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Title: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: Jack Hooligan on October 22, 2021, 02:33:32 PM
I know many have been looking for Lion Rampant-family rules to use for Japanese armies, but I thought it was generally agreed upon to use Pikeman's Lament.

University of Edinburgh getting busy in the wargame field. ha!

(Should this be mentioned in the Adventures In The Far East forum as well? is that double posting?)
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: fred on October 22, 2021, 05:00:10 PM
Interesting - and a much after period than is typically gamed, which is why I suspect TMWBK is used as the base game

Typically Pikeman’s Lament is being used for Sengoku era battles - which makes sense as they are from the same period.
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 22, 2021, 07:56:06 PM
Ahh...sh*t......well there's no excuse now is there!  lol

Seriously though I am looking forward to this coming out. TMWWBK is the perfect set to explore this conflict - a clash of the ancient and the modern seasoned with a strong feeling of lost cause.

What's not to like!
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: commissarmoody on October 26, 2021, 09:25:30 AM
Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: AdmiralAndy on October 26, 2021, 09:56:50 AM
Interesting - and a much after period than is typically gamed, which is why I suspect TMWBK is used as the base game

Typically Pikeman’s Lament is being used for Sengoku era battles - which makes sense as they are from the same period.

Pikemans Lament is indeed to date the goto for those gaming Samurai with the Rampant stable of rules. Especially since there are army lists provided and a follow up expanding article was published in an issue of Wargames Soldiers Strategy.

What I would point out that is maybe being missed about why TMWWBKs being used is that was written solely by Mr Mersey, Pikemans was co-authored with Michael Leck who is not employed or associated with Edinburgh Universaty at present.

My view is that it fits better in the fortcoming edition then roll with it, or adapt the ideas to Pikemans. There close enough core system that switching up or using the ideas shouldn't really cause an either or situation.
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: jon_1066 on October 26, 2021, 11:37:25 AM
I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: traveller on October 26, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

Spot on  ;)

This should be a boost for:

http://bacninhminiatures.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-last-samurai-from-fiction-to-reality.html?m=1
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: fred on October 26, 2021, 12:01:07 PM
I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

Exactly and much more clearly put than what I wrote a few posts above.

The problem is that referring to anything as ‘Samurai xxx’ is problematic as it can cover 100s of years.
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: Matakakea on October 26, 2021, 02:01:44 PM
Time to find those heads I bought from Raukrota and start converting some artillery for this.
Title: Re: TMWWBK - Samurai Expansion Announced
Post by: AdmiralAndy on October 26, 2021, 02:49:09 PM
I would have thought it more likely that it is simply that the Satsuma Rebellion is in the timescale of TMWWBK (later 19th Century) rather than the 16th-17th century of Pikeman's Lament which fits the timescale of the Sengoku period.

That's a good point, I'd kinda missed the date focuing on the word Samurai, but TMWWBKs would be more fitting for a Cruise Samurai type set up than a Chamberlain Pikemans Shogun.

Tricksy historical dating.