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Title: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 18, 2009, 07:38:03 AM
Hi

I recently stumbled into the  M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" made by  Black Army
what a wonderful model!

however, I would be also interested to have it in a bigger scale for "expanded use"

so, does anyone know of a bigger scaled version?
preferably 1:35 or 1:48 (or whatever) in plastic?
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 18, 2009, 09:11:16 AM
 ;)
if you paint the flowers to scale it could be an innovative summer design...
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 18, 2009, 10:07:26 AM
well, why not


anyway is there any model apart the 1:56 one from Black Army??
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Doc Twilight on September 18, 2009, 10:52:12 AM
well, why not


anyway is there any model apart the 1:56 one from Black Army??

The only other one I'm aware of is in 20mm, unfortunately.

-Doc
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 18, 2009, 10:53:04 AM
The only other one I'm aware of is in 20mm, unfortunately.
-Doc

 :(

thx
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Doc Twilight on September 18, 2009, 08:35:44 PM
:(

thx

Sorry. I'm told there's also one in 15mm, but you're looking for "bigger" stuff.

Glad you like our model, though. I doubt it'd be available in a larger scale. It's an extremely obscure piece, and at any rate, only specialist modellers would be interested in it outside the wargaming community, which means you probably wouldn't see it in 1/35 or 1/48 except in very expensive "limited editions" or perhaps in garage kits.

The one we have is designed to scale up fine with 28mm figs.

-Doc
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 18, 2009, 10:08:31 PM
I hoped some obscure polish or czech manufacturer

your model is wonderful
and if I played SCW or anything interwar, it would certainly be an option
I need the bigger one for conversion to a "standin" for 40K
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Bako on September 19, 2009, 04:10:53 AM
Your best bet is prolly a scratch-build. I've never seen one beyond BAP.
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Ignatieff on September 19, 2009, 09:16:33 AM
Any pictures???
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Ignatieff on September 19, 2009, 09:17:30 AM
Ignore that.  Found them! o_o
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 19, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
what's BAP?

apart from a rock group in Cologne?
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Doc Twilight on September 19, 2009, 09:02:59 PM
Black Army Productions (BAP) :)

-Doc
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 19, 2009, 11:46:09 PM
what a pity, such a nice tank...
but so restricted in use....
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Bako on September 20, 2009, 01:15:50 AM
what's BAP?

apart from a rock group in Cologne?

The Doc's already blown the whistle on this one. Speaking of Cologne, there's an exchange student from there here. She's very nice. ;)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 20, 2009, 07:15:34 AM
The Doc's already blown the whistle on this one. Speaking of Cologne, there's an exchange student from there here. She's very nice. ;)

yup, we have some nice girls around here - send greetings  ;) :D

did the guys from BAP ever mention why they chose this name for their company?
it does ring some bells  ;)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Arlequín on September 20, 2009, 11:09:14 AM
what a pity, such a nice tank...
but so restricted in use....

I believe the reason why BAP chose it was because it was unlikely to be produced otherwise. The idea is to produce vehicles that are unlikely to turn up in other manufacturer's ranges... I believe they are also doing an Erhardt(?) armoured car.
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 20, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
yup, Ehrhardt
so I read

of course it makes sense to produce exclusive miniatures
indeed, the Anarchists in SCW were based in Catalonia and not in the Basque country, allthough the Basques oficially side with the republicans

I just thought...
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Arlequín on September 20, 2009, 05:48:32 PM
You've lost me... unless you think 'Black Army' relates to Anarchists in the SCW in some way? I understand it relates to several RCW factions, but black and red were (afaik) the preferred colours for Spanish Anarchists... of which there were as many varieties of Anarchists as there were Socialists. While Catalonia was the centre for 'Anarcho-Syndicalism', particularly Barcelona, both Zaragosa and Madrid had strong Anarchist movements, of what is described as 'Pure Anarchism' and there was a strong rural 'peasant-anarchism' movement in Andalucia.

The Basques were largely conservative and very religious, but the Republic was likely to grant autonomy for 'Euskadi' as opposed to the centuries of oppression and attempts to eradicate 'Basqueness' that had been the case in 'Old Spain'.   

As for Black Army Productions... I'd hazard a guess that if it does actually relate to something rather than being a cool name, there's even money on either the Hungarian army of Matthew Corvinus, or a Taiping Rebel Faction in the Civil War.

 :)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 20, 2009, 06:12:25 PM
I just speculated... ;)
yep, I read somewhere that there were some links between spanich and russian anarchists
(I remember some anarchism HP regarding Makhnovia and Catalonian anarchism as succesful examples)

and the stories during CW are rather similar
but You are right . anarchism in spain has a longer and deeper history
and it is not surprising for anarchism that there were many fractions - it is about that after all

and yep, I understand - Black Army could hint at a lot
anyway, the name is succesful, since people remeber it and speculate about origins  ;)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Arlequín on September 20, 2009, 09:24:53 PM
Nothing wrong with speculation at all, nor opinions.  :)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Baldrick on September 20, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
Lets start a pool - I'm betting that it is a reference to the Hungarian Army of Corvinus. 
(Full disclosure - I know Doc Twilight and he reeks of paprika - and not the good Spanish type) :)

I will say that the Euskadi is a very nice model and I can't wait to see it in resin.
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on September 20, 2009, 09:56:20 PM
now this is a cunning plan, Baldrick
as cunning as a slab of bacon seasoned with paprika hanging in a paprika drying shed

You mean he is Hungarian?
nothing wrong with hungarian Paprika
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Arlequín on September 21, 2009, 12:37:27 AM
I think the coat of arms might be a clue, but I'll be sporting and take the Taiping rebels for my choice (Black Flag Army).  ;)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Doc Twilight on September 21, 2009, 03:42:04 AM
Ahh. This could be interesting to see where the speculation goes;)

-Doc
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: CompanyB on October 30, 2009, 02:25:50 AM
There are actually a number of these kits in 1:35.  The problem is that you may be searching under the wrong name.  Try searching Trubia-Naval.

JVM models also make a 1:35 version of it's companion
(http://www.hobbiesguinea.com/images/JVT3502.jpg)

I'm thinking I need a couple of those Black Army  M36's.  One to build as is, and one to convert!  I seem to have plenty of guns and model parts lying around for conversions ;-)

Brent
Company B
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Doc Twilight on October 30, 2009, 08:56:30 AM
There are actually a number of these kits in 1:35.  The problem is that you may be searching under the wrong name.  Try searching Trubia-Naval.

JVM models also make a 1:35 version of it's companion
(http://www.hobbiesguinea.com/images/JVT3502.jpg)

I'm thinking I need a couple of those Black Army  M36's.  One to build as is, and one to convert!  I seem to have plenty of guns and model parts lying around for conversions ;-)


Brent
Company B

That's a hell of a find, Brent. I'm going to have to put it on the list;) Have seen it referenced, but this is the first clear illustration. (I have seen a few photos, come to think of it) Looks like what, a Hotchkiss MG in the hull?

-Doc

Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: former user on October 30, 2009, 11:32:45 AM
thank You very much for this treasure

Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: CompanyB on October 30, 2009, 03:35:20 PM
Looks like a Hotchkiss Doc...

I was going to mention.  If you need metal gun barrels, stowage bits, metal parts, etc for anything you are dreaming up.  Just give us a shout.  I seem to have bins and bins of parts for some reason.  Plus we do have the ability to turn plastic into brass, or cast into metal.

just a thought..

Brent
Company B

Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: WillieB on October 30, 2009, 04:00:36 PM
I'd love to see a 28mm version of the Landesa! Where do I sign up? ;D

And then the Verdeja? Probably not very commercial... sigh

BTW Brent: how is that Mercedes truck coming along?

Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: Mancha on October 30, 2009, 04:51:45 PM
Plus we do have the ability to turn plastic into brass, or cast into metal.

What weird alchemy is this?   ;)
Title: Re: M36 Trubia-Naval "Euskadi" in 1:35 or 1:48
Post by: CompanyB on October 31, 2009, 08:05:32 AM
"plastic to metal"

two methods:

a lost wax style casting, where-in the master is incinerated...but a brass master is created out of a one use mold.

Direct casting:  A spin mold is created from a pourable rubber that act's as a regular spin mold.  from this, a master set for another mold is created (and used when mold one is past it's use)

A third method that involves quickly casting a resin sub master than can withstand the heat and pressure of making a standard spin mold...

Also, just as easy to make the part out of metal and greenstuff to begin with...