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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: AKULA on April 23, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
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(https://i.imgur.com/YYcjAeD.jpg)
“After the Bomb” - the starting idea
Twilight 2000 as a setting is obviously an influence, but the main source of inspiration is actually the short-lived Jericho TV Series, set in the US...again with the focus upon a small town, post a nuclear event. The game will be as much about scavenging for supplies, and protecting what you’ve already got, as out and out combat, although I expect there will be plenty of scope for that as well.
- set in early/mid-1980s in the north east of England
- takes place post a “limited” nuclear exchange between NATO & USSR
- Games will centre around a village/small town & how it’s inhabitants fare
- focus on scavenge and survival
- rules will probably end up being homegrown
- will fictionalise place names, but based in part on actual locations (please avoid naming real towns in the thread)
Thread Index - Key Pages
Page 1 - Game Outline, Reference Material & Useful Links
Page 2 - Campaign Map, List of locations & initial figure WIPS (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.15)
Page 3 - Painted British Soldiers, Regional HQs & Bunker Locations (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.30)
Page 4 - Bedfords & Saracens (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.45)
Page 5 - Police Cars (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.60)
Page 7 - US Army Vehicles, British Police & Tents (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.90)
Page 8 - More Police, RAF Personnel & Royal Observer Corps (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.105)
Page 9 - Supply Counters, Police Mobile Command Centre & Army Supply Convoy (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.120)
Page 10 - Fire Engine & Green Goddess Proxy (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.135)
Page 11 - RAF Chevette plus helos...Lynx, Wessex & Sea King (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.150)
Page 12 - Landrover with Wombat (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.165)
Page 14 - Ambulance crew plus a second landrover (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.195)
Page 15 - Territorial Army plus more Regulars (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.210)
Page 16 - RAF Chipmunk, Soviets in Snow suits plus a AN-2 Colt (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.225)
Page 17 - More Soviet Airborne plus Soviet Vehicles (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.240)
Page 18 - Soviet AA HMGs plus British Snipers (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.255)
Page 19 - A HUGE AN-12 Cub Transport Plane & a platoon of US M1 Abrams Tanks (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.270)
Page 20 - Loads of Soviet armour/vehicles plus some British civilian vehicles (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.285)
Page 21 - SU-7 Fitter Soviet Ground Attack Aircraft (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.300)
Page 22 - Soviet Mi-8 Helicopter (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.315)
Page 23 - More Soviets, another Mi-8, a Mi-24 Hind & a RAF Rapier SAM (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.330)
Page 25 - A Soviet RPU-14 MRL plus....an Ice Cream Van (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.360)
Page 26 - Wartime Leader...with Handbag (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.375)
Page 27 - More Brits including a General (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.390)
Page 28 - More vehicles...Military, Police & civilian (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.405)
Page 29 - Another refugee vehicle plus a Rapier Supply Trailer (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.420)
Page 30 - Farmer in his Landrover (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.435)
Page 31 - Police Support Unit Vans (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130954.450)
Useful links
Probable Target List(within the UK)
https://www.robedwards.com/2014/06/revealed-the-106-cold-war-nuclear-targets-across-the-uk.html
https://robedwards.typepad.com/files/probable-nuclear-targets-1972-national-archives.pdf
Governing Britain After The Bomb
https://www.subbrit.org.uk/features/struggle-for-survival/
“Target NorthWest - Defence Preparedness”
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/110194.pdf?v=76a08c0ba94dc5109274c2014ba19e88
Home Defence & Emergency Planning
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/osp14.pdf
http://www.civildefenceassociation.org.uk/HistCDWebA5V5.pdf
Civil Defence Rescue Manual
https://era.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/1842/5384/A12.CD.H7%20Civil%20Defence%20Handbook%20no%207%20Rescue.pdf;jsessionid=479002CD5CA36F512040074BE12C98F4?sequence=1
UK Cold War Communications - UKWMO, Royal Observer Corps
http://www.ringbell.co.uk/ukwmo/Page221.htm
ORBATs
https://coldwargamer.blogspot.com/2012/05/orbat-1980s-british-bg-part-7-infantry.html
https://www.battleorder.org/military-organization
https://www.fireandfury.com/orbats/modcwbritish.pdf
Reference material
To come up with the setting, I’ve looked at some contemporary sources to give a flavour of what I have in mind. First up there is a 1982 pamphlet “Target NorthWest” which while it makes a lot of assumptions, does tackle the main issues, such as fallout, communications, food etc
(https://i.imgur.com/pl0NvTo.jpg)
I’ve also looked at a couple of different contemporary UK Government studies for what a UK target list may or may not look like.
(https://i.imgur.com/lunWqCa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GMUNdZx.jpg)
As the various papers/scenarios (such as Operation Square Leg) talk of a range of anything between 150-1000 megatons being used against the UK in an all out nuclear exchange, I’m going to go for a more “limited” scenario....otherwise the game will only consist of cockroaches, especially as the fallout will be spread over a wide area by the prevailing wind ;)
That’s it for now...my next post will set out the general surroundings for the campaign map
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Oh come on, that map was long ago revealed as part of desperate joint marketing effort by Stoke and Swansea’s respective tourism boards to encourage people to visit. Let’s face it, what else would work?
Visit Stoke-on-Trent. Last on Anyone’s List to be Nuked.
:)
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If you drop enough bombs you will not need many figures or trucks. Not sure I like this project lol
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If you drop enough bombs you will not need many figures or trucks. Not sure I like this project lol
Don't worry, Akky will be doing it at 1:1 scale so you'll still be able to retire early ;)
Looking forward to seeing how this pans out 8)
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I'm just hoping the Bed sitting room is amongst your inspiration file.
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Looks great Matt 8
Hopefully it’ll inspire me to do more with my own late 70s early 80s post apoc project for which I’ve assembled a load of bikers, moped riders, quad bikes, etc (I’m playing fast and loose with history as well) - no A bomb for me though, just oil shortages, virus, breakdown of society..... :D
Am very much looking forward to following progress. :P
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Poor old Preston was high on the list though a time traveller visiting today from the early 80's may think the missiles had been flung about! I look forward to your work with this interesting idea.
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Oh come on, that map was long ago revealed as part of desperate joint marketing effort by Stoke and Swansea’s respective tourism boards to encourage people to visit. Let’s face it, what else would work?
Visit Stoke-on-Trent. Last on Anyone’s List to be Nuked.
:)
Here was me thinking this map represented the fact that Stoke has actually been A-bombed. Not sure I could tell the difference day to day. ;) I mean it's not like a USSR nuke would make that much of a difference to the streets here, probably clean them to a nice glow.
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Matt,
with the new Version of TW2000 I was also in the mood for it. But I tend more to a 21st century RCW. It is a very old idea from the inspiration of the Copplestone Nebo-soviets.
But I hope you show more of your stuff here. Very interesting and exciting.
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I look forward to seeing how this goes.
Do not forget Threads and The War Game.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M_JB7UcIew0/XCOvdjvrbJI/AAAAAAAAEhE/dCCP5h0ku_sU48fzkgeOwiceCcSCX6aCgCLcBGAs/s1600/festiveviewing.png)
I have not actually eaten the Spam yet.
The Death of Grass by John Christopher is an interesting view on on how things go down hill.
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I'm really into creating my own settings for games as well (not so much rules...I'll leverage the hard work of betters), so am following this project.
Also, as an American military brat living abroad (W. Germany) through the entire 80s, 80's cold-war-gone-hot/WWIII scenarios in Europe are of interest.
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Brilliant. What a great idea.
But Salcombe? lol
The yachties will be the first to die >:D
Ah, those Russians... ;)
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At a guess, at least one of those USAF ‘airbases’ on that map is the former CFS at RAF Little Rissington, which the tin tanks were using as a military hospital at the time. Not sure that would have been a priority target for the Soviets.
So maybe Stow-on-the-Wold (where the wind blows cold) or Bourton-on-the-Water would be safe spots?With the latter you get the added advantage of creating a miniature village that has it’s own miniature village (6mm buildings set inside a 28mm town?)
Whatever you do avoid Mid Somer, it has a higher casualty rate than any post nuclear exchange wasteland. ;)
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What about setting in the town you live?...or where you were brought up? Or even a recognisable city? You could make specific scenery from your town? Even if your location gets blasted during the apocalypse, the survivors going back in after the devastation to salvage stuff, would make a good game. Just because the bombs dropped in the 80's would mean its all 80's tech, but it could be set later when the fallout ain't so bad.
Loving where your going with this mate! I had some good pictures of a post apocalyptic London somewhere....
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So maybe Stow-on-the-Wold (where the wind blows cold) or Bourton-on-the-Water would be safe spots?With the latter you get the added advantage of creating a miniature village that has it’s own miniature village (6mm buildings set inside a 28mm town?)
Oh my word this is an amazing idea! :))))
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If I remember correctly the model village in Bourton-on-the-Water has a model village itself but maybe that is getting too recursive. :D
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You might find this book of interest
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If I remember correctly the model village in Bourton-on-the-Water has a model village itself but maybe that is getting too recursive. :D
Does the model village in the model village have its own model village too? And does that one...
Never mind, my head hurts now.
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Looking forward to seeing this develop. I like your inspiration sources.
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Not got enough to do with recreating Westeros? lol
This sounds very cool though.
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Does the model village in the model village have its own model village too? And does that one...
Never mind, my head hurts now.
The road to madness rises beyond.....
Does Birdland feature a mini birdland replete with tiny penguins?
Why did Sir Peter Scott reside there for a period? Was he planning to camouflage the whole village in a Western Approaches camouflage scheme or did he indeed believe the old stories that Loch Ness and Gloucestershire were linked by an underground branch of the Windrush?
Was the Laurie Lee that strode the banks of the Windrush in the 1960s merely an animatronic version of the noted author and Spanish Civil War veteran, commissioned to lure in tourists and add a degree of realism to what was already becoming a somewhat twee locale?
Would it make a better setting for Carnevale resting on its soubriquet as the Venice of the Cotswalds?
What made Harry Oakey’s sausages so moreish? Was it the sawdust, the breadcrumbs? Or some infernal and other worldly condiment he had entered into a Faustian pact to acquire? Inquiring minds must know!
Plus there’s a fiver in it for anyone who finds my toy tractor in the Windrush that I hurled from my pram at a tender age. :)
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Thank you everyone for your comments...I honestly wasn’t sure if anyone would be interested tbh but your posts will keep me motivated :D
Not got enough to do with recreating Westeros? lol
This sounds very cool though.
Nah....need another project just to keep me fresh :)
What about setting in the town you live?...or where you were brought up? Or even a recognisable city? You could make specific scenery from your town?
Part of the plan ;)
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Ok, part two....the map and surroundings....
This is intentionally a roughly draw representation of the locations and major roads....could be a bit off...and minor roads and country lanes are missing ;)
I’ll look to add something that looks more like an old OS map at some point, but this is really from the perspective of a junior officer, unfamiliar with the local area...so basically it’s what he has cobbled together from his NCOs, and any locals to hand.
(https://i.imgur.com/2IaYHXg.jpg)
Place names are intentionally fictionalised...I appreciate it would be easy to show your geographical knowledge and give the real place names, but try to avoid...just trying to avoid actual locations appearing on google searches with descriptions of a nuclear attack ;)
The following is the basic info that the junior officer has managed to piece together from local sources and garbled radio communications....designed to give a bit of a feel for the region...not saying everything mentioned will come into play.
Place descriptions
Aldcastle
Medieval walled city, major railway station, hospital, centre of regional government. Army barracks. Regional police HQ. Racecourse. Believed to have been largely destroyed by a single bomb (est. 500kt airburst) and the firestorm that followed.
Ashwood
Medium-sized village, doctors surgery, small police station. Small airfield (ex-RAF WW2 grass strip) possible private light aircraft. Farm on west side towards Stonebridge (pigs).
Barcaster
Small town, doctors surgery, police station, brewery. Presumed badly irradiated by the Aldcastle bomb, possible fire damage, plus fallout from Woolton.
Birchwold (RAF)
Radar station near Easthampton. Base believed destroyed by an airburst (500Kt?)
Dundale
Small market town, doctors surgery, police station. Couple small farms nearby. Airfield (ex-RAF WW2 bomber field) concrete runways, hangars, light private aircraft. Possible machine shop at airfield.
Easthampton
Large town (seaside resort), hospital, police station, harbour, fishing boats (?), Factory (makes coaches). Town likely heavily damaged and irradiated due to bomb that exploded over RAF Birchwold.
Foxwell (RAF)
Radar station near Oxmouth. Base believed destroyed by an airburst (500Kt?)
Hazelbrook
Market town, local government council offices, two hospitals. Just to the west of the town is a racecourse and stables. Two miles north of the town is the Army Driver Training Centre. Possible fire damage and fallout from attack on nearby Oxmouth. Farms nearby ...uncertain of condition or exact location.
Hopdale
Medium-sized town, hospital. Likely in the path of substantial fallout from multiple destinations near Woolton to the southwest.
Kinington
Small market town. Police station, doctors surgery. To the east of the town is a racecourse/stables, and a prison. 5 miles to the north east is a former WW2 airfield (concrete runway) believed to be used for civilian use. Town is likely to have been heavily irradiated by fallout from the bombs that hit Woolton (to the southwest).
Kirkbeck
Small hamlet at foot of the moors. No strategic importance.
Langfield
Small market town. Police station, small hospital.
Loxham (RAF)
The runway is used by the RN for training pilots as a backup field. The bulk of the base is now used by the Royal Artillery as an ordnance park.
Market Overton
Small market town. Police station, Doctors surgery. Surrounded by 4 small farms (2 crops, 1 pig, 1 cows)
Marsby
Small market town. Police station, Doctors surgery. Several farms nearby. Racecourse with stables just to the west of the town. Four miles to the west of the town is RAF Loxham. About 5 miles to the north of the town (midway between Marsby and Northdale) is the Regional Police Headquarters.
Middleport
Large town, port facilities and industrial chemical plant. Large police station, hospital. Believed to be completely destroyed (est. 1 megaton ground strike).
Moorton
Market town. Police station, small hospital. To the north of the town is an abandoned WW2 POW camp. A number of farms nearby. The area may have been in the path of the fallout from the Aldcastle bomb.
Newhalgh
Large town, police station, hospital. Industrial/engineering facilities. Likely to have taken substantial damaged from the Middleport attack, plus fallout from this and the Ostcrick bomb.
Northdale
Small market town, police station, small hospital. Local government office. Surrounded by farms. About 5 miles to the south of the town (midway between Northdale and Marsby) is the Regional Police Headquarters. 5 miles to the west of the town is RAF Ottermere. The condition of the town is uncertain, possible fallout from bombs at nearby Osrick.
Oakington (RAF)
Radar station and Early Warning post. Believed to be completely destroyed by multiple airbursts (2-3 x 500Kt).
Ostcrick (Army Garrison)
Large Army base, headquarters. Believed to have been completely destroyed by multiple airbursts (2-3 x 500Kt).
Ottermere (RAF)
Air base. Used for flight training. Status uncertain, possible fallout from bombs at nearby Ostcrick.
Oulwich
City, several police stations, large hospital. Steelworks and multiple machine workshops. Believed to be completely destroyed (est. 1 megaton ground strike).
Oxmouth
City, large police station, hospital. Port facilities, fishing boats. Believed to have been destroyed by several bombs (est. 500Kt each)
Portswick
Small town (seaside resort). Police station, hospital. Port, fishing boats. Likely fallout from multiple bombs that hit RAF Oakington to the southwest. Farms nearby ...uncertain of condition or exact location?
Redbrook
Village. Doctors surgery. Small farm (cows). Damaged buildings/fires caused by the Aldcastle bomb, probable fallout.
Ridgeford
Small market town. Police station, Doctors surgery. Boatyard on river. Coal mine just north of the town. Probable some fallout from the Woolton and Oulwich bombs.
Southden
Small town. Police station, hospital. Racecourse to south of town, stables. Probable in the path of substantial fallout from multiple destinations near Woolton to the south.
Stonebridge
Village. Doctors surgery. Engineering workshop (moulds/tools) on north side of river. Farm on north side (sheep/few cows) plus stables. Another farm to north east (pigs). Stone bridge only crossing other than a disused railway viaduct (brick/iron) to the west of the village. Farm south side of river, east of the village toward Ashwood (pigs).
Thornleigh
Village. Doctors surgery. Several small farms to the south of the village. Moorland starts to the north of the village (snow blocks the north bound roads up to 2 months per year).
Weston (RAF)
Minimal RAF presence (Emergency field for training flights) but v.long concrete runway. Possible fallout from Aldcastle or oulwich bombs, may be abandoned now?
Whitehaven
Coastal town. Police station, Doctors surgery. Harbour, some fishing boats. Possible some fallout from Oxmouth bombs. Farms nearby.
Woolton
Large city, several large police stations, at least a couple of hospitals. Major railway station. Manufacturing facilities. Mostly destroyed after one, maybe two bombs in the 500Kt to 1 megaton range) heavily irradiated.
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Nice map. I swear I've been on holiday to some of those places. ;)
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That is a great start (though I was surprised you did not use a modern version of Westeros ^__^).
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Thought I’d post a couple of WIPs...currently prepping some newly arrived minis, but been playing about with what I had lying around in the meantime. All still need a bit of tidying up, but I thought this thread needed some figures ;)
First up a mounted policeman...I know that Offensive and Ainsty both have some options, but I’ve got loads of sprues and green stuff on my work table currently...
The horse is Perry, the rider is a Gripping Beast Arab, and the riot helmet head is from Anvil Industry
(https://i.imgur.com/uAgt4V7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v1mUAuv.jpg)
Next up, a couple of hazmat/radiation suited individuals...not likely to be a big part of the game, but I thought they could emerge from one of the command bunkers...perhaps government scientists?
The base figures are a couple of my old space opera sculpts (currently OOP but sold to Hasslefree). The arm with the Geiger counter is a trimmed down perry spear, and the red/green oxygen tanks are the ends from a couple of old paintbrushes. The pole device is a crooked dice security camera stuck on a spare bit of spear.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ii2VtlN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VpI6vgX.jpg)
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That first photo made me think border reiver before I looked at it properly.
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What an interesting project, looking forward to seeing more. Protect and Survive lol
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Nice conversions.
Are you going to give the horses respirators?
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‘Tis a bleak project choice (after watching Threads, The War Game and The Day After anyway!!) but it’s in the safest of hands.
I too did a double take at that first picture until I realised ‘twas a bobby!
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Must. Resist. Post-Apoc…..
Mrs. GG will not be pleased with me if I try to start another genre but you are making it hard to resist mate. Great work!
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The mounted police officer reminded me of the Quatermass series that was made in the late 70's, starring Sir John Mills.
It featured mounted police who looked similar to your figure, it was based in a apocalypse impending near future, l might have to try and find it for a nostalgic viewing!
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The mounted police officer reminded me of the Quatermass series that was made in the late 70's, starring Sir John Mills.
It featured mounted police who looked similar to your figure, it was based in a apocalypse impending near future, l might have to try and find it for a nostalgic viewing!
Quartermass is on Britbox if that helps
https://www.britbox.co.uk/programme/Quatermass_52864
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Interesting project! I did a similar one in 20mm years ago.
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https://i.imgur.com/v1mUAuv.jpg
Empress do two 'undead' mounted police.
I removed mine from their bases, placed them horizontally
on new bases. If players want to search them (yeuck!) for
ammo, working weapons etc, they can. otherwise they make
nice mood setting scenery.
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Nice and gruesome.
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Thank you everyone for your comments...helps to keep me motivated :D
Are you going to give the horses respirators?
No respirators for the horses...or the cows... ;)
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Update...I thought I’d better post some painted figures, as so far Has.been has posted more than me ;) :)
Some Empress BAOR...
(https://i.imgur.com/8slW0U1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qfv2RsP.jpg)
The Army are naturally going to be a force in any ATB (after the bomb) game, given they’ve got the weapons, vehicles, organisation, training etc etc....of course, how long they maintain discipline if some form of government isn’t restored would be an interesting question...would soldiers desert to try to find their family, or would officers/NCOs be able to maintain some form of discipline to keep their unit together? And what happens if different units, desperate for food come across one another...?
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Very cool. You can do some up in civilian, police, civil defense wardens or older style uniforms to represent militias, deserters, Raider/warlord troopers. Maybe a helmet or head change would help as well.
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Nicely done!
The Army are naturally going to be a force in any ATB (after the bomb) game, given they’ve got the weapons, vehicles, organisation, training etc etc....of course, how long they maintain discipline if some form of government isn’t restored would be an interesting question...would soldiers desert to try to find their family, or would officers/NCOs be able to maintain some form of discipline to keep their unit together? And what happens if different units, desperate for food come across one another...?
Something like the Army unit in 28 Days Later: sort of sticking to their task but increasingly going off the rails
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It's a good start.
Can't wait to see which aircraft carrier you build. ;)
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Nice start on the BAOR.
Have you ordered the Traffic Warden from Crooked Dice?
(https://crooked-dice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Milita-1.jpg)
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Very cool. You can do some up in civilian, police, civil defense wardens or older style uniforms to represent militias, deserters, Raider/warlord troopers. Maybe a helmet or head change would help as well.
Head swops will very much be the order of the day :)
Nicely done!
Something like the Army unit in 28 Days Later: sort of sticking to their task but increasingly going off the rails
Exactly ... apart from the pet zombie ;)
It's a good start.
Can't wait to see which aircraft carrier you build. ;)
Must...resist... :D
Nice start on the BAOR.
Have you ordered the Traffic Warden from Crooked Dice?
(https://crooked-dice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Milita-1.jpg)
Thanks mate. I haven’t got the threads traffic warden yet, but he is on the shopping list. I’ve already got a couple of the other figures in that photo in the painting queue, and they certainly fit in with what I have in mind.
:)
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Bit more background...this time on possible remnants of the Government, and bunker locations.
Regional Government HQs
The UK civil defence plan relied upon regional HQs taking over government responsibilities during a nuclear attack, although the standard/state of readiness of these bunkers varied. The North East RGHQ was (by the 1980s) based in a bunker at an old RAF base (on my map this would be c7 miles north of Aldcastle), and although doubtless uncomfortable to remain in for a long period of time, was relatively large (over 4 floors).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_seat_of_government#Last_phase_of_Cold_War
While in my campaign, it would have survived the bomb that went off over Aldcastle, the ability of the RGHQ to exert control for a sustained period of time could be questionable - for example, how long would the Regional Police Headquarters near Northdale listen to instructions from someone in a bunker while the local situation deteriorated? Would there be the temptation to let the line go dead, and make your own decisions?
With the main Garrisons on the map having been hit, it’s likely that the lines of communication between the RGHQ bunker and the remaining military would be disjointed at best, or non-existent at worst.
UKWMO Bunkers
The UK Warning & Monitoring Organisation, was manned by members of the ROC Royal Observer Corps, and had a string of much smaller bunkers across the UK. These bunkers were much much smaller than the RGHQ...little more than a room in most cases. In the early 1980s it’s uncertain how many of these posts would have EMP protected communications, as they were in the process of being upgraded.
Once the nuclear exchange had petered out, ROC members would eventually need to venture out, but still have a potentially handy bolt hole.
The following is an excellent site, with loads of details on locations, and what the bunkers looked like.
http://www.ringbell.co.uk/ukwmo/Page221.htm
(https://i.imgur.com/QnIj3wj.jpg)
These posts were organised into smaller sectors, with a lead post (the red dots on the map below).
(https://i.imgur.com/vyK79Ad.jpg)
Plan of York ROC bunker (a Group Control Bunker)
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/siteassets/home/visit/places-to-visit/york-cold-war-bunker/york-roc-bunker-plan.pdf
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/york-cold-war-bunker/history/
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Great background information.
One of the ROC bunkers came on the market recently. I will see if I can find a reference.
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Loved the BAOR boys. I think you got the effect of DPM camo down pretty good!
And I'm looking forward to see how this whole thing plays out...... 8)
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This is truly brilliant.
Although its slightly scary having lived through the period. I was always happier not knowing lol
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Thanks everyone for the encouragement, I hope to make more progress once the “Build something” competition is finished.
Already have plenty more figures primed and vehicles on the way as well.
:)
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What a great project - for inspiration can I suggest the old BBC series called Survivors by Terry Nation
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What a great project - for inspiration can I suggest the old BBC series called Survivors by Terry Nation
Not the recent remake though :o lol lol lol
Glen
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What a great project - for inspiration can I suggest the old BBC series called Survivors by Terry Nation
That was very good as I remember.
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What a great project - for inspiration can I suggest the old BBC series called Survivors by Terry Nation
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GfY2bzs08QI/YL-wYzgpK0I/AAAAAAAAIA4/Np6BF2DbO741Tsc_9Es-okRAsb-KU0pOACLcBGAsYHQ/s500/survivorsdvds.png)
No idea if it is available on iPlayer.
Big Finish produced audio plays (many with members of the original cast).
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Some details but not currently available.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00q3gk5
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First season is good, second is ok the third one is terrible.
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Ok..ok..when my thread turns into a film review, it’s time to post more figures, I get it ;) lol
More toys this weekend, been sorting through previous projects for suitable figures to bulk out the civilian population, while I get a bunch of new figures primed....now that my BSC entry is finished I can make some more progress.
Also have some vehicles to sort out as well.
The major question I’ve been asking myself is whether to go with my existing snow table, or go for something greener...am now thinking I might go with the snow scenery...partly because it saves me a wad of cash on new terrain, and partly because I like the idea of colder weather as an extra challenge during individual games/campaign.
I’m working on some resource markers/objectives, and might include heat sources as one of the types.
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Ok..ok..when my thread turns into a film review, it’s time to post more figures, I get it ;) lol
Who says we cannot be subtle....
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A great project and something I have a soft spot for growing up in those interesting times.
If I had more time and shelf space this is a project I would indulge in, but for now I'll follow this one and see if it gets me motivated.
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Cheers all :)
Some vehicles....first up a MK Bedford
(https://i.imgur.com/Zs7hX7X.jpg)
This is the 1/50 corgi diecast with some modifications. The corgi is a long wheel base, but if you remove the screws underneath the vehicle, the rear of the vehicle slides into the cab to form the more familiar shorter version...all that’s needed then is to replace the rear bodywork with some plasticard. The extra storage underneath is an Old Crow ammo box. Empress BAOR for comparison purposes.
Comparison with the original model.
(https://i.imgur.com/13aoaku.jpg)
I also picked up a Bedford RL in RAF colours (ready painted from Promod) an older model but still in reserve, so entirely plausible that it could be used.
(https://i.imgur.com/pO6BGx8.jpg)
While I was playing about with the Bedford MK I also painted up a couple of Grubby Tank Saracen APCs. In real life the Army Driver Training Centre (just north of Hazelbrook on my fictionalised map) had some Saracens for training crews heading to N Ireland, so I figured these could make an appearance in my campaign.
(https://i.imgur.com/1aV3qlA.jpg)
Group shots so far
(https://i.imgur.com/dNMCwLf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cf86VDR.jpg)
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Well done! They sure look the business!
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Nice job.
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Great work mate!
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Looking good. The truck conversion looks better than the original ;)
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Beautiful! And yes, the sheds of our local TA unit still had sheds full of War Reserve Bedford RLs. Just one thing though - RAF Blue-Grey as a vehicle paint went out in the 1960s. RAF vehicles were then painted in the same OD & black scheme as the Army, or plain OD with a reflective yellow stripe stuck centrally along the sides and across the front and rear. This often had ROYAL AIR FORCE in dark blue. The RAF roundel was still applied front and rear though.
God knows what lived in War Reserve sheds though. Some RAF fire engines came out still painted blue-grey for firemen's strikes.
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Looking good. The truck conversion looks better than the original ;)
Agreed, I've got 2 of them. I'll shall have a play with a screwdriver tonight.
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Thanks everyone for your comments :)
Beautiful! And yes, the sheds of our local TA unit still had sheds full of War Reserve Bedford RLs. Just one thing though - RAF Blue-Grey as a vehicle paint went out in the 1960s. RAF vehicles were then painted in the same OD & black scheme as the Army, or plain OD with a reflective yellow stripe stuck centrally along the sides and across the front and rear. This often had ROYAL AIR FORCE in dark blue. The RAF roundel was still applied front and rear though.
God knows what lived in War Reserve sheds though. Some RAF fire engines came out still painted blue-grey for firemen's strikes.
V.interesting...thank you for sharing...I might repaint the RAF truck, although I like the idea you mention about War Reserves sheds with old paint schemes...particularly as I’ve got plenty else to paint in the meantime lol
Agreed, I've got 2 of them. I'll shall have a play with a screwdriver tonight.
It just amuses me that someone at Corgi went to all that effort, and there is no mention on the box...I wonder maybe they used the same model chassis for another purpose?
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Thanks everyone for your comments :)
V.interesting...thank you for sharing...I might repaint the RAF truck, although I like the idea you mention about War Reserves sheds with old paint schemes...particularly as I’ve got plenty else to paint in the meantime lol
It just amuses me that someone at Corgi went to all that effort, and there is no mention on the box...I wonder maybe they used the same model chassis for another purpose?
Sadly, I never saw any RAF War Reserve vehicles. I did go in the deep storage aircraft hangars in 1989 and saw everything from Meteors and Lightnings to Phantoms and Tornados, as well as probably 100 or more Scout helicopters stored on racks up one wall!
Apart from the aforementioned reserve fire engines, I never saw any RLs in RAF service during the 80s - all MKs and TKs, with some new types appearing around 1989, though I expect there were still some in reserve somewhere. All the RLs I saw in the 80s were TA, but they never seemed to come out of the sheds, as they were only for war mobilisation. I've got a feeling that they were still painted in 1960s-era gloss Deep Bronze Green.
If you're interested, the RAF's 'cars of choice' during the 1980s were the Mini and the Vauxhall Chevette (bloody awful things); all painted gloss black, with roundels front and rear. Right up until the 21st Century, whenever you walked into MT Control on any RAF Station, you'd see a road safety notice board that was invariably covered with horrific photos of mashed Minis and Chevettes from the 70s and 80s! :o
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All looking very good! Thanks for the tip on the Corgi MK. Saves me breaking out the hacksaw. Speaking of all things Bedford and RLish, what would really set the scene would be a Green Goddess fire engine. Nothing says Civil Defence or industrial unrest like a Green Goddess.
@ Jemima Fawr. Funny about the Minis and Chevettes. I think in the early 1960s Humber Hawks were high fashion as staff cars. How are the mighty fallen and all that.
They also were one of the preferred diplomatic vehicle for a time. Former colleague of mine picked one up that at one stage had done duty at the High Commission in Canberra. Of course poor old Rex Hunt was graced with an Austin Princess in 1982.
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Nice start on your new project mate! Modern What-Ifs are one of my favourite go-tos for Gaming :D
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Nice start on your new project mate! Modern What-Ifs are one of my favourite go-tos for Gaming :D
Thanks mate....if nothing else I’m learning new stuff about civil defence bunkers etc that I hadn’t covered before :D
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Nice work.
Good spot on the lorry. Still hoping for something from Empress.
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Thanks mate....if nothing else I’m learning new stuff about civil defence bunkers etc that I hadn’t covered before :D
If you haven't looked already can I suggest the SubBrit website. I was a member for a while, fascinating.
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If you haven't looked already can I suggest the SubBrit website. I was a member for a while, fascinating.
Thanks mate, I’ll check it out :)
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I found these two books pretty interesting when was doing this in 20mm.
(https://i.imgur.com/dmbiCo0.jpg)
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I found these two books pretty interesting when was doing this in 20mm.
Thanks, I’ll have a look for those :)
Quick update today:
Managed to get some police cars muddied up and based - 1/43 diecasts but I think they will serve well.
(https://i.imgur.com/hTW7cOI.jpg)
The detective is a Foundry Street Violence that Dags painted for my zombie game about ten years ago...now starting a new beat in the Post-Apocalyptic North.
(https://i.imgur.com/dcEyelQ.jpg?2)
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How did I miss this thread? Really cool stuff, Akula.
In Threads I think they had steam tractors, as fuel supplies had run out. Would be a cool addition.
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You need some armed coppers to keep order
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You need some armed coppers to keep order
Nice work. Are those the OOP Mike Bravo ones?
I’ve got a bunch of police in the queue, but sadly didn’t get any of those before they disappeared.
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Great project Matt. One of many :D
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Ha love the Bill, well armed too with that Bren Gun!
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Nice work. Are those the OOP Mike Bravo ones?
I’ve got a bunch of police in the queue, but sadly didn’t get any of those before they disappeared.
Yes they are and it’s sad that they went out of production so quickly as I wanted to get more of the British Army internal security figures.
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Thanks, I’ll have a look for those :)
Quick update today:
Managed to get some police cars muddied up and based - 1/43 diecasts but I think they will serve well.
(https://i.imgur.com/hTW7cOI.jpg)
The detective is a Foundry Street Violence that Dags painted for my zombie game about ten years ago...now starting a new beat in the Post-Apocalyptic North.
(https://i.imgur.com/dcEyelQ.jpg?2)
Totally brilliant lol
Obviously the frozen North. You got far to far into Game of Thrones :D
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Totally brilliant lol
Obviously the frozen North. You got far to far into Game of Thrones :D
lol you know me too well!
I did actually think long and hard about what season I’d like to set the game in though.
I opted for winter, partly because I’ve got a load of snow-covered terrain/trees/mats so it means I can get a game on quicker/cheaper than having to start from scratch, but also because I like the in-game options it gives me.
It appeals to my mean streak as a gaming umpire to have ice causing vehicles to skid as they slam on the brakes at a roadblock, or someone slipping just as they pull the pin out of a grenade. In campaign mode, it makes controlling roads (and bridges) more important
Also, as if the effects of a breakdown in society wouldn’t be bad enough due to bombs going off, a lack of shelter/fuel etc would just add to the motivation during games.....why sit shivering in a tent, when someone is occupying that nice warm village over there ;)
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I would be tempted to take the cars off their bases,
it would help reduce the 1/43 ish.
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I would be tempted to take the cars off their bases,
it would help reduce the 1/43 ish.
Nah...I like my vehicles on bases :)
The Street Violence Detective is a little on the short side compared to some of the more modern figures I’ve got (eg Crooked Dice/Empress etc) so perhaps not the best size comparison, but he was all I had to hand when I took the photo.
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Great looking project. A tad sinister to those of us who lived through the Cold War however. A couple of suggestions for you, if you want to give the Army a bit of armoured punch, the Corgi version of the Saladin armoured car fits in quite well with 28mm, unlike the Crescent and Matchbox versions, just needs a little bit of work on the gun and mantlet.
And as I did an awful lot of Home Defence training during my career in her Majesty's Constabulary, can I suggest that for the Police you have a look around for some coach and van type vehicles. The tactic we were taught was that Police would form Police Support Units (PSUs) usually made of up of three vehicles, 60 Officers under a Chief Inspector, to be deployed as flying columns, and sent to trouble areas. Some good period Police vehicles can be found in the Vanguard diecast range which frequently crop up on E Bay.
Hope that helps. I might even have a copy of one of the old Home Defence manuals somewhere. I'll have a dig around.
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Great looking project. A tad sinister to those of us who lived through the Cold War however.
Quite true, but at least then we knew then who the enemy was supposed to be. ;)
Not always so clear cut these days.
Nice work though
Glen
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Nah...I like my vehicles on bases
fair enough, your house, your rules. :)
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fair enough, your house, your rules. :)
I get your point, it’s just that my ocd kicks in when some of the vehicles are based, and others aren’t (and some need the base to protect them).
It’s an imperfect world ;) :D
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It’s an imperfect world ;) :D
Don't knock it, it is the best one we have :D
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Great project. I have a similar one, a small isolated place in the Soviet Union in the 1980s after a nuclear war. But I’m not as skilled as you are…. :)
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Great project. I have a similar one, a small isolated place in the Soviet Union in the 1980s after a nuclear war. But I’m not as skilled as you are…. :)
Thank you, and welcome to LAF :)
It would be great if you wanted to start your own thread and share some ideas from your project...that way we can motivate each other :D
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Nice cop cars there, AKULA. They sure look the part.
I use 1/43 vehicles with my 28mm figs, too. The look good enough for my games.
Again, well done!
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Great looking project. A tad sinister to those of us who lived through the Cold War however. A couple of suggestions for you, if you want to give the Army a bit of armoured punch, the Corgi version of the Saladin armoured car fits in quite well with 28mm, unlike the Crescent and Matchbox versions, just needs a little bit of work on the gun and mantlet.
And as I did an awful lot of Home Defence training during my career in her Majesty's Constabulary, can I suggest that for the Police you have a look around for some coach and van type vehicles. The tactic we were taught was that Police would form Police Support Units (PSUs) usually made of up of three vehicles, 60 Officers under a Chief Inspector, to be deployed as flying columns, and sent to trouble areas. Some good period Police vehicles can be found in the Vanguard diecast range which frequently crop up on E Bay.
Hope that helps. I might even have a copy of one of the old Home Defence manuals somewhere. I'll have a dig around.
Thanks for the suggestions, I’ve actually got my eye on the Saladin (amongst others) that’s just been released by Empress.
I like the idea of the Police Support Units - I’ve got a couple of bus models on the way that I was thinking could have been requisitioned, plus I’ve obviously got some vanguard police cars already.
Would be interested to see what the Home Defence manual looks like...the more ideas and fluff the better :)
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In our Doctor Who games we use my old Dinky Toy Saracen APCs, Humbers, Austin Champs, Leyland ACV, Bedford RL. All fit nicely for size. The Matchbox Daimler Dingo a nd Dinky Daimler Armoured Car are neat matches at very nearly 1/56 though a bit early. I was a Military Liaison officer to the then Regional Council for a few years back then and we had bunkers full of old Military vehicles kept in long preservation for use by civil defence and others.
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Great project. I have a similar one, a small isolated place in the Soviet Union in the 1980s after a nuclear war. But I’m not as skilled as you are…. :)
sounds interesting tell us more...
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Thanks for the suggestions, I’ve actually got my eye on the Saladin (amongst others) that’s just been released by Empress.
I like the idea of the Police Support Units - I’ve got a couple of bus models on the way that I was thinking could have been requisitioned, plus I’ve obviously got some vanguard police cars already.
Would be interested to see what the Home Defence manual looks like...the more ideas and fluff the better :)
I’ve just got the 1965 Police War Duties Manual on eBay for a tenner 😀
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I’ve just got the 1965 Police War Duties Manual on eBay for a tenner 😀
An excellent find :)
You might want to watch the following (no sound unfortunately) on mobile columns...a bit before the time my game is set in though.
https://youtu.be/J2m8ozxwHKs
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Some US vehicles for the game...at some point in my campaign they will enter from the southern end of the map, heading north away from the worst of the fallout.
I painted these originally c10 years ago for my zombie game, but with a minor repaint and rebase they are now ready for action.
(https://i.imgur.com/BHyDTrM.jpg)
The soft-top pickups are from Fenris Games, the turtlebacks & the ambulance are from TAG, and the tanker is a conversion based upon a FOA truck...all c1/55 or thereabouts.
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Great painting. Very inspirational thread.
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Thanks mate :)
Managed to get some police painted today - Riot police are from Offensive (I’ve replaced the large rectangular shields they come with smaller round ones from Gripping Beast). The regular bobbies are from Crooked Dice.
(https://i.imgur.com/WVzGHub.jpg)
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Another small update, just trying to keep some momentum going this week while I’ve got a couple of days off work.
A quick and simple camp - Renedra tents with some resin odds and sods.
(https://i.imgur.com/iBZGG8j.jpg)
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Looking good so far. Nice job on the coppers, by the way!
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nice additions, the tents look great!
cheers
Matt
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Another small update, just trying to keep some momentum going this week while I’ve got a couple of days off work.
A quick and simple camp - Renedra tents with some resin odds and sods.
(https://i.imgur.com/iBZGG8j.jpg)
Very nicely done!
Add a couple of signs, a peace symbol and one that reads “We told you so” and it could be the base camp for any survivors of Greenham Common. Any such survivors probably would have a rather sooty look. :)
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You might be interested in this Civil Defence manual https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/1842/5384/1/A12.CD.H7%20Civil%20Defence%20Handbook%20no%207%20Rescue.pdf (https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/1842/5384/1/A12.CD.H7%20Civil%20Defence%20Handbook%20no%207%20Rescue.pdf)
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You might be interested in this Civil Defence manual https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/1842/5384/1/A12.CD.H7%20Civil%20Defence%20Handbook%20no%207%20Rescue.pdf (https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/1842/5384/1/A12.CD.H7%20Civil%20Defence%20Handbook%20no%207%20Rescue.pdf)
A good find, thanks for sharing :)
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More police....painted another dozen or so...mainly more Offensive riot police (with the shields replaced), plus some more constables (couple from outpost, plus another Crooked Dice).
Some photos of the police so far....
(https://i.imgur.com/3KsYfMf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/369etmh.jpg)
I might add some police transfers to the shields later on
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Cheese it, the cops! :D
Seriously, well done, AKULA! They look the business...
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They do look rather excellent- liking the riot cops in particular! What shields did you use?
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Thanks both :)
They do look rather excellent- liking the riot cops in particular! What shields did you use?
Gripping Beast Successor Pikemen shields
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Excellent.
If you need more riot police heads, Empress Russian helmet heads with visors work nicely you file off the view slit.
https://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2021/01/law-enforcement-officers.html (https://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2021/01/law-enforcement-officers.html)
I have not tried them with Crooked Dice X-Commando figures, they should work.
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Excellent.
If you need more riot police heads, Empress Russian helmet heads with visors work nicely you file off the view slit.
https://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2021/01/law-enforcement-officers.html (https://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/2021/01/law-enforcement-officers.html)
I have not tried them with Crooked Dice X-Commando figures, they should work.
Thanks I’ve got some Anvil Industry ones spare, but I’ve seen the Russian helmets on your excellent thread, and expect I’ll add some to my next order from Paul :)
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A few more figures today....I fancied a change of pace, so messed about with some conversions.
The first figure is meant to be a senior RAF Officer ... I expect I’m breaking various uniform conventions with this figure, but I like the hat combo with the battle dress.
The figure is from TAG with a Crooked Dice headswop.
(https://i.imgur.com/gpfVpHn.jpg)
Next up, a test figure for the RAF Regiment - more straightforward...simply an Empress BAOR with a headswop
(https://i.imgur.com/CR89n76.jpg)
Finally, I wanted a couple of Royal Observer Corps figures, wearing the zip-fronted 1972 pattern No.2 RAF uniform...to my knowledge no one (understandably) makes one, so I converted some figures out of my lead pile...the left hand mini was originally from Crooked Dice, and the right was one of my Apocalypse Isle sculpts (now available from CD). Both have Empress head swops, and green stuffed jackets.
(https://i.imgur.com/mADKCAI.jpg)
Not perfect by any means....they look better from a distance...the further away the better in fact :D
At least it gives me an excuse to build a bunker for them at some point.
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Nicely done!
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Nicely done!
Thanks Karl.
Another (small) order in-bound this weekend...keep thinking of more conversion ideas :D
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I like that Senior crab. Which TAG model was used for the donor body? Looks like it might work for another BAOR exercise umpire.
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Nice to see some rarely done figures. That senior officer is typical of his type in the 80s, SD hats were common in DPM among those who didn't really have a clue lol
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Nice to see some rarely done figures. That senior officer is typical of his type in the 80s, SD hats were common in DPM among those who didn't really have a clue lol
That’s exactly the look I was going for lol
I like that Senior crab. Which TAG model was used for the donor body? Looks like it might work for another BAOR exercise umpire.
It’s in the Character section - Tim Collins
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Cheers!
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Yes, it's breaking dress regs, but such things were definitely seen... ::) lol
I do like the fellas in Thunderbird jackets. Got issued mine only then to chuck it in the bin, still in its packet and unworn, because it was (thankfully) made obsolete almost immediately.
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Yes, it's breaking dress regs, but such things were definitely seen... ::) lol
I do like the fellas in Thunderbird jackets. Got issued mine only then to chuck it in the bin, still in its packet and unworn, because it was (thankfully) made obsolete almost immediately.
No strings attached?
I bet you regret binning it now. probably the height of retro fashion.
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No strings attached?
I bet you regret binning it now. probably the height of retro fashion.
Indeed! I could have flogged it for a fortune on eBay as 'Genuine SAS and International Rescue Thunderbird Jacket (Mint)'! :D
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Part of the game/campaign I have in mind will involve players scavenging/fighting over dwindling resources, so I wanted to create some interesting counters.
After a rummage through my bits box I came up with the following:
From left to right: Clean Water - Food - Fuel - Tools
(https://i.imgur.com/m5FiP4Y.jpg)
From left to right: Heat - Firearm - Ammunition - Melee Weapon
(https://i.imgur.com/xAFNfTB.jpg)
I’m going to add some more counters to represent Medical Supplies, a Radio etc
As I had a couple of oil drums left over, I made a simple checkpoint, which I expect will get plenty of use.
(https://i.imgur.com/H5vJlpI.jpg)
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Really like those objective markers - you might find I loot some of those ideas :D
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I like them too. I gotta do up some markers like that....I'll add that to my long and winding painting queue....
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They are great. ‘Food’ looks like a liquid lunch!
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Very nicely done - I particularly like the rust on the oil drums.
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Thanks everyone, glad you like the test pieces...more on the todo list :)
Managed to grubby up and base a Police Forward Command Vehicle....sounds impressive, but think of it as somewhere to make a cuppa and keep out of the wind :D
(https://i.imgur.com/em7cvcD.jpg)
The model is a Corgi 1/50 scale, so perfect for my project.
A number of these vehicles were former “mobile column” trucks, and offered to Police forces during the 1970s...at least one was in service until 1988 so that’s good enough for me.
I love this quote from someone that drove one:
“it was quite a beast to drive, top speed of about 50 mph, down hill! Uphill you could walk quicker”. lol
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lol lol lol lol I had a car like that. It took you from A to B… eventually…… mostly. ;)
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lol lol lol lol I had a car like that. It took you from A to B… eventually…… mostly. ;)
Ah! The infamous Rolls Canardlie.
Rolls down hills and can 'ardly get up them.
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Excellent counters, where did you get those saws?
That command vehicle looks good.
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Excellent counters, where did you get those saws?
Black Cat Bases have loads of useful bits like these to represent supply counters etc
https://blackcatbases.com/?s=Tools&post_type=product&title=1&excerpt=1&content=1&categories=1&attributes=1&tags=1&sku=1&orderby=date-DESC&ixwps=1
The other components mainly come from Crooked Dice, TTCombat or Old Crow (the ammo boxes)
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Managed to get some RL Bedfords painted and based today - 1/50 Corgi diecasts.
I’ve replaced the rear of two of them, as I wanted a couple of flatbeds to carry supplies....I’ve got a scenario in mind for a “protect the convoy” game. Have left off the wing mirrors... didn’t have enough for all of them, and tbh, they were pretty flimsy.
(https://i.imgur.com/z7KzG7k.jpg)
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Brilliant work Matt! :o
The supplies are a nice touch too. Love this thread.
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Nice work.
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Cool thread :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Brilliant stuff :-*
I was/am keen to a similar thing,though set in Oz,mostly so I can field all sorts of wackyness :)
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Thanks everyone, glad you are enjoying the thread ... plenty more to add I hope :)
Today’s quick update is a couple of fire engines ...including a Green Goddess lookalike, especially for Carlos
what would really set the scene would be a Green Goddess fire engine. Nothing says Civil Defence or industrial unrest like a Green Goddess.
It’s not a 100% copy of the classic pump, but the available diecasts are too small, and the only kit currently around (from Fire Brigade Models) starts at £90. I found this one on fleabay, which someone had converted from a Dinky toy, and it’s a good enough representation for my purposes.
(https://i.imgur.com/oPzdmFs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1bLoDoc.jpg)
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A cracking project as always mate.
Any idea on who you'll use for armed civilians? I'm using some gripping beasts Argentina commandoes with a head swap for some armed Scottish nationalists for a W79 game.
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A cracking project as always mate.
Any idea on who you'll use for armed civilians? I'm using some gripping beasts Argentina commandoes with a head swap for some armed Scottish nationalists for a W79 game.
Cheers mate.
Re: armed civvies, I’m assuming that the events of my game are set before UK laws were tightened in the late 1980s, so there would be a reasonable number of weapons available...pistols, target rifles, the odd semi-automatic rifle, and plenty of shotguns. My old school in the mid-1980s could have equipped a platoon with Enfields, and Bren guns.
DC Andy Cartwright: Everybody and their mums is packin' round here.
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
DS Andy Wainwright: Farmers.
Nicholas Angel: Who else?
DC Andy Cartwright: Farmers' mums.
In terms of figures, I’ve got some from Gripping Beast, TAG, Hasslefree, Crooked Dice, Warlord, Artizan, Mike Bravo and my old Apoc Isle project (now available from Crooked Dice) in the painting queue, plus I’ve got my eye on the Apoc range from Crusader, so plenty to be getting on with.
:)
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I'm assuming all that included the morris dancers, Hicks' mutton chop line (wherever it ended up) had a couple of good armed civvies in it that I'd used for a similar project.
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Many Borstals had Army Cadet platoons:
Sir F. Maclean asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what arrangements are made for instruction in map reading and the use of firearms by inmates of Borstal institutions under his jurisdiction.
Mr. Ross: The army cadet force at Polmont Borstal institution, the membership of which is about 40, receives such instruction and training on the same basis as other army cadet forces. The cadet force was revived at Polmont Borstal Institution in 1959. This unit is run on the same lines as other units of the cadet forces, whose instruction includes map reading and the dismantling of automatic weapons. I regard the training and discipline of the cadet force as of value to selected boys in borstal institutions.
Hansard 13 December 1966 vol 738 c61W
The Army Cadet platoons were in existence well into the 1970s
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Yep, teach the little miscreants a trade. In this case armed robbery. :)
Love the Green Goddess. :-* Near enough is good enough in this case
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Really liking the fire-engine and the Green Goddess.
I’m feeling I missed out at school in the 80s, my schools didn’t have any firearms :(
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Nice.
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Really interesting project and lovely miniatures & vehicles!
Do you know these all female WWII military and civilian miniatures?
https://badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/British/c/36713219
Not sure if these will suit your needs but think some might be usable.
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Thanks everyone
I'm assuming all that included the morris dancers
No Morris dancers ... yet ;)
Really interesting project and lovely miniatures & vehicles!
Do you know these all female WWII military and civilian miniatures?
https://badsquiddogames.com/shop#!/British/c/36713219
Not sure if these will suit your needs but think some might be usable.
Thanks, I’ve been eyeing up the Bad Squiddo range...definitely a few there that might find their way into my game :)
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Love the Green Goddess :-*
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We hated them - during the firemen's strike. They were unstable and a nightmare cornering at any speed as the water tank did not have baffles so the water sloshed around. Several slid off the road.
Your model looks great and the base should keep it stable going around corners!
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Your model looks great and the base should keep it stable going around corners!
^__^
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We hated them - during the firemen's strike. They were unstable and a nightmare cornering at any speed as the water tank did not have baffles so the water sloshed around. Several slid off the road.
Your model looks great and the base should keep it stable going around corners!
I seem to remember they had 40mph speed limiters on them?
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I seem to remember they had 40mph speed limiters on them?
I don't remember ever getting up to 40mph! So maybe.
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I don't remember ever getting up to 40mph! So maybe.
lol
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A brief update while I wait for other stuff to dry...
I really liked the anecdote (below) that JF posted a while back on the thread, and it inspired me to add a Vauxhall Chevette to my project. Regrettably it’s not an estate version, but perhaps it’s the Base Commander’s runabout ;)
If you're interested, the RAF's 'cars of choice' during the 1980s were the Mini and the Vauxhall Chevette (bloody awful things); all painted gloss black, with roundels front and rear. Right up until the 21st Century, whenever you walked into MT Control on any RAF Station, you'd see a road safety notice board that was invariably covered with horrific photos of mashed Minis and Chevettes from the 70s and 80s!
(https://i.imgur.com/3s8tZM0.jpg)
The building is by Chris from TaskForce Terrain
(https://i.imgur.com/nmcMmGe.jpg)
I had time to add another RAF Officer...this one based upon a Crooked Dice figure...I didn’t want him holding the walkie talkie that he came with, so I bodged a sling for him...perhaps he was driving a Chevette when he broke his arm.
(https://i.imgur.com/Rp8EDY7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4sjNoZe.jpg)
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Nice conversion on the figure.
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Nice
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lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Fantastic!!! I'm so proud! :-*
I'm pretty confident that yours is quite possibly the only wargames Vauxhall Chevette in existence. 8)
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Oh and I don't remember the estate version. All the ones I saw (including the one I did my first MT check-ride in to get my military driving licence) were the two-door saloon version like yours. They were used as general station runabouts for whoever needed them. 'Harry Staish' (the Stn Cdr) would have something a bit better such as a Vauxhall Royale (same as the Opel Senator), with a pennant on the front.
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Okay. Now that's cool.
If I can only find a suitable Chrylser K-Car (the US military's equivalent in the 80s, painted an awful mintish/pea greenish green....It looked like they made the paint with a mixture of McDonald's Shamrock Shakes and canned peas)...ugh...
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I'm pretty confident that yours is quite possibly the only wargames Vauxhall Chevette in existence. 8)
Whilst not including a Chevette, my AK47 army transport does boast:-
Morris 1100, Vauxhall Victor 101, Austin A60,
Vauxhall Cresta Estate, Vauxhall Viva & an Austin 1800.
What can I say, the warm, inviting & peace loving people of Zumri
look after & love their cars. :D :D :D
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Are these HO model railway cars?
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Whilst not including a Chevette, my AK47 army transport does boast:-
Morris 1100, Vauxhall Victor 101, Austin A60,
Vauxhall Cresta Estate, Vauxhall Viva & an Austin 1800.
What can I say, the warm, inviting & peace loving people of Zumri
look after & love their cars. :D :D :D
Good grief... War is hell...
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Are these HO model railway cars?
Yup. Many many years ago my youngest brother used a lot
of his pocket money to buy me a birthday present.
He knew I liked model railways, so bought me a Tri-ang
car transporter wagon. I was only interested in pre-WW2
GWR. I therefore couldn't use it & I didn't feel like I could
get rid of it, then along came AK47 with its. 'A Tank is a
Tank is a Tank' mentality. Cue a lightbulb moment. That
means I can use the cars as trucks. Many fun games since.
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Nice job on those cars, perfect for gaming, and they certainly add a touch of colour to the battlefield
8)
Quick update: today I finished some flight stands
(https://i.imgur.com/a1kMKpW.jpg)
They are mdf ceiling roses...which conveniently have a 5mm hole drilled through the centre (perfect given I’m using 5mm acrylic rods).
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Flight stands... a good sign (if needed) that my project is spiralling out of control lol
One thing I don’t really enjoy is making plastic models...the following were not built/painted by myself, and they look all the better for it.
Almost by luck I ended up with the Royal Navy supplying the bulk of my lift capability...the rationale being that most of the British Army’s helos would be on the continent, and the RN helos could either be stationed in the UK, or possibly minus their parent ship by this point.
Purists might object to the range of colour schemes, but I can’t resist shiny toys.
(https://i.imgur.com/FAjdQxc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lPWPuzc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AjBUU5K.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZCVSEb7.jpg)
and the obligatory group shot
(https://i.imgur.com/eU3xVKR.jpg)
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Flight stands... a good sign (if needed) that my project is spiralling out of control lol
So you really are going to do another aircraft carrier? ;D
Are the copters all 1/48 kits?
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So you really are going to do another aircraft carrier? ;D
Nope lol
Are the copters all 1/48 kits?
Yup :)
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Yep, just say that they were stuck doing civil defense work when the balloons went up. And they look great by the way.
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A great set of helos
4 of them though is definitely a sign the project is spiralling - not that this is all bad, it means more great stuff for us to view!
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Purists might object to the range of colour schemes....
A pox on them! ;D
If they fit your narrative, then so be it... ;)
Like the flight stands, BTW...
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:-* I think the whole thing looks bloody magnificent.
Obviously the Sovs didn’t think Yeovilton or Cudrose were worth a nuke. Can’t fault their logic. :D
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outstanding
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Thanks everyone :)
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Oh and I don't remember the estate version.
The company my dad worked for had a Chevette Estate as a "company car" (for insurance purposes probably). Dad much preferred to use his own rather than the company rattletrap.
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Nice flight of helicopters.
Are you sure you are not going to have an aircraft carrier?
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Are these HO model railway cars?
Yup. Many many years ago my youngest brother used a lot
of his pocket money to buy me a birthday present.
He knew I liked model railways, so bought me a Tri-ang
car transporter wagon.
Probably OO Gauge (4mm rather than 3.5mm) then.
Great story, does he know they got drafted? ^__^
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Probably OO Gauge (4mm rather than 3.5mm) then.
Great story, does he know they got drafted? ^__^
Well spotted, you are correct.
He has been told, but he isn't interested in Wargames any more.
He started to go off them when, having watched Battle of the River
Plate (Black & White movie) he insisted on refighting it. He would
do so much better than the actual German commander. A friend,
John (ex Royal Navy) & I played the 'totally outclassed' (my brother's
words) British.
He was giving us a damn good thrashing, the only fun we were
having was sending each other quotes from the film (via Aldiss
lamp signals) till John got a VERY lucky plunging shot onto the
Graf Spee's thin deck armour. This was followed by throwing 100
on a pair of % dice = Magazine blows up!!!! :D :D :D
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Managed to build and paint the first of the Empress land rovers I ordered - a beautiful kit, went together very easily, and great fun to paint.
(https://i.imgur.com/drpWTn5.jpg)
Trouble is, I like to mess about with kits...gave the guy at the back a Crooked Dice head swop, and then decided to add some camo netting.
(https://i.imgur.com/GWvgJ2m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8qND3SO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LtSAn7M.jpg)
My inspiration was the following photo
(https://i.imgur.com/dGDDXUK.jpg)
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That camo works so well, I can't believe it's birch pods! :o
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Camo looks great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Camo looks great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Plus one!
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Nice work.
Thanks for the ammo location shot (saves me asking another question ^__^).
The cammo net looks good.
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Is there a landie under all that camo!
Looks great!
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Its looks great, with and with out the Camo. Good job.
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Excellent! I've heard those over-camo'd recce Landies referred to as 'Dougals', after the dog on The Magic Roundabout. :)
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:-*
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Thanks everyone ....must confess I was in two minds as to whether to use the camo or not, but it seems to have turned out ok.
Its looks great, with and with out the Camo. Good job.
Cheers - another one to do, but next one will be minus the camo
I've heard those over-camo'd recce Landies referred to as 'Dougals', after the dog on The Magic Roundabout. :)
Love it lol
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That camo works so well, I can't believe it's birch pods! :o
It’s really not what you would expect after handing over £100 quid to some stern looking, leather clad madame in exchange for a ‘damn good birching’ is it?
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Stunning work on those AKULA! :o :o
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the camo is really effective !
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Excellent! I've heard those over-camo'd recce Landies referred to as 'Dougals', after the dog on The Magic Roundabout. :)
The "Dougals" in our regiment were the members of the recce platoon who traditionally wore long(er) hair (well it started with the previous Recce Platoon Commander).
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The "Dougals" in our regiment were the members of the recce platoon who traditionally wore long(er) hair (well it started with the previous Recce Platoon Commander).
lol
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Which poses the obvious question.. who was Zebedee?
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Which poses the obvious question.. who was Zebedee?
Magic Roundabout - Battalion HQ
Zebedee - PTI (the bouncy bald one)
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Hmm.. I’ve noted tendency for PTIs to be prematurely balding. Do you think it was steroid abuse? We had a particularly stupid one who would preface every instruction or statement with ‘I will not repeat myself’ before doing exactly that and repeating himself.
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Hmm.. I’ve noted tendency for PTIs to be prematurely balding. Do you think it was steroid abuse? We had a particularly stupid one who would preface every instruction or statement with ‘I will not repeat myself’ before doing exactly that and repeating himself.
lol
"Twenty times round my beautiful body! Go!" ::)
We had one on Mountain Leader training who would always point at things through the medium of a bicep-curl.
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As my thread looks in danger of disappearing off in another direction entirely, I thought I’d better post another update quick ;) lol
I’ve converted some Perry Sudan figures by giving them a headswop with some Outpost police officers, to create what I hope looks like some ambulance/stretcher bearers.
(https://i.imgur.com/Oqrkv4H.jpg)
The ambulance is a diecast ...strictly speaking the ambulance in question would be out of date by that point, but again I’m working on the basis that most of the major hospitals will have been hit, so it’s a case of whatever can be brought back into service.
(https://i.imgur.com/6GjdeCc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FlTWaDn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B5LltDd.jpg)
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Great work again 8)
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The ambulance is a diecast ...strictly speaking the ambulance in question would be out of date by the point, but again I’m working on the basis that most of the major hospitals will have been hit, so it’s a case of whatever can be brought back into service.
It could have even been based out at a village station somewhere, as a vaguely related example there's a local-ish village fire station that has an old fire engine as it's the only one that'll fit in the building, even then they have to park it at a very specific angle to get the door shut.
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A out of date ambulance is better then no Ambulance. :D
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Nice!
St John's Ambulance are a private charity who do first aid for events and aren't affiliated to the NHS ambulance service. In fact each individual St John's unit is a charity in its own right, so they would have whatever they could afford and your ambulance is therefore perfect for the St John's Ambulance of the 1980s (and probably even the 90s)! :)
My local lot have only just retired a 1980s-vintage LDV Sherpa and 1970s-vintage Series 2 Land Rover, so your 1960s/70s ambulance is practically the white-heat of new technology by comparison.
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Nice!
St John's Ambulance are a private charity who do first aid for events and aren't affiliated to the NHS ambulance service. In fact each individual St John's unit is its a charity in its own right, so they would have whatever they could afford and your ambulance is therefore perfect for the St John's Ambulance of the 1980s (and probably even the 90s)! :)
My local lot have only just retired a 1980s-vintage LDV Sherpa and 1970s-vintage Series 2 Land Rover, so your 1960s/70s ambulance is practically the white-heat of new technology by comparison.
Problem solved, problem staying solved.
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Problem solved, problem staying solved.
Absolutely! :)
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Managed to finish a second Empress Land Rover today.
Rather than equipping it with another Wombat, I’ve used a couple of GPMGs left over from my Apocalypse Isle Project.
(https://i.imgur.com/wRYTO6w.jpg)
Groups shots with the first Landie
(https://i.imgur.com/5LZpio0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iWH7KJL.jpg)
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Nice additions!!!
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Those Landrovers do look pretty sweet!
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Nice recce team.
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Lovely job - nice backdrop too 8)
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The ambulance crew sure look the part, and the Land Rovers look good too. Nice progress on your project so far!
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Dunno whether you’ve seen these:
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=1158
Came as a revelation to me. I was poking around on their site looking for something completely different. There’s of useful figures in there with ‘80# era weapons like SLRs and what might be an FN FNC.
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Excellent. Love the building in the pictures.
More Landy's being released any time soon. :)
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Wow! Fantastic project mate! That all looks amazing!! :-*
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Thanks everyone for your comments, they help keep me motivated :)
Dunno whether you’ve seen these:
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=1158
I have seen them thanks - was surprised when they just popped up on the Crusader site one day without any fanfare. That pack with the SLR is probably my favourite but they are all on the todo list.
Excellent. Love the building in the pictures.
More Landy's being released any time soon. :)
Thanks Paul, the building is by Chris from TaskForce Terrain.
Looking forward to seeing the new landies :)
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Nice work on that second Land Rover.
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Nice work on that second Land Rover.
Thanks UVS, I thought it would be a shame to hide the second one under a camo net :D
The amount and variety of stowage also comes in handy for converting some of the other vehicles I have in mind.
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Just the one figure finished today....a conversion from one of the OOP Mike Bravo figures I picked up off of a fellow LAF’er, with an Anvil Industry riot head.
Given the mix of gear, think I’ll use him as a TA...possibly as Home Service Force.
(https://i.imgur.com/tVCaNRi.jpg)
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Very nice. Shame about the Mike Bravo going under. They had a few good mins gone.
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Nice work on that figure.
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Thanks guys
A few more photos - these were the other figures I was waiting upon yesterday to dry before basing.
First up, another conversion from a Mike Bravo figure (again with an Anvil Industry helmet head)
(https://i.imgur.com/RGhsKXm.jpg)
Second, I managed to finish another 10 Empress BAOR, so that gives me two complete squads for my Regular army (plus a couple of radio operators not shown in these photos).
(https://i.imgur.com/o2f40q6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qWKBjNm.jpg)
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Very nice.
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Cracking job mate, it's a pity the Mike Bravo figures are no longer available, does anyone know if the moulds were bought by a different firm?
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does anyone know if the moulds were bought by a different firm?
I don’t believe so mate. Generally you get to hear when moulds are up for sale, but nothing in this case, which is a real shame.
If anyone else knows more, I’d be grateful if they could start a separate thread, to avoid derailing this one ;)
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They look great 8)
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They are great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Lovely stuff!
I see you have modelled them as "Armour Threat" Sections (a "squad" in the British army has a different meaning).
In the 80s our Light Role Rifle Sections (No Armor Threat) were composed:
Rifle Group
1× Section Commander, Corporal, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle
4× Riflemen, Private, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle and 1 L1A1 Rocket (M72 LAW) each
Gun Group
1× Section Second-in-Command, a Lance Corporal, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle
1× GPMG No. 1, Private, armed with 1 L7A2 General-Purpose Machine Gun
1× GPMG No. 2, Private, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle
Various organisations were tried after the Falklands War including the addition of a L4A2 or L4A4 LMG in place of one SLR in Rifle sections.
Platoon Headquarters (1 Officer and 5 OR) (very rarely an additional private with SLR was added as a "Runner" or he was detached from a section)
1× Platoon Commander, Second Lieutenant to Lieutenant, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle or sometimes 1 L2A3 Submachine Gun
1× Platoon Sergeant, Sergeant, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle
1× Signaller, Private, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle or 1 L2A3 Submachine Gun (if he was lucky)
1× Light Mortar No. 1, Lance Corporal, armed with 1 2-inch mortar and 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle
1× Light Mortar No. 2, Private, armed with 1 L1A1 SLR Rifle
Each SLR had nominally 100 rounds in 5 magazines (1 on SLR & 4 in pouches) though 4 was more usual.
Additional ammunition was carried in cloth bandoliers of 50 rounds.
Each SMG had 96 rounds in 3 magazines.
2" mortar had 18 bombs distributed amongst the platoon.
Each GPMG gunner had 200 rounds as did his No2. Each rifleman also carried a 50 round bely for GPMG
Most carried 2 HE grenades unless carrying MAW, LAW, radio, 2" mortar then only 1 grenade. Smoke (WP & coloured) was issued as required by mission.
The MAW No1 had 3 rounds in a carrier and his No2 had 6 rounds. Depending on threat more could be distributed amongst the sections.
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Those sure look good. It'd be interesting to see all the figs you have done up so far in a group shot...
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Thanks everyone for your comments - I’ll see what I can do about a group shot.
Quick update today - a two-seater Chipmunk trainer.
The civil defence contingencies of the day talked about light aircraft being used for reconnaissance/communications in a post-attack environment, and the chipmunk fits the bill. Will also be useful for a Soviet “attack the airfield” type game.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zeihi8h.jpg)
Not painted by myself, rather a product of my excessive eBay habit.
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Excellent addition!
Now how about the Spitmunk? Or a Scottish Aviation Bulldog?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/DHC-1_Chipmunk_22_%E2%80%98WP964%E2%80%99_(G-HDAE)_(26645152224).jpg/800px-DHC-1_Chipmunk_22_%E2%80%98WP964%E2%80%99_(G-HDAE)_(26645152224).jpg)
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Aha! Now I see what you meant. Great minds think alike and all that. ;) Looking good!
Still waiting on mine to arrive. When it does it will be painted up as RAF Gatow station flight version, the ones that did the BRIXMIS ‘spy’ flights around Berlin. As my late grandfather taught a fair few people how to fly in Chippies at CFS, I will surely get a second to paint up in his honour. Just have to find the serials in his log book.
If you want a painless chopper to go with that, there’s a decent Solido Gazelle that scales out to about 1/50. Dunno if anyone makes a Bulldog in scale but there is at least one 1/48 DHC-2 Beaver out there and I think that the AAC still had them on their books into the early/ mid eighties.
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Getting a pretty extinsive air force going on. Next you need one of those Tamiya HAWKER SEA HARRIER kits. ;D
Will you be adding any late 80s kitted out troops as well? Such as armed with SA80 and Minimi in the future? Or keep it all SLR's.
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Thanks everyone - plenty of ideas for more aircraft, as my initial idea continues to spiral out of all control lol
Will you be adding any late 80s kitted out troops as well? Such as armed with SA80 and Minimi in the future? Or keep it all SLR's.
No plans for late 80’s...but then I didn’t plan on any of this lol
While I eagerly await the new Empress Soviet Airborne, I thought I’d have a play about with a few existing figures to come up with some troops in snow suits. The following are a combination of Artizan WW2 Soviet Scouts & Underfire Mini Cold War Soviets, in some cases with green stuff to create the 2-piece suit, and or with an Anvil Industry balaclava head added.
From Left to Right
RPK Gunner - Underfire Mini (Green stuffed suit)
Radio Operator - Artizan Designs with Anvil Industry head & WF weapon
Officer kneeling - Underfire with Anvil Industry head & trimmed down weapon
Officer standing with map - Artizan Designs (Green stuffed suit)
Sniper - Underfire with Anvil Industry head (Green stuffed suit)
(https://i.imgur.com/sQu1hwi.jpg)
Having reread the Team Yankee novel recently, I like the idea that the officer with the map could be a Zampolit Political Officer
(https://i.imgur.com/cdtzCsc.jpg)
Plenty more to add while I wait for Paul’s new figures ... the Underfire minis arrived only yesterday, so these are just the advance party.... ;)
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Lovely work. I remember seeing the videos of Soviet Army exercises making massive assaults in the NBC environment with the soldiers in their Shlem Maska Shm-41 and the officers in their, obviously gas, bug and nuke proof, ushanka.
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Another addition to the flying circus...an AN-2 Colt for the VDV
(https://i.imgur.com/kjOQUGl.jpg)
Only room for a dozen passengers ....
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Nice. :-* :-*
It’s as well you went with the Colt, I suspect a 1/48 Il-76 would take up a fair bit of shelf space. :)
Did you know that the Hawk trainers at RAF Brawdy and Chivenor were double roled as emergency air defence and of course were also used for air to ground weapons training?
Did you also know that the rather natty Airfix Quickbuild Hawk, the lego like construction one that comes with the Aden gun pod, actually scales out to 1/56? Just sayin…… ;)
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It’s as well you went with the Colt, I suspect a 1/48 Il-76 would take up a fair bit of shelf space. :)
Yeah...that would be crazy...out of interest, does anyone make one? ;D
Did you know that the Hawk trainers at RAF Brawdy and Chivenor were double roled as emergency air defence and of course were also used for air to ground weapons training?
Funnily enough the Tactical Weapons Unit is on my list :D
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They planes look good, and those Soviet winter boys look the business, as well!
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Yeah...that would be crazy...out of interest, does anyone make one? ;D
Funnily enough the Tactical Weapons Unit is on my list :D
Nearest I could find was a 1/72 Il-76 from A Model.
https://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby :(/kits/amo/kit_amodel_72012.shtml
It’s big enough that the manufacturer felt the need to make the fuselage from fibreglass. :o
By my calculations it would have a 2 foot wingspan, so yeah, that’s an industrial sized shelf. Of course that’s just a puppy compared to another of their Soviet transports.
https://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/amo/kit_amodel_72009.shtml
I have no real use for a Hawk but having discovered that I have spare, albeit oversized, Matra pods from a Hunter kit, I feel compelled. Looked for the one I made with my son a few years back but it seems to have been binned. :( Still, it’s cheap enough that new decals and a tin of spray paint will probably cost more than the toy itself.
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Love the snow suit figures. Check out our chechnyan range for some other usable figures. ;)
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No one point Akky in the direction of the Caspian Sea Monster ;)
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No one point Akky in the direction of the Caspian Sea Monster ;)
There is actually a nice Zvedza 1/144 kit that I keep steeling my self to resist. Might make an interesting corner of the table, ‘forced perspective’ bit of scenery.
Oops there we go, putting temptation in the poor lad’s way again. Soz!
lol
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Lovely Chippy! :-* I once had a dogfight with a P-51D in one just like that (we won, obviously ;) ).
Yes, it's true about Chippies being designated for 'light recce and liaison'. The same goes for UAS Bulldogs, ATC Venture motor-gliders and the single DHC Husky belonging to the AEF in Northern Ireland. However, it was more about listing under international 'Balance of Forces' treaties than actual role or capability. Even the ATC's winch-launched gliders were listed as 'light recce' (good luck with that, but at least they were invulnerable to IR-guided missiles... lol)!
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So has there been a soviet landing in this war?
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Thanks everyone....your support feeds my craziness :D
Love the snow suit figures. Check out our chechnyan range for some other usable figures. ;)
Cheers Paul...already eyeing up the Chechens :-*
No one point Akky in the direction of the Caspian Sea Monster ;)
{Google’s “Caspian Sea Monster”} :o :-* :-* :-*
Oops there we go, putting temptation in the poor lad’s way again. Soz!
lol
You are a bad man lol
So has there been a soviet landing in this war?
It’s beginning to look that way ... maybe a small scale landing to hit airfields/radar sites & tie down the flow of reservists to the continent :D
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More Soviets painted - managed another 9 today
All of the new ones are from Underfire miniatures, mostly with Anvil Industry balaclavas, and some green stuff for the two piece snow suit.
(https://i.imgur.com/wMnRxbI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/voLXPq7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SRPElGo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zeKNQQR.jpg)
Group shot so far (includes a couple of converted Artizan minis)
(https://i.imgur.com/NfVyB95.jpg)
I also put together a supply drop
The chute is from 1st Corps, and the pallet is from anyscalemodels.com
(https://i.imgur.com/sDpUXuX.jpg)
Think I’m going to need a bigger plane ;D
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Anybody make an An26 or something similar in a "close enough" scale?
Edit: More nice figs, by the bye...
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Couple of kits out there in 1/72. Amodel do a couple of versions and a company called Russian project do another. Both companies make kits of the An-24 which the 26 was based on.
Roden do a number of An-12 variants and that was probably the most widespread VVS transport.
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love those Soviets
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Nice conversions with those balaclava. I have always shied away from using Anvil heads with Empress/Underfire figures, but they look spot on.
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Thanks everyone.
Today’s update is some vehicles for the Soviets - all of which are airportable.
BTR-D
From Empress Miniatures - a beautiful casting, easy to build. Mini for scale purposes is from Underfire
(https://i.imgur.com/dNj3Uef.jpg)
ASU-85
From Butlers Printed Models. I’ll be honest... the model has loads of striation lines, I only bought this model because no one else makes one. I decided to cover it with extra stowage and snow ... if I buy another one, I’ll use more snow.
(https://i.imgur.com/4R7x7s0.jpg)
LuAZ 967
1/43 diecast model, comes with a canvas roof, but I like it better without.
(https://i.imgur.com/cakDiaC.jpg)
UAZ 469
Another 1/43 model, from DeAgostini
(https://i.imgur.com/a9EsGmd.jpg)
Scale Comparison of Empress vs BPM*
* They size up well, but there is no comparison in terms of quality.
(https://i.imgur.com/TmAjhkO.jpg)
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Nice
Just FYI if you know someone local with a resin printer there is a nice looking ASU-85 on thingiverse though it will need a bit of work as some bits (Like the gun) are low poly for some reason ad those tow ropes are unlikely to print! https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3269188
A resin print shouldn't have any significant lines if done right but its hard with so many flat angled plates!
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Nice little Soviet motorpool you got there.
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Nice work on both kits. You could always say the ASU-85 was given a zimmerit style coating of concrete. That said, you’ve definitely made a purse from a sow’s ear. Looks the part and all.
My guilty secret is occasionally stealing glances at their PSZH IV. They are the only people to make one and my East German Grenztruppen demand a ride. I keep wondering just how bad it could be.
I suspect but don’t know that someone producing an upcoming range of Soviet paratroopers will eventually get round to making an ASU-85. Of course I fully understand the project imperative of ‘I want it now’. :)
By the by, if you are looking at 1/43 soft-skins, you should check out the range from AVD. They are a Russian/ Ukrainian (?) company that makes white metal kits of lots of Soviet kit, including some over snow gun tractors/ personnel carriers and useful bits of impedimenta like field bakeries and command post like vehicles. Many of their kits are very cheap when compared with resin kits or pre-made die casts, at least if bought direct from their Russian distributor. They appear to be very well detailed yet simple to build and come with actual instructions.
https://www.ritmonexx.ru/avd-models-m-230.html
Website is bit clunky but a GT-S over snow transporter for £13 is a bargain by anyone’s standards.
https://www.ritmonexx.ru/Sbornaja-model-GTSM-gusenichnyj-transportjor-kit-p-15441.html
Enjoy.
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Nice work on those vehicles. You especially did a great job on that ASU-85. Great work all around.
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Those are some really nice soldiers and vehicles. I especially like the really nice fitting head swaps!
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Thanks everyone
I suspect but don’t know that someone producing an upcoming range of Soviet paratroopers will eventually get round to making an ASU-85. Of course I fully understand the project imperative of ‘I want it now’. :)
If he does, then the current one may well end up as a wreck :D
By the by, if you are looking at 1/43 soft-skins, you should check out the range from AVD.
Will do, thanks again :)
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Just a handful more today
The AA HMG and crews are from the new Black Tree Design WW2 Russians, with an Anvil Industry headswop, with a couple more LuAZ to ferry them around
(https://i.imgur.com/SBAaFpo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gb0W7FH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PX9RKf8.jpg)
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Ooh - Dishkas! Way cool!
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That will help clear the skies.
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Very nicely done.
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Indeed, very nicely done!
Having received an order from BTD you now owe it to yourself to buy a lottery ticket. :)
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Who makes the LuAZ? And what scale please ;D
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Having received an order from BTD you now owe it to yourself to buy a lottery ticket. :)
Funnily enough I’ve never had the issues that some have experienced from BTD, have regularly used them for my Game of Thrones project without any delays, and when I dropped John an email with a quick question about the new range I had a reply within 24 hours, but I guess YMMV.
Who makes the LuAZ? And what scale please ;D
It’s 1/43 scale, I think it is a DeAgostini, but it’s easily found on eBay, just search LuAZ 967, should be able to get for as little as £7 plus postage (typically from Ukraine/Baltic states)
;)
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Cheers. I was thinking of adding one to the range but won't bother now ;)
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Cheers. I was thinking of adding one to the range but won't bother now ;)
More money to plough into greens....or a decent ASU-85 ;)
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A couple more figures finished this lunchtime - British snipers (Warlord Games)
(https://i.imgur.com/EL9GJ5T.jpg)
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Nice work but I would have thought they would be wearing gloves?
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Nice work but I would have thought they would be wearing gloves?
Yeah good point....they don’t look like they are sculpted with gloves, and tbh I was getting a bit bored of white at that point, but I could always paint them as gloves in a different colour maybe.
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Well, it is easier to manipulate the controls on a firearm without gloves. Perhaps it ain't really all that cold?
They do look nice, though!
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We wore the NI pattern gloves almost everywhere so black would be fine.
(https://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/_/n.i._black_leather_patrol_glove_110520_1.jpg)
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We used to swop those gloves with drunken Yanks. We told them that the knuckle padding contained a map of Europe, a compass and a forty foot fishing line complete with hook...
very gullible them Yanks!
lol
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Nice snipers.
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We used to swop those gloves with drunken Yanks. We told them that the knuckle padding contained a map of Europe, a compass and a forty foot fishing line complete with hook...
very gullible them Yanks!
lol
We are not all that gullible. I only traded for two pair myself. ;)
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Ok, so I didn’t “need” a honking great transport plane, but when the opportunity presented itself to acquire an Antonov AN-12 “Cub”, I definitely WANTED one ;D
The following model isn’t commercially available - it was handmade about 25 years ago and made its way to the UK in circumstances I won’t go into, but are unlikely to be repeated.
It is closer to 1/43 than 1/48 but given the nearest commercially available model is 1/72 I can live with that ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/3EDLaIE.jpg)
On the plus side it looks like a plane that could airlift a company of paratroopers, or a couple of BMDs/BTR-Ds
(https://i.imgur.com/ddm61lQ.jpg)
The flying stand still needs some work, but I thought I’d try and get an “inflight” shot...not easy given it’s size.
(https://i.imgur.com/WciTOZO.jpg)
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What kind of crazy drug deal did you do to aquire that beast? lol
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Dear lord that's impressive, and now I want one too!
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That is huge :o
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Wow :o… just wow!
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Wonderful! Are you going to do a Hercules in opposition?
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This is an interesting project. Great work. I watched Threads when it was shown on TV and haven't dared since. A very scary vision. I expect it's a bit dated now.
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Wow, quality thread. i will have a good read of this over the weekend.
I have also been thinking about playing some AK47 Republic set in a post-bomb Europe a la Twilight 2000.
Cheers
Julian
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That is a big bird. lol
I have an un built 1/48 C-130.
It would look small next to it.
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Glad you liked the Antonov :)
Had a hour or so spare today ...not enough time to make any real difference to my BSC entry, so instead I repainted/rebased some Corgi 1/50 Abrams...I’d previously used these in my zombie game, but I’m slowly adding a US force to my 1980s project...as it spirals into a wider TW2K game.
(https://i.imgur.com/AKfbPky.jpg)
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Damn those look nice.
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Great work as usual mate! You continuously deliver!
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As a former M1 tanker, I approve of those tanks! :D
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Thanks - glad you like them :D
Finished off a pair of Empress AFVs for the Soviet Paratroops - a BMD-1 & another BTR-D
(https://i.imgur.com/Jkj04La.jpg)
Lovely crisp castings, simple to put together
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Nice!
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Nice work.
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Cheers. Managed to get a couple of civilian vehicles based up.
A Crooked Dice transit...heavily converted
(https://i.imgur.com/Dj4jIRl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xXFhYvs.jpg)
And a diecast bus (both 1/50)
(https://i.imgur.com/UINXV5L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zk2A3ht.jpg)
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The bus if still operational would make for some great convoy missions in-between controlled settlements.
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Those photos look ace mate! Great work!
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Very nice again.
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Very nice models indeed!
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The civilian vehicles look good. That bus in particular has several possible uses...
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Loving all of this and the bus looks great.
Might I ask where the building with the columns comes from? Scratch built or is it a kit of some description?
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Cheers all :)
Might I ask where the building with the columns comes from? Scratch built or is it a kit of some description?
The building is another gem from Chris at Taskforce Terrain
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Cheers. Managed to get a couple of civilian vehicles based up.
A Crooked Dice transit...heavily converted
(https://i.imgur.com/Dj4jIRl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xXFhYvs.jpg)
And a diecast bus (both 1/50)
(https://i.imgur.com/UINXV5L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zk2A3ht.jpg)
Great pictures :)
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Superb Matt :-*
(I hope that’s not sugar though ;))
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I thought it was something else, quite a bit finer in consistency and I felt a little involuntary tingle in my nose for a second there. ;)
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Just scenic snow lol
Managed to finish off some more vehicles (all 1/43 diecasts - repainted)
(https://i.imgur.com/xW0dgrq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wPhJyMX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iPEZVsz.jpg)
and rebased some figures (Underfire Miniatures) that I acquired from Lord Raglan (ie not painted by myself)
(https://i.imgur.com/wC21ijr.jpg)
...and a couple of scenic shots
(https://i.imgur.com/8wGXMRV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8CITPou.jpg)
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Lovin’em mate!
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Looks like the hoard is assembling. :D
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They always said the Russians would have snow on their boots when they came.
Lovely work.
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Nice.
Is that the skateboard that was teased on the Empress thread?
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Never ventured into this subforum before. No surprise it's one of your logs that dragged me in... Absolutely incredible stuff as ever, mate. I could almost feel the biting cold in those earlier pictures of the ruined buildings, super thematic and atmospheric.
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Love your stuff, great work. Will you bring more air support?
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Thanks everyone for your comments :)
Is that the skateboard that was teased on the Empress thread?
It’s a OOP 1/43 diecast of the vehicle that Empress are making :)
Never ventured into this subforum before. No surprise it's one of your logs that dragged me in... Absolutely incredible stuff as ever, mate. I could almost feel the biting cold in those earlier pictures of the ruined buildings, super thematic and atmospheric.
Thanks mate - the buildings aren’t made by myself, but the winter theme obviously means I can use a lot of my Game of Thrones gaming mats, trees etc :D
Love your stuff, great work. Will you bring more air support?
More air support on the way ;)
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Especially for Dirk...an antiquated but deadly SU-7 Fitter fighter-bomber.
Would have been a reserve aircraft by this point but pressed back into service as losses mounted.
The original model wasn’t built by me, but I rescued it from the scrapyard with a repair job :)
(https://i.imgur.com/fY5kCjH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1vhP2Zs.jpg)
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More great photos 8)
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Just lovely. I am thinking of picking up a SU22 for my East Germans as well.
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Your model crafting is excellent and accentuated by your brilliant photography mate!
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More great photos 8)
Thanks Steve :)
Just lovely. I am thinking of picking up a SU22 for my East Germans as well.
DO IT!!!! and post up some photos 8)
Your model crafting is excellent and accentuated by your brilliant photography mate!
I can’t really take much credit for that last update....the buildings are professionally made, and the aircraft was originally built/painted by someone else...I just fixed it up and touched up a few dinks...
And the photos were taken with my battered old iPhone :D
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Ooh, I like that! Of course it would be Radiohead’s choice of Soviet air support. ‘Fitter, happier, more productive…..’
I think you have almost convinced me to buy the updated, swing version of that beast.
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Thank you for the air support, makes it easier. lol
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Nice Fitter. Looks very good!
I apologize in advance for the following question though: How long will it fly before it breaks down? :o
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Don’t worry about it breaking down, the Fitter had such a limited fuel capacity it will be lucky to make it to the end of the table. :)
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Well, there is that. But mechanical reliability and fuel capacity issues of the actual plane aside, the model still looks great! ;)
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Glad you all liked the Fitter, and apologies for the lack of updates lately…real life has been getting in the way recently.
Jealous of the arms race on Paul’s thread, I managed to spend a bit of time today working on some more air support for the VDV…. a 1/48th scale Mi-8 Hip
(https://i.imgur.com/fVzO7PP.jpg)
To my knowledge there isn’t a kit available for the Hip in 1/48 if you exclude the BPM printed model, so this is probably going to be my only Mi-8 unless I win the lottery…as it’s a rather expensive diecast that I’ve repainted.
(https://i.imgur.com/a7Qmu88.jpg)
That said, it’s worth every penny, as it’s a beast of a helicopter
(https://i.imgur.com/77jx2Ow.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wIsy5Qz.jpg)
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Great looking Mi-8.
I was looking at past posts.
May I ask where did you pick up the Corgi 1/50 M-1s?
Thanks.
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Great looking Mi-8.
I was looking at past posts.
May I ask where did you pick up the Corgi 1/50 M-1s?
Thanks.
Thanks :)
I picked up the Corgi M-1s more than 10 years ago…I’m afraid they are long since OOP but still crop up now and again on fleabay.
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Wow!! :-* :-*
There's a diecast Hip in 1/48? Only ever seen the 1/72 Hobby Boss version. Been patiently waiting for the long promised Annetra kit(s) but I see no real hope of them being released any time soon. Pity, one of the proposed kits was marketed as an 'easy build'. There is a resin Hip in 1/48 out there but far, far, more work than I am prepared to do.
What make is the Hip? I have three Mi-2s and a couple of Hinds but I would love to add a Hip to the collection.
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Looking good mate!
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WOW! :o
Super jealous over here. This is a great find, and I hope you didn't pay too much for it. :D
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What make is the Hip? I have three Mi-2s and a couple of Hinds but I would love to add a Hip to the collection.
IIRC the brand is FloZ … it’s marketed as a Chinese Mi-171 so you might need to beat Paul to one for his PLA collection ;)
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That is a splendid beast. Looks good with the figures.
You just reminded me that I have a MIL9 sitting in a pile in the loft. Just need some spare hours (weeks) to get the glue out lol
Diecast is far better. Although you will need a reinforced flight stand for that one. :o
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That is a splendid beast. Looks good with the figures.
You just reminded me that I have a MIL9 sitting in a pile in the loft. Just need some spare hours (weeks) to get the glue out lol
Diecast is far better. Although you will need a reinforced flight stand for that one. :o
Cheers Paul - it comes with a metal flight stand and base…will do some in-flight photos at some point, but my table is a bit of a mess right now ;)
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Dang, those things do cost a pretty penny.
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The helicopter is a stunning addition - what a beauty...
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That helicopter is a beauty
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Well shit. Now I may have to see if I can find one.... 8)
Nice job on that one, though!
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Cheers all, glad you like the Hip :)
A few more figures painted for the VDV, including the first of the Empress sculpts (the one crouching is from Underfire)…just realised looking at the photo that I need to tidy up the weapons.
(https://i.imgur.com/8xpbw01.jpg)
Also added another pair of AA HMGs …the base figures are from BlackTree, the berets are headswop from Empress, and the Helmeted head is a headswop from an Underfire
(https://i.imgur.com/fYemp12.jpg)
Group shot of my AA Platoon
(https://i.imgur.com/lKWT0BU.jpg)
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Nice!
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Blimey this project has gone far :D
So how long before you have every NATO/Warpac force on the table?
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They look really cool. Love the beret with the white winter uniforms.
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Looking good. That's an awful lot of AA. Expecting trouble?
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More great work! Well done!
Looking good. That's an awful lot of AA. Expecting trouble?
Mind you, those DShK's can be used against ground targets as well...
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Blimey this project has gone far :D
So how long before you have every NATO/Warpac force on the table?
It’s just possible that I might be getting carried away again ;)
That's an awful lot of AA. Expecting trouble?
I expect the VDV have seen what else is on the todo list :)
Another quick update today, painting time has been limited lately (not least by the crazy weather) but I’ve managed to finish a second Hip helicopter, because one was never going to be enough.
Removed the weapon hardpoints from this one for a bit of variety.
(https://i.imgur.com/UYJcGOq.jpg)
They take up quite a bit of tabletop (although nowhere near as much as the Antonov) so I doubt I’ll get another one….but have got a Hind on the way.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ijz2snX.jpg)
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OK, now you’re just rubbing it in….. lol lol
Impressive. If you are looking for a ride for your commander or maybe just another target at his HQ then I would recommend the Smer Mi-2. Cheap as chips and literally clicks together.
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Another Hip, eh? And a Hind on the way? Yer gonna need a bigger table... :D
The Hip looks good, BTW.
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I am definitely suffering from hip envy at the moment. I got some Mi-2s, a transport, medevac and attack versions and a hind. But not hips. ;D
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You can never have enough helicopters ;)
Carlos's suggestion for the Smer Mi-2 is a good one. I have one sitting in a box ready to do. Cheap and easy.
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Excellent! :-*
So an additional Hip then... Not a Hip replacement...?
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Excellent! :-*
So an additional Hip then... Not a Hip replacement...?
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I understand that lawn bowls is not a game favoured by our Russian friends.
Then again, if you scroll back a few pages Akky has modelled what must be a Soviet equivalent of a mobility scooter. ;)
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More progress
First up a Rapier Missile System - a very OOP 1/48th resin/metal kit
(https://i.imgur.com/cXue4C0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JN46gCI.jpg)
Also finished another Empress Landrover - gave the crew some Crooked Dice beret heads for variety (and the Sterling-armed passenger is a conversion).
(https://i.imgur.com/AcUViBv.jpg)
…and another couple of minis for the RAF Regiment contingent - the spotter is from Empress, the officer waging his finger is from TAG with a CD head swop.
(https://i.imgur.com/NC20AzX.jpg)
Group shot of the RAF so far
(https://i.imgur.com/vijfJKL.jpg)
…and a Hind (not painted by me)
(https://i.imgur.com/4ADPqLl.jpg)
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Especially liking the RAF types.
Have you considered a green Ford Granada for the Station Commander?
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Great work as always mate!
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Luverly! :-* That’s a good dollop of inspiration for me but very jealous of the Rapier. Is it the Hart Smith/ ASAM version?
Now I’ll have to whip put my RAF Station commander for a happy snap or two.
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Luverly! :-* That’s a good dollop of inspiration for me but very jealous of the Rapier. Is it the Hart Smith/ ASAM version?
Now I’ll have to whip put my RAF Station commander for a happy snap or two.
I’m not sure that it was either Hart/ASAM to be honest - it came in a box with “Collectors Model” printed on the outside, but the website/email etc are all defunct.
Look forward to seeing more of your own project as it motivates me with mine :D
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Excellent. Especially like the Rapier. ;)
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Really good stuff. Hope you're doing a Light Armour Flight as well as those Rapier wan£@rs lol
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Fantastic - more helicopters - love all the new additions - but especially did I mention the helicopters. lol
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nice additions
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Great stuff! Your project is coming along nicely!
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Thanks everyone :)
Especially liking the RAF types.
Have you considered a green Ford Granada for the Station Commander?
A Mk2…presumably repainted in some lovely army issue green paint?
Had considered an Opel Senator for a BRIXMIS but a Granada sounds fun :)
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You know I don’t remember for sure as it was a long time ago, but I believe it was a mk2 and it was what I would call an RAF green colour (similar to the trucks etc). No idea if it was matt or gloss. I only seeing it only the once, when we were rehearsing for a Whitehall parade and a few guys fainted smashing their faces into the ground. The base commander was watching the rehearsal and called his car round to ferry the casualties off to the medics. This was UK.
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Oi! Cheeky beggar! A BRIXMIS Senator is on my patch! lol I’m sure there would no shortage of airmen with hotted up Capris and Escorts in the station car park anyway if you want a get away vehicle.
Probably been asked and answered before but what are you using for snow? I’ve got some of the MiG snow but I’m not sure I am any happier with it than baking soda. Might just be a poor tradesman blaming his tools in my case.
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You know I don’t remember for sure as it was a long time ago, but I believe it was a mk2 and it was what I would call an RAF green colour (similar to the trucks etc). No idea if it was matt or gloss. I only seeing it only the once, when we were rehearsing for a Whitehall parade and a few guys fainted smashing their faces into the ground. The base commander was watching the rehearsal and called his car round to ferry the casualties off to the medics. This was UK.
Thanks Steve, useful to know, especially that it was UK based :)
Oi! Cheeky beggar! A BRIXMIS Senator is on my patch! lol I’m sure there would no shortage of airmen with hotted up Capris and Escorts in the station car park anyway if you want a get away vehicle.
Probably been asked and answered before but what are you using for snow? I’ve got some of the MiG snow but I’m not sure I am any happier with it than baking soda. Might just be a poor tradesman blaming his tools in my case.
It’s ok, I’ll steer clear of the BRIXMIS senator, as my project is still UK based, although I have been listening to 99 Luftballons recently :D
Re:snow …I dry brush the base first, then mix a paste of woodland scenic snow with resin water and then sprinkle some dry snow on top so it’s partially melted.
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Oh missed the notification, great looking set of RAF ground forces.
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Cheers! Might try that. I’m looking for slushy Canadian snow for another project.
Hast du etwas zeit für mich
Dann singe ich ein lied für dich……
I must say she has aged remarkably well but probably best not to dwell on teen heart throbs.
Now I need to find an Opel Senator. Have an Ascona already as part of the great German car park.
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Now I need to find an Opel Senator. Have an Ascona already as part of the great German car park.
In 1/43 they start at a tenner on fleabay…unlike Mk2 Granadas which seem to have suddenly jumped in price
>:(
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All the Staishmobiles I saw in the late 80s were gloss black, same as the Chevettes and Minis. Don't remember any roundels, though. On station they'd have a removable chrome 'pennant-stick', like a G-clamp-thing attached centrally to the grille or bonnet-edge, with a rectangular Ensign Blue pennant with red-white-blue roundel.
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I know the RAF police had the old electric jam sandwich stripes on some of their Landies and I’ve seen photos of an Astra wagon in the same livery? Were they tricked out like that in the 1980s? Inquiring minds must know.
Now Akky what you really want is a RE bomb disposal vehicle with the bright red fenders for shits and giggles.
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I know the RAF police had the old electric jam sandwich stripes on some of their Landies and I’ve seen photos of an Astra wagon in the same livery? Were they tricked out like that in the 1980s? Inquiring minds must know.
Now Akky what you really want is a RE bomb disposal vehicle with the bright red fenders for shits and giggles.
I can't remember, sorry. The vast majority of Landies and 4-tonners were plain green with the yellow airfield stripes - usually with 'ROYAL AIR FORCE' in blue overprint along the sides. However, you did see the odd 'civvy green' Landy with silver trim and there were always a few green & black camo ones knocking around (tactical units usually had the majority in camo).
The most distinctive 'vehicle' I ever saw was Harry Staish's personal transport at RAF Brueggen; he had the Stn Cdr's pennant fixed to his bike. lol To top it off he would invariably ride around station wearing his favourite IX (Bomber) Sqn baseball cap, which was bright yellow with a large green stuffed-toy bat stuck to the top. Epic. 8)
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Oh no, I tell a lie! The Snowdrops definitely had black Chevettes and Minis with orange stripes and blue light on the top. They featured rather heavily in the old TACEVAL film 'Watchdogs'.
They seem to have got white 'jam sandwich' Astra estates sometime during the late 80s.
Yeah, I remember the EOD 'orange corner' wagons. A mate of mine was EOD, so I'll ask if he's got any pics. They also had CVR(T) Spartan and Scimitar at some locations (Spartan for moving around under air attack and Scimitar for 'deflagrating' UXO with 30mm Rarden), but that was probably after the RAF Regt lost the light armour role during the 90s, so probably too late for this period, though I don't know for sure.
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From a quick Google, here's a nice example of an RAF Police Ford Escort Estate: http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/00-af-48-this-is-a-black-raf-police-ford-escort/
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Cheers. Now I’m wondering what they had in Berlin. Forces there had a habit of buying German vehicles, which was only fair as it was mostly spent on the German taxpayers mark.
Anthony Andrews would have been green with envy having a 30mm gun to blow UXOs up with. :)
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Too many ideas…not enough time lol
A bit of support for the VDV - an air droppable RPU-14 multiple rocket launcher
I don’t think that anyone makes one right now, so I took an Eureka Type 63 Chinese MRL and added another 4 barrels to it.
(https://i.imgur.com/X9s1w3d.jpg)
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Clever! Nice conversion.
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Very well done! +1!
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nice indeed
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Cheers all!
A slight change of pace… I need to start adding some more civilian/refugee types, plus some more vehicles for checkpoints.
Came across this (1/43) diecast, and had to add it to my 1980s British collection…although I’m not sure that they will be selling many ice creams given the weather.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ffJx4X.jpg)
Still has its own music system, plus good all round visibility…well it would if the owner cleaned the windows.
(https://i.imgur.com/ebUhDQd.jpg)
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Loving it mate! 👍
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Brilliant! I can almost hear ‘Greensleeves’ playing.
Weird, it took me some time to acquaint my children with the concept of the ice cream van and the need to grab cash and bolt when you heard the bells.
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Brilliant! I can almost hear ‘Greensleeves’ playing.
Weird, it took me some time to acquaint my children with the concept of the ice cream van and the need to grab cash and bolt when you heard the bells.
But 'Greensleeves' means they've run out! :'(
Doesn't it....? :o
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Brilliant model, by the way! :D
Our local ice cream sellers had 6x6 Land Rover vans (two rear axles), for driving on the beach at Tenby and other beaches locally. I always thought that they might be quite useful in a post-apocalyptic setting. :)
Not that it stopped a mate of mine from drowning one on the beach at Tenby ('You've Been Framed' made him famous)...
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But 'Greensleeves' means they've run out! :'(
Doesn't it....? :o
I did feel a bit sorry for my pair after sending them off on a couple of fruitless quests. In our old place, the odd acoustics of living slap bang against a creek and at the bottom of a dip meant the sound coming from some distance away and across the raging torrent/ stagnant pool. Now we are on a major road in a bit more 'stabby' part of the world so I suspect that training will go to waste. On the other hand, the time spent teaching my daughter the rudiments of bayonet fighting may come in handy.
Now that he has the ice cream van hopefully Akky will include the boys from the KLF. Tammy Wynette optional. :D
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Now that he has the ice cream van hopefully Akky will include the boys from the KLF. Tammy Wynette optional. :D
That might be 'Justified' but definitely 'Ancient' lol lol lol
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So cool, and that's not just the ice cream. Over here we had the Popeye the sailor man theme, and that's what came to mind when I saw the pic :D
This thread a spectacle, but the ice cream truck takes the cake.
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So cool, and that's not just the ice cream. Over here we had the Popeye the sailor man theme, and that's what came to mind when I saw the pic :D
This thread a spectacle, but the ice cream truck takes the cake.
Did your dad tell you that 'Popeye the Sailor-Man' meant they'd run out of ice-cream...?
Our ice-cream vans always had 'Watch For Children' written in large letters across the back. Another crushing childhood disappointment, as no matter how many lollies I bought, they never gave me a watch! :-[
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Lovely little ice cream truck there.
Mind you, it could be used as a mobile covert source of black market stuff after the balloon goes up (and comes down). "Yes, I'll have an AK and 100 rounds of ammo to go, please!" :D
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Lovely little ice cream truck there.
Mind you, it could be used as a mobile covert source of black market stuff after the balloon goes up (and comes down). "Yes, I'll have an AK and 100 rounds of ammo to go, please!" :D
oh and some tooty fruity if you have any left.
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Lovely little ice cream truck there.
Mind you, it could be used as a mobile covert source of black market stuff after the balloon goes up (and comes down). "Yes, I'll have an AK and 100 rounds of ammo to go, please!" :D
Would you like a flake with that?
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Quite possibly. It being the 1980s you get that weird, soft porn, ad with the girl and the gypsy wagon as a er….. ‘bonus’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUTdYsZda8
Spose it could be worse, there’s that one with the bint doing the watercolours. Ah 1980s advertising, where the leit motif was often oral sex. ::)
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Quite possibly. It being the 1980s you get that weird, soft porn, ad with the girl and the gypsy wagon as a er….. ‘bonus’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUTdYsZda8
Spose it could be worse, there’s that one with the bint doing the watercolours. Ah 1980s advertising, where the leit motif was often oral sex. ::)
So thats why I dig permed hair, and sundresses. ::)
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As my thread is in danger of disappearing down another entertaining rabbit hole, time for another miniature lol
Toying with an “Eagle has Landed” type scenario, and the following conversion seems to fit the bill.
The torso is from a Space Vixens From Mars mini, with a green stuffed handbag, and the head is borrowed from a Brigade Games Apoc mini (I have another to paint toting a Bren gun).
(https://i.imgur.com/o65NNgX.jpg)
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Great conversion, that! 8)
Power is like being a lady... if you have to tell people you are, you aren't.
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Nice conversion but I would have preferred the figure sans head. ;)
Still, hats off, she lasted longer than a lettuce.
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Great bashed together figure.
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Still, hats off, she lasted longer than a lettuce.
lol lol lol lol lol
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That’s great 8) 8)
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Great thread, having just viewed it from start to finish, I notice that you mention the old Police War Duties Manual. I did a lot of Police War Duties training during the 80's and I can recall that the "Mobile Column" idea was still in vogue, but by that time they were being referred to as PSU's (Police Support Units"), which in theory would consist of an Inspector, two sergeants and about twenty to thirty constables. Transport would probably have been Ford Transit carriers, similar to those used for Shield trained officers. No mention was ever made of firearms, but common sense says that we would have been armed. Hope this is of use.
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The Iron Lady (presuming that's who she's meant to be...) looks good. The thought of her with a Bren Gun reminds me of that figure of Churchill with a Tommy Gun...
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Nice conversion.
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As my thread is in danger of disappearing down another entertaining rabbit hole, time for another miniature lol
Toying with an “Eagle has Landed” type scenario, and the following conversion seems to fit the bill.
The torso is from a Space Vixens From Mars mini, with a green stuffed handbag, and the head is borrowed from a Brigade Games Apoc mini (I have another to paint toting a Bren gun).
(https://i.imgur.com/o65NNgX.jpg)
Great idea. Who plays the Donald Sutherland part?
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Michael Heseltine, obviously. Foreign (well Welsh, near enough), quite tall and wanted to knock off the PM. ;)
Of course if you wanted to be more literal about it, it’s going to be Martin McGuiness, who almost did assassinate the PM. Ardal O’Hanlon to play him in the film. :D
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Hmmm… maybe I need to think about a Hezza figure :D
Just took my dear old Mum out for the afternoon to the local garden centre and was surprised to find the following gem on a charity book store
(https://i.imgur.com/alsaKAZ.jpg?1)
Plenty of inspiration
8)
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Oof, that's some bad trigger discipline.
It's almost like an eighties action movie lol
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I'm sure I've got a copy of that book somewhere, an additional source of inspiration are the old arms and armour press, Tanks/Uniforms/Warships/(whatever the plane one was called) illustrated series, they were published 1983-5 ish, there's a lot of ww2 but they also have a lot of Nato, warsaw pact titles.
Feel free to disregard this information if you already know it.
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Oof, that's some bad trigger discipline.
It's almost like an eighties action movie lol
lol Indeedy. However it's what comes next that causes the stoppage of pay. UD anyone? ;)
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Some more senior brass … apologies to any former generals on LAF if I’ve messed up the uniform, but I was aiming for a Lt.General, which I think means black belt rather than brown, different hat etc
(https://i.imgur.com/CQXowXw.jpg?1)
The base figure is from Crooked Dice, with a new arm, plus some green stuff for the medals etc
(https://i.imgur.com/ZTe1PaU.jpg)
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Love Maggie. The model.
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Nice work on the Lt General.
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Some more senior brass … apologies to any former generals on LAF if I’ve messed up the uniform, but I was aiming for a Lt.General, which I think means black belt rather than brown, different hat etc
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Not a former general but a few comments:
Grandfather's Pistol holster (he wore it on the Somme don't you know?) should be on right, sword on left. Though quite often seen as you have it on the left as it was easier to draw and few carried swords (other than cavalry) in action after early WW1. But the ammo and compass pouches then had to be on right making reloading more difficult.
Black Sam Browne belt may be a relic from when he was in the Rifles as a young chap. Otherwise brown for almost everyone else.
Aiguillette (yellow cord) shows that he is an ADC to the Queen/King or a equerry to a member of the Royal Family.
Cap - either khaki, red band, gold wire badge, khaki peak or very dark blue, red band, gold wire badge polished black peak with gold braiding.
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That's rather attractive little group. Back story of ex-Rifle Brigade/ RGJ general is perfect. The 'Black Mafia' was very much a thing in the 'eighties I understand.
Had a friend who did an exchange posting with the Territorial element while he was up at Cambridge.
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Cheers all :)
A few more brits finished today (including a minor conversion)
(https://i.imgur.com/go1sRyN.jpg)
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Very nice, the trouble is that this is a never ending project. Everyone can think of something else to add to it, irate NAAFI staff anyone lol
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Well the new civ set of some former construction workers is a shoe in.
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Very nice, the trouble is that this is a never ending project. Everyone can think of something else to add to it, irate NAAFI staff anyone lol
Thanks. Also though, the good thing is that this is a never ending project :D
Well the new civ set of some former construction workers is a shoe in.
100% on the list :)
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Possible additions:
Home Service Force (HSF) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Service_Force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Service_Force)
(http://armypicsoftom.weebly.com/uploads/4/1/2/4/412494/5177037.jpg?471)
Royal Military Police (male & female) - roles might include; route/access control, PoW/detention cages
US infantry (Army or USAF) to go with your humvees and Abrams.
Harrier or Sea Harrier
Displaced civilians and civilian organisations dealing with them (NHS, CD, Scouts, Guides etc.)
Civil Defence Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps)
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Those Brits look good.
Like the brass-hats too. They look sufficiently general-like...
And I have those civilians from Empress on order...
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What an excellent thread, how could I have not found it sooner! This full of inspiration for my Zona Albion project, set in late 1970s Northern England, in a landscape abandoned 20 years earlier (see my Return to Zona Alfa thread on the Post-Apocalypse board).
Whilst I'm not (currently) going for sizeable military or police formations, I'm picking up lots of ideas for bits to use. If you go for armed civilians, have a look at the conversions I've done. Also check out the Mofo Falklands range from Gripping Beast for another source of British troops.
Keep up the good work!
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Possible additions:
Home Service Force (HSF) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Service_Force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Service_Force)
(http://armypicsoftom.weebly.com/uploads/4/1/2/4/412494/5177037.jpg?471)
Royal Military Police (male & female) - roles might include; route/access control, PoW/detention cages
US infantry (Army or USAF) to go with your humvees and Abrams.
Harrier or Sea Harrier
Displaced civilians and civilian organisations dealing with them (NHS, CD, Scouts, Guides etc.)
Civil Defence Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps)
I was in the HSF…
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Cheers all, thanks for the comments/ideas, gives me plenty of motivation :)
Possible additions:
Home Service Force (HSF)
Royal Military Police (male & female) - roles might include; route/access control, PoW/detention cages
US infantry (Army or USAF) to go with your humvees and Abrams.
Harrier or Sea Harrier
Displaced civilians and civilian organisations dealing with them (NHS, CD, Scouts, Guides etc.)
Civil Defence Corps
Some good ideas there.
I’ve already got a handful of figures I’m using for HSF that will be guarding an installation/bridge etc
IIRC the Civil Defence Corps was disbanded well before the 1980s (when my project is set) but I’ve got plans for a couple of former members that retained their beret/kit and decide to pitch in after the bomb drops.
I was in the HSF…
Very interesting! Always good to hear any thoughts on assignments/organisation :)
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Fascinating to learn about the HSF. Yet again an interest in wargaming has lead to some real world historical research for me. 👍
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IIRC the Civil Defence Corps was disbanded well before the 1980s (when my project is set) but I’ve got plans for a couple of former members that retained their beret/kit and decide to pitch in after the bomb drops.
Yes it was disbanded in 1968 and much of its hardware and many vehicles went into storage (Landrovers, Thames radio and command vehicles etc (including AFS Green Goddesses which were retained until 2004 or 2005 IIRC) in "secret bunkers". I remember inspecting one in the late 1970s where vehicles from WW2 and the 1950s/60s were stored along with boxes of radios, tents, accommodation stores, telephone exchanges, telephone line laying equipment, ambulances, Land Rover Recce and GS, Thames office/radio/GS and a host of special purpose trailers, generators and much more. My main interest then (1977) lay with CDC Austin (red) and AFS Bedford (Green Goddess) Fire appliances.
So plenty stuff for your modelling skills.
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Would love to have seen one of those bunkers with all the gear stored away :)
A few more vehicles today for the motor pool.
First up a 1/50 Promod Bedford MK … useful as a viable alternative if you don’t fancy converting the corgi diecast. This is a relatively new addition to their range, so worth having a chat with them if you want to make a case for a variant they don’t already have.
(https://i.imgur.com/YMt4xTZ.jpg)
Next up a diecast 1/43 police car….I didn’t “need” anymore police cars, but fancied adding a cortina lol
(https://i.imgur.com/2rPmw9S.jpg)
And finally, a refugee vehicle with a bunch of stowage added.
(https://i.imgur.com/vNIKntD.jpg)
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Nice rides. Love the refugee van...
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Lovely work. At some stage I'm going to have to add some vehicles from this era to my Zona Albion setup, but for the moment it's firmly grounded in the late 50s.
Thanks for mentioning Promod . They are a new one on me, so I must have a look at what they do.l
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'Police chase him home through the dark, rainy, night
Fluorescent jam sandwich with flashing blue light.....'
You might not have needed another police car but your subconscious was looking for a suitable tribute to the late and sadly departed Terry Hall. RIP Terry.
Lovely work mate and thanks for the head's up on Promod. I really wish they did a few more military subjects, they are such nice kits and in just the right scale.
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Nice work.
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Not a lot of progress in the last week or two…been away for work, and then came down with the lurgy. The latest addition is for the growing convoy of refugee/survivor vehicles - a diecast, with a bunch of stowage from my bits box.
(https://i.imgur.com/ruLh1fy.jpg)
Group shot of the vans (also have a few “specials” such as the bus and the ice cream van)
(https://i.imgur.com/06pdI8U.jpg)
Vehicles are fun to do, but of course I also need plenty of extra survivor/refugee types on foot… Plenty in the painting queue, but I’ll also be repurposing some figures from previous projects.
The following is a good example - an APEX investigator from Fenris Games
(https://i.imgur.com/VXtbcv5.jpg)
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Great work on that VW bus. Well done!
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Wow dude! I continue to love your work. 👍
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Looking good!
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Fantastic. Really like those. :-*
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Lovely work. I agree that vehicles are fun to do and they certainly enhance game tables. I'm currently enjoying distressing 1950s vehicles for my Zona Albion project.
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Great looking little vans!
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Very nice work on those vans.
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Thanks everyone, having plenty of fun with this project…trouble is the ideas keep spiralling out of control lol
Apart from more British Armed Forces, more Soviets, I’m going to continue to build up the civilian authorities, and of course a whole bunch of refugees/survivors.
Thinking of bulking out the police to form a PSU - Police Support Unit :)
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…trouble is the ideas keep spiralling out of control lol
I don't think anyone is surprised by that. ;)
If you start building a navy we'll stage an intervention for you... or help build it, one or the other.
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Thanks everyone, having plenty of fun with this project…trouble is the ideas keep spiralling out of control lol
Er - I thought that was normal... :D
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Yep, this thread even encouraged me to branch off and make a selection of 'Winter of '79' style insurgents myself. A distraction I really didn't need. :)
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Thanks everyone, having plenty of fun with this project…trouble is the ideas keep spiralling out of control lol
Er - I thought that was normal... :D
Er. Wotz NoRmAl in dis hobby ??? ??? ???
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nice vans
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A supply trailer for my Rapier
1/48 metal kit from ASAM
(https://i.imgur.com/vAE7Y4j.jpg)
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That set should prove to be very versatile, not just as a Rapier supply trailer. Either way, it looks great!
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Nice trailer.
Have you got a link for the kit, my google-fu is weak...
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Nice trailer.
Have you got a link for the kit, my google-fu is weak...
http://www.asam.co.uk/plnber18.html
Metal kits, so certainly not cheap (picked this one up second hand off of fleabay)
A resin trailer might be an interesting subject for an accessory for Paul’s Landies…
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Thanks
A resin trailer might be an interesting subject for an accessory for Paul’s Landies…
A good point.
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Nice addition mate!
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Cheers all :)
Todays update:
A farmer … usable as a refugee vehicle or a “wandering monster”
Empress Landrover with a kitbashed driver.
(https://i.imgur.com/2iyhbQy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z5wgBig.jpg)
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Cool. Love the dog riding shotgun...
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A tidy little model. Like it 8)
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Very nice work.
He is a very hardy farmer, driving around in the snow in an open top Land Rover with the windscreen down.
Not sure about what looks like a shotgun loose in the back, especially when carrying a dog. Dogs have a reputation for shooting their owners with them if they get the opportunity.
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He is a very hardy farmer, driving around in the snow in an open top Land Rover with the windscreen down.
Not sure about what looks like a shotgun loose in the back, especially when carrying a dog.
Seems like a typical hill farmer to me, well with a less dented landy than normal. ;)
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He is a very hardy farmer, driving around in the snow in an open top Land Rover with the windscreen down.
Doesn’t want to take out his windscreen when he cuts down some stranger with the shottie…. either that or the dog likes the breeze.
And the open top Landie is a thing even in the snow round here … lol
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Reminds me of my Uncle Eurfryn, a hill-farmer from the Preseli Mountains of Pembrokeshire (where the Stonehenge Bluestones came from), except Eurfryn's Landie was full of ankle-biting mentalist Corgis! >:(
(He was probably the very last farmer using them as working cattle-dogs, in the 1980s.)
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Love it...! There need to be more dogs in games... :-*
Mike Demana
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Reminds me of my Uncle Eurfryn, a hill-farmer from the Preseli Mountains of Pembrokeshire (where the Stonehenge Bluestones came from), except Eurfryn's Landie was full of ankle-biting mentalist Corgis! >:(
(He was probably the very last farmer using them as working cattle-dogs, in the 1980s.)
I dunno. I had a great-aunt with ankle-biting, mentalist, sectarian, dachshunds, whom she would set upon unwanted visitors with the command "Romans!"
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I dunno. I had a great-aunt with ankle-biting, mentalist, sectarian, dachshunds, whom she would set upon unwanted visitors with the command "Romans!"
Such stories are...Legion. :D
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I dunno. I had a great-aunt with ankle-biting, mentalist, sectarian, dachshunds, whom she would set upon unwanted visitors with the command "Romans!"
Nothing wrong with Dachshunds ;)
Love the Landy :-*
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Lol. Those Dachshunds must have had Goth ancestors...
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Just to be clear, it was the dachshunds who had sectarian hatred in their hearts. The aunt was totally even-handed in her dislikes. Jehovah's False Witnesses, Seventh Day Apprentices, the local vicar, the man from the gas board or someone selling double-glazing would all get the 'Mitzy, Schitzy (or whatever the other one's name was) Romans!' treatment.
Oddly enough, where she lived I suspect she had an only slightly higher chance of encountering a member of the Catholic curia as she had a Roman legionnaire.
The Land Rover looks ace!
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The Land Rover looks ace!
Thanks mate.
For a moment there I thought we were going to go off topic lol
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Love the Landy and its crew.
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Lovely work on the Landy. This project is giving me lots of inspiration for my current Zona Alfa project. Keep 'em coming :-*
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Back on it after a break to recharge my batteries…
Next up some transport for my Police Support Unit (1/43 diecasts)
(https://i.imgur.com/98yG8pQ.jpg)
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That's a lot of rozzers! :-*
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Terrific 👍👍👍
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Lot Fuzz!
Nice work on those 8)
I always do my darnest to paint all kinds of reflections and blends on my windows, but this fogged over look actually works really well too! How did you do this? Just a light (not fully covering) overspray with a white or light grey?
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Lot Fuzz!
Nice work on those 8)
I always do my darnest to paint all kinds of reflections and blends on my windows, but this fogged over look actually works really well too! How did you do this? Just a light (not fully covering) overspray with a white or light grey?
The fogged look is ideal for the chilly conditions that I've set my game in, and couldn't be easier to do...just don't mask the windows and spray lightly with a matt varnish
:)
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Like police vans, may have to resort to that type if can’t find white meat wagon. Can you remember who’s make they are.
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Nice.
Did they come as police vans?
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Did they come as police vans?
Yup. Decals & blue light already attached
Can you remember who’s make they are.
1/43 vanguard transits
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What a great project, now over 2 years later. Did you make your own rules in the end? The encounter tables in All Things Zombie might provide some inspiration.
Our ice-cream vans always had 'Watch For Children' written in large letters across the back. Another crushing childhood disappointment, as no matter how many lollies I bought, they never gave me a watch! :-[
lol I appreciated this, even if I am the only one that 'clocked' it.
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What a great project, now over 2 years later. Did you make your own rules in the end? The encounter tables in All Things Zombie might provide some inspiration.
Thanks. I've been using my own zombie rules AR:SE as the random turn system, combat etc is easily modified, although I'm also toying with FFOL
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Nice vans. They look great!
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Ford Transits. Lovely jubbly.
This is a
Labour of love, Matt. Keep going!
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Lots to inspire here 👍