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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Rich H on October 14, 2021, 03:29:12 PM
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Finally finished the M42 Duster for Empress Miniatures
This is the prototype so still a few minor changes needed and I'm going to try and reduce the part count a bit.
What do you think? ???
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Nice. I'm trying to work two 15mm versions
into one of my AK47 armies at the moment.
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Good looking model
Something looks slight odd with the tracks - but from looking at photos I’m not quite sure what it is - it may be there is a touch more of a curve to the arrow heads on the side of the tracks? Or perhaps these tracks are a touch wider, so the arrowhead is more visible in the above shot?
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Would be good to know what's wrong!
The tracks are pretty tiny, the detail is down to 0.3mm in places!
Pencil for scale ;)
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The real thing
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Looks the dog’s bollocks to me!
My only suggestions would be some 3 round ammo clips and the odd loose round to dress the turret. No doubt they will come with the crew for these.
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3 round clips? The ones I've got are 4...
(https://www.militariazone.com/upload/images/shopprod/29976/clip-of-4-bofors-shells_29976_pic1_size2.jpg)
Plan is to make a load of empty cases and clips too. Can easily slip in some full loose rounds too.
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Looks good to me. And from what I understand, M42s were quiet adept at deforsetation....
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Watching the vids their rate of fire isn't amazing, but I guess the loader needs to keep up! 120 RPM per gun.
That said I guess they could still chew through their stored ammo in a few short minutes!
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Four round clips it is, I stand corrected! Good to know there will be plenty of brass to paint up.
Makes me wonder if Paul is planning an equivalent for the PAVN.
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Would that be a ZSU-57-2 or 23-4?
Well I have done both the PT76 and T-55 chassis... But you'd have to ask Paul what his plans are!
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The detailed view of the tracks looks really good with all the detail seen on photos
The real thing
Looking at this photo the tracks don’t protrude beyond the hull sides. Whereas in the first couple of photos of the model they do seem to have the teeth of the tracks sticking out. This may be down to the angle of the photo.
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Ah ok, they probably weren't snug against the hull and the camera angle made it look worse!
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The top down photo shows they don’t protrude - the angled one still shows some - but it must be down to the angle - also this above and to the side angle while very common for model photos isn’t one you often see with real tanks
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They definitely don't protrude ;)
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Glad that’s settled then. You certainly don’t want a protruding duster. People might think you’re a rooster. :D
Just idle speculation. Paul is already sorted for the ZSU-23-4. The T-54 would require a major rebuild. The ZSU-57 has only four road wheels and IIRC the hull is a bit shorter. The BTR-40 with and without the twin 14.5mm would be my pick but to be frank I’d rather the ground mounted ZPU-4. That saw the most service and is probably the most efficient tool for the average ‘Brave destroyer of helicopters’.
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Yes sadly the T-55 would only save me about an hour on the ZSU hull :?
Did I mention I hate towed artillery? Especially AA guns... just so fiddly and spindly everywhere!
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Great looking model.
Perfect for Tet.
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Need to sort the crew now. ;)
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nice, adds a little bit of firepower
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Nice.
Paul is already sorted for the ZSU-23-4.
I remember a discussion (January 2018?) over the size of the Empress ZSU-23-4.
Edited after a realisation
Sorry I am talking twaddle, but thank you for not pointing out what an idiot I am.
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The thing with toys is… ‘if it looks right, it is right’. Obviously, individual mileage may vary.
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Yep - I agree, Carlos. In the games I run, if it looks right to me, it is right. When I play in other peoples' games, if it looks right to them, it is right. Other folks, of course, may develop their own opinions, should they so choose... :D
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The thing with toys is… ‘if it looks right, it is right’. Obviously, individual mileage may vary.
Couldn’t agree more...in fact I might test that shortly ;)
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I couldn't possibly comment ::)
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I remember a discussion (January 2018?) over the size of the Empress ZSU-23-4.
Edited after a realisation
Sorry I am talking twaddle, but thank you for not pointing out what an idiot I am.
ZSU23-4 SPAA was not the subject of the discussion I was thinking of, the ZSU-23-2 AA was.
Apologies all round.
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Changes made and cut up for production and ammo etc drawn - print next week
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Did they have one or two loaders? Either way, it is a busy job.
Nice.
Are those spare barrels on the track guards?
How did they get into the middle storage boxes on the track guards, the turret looks like it overhangs it?
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Frem what I've seen there must have been 2 loaders (driver and radioman?) Though the side lockers are full of ammo so they would need at least 1 or 2 more for sustained fire.
Yep, paint of barrels under the left hand lockers. I assume under sustained fire you change them out after a few hundred(?) Rounds and let them cool
The centre lockers are Cresent shaped and miss the turret ring.