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Title: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Kelroy was here on September 10, 2009, 10:50:19 PM
Hi all, long time Lurker, second-time Poster. A short while back I saw someone's beautifully painted Sardaukar figures, as well as their conversions for the Fremen and the Dune worms. Alas, I did not bookmark the location! I've exhausted my google-fu, and even searched back through my web browser's history with no luck. It may not necessarily have been on LAF either.

Does anyone out there in the Great InterWebsTubes have a link to share? Surely something as amazing as this person's work will be known to more than just myself.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: matakishi on September 10, 2009, 11:56:24 PM
These:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/43775-Full%20Fremen%20Army%202.html

(http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/7/21/43775_md-Display%2C%20Dune%2C%20Fremen.JPG)
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Kelroy was here on September 11, 2009, 12:10:22 AM
That's them, thanks!
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Calimero on September 11, 2009, 12:13:42 AM

... and the making off...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/249238.page  8)
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: warrenss2 on September 11, 2009, 12:23:49 AM
 :o 
 :-*
 o_o
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Bako on September 11, 2009, 12:32:02 AM
Oh wow, those are excellent. I would have gone a different way though. But I do like what he did.
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: warrenss2 on September 11, 2009, 01:17:15 AM
Although the sandworms are great, they need to be BIGGER
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Cosmotiger on September 11, 2009, 04:13:55 AM
It's nice paint and conversion work, no doubt. 

But I thought the Fremen kept their faces and heads covered to retain moisture?  A little artistic license there, I guess.

(At least, that's how I remember it, but it's been a long time since I read Dune).
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on September 11, 2009, 09:30:53 AM
Although the sandworms are great, they need to be BIGGER

Maybe using plastic water-mains pipes or 2L coke bottles chopped and re-shaped as a basis?  ;)
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Malebolgia on September 11, 2009, 09:45:53 AM
Love the theme, love the fremen, totally dislike the Sardaukar. They just don't look like the supersoldiers in heavy armor. They look too much like light infantry to me. I think some Starship Troopers Infantry models will be much better as Sardaukar. Okay, the army won't be tournament legal anymore. Storm Troopers are also a viable option then.
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: AKULA on September 11, 2009, 10:05:23 AM
Very inspirational!

 :)
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: TheMightyFlip on September 11, 2009, 10:06:57 AM
Damn, makes me want to play Dune 2 on an Amiga again!
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Kelroy was here on September 11, 2009, 03:45:37 PM
But I thought the Fremen kept their faces and heads covered to retain moisture?  A little artistic license there, I guess.

(At least, that's how I remember it, but it's been a long time since I read Dune).

I think he's going from the David Lynch movie version, more than the book.
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Captain Blood on September 11, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
Yes, I think so. Not my vision of either the Fremen or the dreaded sardaukar - I always saw more flowing robes in my mind's eye.
But the leathery biker gear is very David Lynch, whilst the Sardaukar as envisaged here are just very, erm.. Games Workshop looking.
GW stylee Space Marine-alikes are definitely not my idea of Sardaukar.
But then it's an individual imagination thing...

Brilliant conversion and painting work though. No doubt about that.

I'm waiting for the happy day when Peter Jackson gives Dune the epic trilogy treatment he gave LOTR.
Now that would be a vision of Frank Herbert's universe worth seeing... 
Perhaps I'll write to him and suggest it  ;)
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on September 11, 2009, 05:42:36 PM
Yes, I think so. Not my vision of either the Fremen or the dreaded sardaukar - I always saw more flowing robes in my mind's eye.
But the leathery biker gear is very David Lynch, whilst the Sardaukar as envisaged here are just very, erm.. Games Workshop looking.
GW stylee Space Marine-alikes are definitely not my idea of Sardaukar.
But then it's an individual imagination thing...

Brilliant conversion and painting work though. No doubt about that.

I'm waiting for the happy day when Peter Jackson gives Dune the epic trilogy treatment he gave LOTR.
Now that would be a vision of Frank Herbert's universe worth seeing... 
Perhaps I'll write to him and suggest it  ;)

Yes, I'd always thought of the Fremen as a cross between Jedi and Arabs, in terms of their dress. They would keep their still-suits covered to reduce vapour loss and they should have goggles, masks and tubes up their noses to retain moisture lost through respiration. I see the Sardaukar more like fully armoured SS troops, actually not dissimilar to the "Halo" troops mentioned elsewhere in our Future Wars forum. Well, I did read Dune in the late 70's  ::)

The GW influence in the pics is probably because DakkaDakka is a GW "fanboy" site and of course, they are not allowed to use other figures  ;)

Wow! PJ doing Dune  :o  Wouldn't that be something to see!  If you do write and he takes up your suggestion, I'll be your slave for life  lol
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: warrenss2 on September 11, 2009, 06:49:42 PM
Maybe using plastic water-mains pipes or 2L coke bottles chopped and re-shaped as a basis?

That might have worked very well!  :D
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Bako on September 12, 2009, 12:26:59 AM
I'm waiting for the happy day when Peter Jackson gives Dune the epic trilogy treatment he gave LOTR.
Now that would be a vision of Frank Herbert's universe worth seeing... 
Perhaps I'll write to him and suggest it  ;)

You're not the only one thinking this! :o :-*
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Commander Vyper on September 12, 2009, 07:49:07 AM
Very nice conversions, really captured the David Linch Dune re: fremen.

I'd have gone for the necroduma van saar personally as the still suits are already there, maybe add robes and headscarves in a similar manner as General Grevious droid bodyguards, (ie very desert nomad).

The Harkonen look reasonably milliant in there design, nice us of one of the pigiron heads on the imperial guard.

And really like the abuse of that car model and the flyer is inspirational. Who'd have thought.... just turn that smile upsidedown!

:)

The Commander
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: sukhe_bator on December 11, 2009, 10:27:45 AM
I too would have preferred more arab/tuareg like robes and headgear.
F.y.o. the sandpeople in 'Star Wars' as originally envisaged by conceptual artist Ralph McQuarrie drew heavy inspiration from James Herbert's descriptions of the Fremen, even down to the face coverings and flowing robes-  though they subsequently evolved into humanoid creatures.
I admire this chap's utter dedication to the concept and the quality of his conversions - quite inspirational. I always thought though that the only way to wargame Dune properly would be in (Heresy!) :o :o :o 15mm or smaller, to enable the worms to feature properly. Even then they'd be massive!
Title: Re: Dune Sardaukar miniatures help
Post by: Viper on December 11, 2009, 12:19:36 PM
It is a very impressive army, lots of good ideas and a lot of great conversion work.

It doesn't quite match up with my visions of the Fremen or Sardaukar either though.

I grew up playing the Dune II RTS game, and then later read the first book, in that game the fremen, while weapons wise are a little off (rocket launchers), they are fully robed up and everything.
(http://www.sci-fi-o-rama.com/wp-content/uploads/fremen.jpg)

The Sardaukar on the other hand, are high tech battle armour, the best the Emperor can afford.
(http://www.sci-fi-o-rama.com/wp-content/uploads/sardaukar.jpg)

Also the more time I spend looking at real/non-heroic scaled models, which I've been doing a lot of since stopping playing the Evil Empire games, the weirder and more noticable "heroic" scale models look.
 :?