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Title: Classic Tyranid Vehicle Sculpts - Trygon Added 23/03/07
Post by: Cait Sidhe on July 14, 2021, 11:28:31 AM
So among the projects I'll eventually get around to painting is a Tyranid 2nd Edition force I've built up over the years. I've always wanted a couple of the old Armorcast resin "vehicles" they did at the time, particularly the Malefactor, but given they're pretty rare and go for £100+ I've never gotten one. The original is below for those not familiar with them:

(https://i.imgur.com/U6pyVqA.jpg)

Having bought a 3D printer last year and running it pretty much ever since, I got the idea to see if I could make my own homemade version. After playing around for 20 minutes or so I managed to come up with this sorry thing...

(https://i.imgur.com/uqRgkMz.png)

...but I realised I could probably knock something up with a proper reference... so after getting the proportions right...

(https://i.imgur.com/bmJid85.png)

I've worked on it over the last week and while it's it's not an exact copy I feel it's pretty recognisable as a Malefactor so pretty happy with it. Pics with one of the arms hidden so it can actually be seen:

(https://i.imgur.com/rSniwVI.png)

and the full thing...

(https://i.imgur.com/ZvmzBjY.png)

Haven't gotten to printing it yet as my printer is set up for smaller miniatures and is having some... issues.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: fred on July 14, 2021, 12:22:13 PM
Looking good - I have a number of epic sized Malefactors - will be interested to see how big a 40k sized one is!
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on July 14, 2021, 12:48:41 PM
Looks good to me, although the Epic metal ones (and all of that style of "snail crawler" biotanks) had distinct ridges visible on at ground level where you've got a smooth look going.  I always assumed the sculptor was trying to either show the ripples in the "foot" of the snail "drive system" as it moved or the things were actually walking around on countless smaller pseudopods instead of one big one.  The armored carapace went all the way back on the metals too with no exposed fleshy bits at the back, just that glimpse at the sides below the Tyranid version of track guard armor.  The Armorcast sculpt changed that though, and yours looks faithful to that.

So, now that you've got the basic body shape drafted, when do we get to see the Haruspex, Exocrine, and long-lost Dactylis designs?  :)

If it isn't obvious I loved the Epic Tyranid sculpts, particular the incredibly varied ones from the Epic 40K era of the game system.  Wish the folks over at Vanguard miniatures would give them the same treatment their definitely-not-Imperials, Orcs, Chaos and Eldar have gotten.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: Cait Sidhe on July 14, 2021, 01:57:12 PM
Looks good to me, although the Epic metal ones (and all of that style of "snail crawler" biotanks) had distinct ridges visible on at ground level where you've got a smooth look going.  I always assumed the sculptor was trying to either show the ripples in the "foot" of the snail "drive system" as it moved or the things were actually walking around on countless smaller pseudopods instead of one big one.  The armored carapace went all the way back on the metals too with no exposed fleshy bits at the back, just that glimpse at the sides below the Tyranid version of track guard armor.  The Armorcast sculpt changed that though, and yours looks faithful to that.

Well... now that I look at my reference again it seems the tail end is armoured, it's just the person painted it the same colour as the foot and I didn't pay attention to the textures...

(https://i.imgur.com/VgTVuon.jpg)

Oh well, it's not entirely identical anyway and I kinda like the slug foot look.

...and yes bolstered by this success I fully intend to cut it's face off and have a go at an Exocrine, Haruspex and even maybe a Dactylis. They all have slightly different back ends but since I'm not going for exact match I'll just change the spikes for like fins on the dactylis etc.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on July 14, 2021, 02:35:12 PM
If you do decide to do more (something 3D printing ought to make easier, right?  just modify the original file?) there's a pretty good photo reference to the Epic ones here:

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Epic_Tyranid_-_Collectors_Guide
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: fred on July 14, 2021, 07:47:05 PM
If you want photos of the Epic ones, let me know, I have some of the GW ones in my collection, definitely Malefactor and Haruspex.

As to other sources of epic scaled ones, have a look at Winter’s Bioforge over in France, very nice resin versions of Dactylis and Exocrine. A little larger than the originals, but very much epic sized.

Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on July 15, 2021, 03:26:40 PM
As to other sources of epic scaled ones, have a look at Winter’s Bioforge over in France, very nice resin versions of Dactylis and Exocrine. A little larger than the originals, but very much epic sized.

Fantastic BFG bioships too, but are they still actively selling?  Hasn't been an update there in about four years, and I never heard back when I tried to get in touch about three years back.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Malefactor
Post by: fred on July 15, 2021, 07:46:47 PM
I don’t know - last email I have is from the end of 2018
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid "Vehicles"
Post by: Cait Sidhe on July 24, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
Well took a bit longer but I whacked the front (head?) off the malefactor and made an Exocrine. Pretty happy with it in the end... onto the Haruspex I guess.

(https://i.imgur.com/V0wbAAp.png)
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid "Vehicles" - Exocrine Added 24/07
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on July 24, 2021, 09:08:25 PM
Looks good to me.  Fond memories of getting into company level tank battles against IG Russ tanks and Marine Land Raiders with those things back when Epic was hot.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Haruspex Added 27/07
Post by: Cait Sidhe on July 27, 2021, 09:56:03 PM
...and the round out the original Armourcast vehicles the Haruspex. Didn't take quite as long as the others but it is the only one with a face and it shows... Couldn't get it quite right. Also not sure about the textures on the claws and acid jets but I saved a version without.

(https://i.imgur.com/JYGvRng.png)


...and a complete shot with both arms.
(https://i.imgur.com/T5Fur0H.png)
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Haruspex Added 27/07
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on July 28, 2021, 06:36:38 PM
Looks good.  And once again I'm struck by the fact that the current GW Haruspex sculpt is kind of ridiculous looking.

(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120106026_Haruspex01.jpg)

"These things would be a lot harder to kill if they'd stop everting their vital organs like that."  - Deathwatch Sergeant Maximus Pragmaticus

Not that it's alone in that.

(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/threeSixty/99120106033_TyranidMaleceptor360/01.jpg)

"I suppose growing a half-dozen extra brains is helpful for channeling psychic energy, but maybe next time you should evolve a bigger skull too so they can all fit inside it?"  - Deathwatch Sergeant Maximus Pragmaticus

(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/threeSixty/99120106035_TyranidZoanthropes360/01.jpg)

"Look, I don't like to harp on about this but having holes in your skull that open directly onto your soft, squishy brain is really just making things too easy for us."  - Deathwatch Sergeant Maximus Pragmaticus

You going to tackle the Dactylis, aka the Baseball Pitcher From Hell?

Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Haruspex Added 27/07
Post by: Cait Sidhe on July 28, 2021, 08:34:18 PM
"These things would be a lot harder to kill if they'd stop everting their vital organs like that."  - Deathwatch Sergeant Maximus Pragmaticus

 lol To be fair, the old Zoanthrope had exposed fleshy brain bits.

You going to tackle the Dactylis, aka the Baseball Pitcher From Hell?

I will do, probably going to be a bit more work though. The original imho is the most crudely designed/sculpted out of the tanks. Like the bit where it supposedly pulls the projectiles from is just a blob with circles drawn on so it's going to take more work to make it look decent... probably base the growths on spore mines or something.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Dactylis Added 07/08
Post by: Cait Sidhe on August 07, 2021, 02:21:11 PM
Well, finally finished the Dactylis and it was a slog. The 40k scale Dactylis wasn't made by Armorcast and instead by Forgeworld (not the current one) who also had licences to produce resin 40k vehicles. The sculpt is really quite crude, all the extra detail they added over the Epic one is awful. In the end I kinda mixed elements of both the 40k and Epic Dactylis and just made up the arms based on the previous 'nids I did.

(https://i.imgur.com/zWetMsu.png)

I originally put tendrils on the spore mine, as below, but they were a pain to pose on the arms so just turned them into the original ball ammunition but with frag spore mine details.

(https://i.imgur.com/g3OmgIC.png)
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Dactylis Added 07/08
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on August 07, 2021, 02:30:52 PM
Ah, there's my favorite of the Epic bio-vehicle designs.  Your version looks good to me, certainly better than the lackluster old-FW one.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Dactylis Added 07/08
Post by: Cait Sidhe on February 03, 2022, 01:17:27 AM
Well, been a while but I had someone asking about these a couple weeks back so I finally got around to printing some out as a test... scaled down to Epic sizes though rather than the full 28mm I plan to do in future.

(https://i.imgur.com/ndxfh6f.png)(https://i.imgur.com/aGrFXGy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/2saJhIH.png)(https://i.imgur.com/KKaTKTk.png)

...and a group shot, the sizes vary a bit, I seem to have made the Malefactor quite wide but I guess it works as it's meant to be carrying a squad of tyranids inside.

(https://i.imgur.com/aByt7YH.png)
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Test Prints Done (03/02)
Post by: beefcake on February 03, 2022, 04:58:55 AM
Very cool. Any plans on the Dominatrix? Was that what it was really called?
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Test Prints Done (03/02)
Post by: Cait Sidhe on February 03, 2022, 12:55:06 PM
Very cool. Any plans on the Dominatrix? Was that what it was really called?

Haha, yes it was called that. I have reference pics for it and the Heirophant ready but I think the Dominatrix will probably vary a bit from the original. For me, the original is a bit of a mess of armoured plates which I would probably simplify somewhat.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Test Prints Done (03/02)
Post by: fred on February 03, 2022, 05:49:58 PM
Those are very cool. Like the fatter malefactor - looks like it might have room for gaunts inside it. Though I’m not sure how they were ever meant to get out of it.

The epic Dominatrix is a very odd model - a kind of armoured cow with guns on its head and back. Didn’t really fit with the other big bio-titans or these smaller ones.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Test Prints Done (03/02)
Post by: Cait Sidhe on February 03, 2022, 07:39:11 PM
Those are very cool. Like the fatter malefactor - looks like it might have room for gaunts inside it. Though I’m not sure how they were ever meant to get out of it.

The epic Dominatrix is a very odd model - a kind of armoured cow with guns on its head and back. Didn’t really fit with the other big bio-titans or these smaller ones.

Cheers, also "transport sphincter" is apparently how the 'nids get in and out of the malefactor... They were located at the back of the front armour plating on the original, I have not modelled them. :D
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles - Test Prints Done (03/02)
Post by: Cait Sidhe on May 24, 2022, 08:17:08 PM
Been a while but finally got around to printing one of these bad boys at 40k scale. In transparent plastic, thatI'm trying to use up, so not the most photogenic but turned out pretty decent.

(https://i.imgur.com/RTVd1Gm.png)
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: fred on May 24, 2022, 09:01:24 PM
That is a serious beastie!
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: beefcake on May 31, 2022, 11:17:10 AM
Cool. Love a lot of the old tyranid stuff, except the warriors. I have a bunch of screamer killers. Such fun sculpts.
You've done an excellent job with these. Are they on the paint table yet?
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: Cait Sidhe on June 01, 2022, 06:44:34 PM
Cool. Love a lot of the old tyranid stuff, except the warriors. I have a bunch of screamer killers. Such fun sculpts.
You've done an excellent job with these. Are they on the paint table yet?

Well... they're on A table... where painting has occured... Still not entirely sure on a colour scheme, was originally going red and black as can be seen on the warrior and "hunter killers" but since changed my mind. Printed the Exocrine as well, removing the supports was a whole thing... Seems the transparent plastic likes to just shatter into sharp shards.

(https://i.imgur.com/jrse6SW.png?1)
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: beefcake on June 01, 2022, 10:18:21 PM
Well that sounds like delightful fun  :o
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: YPU on June 02, 2022, 12:28:29 PM
Horrible in all the right ways these sculpts.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: eilif on June 02, 2022, 09:58:24 PM
Love the look of these.
Puts me in the mind of the old armorcast models, and that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicles
Post by: Cait Sidhe on March 07, 2023, 09:10:35 PM
Well been a fair while since I've done much digital sculpting but sat down for a bit over the last week or two and made a classic Trygon... kinda. There was never a larger version of this guy outside an unproduced prototype so did my own interpretation really. The old Epic version had what looked like a little beaky mouth so I went for a sort of graboid beak with split mandibles which kind of follows the current version.

(https://i.imgur.com/4Zf6AD7.jpg)

I do have a start on a Heirophant... probably going to do a Harridan first at some point though.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicle Sculpts - Trygon Added 23/03/07
Post by: YPU on March 16, 2023, 10:29:27 PM
Great to see more of these taking shape!
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicle Sculpts - Trygon Added 23/03/07
Post by: Cait Sidhe on March 17, 2023, 10:38:29 AM
Cheers. Looking through the thread I realise I never actually posted the link to them... Well if anyone with access to a printer wants to print their own 'nid vehicles you can grab em here:

https://cults3d.com/en/users/CaitSidhe/creations

They're all scaled for 40k, though the Trygon I added a 6mm scaled one and might go back and do the same for the others. They will all need supports regardless of FDM or resin printing.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicle Sculpts - Trygon Added 23/03/07
Post by: beefcake on March 23, 2023, 05:53:32 AM
Trygon is looking very nice. That should look very impressive on the table.
Title: Re: Classic Tyranid Vehicle Sculpts - Trygon Added 23/03/07
Post by: YPU on March 23, 2023, 05:45:13 PM
I'm honestly sad that I've already printed a bunch of nid critters for epic in the modern syle, all of these would have been great!