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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Curassier on November 28, 2021, 11:30:31 AM
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Have tried some of the more "sophisticated" solvents used in plastic modelling and made a bit of a mess.
What do you guys recommend for assembling Perry plastic miniatures ? Many thanks.
JM
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Revell Contacta Professional (with the needle applicator) works just fine
https://www.revell.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/39604.jpg (https://www.revell.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/39604.jpg)
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+1 on Revell Contacta. It also has gap filling properties so aids in disguising joints. Solvents like EVA and Tamiya extra thin will work, but are not the best for this application. Don’t use superglue, it doesn’t produce anywhere near a strong enough bond.
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Revell Contacta Professional (with the needle applicator) works just fine
https://www.revell.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/39604.jpg (https://www.revell.de/out/pictures/master/product/1/39604.jpg)
+1 Have used Revell with great results. Tamiya Extra thin to hide sprue/flashing/mold residue marks after a scrape with citadel's scraping tool. But Revell would also work for that to an extent.
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I also have used Revell Contacta with great results. Also during lockdown when my Contacta ran out I found Humbrol Precision and standard Humbrol Polystyrene Cement just as good though the latter is a bit more difficult to use on small parts but does have excellent gap filling properties.
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Any polysteyrene cement is fine. Or "Airfix glue" as we used to call it.
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I tend to use Tamiya plastic cement, mainly as it comes in a handy bottle with a brush. So much easier to use than the old school airfix glue in a tube.
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Mine of information.
Many thanks all !
JM
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Humbrol liquid poly with the jar and brush for me...never had any problem with it and used it on Perry and Wargames Atlantic Afghans and some GW bits without any issues this weekend.
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Revell Contacta. I’ve put together getting on for 1000 assorted 28mm plastics, mainly Perry, and have used the Revell product all the way. The needle dispenser is a winner. And the Revell liquid poly cement is also an ace smoother away of mould lines and stray plastic crumbs, and concealer of joins. Highly recommended.
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Revell Contacta. I’ve put together getting on for 1000 assorted 28mm plastics, mainly Perry, and have used the Revell product all the way. The needle dispenser is a winner. And the Revell liquid poly cement is also an ace smoother away of mould lines and stray plastic crumbs, and concealer of joins. Highly recommended.
+1 for Revell Contacta
I got put onto this a year or so ago by a friend and its a game changer. As you say the needle dispenser is the difference, gives you loads of precision and the fact you can clear a blockage in seconds with a lighter or match by warming the needle is fantastic.
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I use Mr. Cement Deluxe. Any good hobby shop/model shop will have it. I used Revel for several years and wasn't happy with it. (https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.c2ea6c538c6f19afea277d57200f2c1b?rik=XW0hy7ogxOXm2A&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
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Testors has always served me well.
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Hum roll Poly Cement in the tube. ‘Wasted’ years of application has brought about a certain adroitness of application :-)
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What is very clear from this thread is that while brand and applicator style varies everyone is using plastic cement for plastic kits. And this is a good thing it gives a much better bond than super glue.
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What is very clear from this thread is that while brand and applicator style varies everyone is using plastic cement for plastic kits. And this is a good thing it gives a much better bond than super glue.
Polystyrene cement for polystyrene kits….. I think I see the connection :D
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I still do most of my plastics with superglue. Hate the smell of plastic cement and not to fussed about bond strength, but happy to accept that I'm an odd duck in this.
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I still do most of my plastics with superglue. Hate the smell of plastic cement and not to fussed about bond strength, but happy to accept that I'm an odd duck in this.
Ditto
:)
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Polystyrene cement (I use the Humbrol liquid) welds the parts together. Much stronger than superglue, which smells much worse than polystyrene cement IMO.
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A big fan of Faller professional polystyrene cement.
Cheers
Matt
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For those who weren't aware and using the Rubicon kits, they aren't actually polystyrene, they are ABS and so the standard polystyrene cements won't work well. You have to use a proper ABS glue like 'Plastic Magic'.
I spent ages wondering why bits of my Rubicon kits would actually fall off after being glued.
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In my experience, Rubicon kits go together exactly the same with Humbrol liquid Poly. If yours are falling to bits S...
you're not bunging enough on!
;D
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For those who weren't aware and using the Rubicon kits, they aren't actually polystyrene, they are ABS and so the standard polystyrene cements won't work well. You have to use a proper ABS glue like 'Plastic Magic'.
I spent ages wondering why bits of my Rubicon kits would actually fall off after being glued.
OP was specific that his question was about Perry Plastics. That aside I am not sure why this is happening to you. The Rubicon kits I have built went together perfectly well with the Humbrol polystyrene cement from the tube. Maybe it depends on how old your glue is? Perhaps newer glues have a different formula to suit both polystyrene and ABS?
From Humbrol/Airfix Website
Humbrol Poly Cement
Usage - A solvent-based cement suitable for plastic model kits only.
Substrate - Common plastics used to manufacture model kits including polystyrene and ABS. The product works by melting the plastic on application and ‘welding’ two glued pieces of plastic together to form a strong bond.
Application - Directly onto plastic model kits. A cocktail stick can be useful to apply sparingly to small areas or fine details.
Drying Time - Surface dry in 10-20 minutes. Fully dry in 1 hour.
How to Clean - Can be removed if not fully dry by re-dissolving with Humbrol Liquid Poly or Precision Poly. Product is permanent once dry.
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If you are still squeezing it from a tube you are creating a bond of sorts. If you are relying on it chemically welding the parts together, then Tamiya, or the old Humbrol liquid will not work, nor will Revell Contacta. It will go together, the parts will apparently stick, but it will have nothing like the strength from using ABS glue.
This shouldn't be controversial or up for debate. It's chemistry.
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This shouldn't be controversial or up for debate.
As I said - OP asked about Perry miniatures which, as far as I am aware, are polystyrene and not ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene) models. So I was not being controversial or debating. Issues with gluing ABS are irrelevant in this thread until or if Perry make their figures in ABS. It is, however, relevant to making ABS models.
Maybe you could start another helpful thread to reach those like me who did not know that Rubicon kits were ABS and who may be encountering the same issues that you have experienced?
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The quote from the Humbrol website says the liquid cement works on polystyrene and ABS. Which also seems to be the experience of some on here.