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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: Easy E on November 09, 2021, 06:06:22 PM
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For those interested, here is an interview about Castles in the Sky coming from Osprey next year in the Wargame Series on the Man Battlestations Podcast.
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You can listen in here:
http://www.manbattlestations.com/forum/index.php?topic=3080.0
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If these rules workout I could use my old Leviathan ‘ships’ with them! I really liked the models in those games I picked up two full games for $40 in total, great value for the vessels themselves...
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Interesting, I have a pile of Crimson Skies ‘planes waiting forlornly :)
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many thanks for the tip-off and the link!
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Will there be a range (or even a suggested range) connected to this? The aeronef aesthetic I've always found very uninspired so I'm hoping there are more steampunky/Laputa: Castle in the Sky style stuff out there that I've missed.
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The game is designed to be scale and model agnostic so you can use any models you can find.
The models in the book are all made and photographed from/by Brigade's Aeronef range. However, you can also use Leviathan from Catalyst Game Labs, Spartan Dystopian Wars, GHQ's range of real warships on flying stands, etc.
I have seen someone use 3D printed ships from the Last Exile anime as well. 3D printing maybe the way to go for more Luputa style designs.
When I came up with the title, it was intended to be a riff on Robert K. Massie's book Castles of Steel not a riff on Studio Ghibli's movie. D'oh!
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You're sunk there I think. I assumed it was a conscious reference!
(I know if I made an airships rule it'd be what I'd have used - until now anyway).
Thanks for those, I'll give the other companies a look.
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Could someone put up a link to the podcast itself?
I'm missing some key step as I keep getting just pages from the MBS forum.
Edit,2022/01/12 The link in the MBS post merely refers back to itself, not to the podcast, but I was able to find a working feed in something called 'libsyn'', so request withdrawn.
Having Leviathans, Imperial Skies, and several titles from the Aeronef line, I would love a compare and contrast, even if by allusion.
While mentioning ships, I'd like to mention some, is the phrase cheep-and-cheerful(?), other ideas. Irregular's Heirs of Manacus and Uranus and Panzerschiffe's Predreadnoughts on flight stands for the budget minded.
Okay, too cheap for my own good still cuts up plastic spoon handles. ;)
Doug
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While mentioning ships, I'd like to mention some, is the phrase cheep-and-cheerful(?), other ideas. Irregular's Heirs of Manacus and Uranus and Panzerschiffe's Predreadnoughts on flight stands for the budget minded.
Okay, too cheap for my own good still cuts up plastic spoon handles. ;)
Folks with a more lenient budget might also find Brigade models' gigantic range of aeronefs handy, many of which are pretty inexpensive anyway.
The Irregular site is a bear to navigate blind and even harder to link to properly, their VSF stuff is hidden under the 6mm scale listings, and then further buried way, way down at the bottom of the page that opens when you click on "scifi & space ships" after scrolling down past the slew of 6mm historicals. I'm reminded of an old game store in Buffalo that had no exterior signage and could only be entered by climbing down some stairs in the back room of a lumber sales warehouse. Probably quite a few Prohibition Era speakeasies that were easier to find.
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Look interesting, another set of rules to look forward too.
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The Irregular site is a bear to navigate blind and even harder to link to properly, their VSF stuff is hidden under the 6mm scale listings, and then further buried way, way down at the bottom of the page that opens when you click on "scifi & space ships" after scrolling down past the slew of 6mm historicals. I'm reminded of an old game store in Buffalo that had no exterior signage and could only be entered by climbing down some stairs in the back room of a lumber sales warehouse. Probably quite a few Prohibition Era speakeasies that were easier to find.
Quite right! However, I may have it a BIT sorted: https://irregularminiatures.co.uk/6mmRanges/6mmSciFi.htm#FLYING (https://irregularminiatures.co.uk/6mmRanges/6mmSciFi.htm#FLYING)
Actually, new to my notice, but maybe just easy to miss, AFTER you get to the 6mm page, near the top is a group image and a tiny set of mid-page links that get you there.
Doug
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I just got word from Osprey that they are authorizing this book going to 80 pages instead of the usual 64 pages!
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That's good 👍🏻
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Great news about the expansion. This is at the top of new games to try in 2022 list. Even used the Christmas break to pull out and start organising my ex-Aeronef lead-pile in anticipation.
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Quite right! However, I may have it a BIT sorted: https://irregularminiatures.co.uk/6mmRanges/6mmSciFi.htm#FLYING (https://irregularminiatures.co.uk/6mmRanges/6mmSciFi.htm#FLYING)
Actually, new to my notice, but maybe just easy to miss, AFTER you get to the 6mm page, near the top is a group image and a tiny set of mid-page links that get you there.
Doug
Those ships look very tasty!
Thanks to the added pages, we were able to add in bigger photos from Brigade, more artwork, and the Ottoman Fleet is back in the lists! Huzzah!
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That's great news, Eric! More is always better. However, will the increase in page count cause any delay to the book's release?
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I do not think so, because we cut so much stuff to get to 64 pages in the first place! lol
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Out of curiosity, how do the Irregular Miniatures Flying Dreadnoughts, scale up against Brigades Aeronefs??
Cheers
Jeff
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*blush*
I'm embarrassed that, years ago, after having made a small order for some space ships with a bit of sticker shock on cross-briny post, I've not reordered, and not seen either Heirs of Manacus or Uranus 'in the flesh.'
Given the large number of half brother Brits on the channel, that shock is a great deal less for them.
Looking at the images and the flight stands, I will guess they are a bit smaller than I first thought, though rectal-cranial insertion may certainly be involved.
Doug
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This is a concern, “we cut so much stuff to get to 64 pages in the first place”...so how much of what you cut out can you get back in? What percentage of your actual rules will we get due simply to page limits? Can they cut some of the full page pictures out (that feature prominently in these releases) to ensure everything gets back in. Also will a usable QRS be included?
Thanks!
😊
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Everything not in the book is going on the website for free. That includes, but is not limited too....
1. Rules for Ground Defenses
2. Making Forces for Regional Powers (Such as Chile, China, etc.)
3. A ship class or two from each Great Power (Such as additional Battleship, cruiser, or escort classes)
4. My designer's notes
With this we probably could have filled another 10- 15 Osprey pages of material.
The core of the game is all there, as there are still rules for bombardments, bombing runs, and other air-to-ground actions. The campaign rules even made it back in with the extra space. The fleet lists for 9 or so Great Powers (Britain, France, German, Austro-Hungary, Russia, Italy, Ottomans, US, and Japan), and the 10 or so scenarios take up a lot of space!
The full page art is still in, because it is all unique to this book. No reprints from elsewhere! Also, the pictures of Brigade models are all new images taken just for this book too! Thanks to Osprey and Brigade for all this new content!
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Thanks Easy E, good and bad news. Good News we get all your rules, Bad News 80 pages is in the rule book and 15 pages is online, pretty weird and disappointing.
Still looking forward to seeing these rules I have a lot of Leviathan ships ready to use.
BTW will there be a QRS in the book or on the website?
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Next year is here; where's the book?!?!?!
*ahem*
Eric, has an estimate of release, even to quarter, been shared with you?
Need to know as to when to start pestering our manager to watch the distributors.
Doug
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Release is in June or July.
The QRS has not been created yet, but will eventually go on the Website as well.
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Thanks!
Knowing how such can slip on occasion, I promise not to yell further. ;)
However, definitely too early to depend on Scott's memory yet. lol
Doug
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Would that be the Osprey website??
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Yes, for clarity this content will go on the Osprey website.
However, I will also probably post it on my blog as well.
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Cheers appreciate that 👍🏻