start in order to continue my Rangers of Shadow Deep campaign. Essentially its a board that is mostly composed of steep stairs... so here's the placeholder :)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: AKULA on April 23, 2021, 07:52:30 AM
Look forward to seeing your progress mate - stairs are one of those things I don’t enjoy making, so full credit to you for going out of your way to build some.

 :)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Daeothar on April 23, 2021, 08:10:08 AM
That one sentence already evokes so many images; can't wait to see what you'll come up with!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 25, 2021, 07:45:14 PM
Little progress so far. This was a tough year to be a school teacher, but I'm now that the semester is over I can get crackin' on personal projects.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-250521184027.jpeg)

My original plan was to use Hirst blocks to slowly work up the 30 inches of table, a 1/4" rise every inch, so it would end up being about 8" high at the end.

That's not quite the 60 degree angle the scenario describes, and my method doesn't have the fear factor of a steep gradient. Most people that run this just abstract it and use a flat table, I have seen a few crazy people make a dimensional version with a heavy slope. I'm trying to decide if I am that dedicated :)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Codsticker on May 26, 2021, 02:27:56 AM
Better late than...  well... you better get a move on as there is only about a week and half to go!  ;D
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 26, 2021, 02:18:11 PM
Better late than...  well... you better get a move on as there is only about a week and half to go!  ;D

Plenty of time ;)

I have another method in mind that might end up being lighter, easier, and more steep :)
Generally, I tend to ruminate over things quite a while and get the good ideas toward the deadline  lol
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Captain Blood on May 26, 2021, 02:49:17 PM
I already think you’re going to win, Matt  lol

I know what you’re capable of!

Looking forward to seeing how it comes together :)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 26, 2021, 04:28:39 PM
I already think you’re going to win, Matt  lol

lol
No chance on this one, I'm not usually a contender on the 'Build Somethings', which is fine with me- its all about getting something done. Last year's ruined building gets a heck of a lot of use.

I just need to get this thing done to advance the campaign my friend and I are playing!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 27, 2021, 01:03:59 AM
After a literal trip "back to the to the drawing board" and some use of the Pythagorean Theorem, I scrapped my first idea and went with a 60 degree slope. Before the overall height was a paltry seven inches, now it is 24! This provides the threateningly steep feeling the scenario specifies, and I think I can actually widen the 'platforms' for accommodating figures.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-260521235825.jpeg)

Thus far the build is made from 'gator foam', a lightweight and stronger version of foamcore (also much more pricey). I'll likely ditch the Hirst blocks and go with regular insulation foam.

Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Andym on May 27, 2021, 06:49:29 AM
Wow! Thats defineatley a LOT more dramatic than your first version!! :o .You're going to need a bigger hobby room! Knowing your past works, this is going to be a corker!! o_o o_o o_o
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: pistolpete on May 27, 2021, 01:46:43 PM
Much more intimidating than the first version.  Definitely meets the difficult criteria imho.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 27, 2021, 04:22:45 PM
Much more intimidating than the first version.  Definitely meets the difficult criteria imho.

Agreed :)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-270521151701.jpeg)

The main pathway is done, as well as 'fly hole' platforms and the teasure marker area. Currently testing the width as I want to make the holes removable, and they need to be large enough to place the giant fly base inside.

Next, adding more platforms under all the areas a Ranger could fall, rounding edges to mitigate the blocky look, and then building up rocky textures.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: AKULA on May 27, 2021, 09:00:01 PM
Wow....simply WOW

This is going to be great   :o :o
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Daeothar on May 27, 2021, 10:19:33 PM
Awesome; now that's a set of stairs only a ranger could love! 8)

And I hate to break it to you, but your pet coral snake has escaped apparently...
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: pistolpete on May 28, 2021, 03:48:42 AM
Fantastic work!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 28, 2021, 06:22:56 AM
Looks great  :)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 28, 2021, 06:08:11 PM
And I hate to break it to you, but your pet coral snake has escaped apparently...

Haha, good eyes... that's a stick I found several years ago on a camping trip, that I painted in a 'folk art' style :)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-280521170333-514662379.jpeg)

This build is definitely in the 'ugly as hell' stage. I need to wait for the spray foam to cure so I can trim it up. After a layer of paper tissue to unite it, and texturing, it should be along the lines of what I'm envisioning.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-280521170226.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-280521170333-514631020.jpeg)



Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Ogrob on May 28, 2021, 06:34:49 PM
Looks very promising I think! Certainly way more dramatic than my take on the same scenario,
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Codsticker on May 29, 2021, 02:37:09 AM
Very impressive update since I last posted. lol
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Vanvlak on May 29, 2021, 07:01:37 AM
That is going to look good  :o
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Blackwolf on May 29, 2021, 07:44:29 AM
Wow! That is fantastic,I really really like this :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: pistolpete on May 29, 2021, 10:15:59 PM
Damn fine work.  I’ve never used spray foam. Was it hard to work with?
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Kikuchiyo on May 29, 2021, 10:59:50 PM
My boys are retired but if there was ever an adventure into the deep...
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on May 30, 2021, 04:36:06 PM
Damn fine work.  I’ve never used spray foam. Was it hard to work with?

I wouldn't say it is hard to use; it expands quick, and then slowly continues to expand- so it does tend to project beyond what you want to actually fill. It is very easy to cut and shape though, so that may be an advantage.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 30, 2021, 04:49:28 PM
wow
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Will Bailie on May 31, 2021, 06:38:39 PM
I am in awe!  What an amazing project  :o
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on June 01, 2021, 02:31:17 AM
These are probably the last two pics before the real painting starts.

To tie things together and start introducing texture, I used my tried-and-true method of utilizing toilet paper and Mod-Podge or acrylic polymer medium. I added gray paint and some sand to the mix to be able to tell where I'd been easily. A little over a year ago, using TP would have been like covering a piece in gold leaf  lol

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-010621012753.jpeg)

After this I added some rocks and sand to the nooks and crannies.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-010621012810.jpeg)

Next, I'll use the airbrush to darken everything and to get in the crevices, then on to the real painting.



Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: syrinx0 on June 01, 2021, 03:54:50 AM
That is an excellent way to unify and blend all the textures and levels. This will be one dangerous set of stairs.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: AKULA on June 01, 2021, 07:08:23 AM
Excellent progress  8)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Vanvlak on June 01, 2021, 11:08:41 AM
Good grief, you'd need a risk assessment to climb up that!  :D
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on June 03, 2021, 11:11:47 PM
Majority of painting is done with the main build, I just need to add some moss and foliage here and there.

I also want to add in a couple of scenic features, bones lying about, etc. but the only one I think I can show via photo is a large bird nest:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/4060-030621220735.jpeg)

This was made by pressing a bunch of little pieces cut from furnace filter into some greenstuff, shaped with an '"Instant Mold" I had laying about.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on June 08, 2021, 11:36:20 PM
Well, the pics have been fired off- another BSC done and dusted. This one was a fairly difficult thing to photo and I needed to break out my big black piece of Space Hulk felt for a backdrop  lol
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: pistolpete on June 09, 2021, 12:29:53 AM
Can’t wait to see the finished work.  I had to use a gray bed sheet.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Clach Umha on June 10, 2021, 11:33:11 PM
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Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: mikedemana on June 19, 2021, 04:58:26 PM
This was a tough year to be a school teacher, but I'm now that the semester is over I can get crackin' on personal projects.

I agree wholeheartedly, Matt. I would say it was the second toughest in my 11 years of teaching. So, congrats to you for having the energy to undertake this after what I'm sure was an exhausting year. Looks fantastic! You'll have to take photos and post a game report when you guys play the scenario on it!!  :-*

Mike Demana
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Bloggard on July 03, 2021, 09:54:58 AM
fantastic  :-*
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Hammers on July 15, 2021, 09:38:57 PM
A most excellent build!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on July 17, 2021, 05:55:31 AM
Thanks for the kind words gents :)

Had a chance to play the "Broken Stairs" two days ago, I'll post some more pics when I get a chance. In the meantime here's my friend contemplating the approach of multiple giant flies...

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/52/4060-170721044409.jpeg)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Blackwolf on July 17, 2021, 07:23:02 AM
A spectacular build DR M.  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Lost Egg on July 17, 2021, 09:17:34 AM
Simply awesome. Very atmospheric and characterful.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: AKULA on July 17, 2021, 09:20:41 AM
Great to see it being used already, one of my favourite builds of the competition

 8)
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: beefcake on July 17, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
Very cool. I liked this one a lot. Just finished the scenario after this one with the farmhouse in the woods.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: beefcake on July 17, 2021, 09:22:05 AM
Have you made cards with all the stats for shadowdeep on them? Are they available to buy somewhere or home made?
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: 2010sunburst on July 17, 2021, 10:20:20 AM
That is really cool.  It looked great in the compo pictures, but this shows it’s true colours.  Excellent stuff!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: pistolpete on July 17, 2021, 12:26:04 PM
Wow. Looks even better in use!  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on July 17, 2021, 06:46:25 PM
Thanks all :)

Have you made cards with all the stats for shadowdeep on them? Are they available to buy somewhere or home made?

Officially produced stat cards :)

Just received them that day in fact! They're really high quality. Worth it for me because I spend a lot of time looking up stats in the book  lol

Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 17, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Brilliant work!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: beefcake on July 17, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Thanks all :)

Officially produced stat cards :)

Just received them that day in fact! They're really high quality. Worth it for me because I spend a lot of time looking up stats in the book  lol
I know what you mean. I spend it between going to stats, back to the mission to see what card is the event.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on July 20, 2021, 02:35:32 AM
Okay, I got a chance to dump a bunch of pics on the blog:

Dr. Mathias's Miniature Extravaganza (https://miniatureextravaganza.blogspot.com/2021/07/rangers-of-shadow-deep-broken-stairs.html)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yDryu0d7eSA/YPYe-OzF_sI/AAAAAAAACxQ/wjWf5VROaLQyARPsWh7e764_jjITuJs7wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1333/Broken-Stairs-Playtest-14.JPG)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ERXcsQlmwnw/YPYe9sCaiXI/AAAAAAAACxM/haXaeKlrJW0MDI5AK_iTd3ocofDLjFWKACLcBGAsYHQ/s1333/Broken-Stairs-Playtest-13.JPG)



Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Codsticker on July 20, 2021, 03:36:20 AM
Great photos Dr.!
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: pistolpete on July 22, 2021, 12:50:06 PM
Even more goodnes. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Romark on July 27, 2021, 08:47:45 AM
Terrific piece of scenery :-*
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Kikuchiyo on July 27, 2021, 10:17:54 AM
now to figure out how you can play out more scenarios on that board

it's too good just for the one
Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: Dr Mathias on July 27, 2021, 06:01:17 PM
now to figure out how you can play out more scenarios on that board

it's too good just for the one

There's a suggestion in the rulebook that players go back through the three missions, return journey with survivors from the third mission. Would be tough as hell :)
I also imagine going up the stairs would be even worse :)

Title: Re: BSC2021 Dr Mathias's Steep Stairs into Shadow Deep
Post by: syrinx0 on August 04, 2021, 03:20:25 AM
Might be hard to return that way but it would make for more excellent photo's.   :)