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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: mkultra99 on May 26, 2021, 04:52:20 PM
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The club is looking to get involved with the Punic Wars and teh talk has turned to "skirmish" and "campaign". We know about ASoBaH, Lion Rampant, SPQR, Mortal Gods, Ravenfeast, etc etc etc. But maybe there is something out there a bit more purpose built?
And just for laughs has anyone read/ or actually tried the "new" SPQR?
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Apart from suggesting Fistful of Lead reloaded, or maybe
their upcoming D&D sets, as that is what I plan to use
for Ancient Skirmish, or Men of Bronze, which my mate
Vodkafan wants to try out, I have little to contribute.
I am, however, very interested in what suggestions/possibilities
are out there.
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Infamy. Infamy! will have a punic wars variant.
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Infamy. Infamy! will have a punic wars variant.
+1. I am playing Infamy, Infamy basic set and I find it an excellent game.
I can't wait for the Punic expansion :P
Marco
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Hi, I don't recognise the acronym AsoBaH, but have you looked at SAGA "Age of Hannibal". That would seem to tick your boxes. Like Marco also waiting with baited breath for the reported Infamy Punic Wars supplement.
Regards.
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Hi, I don't recognise the acronym AsoBaH,
I think it is, 'A song of Blades and Heroes'
A system about which I have heard a lot of nice comments,
but which I have never played.
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Clash of Spears was specifically designed for this purpose. A review:
https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2020/10/review-clash-of-spears-fighting-hedgehog.html
In November, Osprey is also coming out with Wars of the Republic which will feature forces of 5-8 units or so that will work as well. It is more big battles with small model count unit-vs-unit combat thought. It is based on Men of Bronze, and has lists and rules specific to the Punic War.
https://www.bloomsbury.com/in/wars-of-the-republic-9781472844903/
Saga also has the Age of Hannibal supplement as well....
https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/SRB25_SAGA_Age_of_Hannibal--product--6076.html
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Apart from suggesting Fistful of Lead reloaded
Does it work good for ancient? I think it works quite well for people with guns shooting each other, but I am not sure if it's still good when there are no guns and almost all combat is melee. I wish it would, because it ticks all boxes for my gaming group and I'd like to use it for ancient too
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When you say Skirmish, do you want Model vs Model or Unit vs Unit skirmish?
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We are looking for a "warband" skirmish style game.. so unit vs unit. This is the list of rules I've compiled that fit our parameters.
SAGA
WAB
Clash of Spears
Lion rampant
Fistful of Lead: Big Battles
Anything I've missed?
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Depends. What are your parameters?
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Saga Age of Hannibal is very good and has much more historical flavour than I expected
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Does it work good for ancient? I think it works quite well for people with guns shooting each other, but I am not sure if it's still good when there are no guns and almost all combat is melee. I wish it would, because it ticks all boxes for my gaming group and I'd like to use it for ancient too
Short answer is...YES.
Several games on LAF where it is used for Medieval & seems to work fine.
Lots of 'shooting' at each other in Ancients:- Bows, slings, javelins, pilum,
catapults, (primitive) crossbows, (equally primitive) hand grenades (Naphtha, or Hannibal with pots full of snakes), just to list a few, just
no gunpowder.
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You've already mentioned A Song of Blades and Heroes. Units can be tailored with the various traits very nicely for a small game. I've played a fistful of lead variant with combat heavy forces and they hold up fine. The world's your oyster, so to speak. I also like the Chaos Wars successors like Lion Rampant etc which can be tailored pretty easily.
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If someone in your group is willing to do RPG-minded GM work, and if your friends are not too competitive, "Argad!" can certainly be adapted.
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I echo the endorsement of Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes. Good skirmish set that can be tailored to fit the period.
Mike Demana
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
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Short answer is...YES.
Several games on LAF where it is used for Medieval & seems to work fine.
Lots of 'shooting' at each other in Ancients:- Bows, slings, javelins, pilum,
catapults, (primitive) crossbows, (equally primitive) hand grenades (Naphtha, or Hannibal with pots full of snakes), just to list a few, just
no gunpowder.
FFoL works superlatively well for small scale ancient/medieval action. We've used it for Greek, Dark Age, and Samurai warfare. For 5-10 models a side, you cannot beat it for versitility.
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We are looking for a "warband" skirmish style game.. so unit vs unit. This is the list of rules I've compiled that fit our parameters.
SAGA
WAB
Clash of Spears
Lion rampant
Fistful of Lead: Big Battles
Anything I've missed?
I've been looking for something similar and hopefully have found a winning combo with a slightly modified WAB - at least for enticing fantasy players over. Do a google search for "WFB warbands", a pdf should be the top result - it's for the old Warhammer Fantasy warband rules they had for free on the GW website that were basically reducing unit minimums and a few other tweaks alongside some campaign ideas.
To apply it to WAB I'd say start off without using characters, just use a unit's champion as the force commander, and reduce unit minimums to 3 (maybe 5?) for infantry and 2 for cavalry. From there it depends on what size you go for. A 500 point army will have 2 or 3 10-15 man units and can squeeze in some cavalry if needed. If you opt to do an escalation league from this level it's easy to add on the 100 points between games then you could have a big blow-off at the end. It's got a strong Tale of Four Gamers vibe when mixed with the escalation league idea.