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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: trev on June 09, 2021, 10:10:04 AM
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Hi all,
What's the consensus on the French Revolutionary wars in 28mm? I'm thinking circa 1792-1801, probably more the later part, especially Italy ot Egypt. How do the various ranges match up size and style wise?
This is what I'm aware of:
Eureka
https://www.eurekaminuk.com/collections/wars-of-the-french-revolution (https://www.eurekaminuk.com/collections/wars-of-the-french-revolution)
Brigade Games Egypt range
https://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Napoleonic-French_c_339.html (https://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Napoleonic-French_c_339.html)
EMPEROR TOADS EMPORIUM
https://emperortoadsemporium.co.uk/store (https://emperortoadsemporium.co.uk/store)
Trent Miniatures
https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/product-category/trent-miniatures/ (https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/product-category/trent-miniatures/)
Elite Miniatures
http://www.eliteminiatures.co.uk/iainf.html (http://www.eliteminiatures.co.uk/iainf.html)
Perry Miniatures
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product-category/metal-ranges/napoleonic/french-in-egypt/ (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product-category/metal-ranges/napoleonic/french-in-egypt/)
Have I missed any others? I don't think there are revolutionary period plastics but are any of the Consular/Imperial era plastics easy to convert?
Who does the best flags?
GMD seem to do some.
https://gmbdesigns.com/product-category/28mm-range/28mm-range-napoleonic-wars/28mm-range-revolutionary-wars/ (https://gmbdesigns.com/product-category/28mm-range/28mm-range-napoleonic-wars/28mm-range-revolutionary-wars/)
Thoughts or links to others' projects appreciated.
Cheers,
Trev
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I don’t know of any other manufacturers myself. Once Eureka releases their Piedmont-Sardinian forces, I will start doing the campaigns of the army of Italy. I think Perry miniatures French Hussars can be used for the wars of the French Revolution but don’t take that as gospel, I’d have to check again to be sure.
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Thoughts or links to others' projects appreciated.
There is a very long thread with many pictures of figures in various states of painting on An Argader forum (in French) but its specific project is the battle of Quiberon (Brittany) 1795:
https://www.anargader.net/t2159-quiberon-sa-cote-ses-chouans-ses-bastons
Link to an AAR two years ago with some of the same figures and players:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=116715.msg1460264#msg1460264
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Lots to see at ~
www.talesfromghq.blogspot.co.uk
if you go via the sidebar to French Revolutionary War. I have figures from 11 different manufacturers represented. You hardly notice the difference in style etc on the table we find.
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Dixon Miniatures have a large range. Same scale and sculptor of their Grand Alliance figures the Dromedary Corps are especially good.
https://www.dixon-minis.com/shop/napoleonic-wars-25mm/
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Thanks for all the input, that's very helpful and inspiring. Some great armies and scenery there with lots to look through.
I remembered foundry do some revolutionary war figures
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-austrian-napoleonic (https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-austrian-napoleonic)
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-french-napoleonic (https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-french-napoleonic)
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-prussian-napoleonic (https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/early-prussian-napoleonic)
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/french-napoleonic-1 (https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/french-napoleonic-1)
and also Victorius do some British
https://victoriousminiatures.com/product-category/28mm-napoleonic/28mm-napoleonic-british/ (https://victoriousminiatures.com/product-category/28mm-napoleonic/28mm-napoleonic-british/)
I haven't been able to find any size comparison shots yet but I haven't search all the links above.
Cheers,
T
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CP models:
https://cpmodels.co.uk/shop/hp06-french-revolutionary-generals/
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I am personally in love with Emperor Toad's work. Their range coverage for the Revolutionary Wars is excellent and I am very happy with their Vendeens. They actually recently released a whole slew of new models for republican French armies
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I'd love to do this period but in smaller scales, 15/10 or 6mm
Any ideas on suppliers
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The Emperor’s Toad figures look very nice. I have also looked in the past looked at the Trent Miniatures range sold by Northstar but these seem to have disappeared from their website. I even bought a few character packs
Does anyone know what has happened to Trent Miniature?
Thanks
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FYI, you can definitely use some of the Perry plastics for the Revolutionary period, like their French Hussars, Austrian Cav. You need some basic conversion skills but all is possible, and easier in plastic!
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Regarding Trent, maybe the effect ook f the passing of Du ucan Macfarlane?
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Thanks for extra comments.
Regarding Trent, maybe the effect ook f the passing of Du ucan Macfarlane?
That was sad news about Duncan. The Trent figures do seem to still be available here.
https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/product-category/trent-miniatures/ (https://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/product-category/trent-miniatures/)
Well remembered on those generals from CP models Traveller. They are rather good. I'd seen them before but forgotten where. Pity they don't do them mounted or just more of a range, the sculpting is great. Nice guy to buy from in past experience too.
FYI, you can definitely use some of the Perry plastics for the Revolutionary period, like their French Hussars, Austrian Cav. You need some basic conversion skills but all is possible, and easier in plastic!
Good tips. The Perrys do Bicorn heads too that might be useful.
I found a few more manufacturers too.
Old Glory have some Egypt figures
http://oldgloryuk.com/napoleon-in-egypt/9/68 (http://oldgloryuk.com/napoleon-in-egypt/9/68)
Their 1807 French might do as well. Are there significant changes in the uniform from the 1790s? Is it just the coat length? I've looked at pictures and nothing leaps out.
http://oldgloryuk.com/1807-infantry-in-campaign-dress/bicorn/9/29/106/105 (http://oldgloryuk.com/1807-infantry-in-campaign-dress/bicorn/9/29/106/105)
These victrix French infantry are the same and in plastic.
https://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/french-napoleonics/products/french-napoleonic-infantry-1804-1807 (https://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/french-napoleonics/products/french-napoleonic-infantry-1804-1807)
I generally prefer metal as I like the heft but the new plastics are now very good and much easier to convert or kitbash.
I'd love to do this period but in smaller scales, 15/10 or 6mm
Any ideas on suppliers
I haven't done 15mm in ages, my eyes are too bad now. AB were very nice in those days but I can't remember if they did Revolutionary war. My club mates have done later Napoleonics in 28mm and it does get a bit crowded with big units. The depth is the biggest issue. Tables can be wider and deeper but arms to reach the middle don't get any longer. :D
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In 15mm old glory, blue moon, sho boki, ab figures, irregular miniatures and chariot I am aware of
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In 15mm old glory, blue moon, sho boki, ab figures, irregular miniatures and chariot I am aware of
Thanks
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There is also a ”hidden” OG 25mm range of figures for the storming of the Tuileries. Is is not on the OG webpage but can be ordered. I recently bought 2 packs of revolutionary mob minis.
Considering the number of troops dressed as civilians in the early French armies there are useful minis in many SYW/FIW ranges as well as West Winds Gothic Horror ranges
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The difference between 1807 French and French revolutionary is small (different hair, longer but certainly neater coats, no light companies included, different flags of course). But of course, in the FR period the style of dress is also different (less formal and partly civilian) for the volunteers and conscriptions. In the FR they used also battalion guns.
Regarding the Perry plastic austrian cavalry, these have the post 1801 uniform; afaik up to 1801 the cavalry still wore the open coat and tricorne/bicorn (the Ottenfeldt prints are wrong imho)
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There is also a ”hidden” OG 25mm range of figures for the storming of the Tuileries. Is is not on the OG webpage but can be ordered. I recently bought 2 packs of revolutionary mob minis.
Intriguing. I will have to search for pictures.
The difference between ...
Thanks.
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Here are some of the mob figures:
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1phc5f8/Rev-Mob.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rC7knW8)
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Nice. Thanks for posting.
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Eagle Figures have figures in 28mm for the French. Including cavalry in Mirliton.
https://www.eaglefigures.co.uk/28mm-napoleonic-french/revolutionary-infantry/
Cheers
Ian
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A few more 28mm ranges not yet mentioned:
Britannia Miniatures ( run by Andy Grubb of Redoubt) has a small Egypt range; a bit on the large side like most things by Britannia, but some nice Mamelukes with riders cast on the horses.
https://www.grubbytanks.com/product-category/britannia-miniatures/28mm-ranges/28mm-napolionics/28mm-napoleons-egyptian-campaign/
Reiver has a small range of 1792 Brits, Vendeeans and Bavarians in Rumford Kasketts; a good match for Trent and I like them but the poses are limited:
https://www.paintinghistory.co.uk/french-revolutionary-wars
Finally, Irregular has been mentioned but not I think their newer 30mm Early Napoleonic line. They're a bit old-school and thinner than most ranges, but have a full range of French and Austrians. The cavalry matches modern 28mm better than the infantry. There are also some nice mamelukes:
http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/30mm/25mmNapoleonics.htm
Good hunting,
Peter
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Just saw this KS for Quiberon:
https://emperortoadsemporium.co.uk/