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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Digits on December 10, 2021, 11:29:52 AM
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So ordered Winston Churchill, looking to take the fight to the Germans though the formation of Commando units and other means of “ungentlemanly warfare”.
I’ve always been fascinated by small action raids and upon seeing that Grey for now games are going to release 02 Hundred Hours, hopefully at some point next year I have decided to capture a few projects under this heading.
“02 Hundred Hours is a forthcoming skirmish wargame focusing on night-time raids in World War II.
Field an elite force of Commandos, SAS, Paratroopers and Rangers to infiltrate the enemy lines under cover of darkness.
Or play as the defenders, carefully setting patrol routes so your sentries can spot raiders in the shadows, utilise guard dogs, officers or even the dreaded Gestapo.
Inspired by classic war movies as well as historical events, 02 Hundred Hours is a fast paced game with roughly 10-20 models on either side. The game’s Alert system makes stealth a core part of the action – spotting your enemy in the darkness is key to victory!“
I have already started collecting a few bits with exactly this in mind, specifically the fantastic Château from Total Battle Miniatures. Ideal for an officer snatch or assassination plot!
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But I want to separate my WW2 regular forces from the more clandestine ones and start putting together a series of mini projects to be able to play out small unit actions over interesting objectives.
With that in mind, I also want to put together a few industrial type facilities for raids in say Norway, guard towers, defensive positions, search lights, fish oil factory etc.
I also hopefully have a U Boat coming from Empress (courtesy of Santa) with a view to making a small representation of a U Boat pen and quayside. Will feature a loading crane, torpedoes on trailers etc.
I will be buying a box of Warlord Plastic commandos and looking for suitable German guards (of which I have only a few minis already).
Lots of opportunities for introducing agents, other special forces, resistance and other types, with already some lovely minis in metal from the likes of Artizan to
Collect too.
Let’s hope the rules are both soon available, and more importantly, GOOD!
I have the first new purchase for this, so time to start doing a bit of painting!
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This sounds good, right up my street! Sounds like a good set of rules.
I like your ideas, I have a U-Boat, this might inspire me to actually paint it!
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Looking forward to seeing where you go with this.
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Cheers fellas.
Yes, trying to keep it “doable”, I kind of like this simple pen, Dora 1 in Trondheim…..should be easy enough to do something like this…or at least the front face.
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Capture a radio set, assassinate a prominent sub commander, steal torpedo blue prints or simply blow up as many U- boats as possible….lots of reasons to raid a sub pen I’m sure!
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1)Blow up the lock gates.
2)Steal the new guidance system (you'll need a plan of the
Sub's interior layout) for the interior action.
3)Tamper with the torpedoes, so they'll blow up when launched.
4)Kidnap the Chief Designer/Engineer.
5)Place fake information/graffiti framing the local collaborator
as a 'member of the Resistance'
6)Fit a guidance beacon so that the RAF can accurately hit the pen.
7)Stop the Nazis keeping the Ark of the Covenant.
8)'Botch' the raid & 'accidentally' leave behind someone (dead)
who has information about the Invasion/D-Day being Norway.
(See the film, 'The Man Who Never Was')
9)Escort a specialist Navy team onto a U-Boat...& steal it!
10) D-Day is tomorrow, so create as much mayhem as possible
after 2.00 hours. To drag resources away from the beaches.
Just a few ideas to be going on with. Let me know if/when you
you want more. :D
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You and I need to sit down for a few hours and build a lengthy list of possible scenarios mate! I love your imagination!
So I’ve been looking at images of pens. The channels within seem to vary but holding maybe three boats might prove a little big for my liking so I will make it just wide enough for two. I think I’m just going to represent a couple of channels too otherwise it would be too big. I think I will make it so it’s just maybe 8/10 inches deep and park a couple of sub front sections within to look like it’s partially full.
I’m going to sketch up a plan for it, but this image shows me some ideas for the visible internals.
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Not U boat pens, but the new "Scottish" range of buildings by Warbases I immediately saw would be useful for Norway.
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I think I’m just going to represent a couple of channels too otherwise it would be too big. I think I will make it so it’s just maybe 8/10 inches deep and park a couple of sub front sections within to look like it’s partially full.
Disappointing. So you are not going to follow my suggestion and build Marineville from Stingray then? lol
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Errrr….no.
Am I the only one but I always thought Troy Tempest reminded me of Janes Garner?
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Errrr….no.
Am I the only one but I always thought Troy Tempest reminded me of Janes Garner?
Even the way he spoke. Uncanny resemblance. Always thought Phones had a low IQ and should never have been in charge of the radio
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Ok, digressing a little, but I now feel equally stupid for not knowing and strangely vindicated fir having recognised it!
From Wiki
“The process of designing and making the puppets took four months and each of the main characters was sculpted in duplicate to allow episodes to be filmed in pairs. Some of the main characters were modelled on real-life actors; for example, Troy Tempest drew heavily on the looks of James Garner. Gerry Anderson said that he did not explicitly instruct the sculptors to base Troy on this actor; instead, he named Garner simply to help them visualise the character, as he could see that they were struggling with his original brief (which merely called for Troy to be square-jawed and heroic-looking). Titan was based on a young Laurence Olivier, and Surface Agent X-2-Zero on either Claude Rains or Peter Lorre. Atlanta Shore has been likened to Lois Maxwell (who voiced the character), while Marina has drawn comparisons to both Ursula Andress and Brigitte Bardot.”
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Every time I see Commandos in kayaks, I think of the late David Lodge in an episode of Q8 turning from Spike Milligan to the camera, breaking the fourth wall by addressing the audience with “I was in Cockleshell Heroes”. Indeed he actually was but then so was Anthony Newley. It’s not quite up there with Spike as a Dalek but remains memorable for some odd reason.
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I used to live in Stockport. They put up a memorial to one of the Cockleshell Heroes, local boy James Conway, who was in Cuttlefish.
Not my picture….but I came across it by accident one day. Was nice to see the recognition.
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Sounds interesting and think Wargames Atlantic is working on official miniatures if I recall correctly.
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I believe so, but I’m sorry to say, I’m really not struck on Wargames Atlantic miniatures. They really don’t in my mind work very well. It’s hard to put in words but there is a lack of clutter which is one thing, but they just look….goofy. Too many long arms away from the body….if you look at pictures of real people, weapons are typically held close in to the body, but theirs just…don’t.
I used to think nothing of butchering plastic minis to get a pose I liked…mainly when collecting GW imperial guard…..but these days I prefer metal minis truth be told, then fill in with plastics where I have to. Unfortunately, there aren’t too many Commandos in metal in the woollen caps I like, so will probably opt for Warlord but even their British plastics don’t look exactly great….just better than WA I think. Saying that, I’ve ordered a few metals from Black Tree designs….let’s see what they are like first…
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Would love to get a better look at those miniatures in the first post especially the one holding the pistol in both hands. What make and scale is he?
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Here’s a link. Warlord Miniatures 28mm
https://www.warlordgames.com/hobby-commando-amphibious-raiders/
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Commandos in caps comforters? Hard to go past the Wargames Foundry versions.
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/world-war-two
They also do German sentries.
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Yup, but much as I like them….they are small compared with my other minis.
For now as said, I’ve ordered a few Black Tree, including silenced stens and snipers. I don’t have any Black Tree minis…I’m hoping they are a little taller than Foundry.
Anyway, enough talk on minis….plenty of time to get them assembled and painted. I need to start concentrating on scenery and objectives.
For the pen, I’m tempted to simply make the structure from timber. How I then dress it, I can worry about,afterwards. Going to start sketching…..
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They should fit. I bought a few BTD figures years ago when there was a local stockist and they fitted well with Copplestone, Artizan etc.
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The Black Tree Commandos are good....no need to worry on that score.
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Apart from how long it will take for them to arrive it seems….
Christmas present to get us started, Empress U-boat.
I love the model, though I suspect the mould has seen better days! Not sure my green stuff abilities are up to the job but it is in need of a lot of gap filling and making up, especially where the conning tower meets the hull or the two spec track sections meet. I will however give it a go and I’m sure it will look just fine for what I have in mind….
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Used up a bit of gs…….now to let it cure and I can sand it down.
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I'm sure it will be worth the effort! I'm looking forward to seeing it finished!
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Cheers…..tbh, this is simply a piece of scenery so I’m not looking for perfection. The gaps are sanded, and not looking too bad. Once proper paint is applied they won’t bother me.
Simple grey primer added and it’s starting to look like a boat! It needs the rest of the metalwork dressing then I will spray it black first then use brushes as I don’t have an air gun room.
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Looking great!
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Great stuff mate! That U-Boat in particular is excellent.
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all you need now is a Doug McClure miniature and some plastic dinosaurs...
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I’d forgotten about the land that time forgot! Great idea for more use from it mate!
Plastic dinos I can do!
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I’d forgotten about the land that time forgot! Great idea for more use from it mate!
Plastic dinos I can do!
Oh that looks great! Nice jungle mate... and don't forget the appalling sequel.. The People that Time Forgot.
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The sub looks good so far. Any chance it'll stand in for a Brit sub (you might have to squint when you look at it, though...)? They made great taxis for commandoes...
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Nah, what you need is a seaplane and a mad Irish matelot in the form of Peter O’Toole. You can reuse all the jungle terrain as a bonus.
Nice looking sub btw. Can’t wait to see the final paint job.
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Murphy’s War? Great movie!
So, luckily my grimy paint style seems to work for these villains!
Cockleshell Heroes.
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Great little canoes, they look so cute. Any sign of the Black Tree package yet?
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:( Not yet!
Just noticed Butlers Printed Models now have a 28mm v1 doodlebug.
I may have to get one and a Charlie Foxtrot launcher as this could make another cool target….
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Nice boats. The black-clad chaps lurking about look good too!
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Yes they are dark…but actually green with black patterning. I tried to copy the two piece waterproof they wore from the Osprey plates. Sewn in boots / waders.
But yes, they should look dark as they were doing their utmost to avoid detection on their trip up river. Those that didn’t drown or get captured and shot, were none the less spotted by fishermen and farmers when overnighting and laying up. Still, they did get some bread out of it!
Fascinating read, I would advise it if you haven’t already. These men were TRUE heroes!
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So musing with ideas for my sub pen. A bit worried there is too much water mind but should be fun me thinks. I will widen the depth of the pens giving more of the surface dockyard probably.
A couple of moored subs, with two parked in the pen. Dock crane, torpedos on trolleys, a pair of sarrisa barrack huts and a few utility buildings. Perhaps a flack nest or two.
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Great work, they look the part and those kayaks are particularly cool.
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What size table is that to fit on Digits?
If you want to fill up that empty expanse of sea in that corner you could have a string of large buoys (big enough to hide behind) or perhaps a moored barge or a small weather ship or patrol boat with searchlight;
or even the edge of a wall like you get enclosing an outer harbour (I don't know the proper name for this) which you could put a couple of sentries on.
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Cheers. Yes I was thinking a few flat barges….actually an AA barge would be cool…..yup.
I have adjusted it (not to scale btw but will fit a 4 x 6 board) to give more dock surface area and I want to be able to play a little inside the pen, this will look better. Plus I will have space on the pen roof for more AA!
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Just ordered the last subs to make this work.
Next month, pennies allowing, I will start getting the dock built.
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Barrage miniatures do these barges….ideal for fighting over.
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I would bring the pens down to be in line with the moored submarines extend the dockside area and have a more in the other side with flak emplacements.
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You are right….I need to widen the dockside a bit yet. I’m toying with having a few relief buildings on that edge too to give it some structure. I just need to be careful not to turn it into a model railway ya…….now I need to put rail track along the dock! Bugger!
I will make final adjustment once I’ve assembled the subs as they are the dominant feature. But I’m warming to the idea of the barges on the water….
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Anyscale models has some good readymade harbour stuff and boaty stuff very cheap. Mention my name he might throw something in. Or he might charge you double I dunno lol
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I’ll get you to ring him I think! Lol
For a Flack barge…I may have to scratch something as I want it to look like this?
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Also Barrage minis do a German Hafenschutzboot ( harbour defence boat) so I will need one of these…….could be a good entry way for sneaky commandos….
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Anyway, dock area widened makes more sense and rail line added.
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I like the boat but the twin hull flak barge looks suspiciously modern to me. When I was a diver 30 years ago I dived off a twin hull dive platform very similar to this! The Dive School at Exmouth had converted it from some old thing.
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Maybe this is a clean image….but there are plenty of examples on line mostly showing 88’s on board mind.
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There’s a chap in New Zealand who does a nice MDF harbour defence boat as well as a slew of suitable dockside buildings. Search through older threads.
At the risk of making it all too big, it would be tempting to make the U-boat pens a playable area and provide a rationale for using commandos. Plenty of photos available. I’d also go with the idea of some flak, atop the pens.
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I will look out for it thank you.
Jamie mentioned possibly leaving the roof loose so we could play inside the pen and I’m tempted. The issue is simply this.
The sub I have is two and a half feet long. Thanks to Paul (Empress), I will shortly have a printed prototype of a larger mid war design sub that never came into production for Empress which looking at the pics he sent me, looks to be just over three feet in length.
There are also parts to make a sizeable chunk of a third sub, maybe back to include the tower.
I have to restrict the depth of the pen so that it isn’t too wieldy and hard to store but also to a depth that would just cover the front section of the sub. Also I can only realistically represent one bay in the pen, admittedly wide enough for two subs, but it wouldn’t afford much opportunity to move left and right through the pen if you get my drift. For gaming purposes, I may well make an access door / corridor in the side wall of the pen ( roughly in line with the railway line buffer).
I envisage most of the action however to be played over the dockyard area, which I will cover with stock piles of barrels, packing crates, vehicles ( trucks) and buildings.
I’m really looking at the prospect of making a flak barge too, for interest sake most likely.
Once my next subs arrive, I will get a much better idea of how it will shape up, plus I can then get them painted to gain impetus.
I already have a list of bits to buy, including a number of Sarrissa barracks, boats, cranes, torpedos etc….so it will take a little time to complete me thinks.
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Paul’s sub parts have arrived (cheers fella) and a quick look suggests enough parts to make two subs! I’ll be honest…I’ve no idea what subs they represent yet, so I may have popped the wrong bits together…or they may not even make up real subs….but no problem…they will still look great for my purposes! They sit a bit lower in the water than the proper one and are narrower (by design?) but they will fit in just right.
The sub in the middle will sit alongside the Empress boat in the open water with the front section of the back boat (including the large tower) sitting inside the pen.
Will need to clean these up a little when I can get outside, mount them on plastic art and fill the gaps with a little gs….but they are great. Paul also popped in a couple of the metal part kits from the commercial sub so I have a deck gun for each along with net cutters, periscope etc…
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The flak boat was built on a Siebel ferry. Not sure if you can pick up a model one? This guy has a 3D printed one in 1:72
https://www.therailroadconnection.com/products/product_ad81147d-367b-a3fa-48af-0bcfc9422244 (https://www.therailroadconnection.com/products/product_ad81147d-367b-a3fa-48af-0bcfc9422244)
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Thanks…shames it’s in the US and 1/72nd though. I may do something a little simpler anyway as this may take up too much space. Going to concentrate on the docks and pen first then see what will fit and what is achievable.
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I suspect it would be easier just going with a Vorpostenboot. Any old trawler model, armed as you see fit.
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Great idea, subs are lovely :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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I think there's a Flak ferry available from WoW as an STL file, if you have access to a printer.
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Thanks…shames it’s in the US and 1/72nd though. I may do something a little simpler anyway as this may take up too much space. Going to concentrate on the docks and pen first then see what will fit and what is achievable.
At 1:56 it would be about half a meter long.
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I think the Hafenschutzboot will fit the purpose...you only need something armed with machine guns and a searchlight to raise the alarm basically...not something armed with enough flak cannon to kill all your Commandos in 10 seconds. ;)
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You are quite possibly right fella! lol
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Quick Ebay search of 1/50 boats.
Will come up with this. They come in around £12 .
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Be warned, these kits are not for the faint-hearted. A thousand pieces, vague or incomplete instructions and you have to shape and mould the individual planks for the Hull. They will also be quite flimsy if cut to waterline.
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Nice looking boat…but yes…I’m faint hearted! Lol
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To be honest I would be looking for a toy tugboat or similar for conversion.
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Maybe follow this idea if access to a printer?
https://www.wargaming3d.com/2019/06/16/3d-printing-a-1-56-wwii-kriegsfischkutter-from-a-1-300-source-file/ (https://www.wargaming3d.com/2019/06/16/3d-printing-a-1-56-wwii-kriegsfischkutter-from-a-1-300-source-file/)
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Absolutely a doddle. lol
All you need is Baby wipes ,super glue,and baking soda.
The mistake you've all made is your building a whole boat first. There no need to plank the entire Hull.
You just put the keel and ribs together and deck as par kit.
Then plank from the water line level you want .All you do is turn thing upside down so the deck is on a level surface. Then mark the height / depth of the water line on the ribs and keel.by drawing all the way around the thing. Plank from that point up ( probably four planks.) Them use the old baking soda and super glue trick on the inside of the planks where the attach to the ribs all the way up to the underside of the deck. Then you simply cut away the unplanked section of ribs and keel. A little light sanding and it's ready to add the superstructure and furnishings.
(Failing that it's a very simple cereal packet build ;))
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I bow to the master... I won't try to emulate him. :D
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Quick Ebay search of 1/50 boats.
Will come up with this. They come in around £12 .
I just got one of these the other day, going by the doors I would say that they are more like 1:72nd on the instructions (& I mean that in the loosest sense lol ) it says 1:50 :o
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So, good weather is coming along with the soon to be released 02 Hundred hours me thinks so it’s time to get painting a few minis. No doubt there will be plastic guards coming out with the game, but I wanted to jump the gun a little and paint the few guards I already have.
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Along with a few generals and perhaps would be assassin / bomber?
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I also did a quick test mini for my Commandos.
I stress here that smoking is definitely bad for your health!
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Now to paint a few commandos….
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Very nice! I Like the glow on the guy lighting his cigarette...
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Very nice! I Like the glow on the guy lighting his cigarette...
Yeah, I need to echo that. Great touch!
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Cheers fellas.
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Nice work
Who makes the commando?
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Nice work
Who makes the commando?
I think he’s from Black Tree
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Yup Black Tree….cheers
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Those are looking great. I'm also looking forward to the new rule set and spent some time over the weekend playing about with a sprue of Warlord Games Commando's.
Steve
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That was an option but I chose to go metals. There was no need for large numbers so any good metal range would give me enough unique poses and Black Tree seemed to me the most appealing.
However, the beauty of plastics is the ability to creat whatever posing you like …..go for it!
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Black Tree Design Commandos….raiding party.
I will do a few more to give me options but pretty much chosen the best minis of the range.
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Nice paint job.
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They came out great! I like the Black Tree figures.
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Lovely job there. Well done!
After reading about 02 Hundred Hours in the April WI, I may have to give them a spin...I already have a bunch of US airborne and British paras painted up, as well as plenty of Germans.
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You may be interested in joining their Facebook group then fella. You can download the play test rules to get a feel for them.
I understand they are looking to take pre orders late Spring. They just posted up the full Wargames Atlantic German Guards set on preview too.
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Fantastic thread. Your commandos look fantastic.
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You may be interested in joining their Facebook group then fella. You can download the play test rules to get a feel for them.
I have had a chance to look through the test rules they are using (v4). You need special dice (using variable symbols and colours not numbers), special tokens and unique card sets just to play a game. They seem to have done everything possible to ensure that you have to buy a lot of "add ons" or pay through the nose for a full starter set. No chance of buying a pdf of the rules and getting to use the collection of materials you already have.
Very easy pass this one, Black Ops already does all this very well.
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0200:Hrs is now up for pre order!
Just ordered my bundle, should get it sometime in July…
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Ordered myself the starter set for now. Been reading through the rules and I’m looking forward to playing a game.
Steve
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So, in preparation to start building the dockside / sub pen, I have been buying a few bits….blue foam boards to bulk up the dockside areas and these packs of canal piling / dockside quayside detailing to edge them. Enough for two and a half meters of it anyway. Reasonably priced and will hopefully paint up nicely I hope.
I could do with designing and casting maybe, some quayside protection buoys and maybe finding a source of scale tyres to dangle in a few places.
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I also found a company in Australia that make a handy Kriegs Kutta so may have to order myself one. It maybe the company Carlos was thinking about?
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Once I’ve figured out how to successfully cut the foam, I will start assembling the dockside….
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If you are UK based, can recommend Anyscale Models for tyres, dockside fittings etc...
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Thanks for the tip!
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Oooh look at that nice little boat... ;D
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“ I also found a company in Australia that make a handy Kriegs Kutta so may have to order myself one. It maybe the company Carlos was thinking about?”
Actually I was thinking of one by Titan Terrain. They’re in NZ and produce models, including dockside buildings in MDF. The owner is a member here.
https://www.titanterrain.nz/category/ww2-terrain-28mm
The model you have there is a 3D print produced by OTP in Western Oz. I have a number of their buildings and the quality is good. It might save you a quid or two in postage to source a local printer as these are just licensed prints of the Jens Najewitz STL files, which you can buy direct, if you have a printer. Pretty sure there are local companies in Europe or the UK that hold the licences.
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Interesting…the civilian vehicles look cute!
Thanks for the link.
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Really happy with these.
STL from Dewcat, printed by 3dPrintDirect. Not a fan of the readily available mdf kits, but a few of these dotted about will be a great addition.
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Now that David is...a bright idea. lol lol lol
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This has been a 20th Century Fox production. :)
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You could be right….I have no idea if these are an accurate reflection of a ww2 search light, but they still look better than mdf ones imho!
They will add a nice degree of Hollywood to the game, probably not a bad thing!
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Look fit for purpose to me.
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Well….I’ve ruined them…had a mare with the weathering powder and fixer….and they will need redoing!
Here with the trucks which I’d best show now before I ruin with decals and weathering! Lol
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Four additional guards are from Crusader.
Also 1st Corps staff car (weathering again crap) and warlord feldgendarme motorcycle.
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Nice to see your Germans in something a little less terrifying
than a King Tiger. lol
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You are of course mistaken herr Schmidt no? Surely you mean my panzer II’s?
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You are of course mistaken herr Schmidt no? Surely you mean my panzer II’s?
lol lol lol
But you too are mistaken, it is Herr-less Schmidt :D
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Those are awesome the search lights look really good especially alongside the Opel Blitz lorries.
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Looking good! Are those the Tamiya Opels?
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Bold/bald statement there Peter. lol
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Bold/bald statement there Peter. lol
But accurate.
Always remember that God only made so many perfect heads.
The rest he covered with hair. :D
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Looking good! Are those the Tamiya Opels?
Warlord plastics.
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Fantastic work! I love the paint jobs!
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The trucks and lights look good to me.
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Nice to see the staff car done .Infact it's the only one I've seen painted ( Other than mine.)
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Cheers guys.
So finally my order has arrived! I’m in the process of finishing my pirate port buildings, but after that, I may get some guards finished off and painted and have a practice game with these.
I may have gone a bit overboard and will definitely have a sprue or two spare….off to eBay with those, but the models aren’t too shabby.
Will make a few minis up to compare with my existing guards and commandos…..
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Will make a few minis up to compare with my existing guards and commandos…..
Looking forward to seeing that. Though, knowing myself, it is highly likely I will get both the Brits and the Germans once WA releases them as separate sets.
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Glimpse of an update…..
So not a huge fan of the plastics that came with the O2 sets….so lost a little impetus.
However, we have been getting busy with the sub pen.
Jamie has painted me a pair of mafinificent barracks huts
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And is painting his way though my collection of subs.
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I have just made a start on an industrial building having bought this rather lack lustre yet respectably large unit
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Corrugated roof added and the under layer of brickwork. Next up will be some plaster work and a bit of detailing.
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Also have bought a few useful bits…..German harbour patrol boat, dockside crane etc……so moving in a bit, hopefully a better looking update soon…..
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Those subs can we see more details and pictures about those?
Loving all the new additions.
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All in good time…not quite finished yet.
However one is an Empress miniatures…the other longer one a 3d print with swapped in metal parts from Empress. I have another of those yet along with a couple of prototype noses from Empress.
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Your progress is looking good. Again, well done so far!
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Cheers fella.
Gable ends done today but biggest task to do yet with the wall plastering and making the doors look a bit more detailed. I want a little more detail on the roof too.
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Once this is done, I will make a start on the dockside proper. I already have most of th3 materials collated. I’m picking up the first two subs from Jamie this week so will try and get a few close ups soonest. I may have to paint a few sailors first….
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Great project!
I'm following this with great interest - it looks amazing so far.
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outstanding project!
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Great, as usual, so far. :)
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The BIG U Boat looks good. Can I have it back now lol
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Ha!
Unfortunately the big one is one of two I bought from Highlands print, sorry fella! 😉
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334478443871?hash=item4de078055f:g:sd4AAOSwFZhiriuT
Your prototypes will be used as front sections dressing the pen. I have however swapped out the clunky looking deck gun from the highlands print with your metal deck gun as it’s much better thanks.
All told, I will have three full subs out on water / alongside the quay, with two sub fronts in the pen….representing a total of five u boats.
Now I feed to find a supply of 1:60 torpedos….
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.representing a total of five u boats.
About time you (Wolf)packed in your building of subs. lol
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That’s the way to treat MDF! Looking good already :)
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Minor update….plastered the walls and added some roof vents. Once the plaster work is dry, I will sand it a little, then add some stonework around the windows with green stuff….if I can find it!
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A little detailing. The lights are from a miscast print. Really I just need to find some pin heads for the door rivets, add planking to the side doors and do the stonework about the arches then paint it.
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That warehouse is an awesome treatment of a very basic MDF shell.
You might want to consider a few details on those very flat looking skylights - just some thin wood or styrene around the frames would give them a bit of detailing.
Looking forward to seeing how this dockyard setup evolves, it sounds ambitious!
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Good tip yes, they definitely need something……I will have a tinker, cheers.
Most of the dock should be straight forward…..I just need a think on how to represent the front of the sub pen…..
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Yup, looks better!
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That warehouse build is looking really good.
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Cheers fella…well now the build is done as far as I want it. Now I just need to paint it! 🥴
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Great looking building!
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Top job there, matey!
:-*
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Digits - are you an architect or something? Fantastic.
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David, if you are only going to use it for Commando raids on the Sub pens...
dry brush it grey & leave it at that.
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Cheers guys for the comments. It will be a little more colourful maybe as it will be used in a more rural setting too in our other games. Maybe grey with green woodwork would work?
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that's a great scratch build
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So far, so good on that building. Can't wait to see it finished!
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Cheers…we’ll here it is.
I still need to dream up an appropriate sign to pop on the front gable end, but that will come to me eventually I’m sure.
This will fit in nicely with my rural games too, so quite chuffed.
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an appropriate sign to pop on the front gable end,
Use google translate & come up with something about engineering works?
Lovely job you've done there David. :-*
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Cheers Pete!
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very nice building, something like Torpedo workshop " Torpedo Werkstatt"
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Possibly but needs to be sensible used off board in other settings me thinks
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All looks amazing sir! The mdf box to building is great.
Can I suggest making maybe a couple of different hoardings/signs and maybe magnetising them so the can be swapped? It would mean defacing your excellent work slightly but would add flexibility. If the sign was metal and the magnets recessed into the building (as long as it was sealed and varnished well enough) it could be double sided to save potentially losing the spare. Or you could use sheet magnet as the hoarding/backboard fixed to the building and have the signs on sheet steel (so you don’t have to brutalise your endeavours).
Thank you for posting such an inspiring improvement to an otherwise drab and forgettable building.
Keep up the good work,
Balm
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Thanks fella. Yes that’s also a possibility. I will certainly think on…but it does need something….
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David I did some signs for Ian's WW2 buildings,
some Russian & some German. That way he could
use the same buildings for either a German or Russian town.
I used mounting board (thick card) for the posters. These
can be held in place with tiny balls of Blue-Tac. They have
worked well so far.
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We are actually thinking of reverse printing so it’s painted on the planking. I can however think i could put a board over it when used in the port…so same idea almost.
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Looks great with the paintjob!
My suggestion would simply be ,,Werkstatt" as workshop, it fits every setting, also a a German-occupied foreign country.
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So….giving myself another challenge….turning this shoe box into another industrial looking building that will sit alongside the one above…..probably with same paint scheme.
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Give Dave the task of making a small workshop and he will produce an industrial estate.
Top job on the first building!
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Ha! I promise this wing get too out of hand! Once I’ve completed this next one…I will have to start in the sub own itself….
Anyway….need to think on this one…not as straight forward.
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Ok…the answer was staring me in the face……nothing too difficult. Using up some balsa lap fencing to created the “cladding” and popping in the vent left over from the above building, it will break the monotony of the whole building being plaster and brick. The “skirt” around the balance will be plastered too. This hides the slot connections. This has meant I’ve lost the ability to pop minis in the top floor, but I can live with that…..so long as we know a unit in there….
The roof vents I found at the back of a drawer……I knew they would come in handy one day.
I need to texture the flat roof, and buy some pollyfiller as I’m out of it, but me thinks this shouldn’t look too bad. I have a couple of the lamps used on the last one still, and I may in time make a lean too covered, corrugated shed area to put up to it. It will be easier to do that separately I think.
Going to look in my bits box in the garage to see if I can fashion some kind of chimney vent too.
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Great start. :-*
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So far, so good!
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I said I’d put up a few pics of the two U Boats Jamie painted for me. A couple of little bits to sort out like numbering, but these are pretty much done. There is a second one of the larger piece to paint…..plus a couple of sub fronts to make the pen looked lived in. I have a few sets of German naval flags to sort out, and I will need to paint a few sailors, and make a few gangways plus piles of barrels etc to make them look like they are undergoing a refit, getting ready for sea.
I found a suitable 1:50 gangway from Shapeways but with US postage etc too expensive 😩
I need to find a source of 1:56 torpedos if anyone knows where to get them?
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Not 1/56 but ICM does a nice little German torpedo in 1/48 that comes with its own little trailer. It's a Luftwaffe torpedo not a Kriegsmarine G7 but I suspect nobody will notice and actually the larger scale means it probably matches a 1/56 G7.
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235097311-wwii-german-torpedo-trailer-48404-148/
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Yup I’ve seen those….I may just get a pair, thanks for the heads up.
A picture for scale
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Very nice! I want one for 20mm.
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There you go
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334478443930?hash=item4de078059a:g:sFgAAOSwCD1iriuW
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Lovely subs. Well done!
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Indeedy, those are cracking looking boats.
BTW Peddinghaus do decals for 1/48 U-boats if you don't fancy doing the extra decorating work yourself.
https://www.peddinghaus-decals.de/1-48-decals-for-shipmodels/?language=en
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Great link thanks……do you have one for the “U” and numbers too by any chance? Ta
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Wildman for 20mm crew these could be useful http://plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=792
I really love your subs Digits - absolutely cracking and they really are massive. I can't get over the size and putting one of those down on the table becomes a serious terrain piece.
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Yup…that’s the plan. And we will have three to hop on and off! I’m thinking of ordering the Shapeways gangway despite the cost as I think it would look good. I just ordered one torpedo to see how it looks.
We have a dockside crane, I have the harbour patrol boat to put together, I’m working on the second industrial building and I have the materials for the wharf……but I just realised….my sea mat that it will all sit on…..is only 4 x 4! Lol
Bugger…..now I need to order another larger sea mat! That wasn’t in the budget!
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Great link thanks……do you have one for the “U” and numbers too by any chance? Ta
Not off hand but I suspect there's any number of suitable number sets available. Try Hannants.
That said, apart from pre/early war boats there doesn't seem to be too much photographic evidence of numbers being displayed, most likely a sensible security measure. The photos of end of the war captured boats with U-XXX daubed on the conning towers look suspiciously like they were painted on by their captors.
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Hmmm didn’t know that……I will have to take a further look, thanks…..in which case, some of your referenced decals will be just the job. Ta
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Dave, the dockside or sub pens can be the final 2 ft at the end and doesn’t need to sit in the mat. Just up against the end to extend the play area.
As for the shapeways issue, can you just order the .stl file and get Paul Edwards at Sabotag3d to print it locally?
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I will look into the stl file Jamie.
As for the sea mat…it would look odd as the water into the pens wouldn’t match and it would bug me! Also, I thought I had it covered but I want to be able to square off with my beach mat for something else I have planned so will probably need one anyway. 😏
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Other bits coming together.
German Harbour Patrol boat ready for painting.
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Warf side hoist for torpedo lifting. Still needs cabling but I shall await the arrival of a torpedo, then look to have it slung I think.
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David
Particularly like the boat.
Where’s that from ?
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Barrage miniatures. You’d like them. I also bought a couple of Vietnamese house boats etc from them for my as yet off the ground nam project.
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David, with reference to your earlier comment (replacing jeep...)
I thought this might interest you.
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1342081023/wwii-german-schwimmwagen-x2-resin-bolt?click_key=c3e18ebeea0f691354625017456587aa2b7d59be%3A1342081023&click_sum=d6d5485e&ref=shop_home_active_32&pro=1&frs=1
I took a punt & ordered them. Took a while to arrive, but they are brilliant
Plus discount at the moment.
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Thanks Pete……ordered!
I have their British Airborne jeeps and a Fallschirmjager kubelwagon too….they are good. These will come in handy for my SS.