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Title: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: The Voivod on December 20, 2021, 07:48:43 AM
One of the sets I really need in my collection is some fantasy buildings.
The first model I ever placed on this forum was actually a fantasy home-stead.
My gaming preferences have changed a lot and the big solid blocks of terrain don't quite do it anymore.
Making the jump to primarely skirmish games, I need buildings I can get into. And hopefully my skills have since increased.

So here is what I have so far. I mostly done my work on a hotwire cutter, used a roller to get the stone efffect on the lower parts of the stone work, but the chimneys are engraved with a pencil. Some balsa for the doors and windows, as these would be the thinnest part, with card and styrene rods for the hinges.
I'ved tried simple drops of superglue for the nails on the hinges, hopig that shows up when painting.

Next I'll be creating templates for the floors and roofs. I'm planning to paint the floors and buildings seperate, for ease of acces, before glueing. The roofs will remain detachable.

And then the furnishing. I'm going to try not to overdo it, as I am not building dollhouses and there should remain some room for the mini's to move, but there should be enough to give the impression of them being lived in. Wether the village is then in the hight of the harverst festival or abandond due to an undeath invasion, depends on the scenario
though I'm sure to build some ruins and some point as well I assume... o_o
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: manic _miner on December 20, 2021, 08:38:38 AM
 Very nice work on these.

 What setting/game system will you be using them in?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Little Odo on December 20, 2021, 10:05:09 AM
A great start to an interesting project.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on December 20, 2021, 05:31:53 PM
Thank you. I'm a long way off, but the plan is to finish them before the end of the year. Just to try and keep something of a deadline.

@manic _miner
I've backed the Lasting Tales kickstarter, which is for a solo/co-op adventuring campaign. Gives me the proper excuse I've been looking forward to to get al kinds of fantasy terrain.
I'm sure it will be used for games of frostgrave and rangers of shadowdeep and such. As soon as I find the right ruleset my warhammer armies will probably clashing around them as well.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: manic _miner on December 20, 2021, 05:56:15 PM
 There is a great foam modelling FB group with some really talented people on it.You might get some idea's from them if you are not already part of the group.

 Been looking into the Conquest:Last Argument of Kings game which seem's to look pretty good.Some nice miniatures in the range too.

 The link below takes you to a great site that also might be of interest to you.I have a few boxes of stuff from them that i need to get around to.

 https://www.firedragongames.co.uk/
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on December 23, 2021, 12:56:17 PM
I'll look into Conquest then. thanks.
Facebook is one of those things that awaken the old grognard in me, I'm afraid. I usually quick to adapt to a lot of things but I try to get away from that as far as possible.

Not a lot of work done this week.
I made some templates, on which I drew the size of the actual floor.
This was then covered in a this sheet of foam.
Using a ruler I drew the planking. I didn’t  bother measuring them, as I don’t really care they are the exact same size.
I also cut a small square in the corners, in which I build a trapdoor in the same way as the doors and windows.

The trapdoor was an important gameplay detail for me. What’s down there?
Just a farmers winter supplies?
Secret tunnels connecting the buildigs to move from one to the other?
The lair of an evil dragoncult?


The inserts will not be glued into place for now. This’ll make it easier to paint the interior.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: manic _miner on December 23, 2021, 03:41:43 PM
 Looking forward to seeing these painted.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Cacique Caribe on December 23, 2021, 06:17:20 PM
Whoa, these look mighty fine!
Dan
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Daeothar on December 25, 2021, 06:19:49 PM
Looking mighty fine there, mate!  8)

These will be excellent raiding material for my goblins, warriors of chaos or undead...  :D

Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on December 30, 2021, 02:20:28 PM
Thank you kindly.

Yeah, christmas and life got in the way of my hobbytime.
I got a bit of stuff done in between all the seasonal humbug, but not much.

I finally did some measuring and cut some blocks of new foam for the roofs.
You can make these by building just the sides, which saves material.
But this is faster, more sturdy and the material is rather cheap.
It did ask everything I could get out of the proxxon for size, though and in the end, I made them a bit to small.

After cutting the blocks, I put the wire at and angle and created the roof form as I desired. I used different angles on different roofs for some variation.
After fitting I noted they where a bit to small, and stuck some thin slices on the sides and some strips to put them a bit higher on the buildings. No pics of this step, unfortunatly as I was kinda miffed about the delay and wanted it done.
Not the most elegant of solutions, but you won’t see it when the jobs done.

I got some teddy-fur from the net, instead of hunting my own.
Unfortunatly all stores, bar the essentials, are currently closed in the low lands.
I’d’ve prefered to go and see what I was getting as when I opened the packaged the fabric felled a bit light on the hairs. It sufficed, but there are some bald splotches I can see now it’s drying. I’ll see if I can fix this.
I cut an approximate piece, covered the roof in glue and draped the cloth over it.

When this was dry and solid, I watered down some PVA (1:1) and, using a cheap, big brush soaked the cloth.
Using half a cheap comb, I then combed the fibres into shape and now it’s drying.

Messy, messy stuff. My clothes, shoes, beard and living room are covered in stray fibers and my fingers looked like I was turning into an albino werewolf.
Best done in a dedicated hobby space, if you have such luxury

Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: gamer Mac on December 30, 2021, 03:52:09 PM
Very nice work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Seal on December 30, 2021, 09:44:48 PM
As many have already stated...fantastic work. I’ll be following your progress.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on January 06, 2022, 04:23:04 PM
I can't find my groove at the moment, so made very little progress.
I was finally ready to put the roofs on the models so I thought I made some nice shots of them.
There's some detailing to be done and openings to hide.
I also made some promissing first steps on the furniture, but that's for another update when I actually have something to show.

I cut some card into the correct sizes for the last of the roofing and added the thatch over it as already shown.
I made the fur covering this way to big and cut it into shape when dry.

Should've made a final piece as one of the roofs has a piece cut out, for the interior fire place.
Glued these into place and cut the holes into the thatch of the roofs.
Then made some pretty pictures.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Little Odo on January 06, 2022, 07:00:21 PM
Looking very good so far.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Melnibonean on January 09, 2022, 12:58:32 AM
Wow. These are looking very nice.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on January 23, 2022, 10:18:07 PM
Much obliged.

’m working on the interior detailing and I am not having a good time.
Not sure yet how it will turn out. Some looks pretty good, some might look good put together and painted, but at this stage I might wait for my 3d printer to arrive and just print it out. Not sure yet.

In the meantime I decided I might as well slap some paint on the buildings themselves as I can finish the rest of the detailing later, but still have some joy in my work. Hoping that seeing it all come together motivates me to finish the job. I bit of a bit more than was wise: making a set instead of just a building creates something great when you get there, but man, does it take a while and is it hard to stay motivated.

I covered all the models in a mix of white primer, pva and water. Make the mixute nice and watery and  don’t overdo it on the pva. We just need a thin coat of the pva to protect the foam from spray can gas and a little bit of strength. The model is bigger, but as always: 2 thin coats.

To protect the models as they dried I put some pint in the bottom. This allows the excess fluid to drip of, without creating pools sticking it to the surface it’s drying on. This will not end up looking good when drie so it’s best to avoid.

After this I used some cheap craft paints and mixed the colour I wanted in a empty pickle jar. Make enough of this, so you won’t run out and end up with two different badges on the same model. Thin the paint as it is pretty gloopy and again. Thin coats. I added some grean to the mixture and spread this on random places. Don’t over do this. I then created a wash of a darker mixture and applied this liberally. Again with the models resting on pins. I also added a small glob of black on some random places before washing. The wash would spread this around, creating some colour variation and weathering.

After this I made a new mixture looking like a lighter version of the base coat and used this as dry brush. I use a new batch because I don’t want my drybrusch paint to runny.

I also managed to put 2 coats on the wood after this. This still need washes and drybrushes and then I can get to the stonework. Making sure I get some colour variation in the model.
While painting the wood, I paid special attention on not getting any paint gattering in corners and details. Don’t want that ruiined.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Malamute on January 23, 2022, 10:20:56 PM
Looking great so far, can’t wait to see the finished  article. :-*
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Elk101 on January 24, 2022, 10:32:33 AM
This is looking really good.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on February 14, 2022, 12:28:24 PM
Thanks as always.
I've been pre-occupied with my new 3d printer for a bit. And now with it breaking and correspondence with the supplier.
Fun times.

I just decided to finish the outside. Have somthing to show. On the forum, but mostly to myself.

The woodwork was washed with a a brown and drubrushed with a brown/grey mix.
Afterthis I used a brush/pencil thing I got in an art store to exagerate the planks on the doors and windows.
I mixed a light brown, with a hint of green and loads of white and did all the plaster. Adding more and more white to the mix, I then stippled it in, having the darkest towards the wood and the lightest in the middle.

The stonework took the most effort. First is was all coated in grey with a hint of a warm brown. Then individual stones where picked out with a mix of grey and either a yellowish brown or a reddish brown. For this stage I used actual mini-paints as it requires a tad more precision and wouldn't cover that much.

I made a wash, water, matt medium, some flow-aid and mostly black ink, with some burned umber. I use quality inks for this. I made way to much, but put it in a container and it's sure to be usefull later. This stuff is at least as good as GW washes, but 4 euro's of matt medium and a few drops of ink gives me about 30 euro's worth of GW wash.

I ended putting the models on their sides and letting it dry before doing the next side. I tried the entire model at first but I just dripped of way to much. Glad the models where staning on pins so they didn't stick to the plastic covering I put them on.

When this was done: drybrush the entire stonework with some grey/bone mix.
Then I did some weathering with a brown/green ink mix, followed by some brown/black. I might do some more, but I like how it looks. I also started some work on the metal. Still need to highligh and shade most of that.
After that: some greenery and plants/moss. Hoping the 3d printer gets sorted out s I can start printing furniture.
May need to do another little project in the mean time. It's februari and I haven't got one mini finished yet this year.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Daeothar on February 15, 2022, 12:21:04 PM
Having seen and handled these yesterday evening, I can attest to their playability and build quality.

Colour transitions are smoother than in the pictures (especially the washes), and they complement each other very well.

Just this batch will already fill up a board nicely, and with some specialist buildings, such as a smithy, temple or mill, you'll have quite the village on hand!

Keep it up; almost there now ;)
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Borderguy190 on February 16, 2022, 01:13:56 AM
Fantastic stuff. While I am general a foam core and wood guy, I need to make more use of my foam cutter. These are really, really nice.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Cacique Caribe on February 16, 2022, 10:05:38 AM
Oh my … those look incredible!

Dan
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: War Monkey on February 16, 2022, 04:28:23 PM
Those building came out looking Great!
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: tomrommel1 on February 17, 2022, 08:23:51 AM
That looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Fabien on February 17, 2022, 10:02:39 AM
Very nice stuff!  :-*
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Garanhir on February 24, 2022, 08:20:11 AM
They're truly beautiful, I love the colouring on the daub.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on March 15, 2022, 02:10:46 PM
Ooh, proper model making. Excellent. Most of all - they look proper organic. Like something that actually exists.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: ced1106 on March 21, 2022, 03:21:50 AM
> ’m working on the interior detailing and I am not having a good time.

Nice job. I'm too lazy to do that much work, myself!

I have some resin buildings, and, while they have interiors, the interiors are too small for play. My modular buildings, if I put in enough room for furniture or for miniature skirmishing, are on the large size for miniature skirmish play. My Reaper mausoleum is supposed to have a removable top, but either the paint has glued it shut, or removing the top will ruin the paint job. So I can only really use interior decor for dioramas, or any areas that won't see play.

Let me know what you think of your 3D printer! Plastic feed or resin?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: SotF on March 21, 2022, 05:45:51 AM
> ’m working on the interior detailing and I am not having a good time.

Nice job. I'm too lazy to do that much work, myself!

I have some resin buildings, and, while they have interiors, the interiors are too small for play. My modular buildings, if I put in enough room for furniture or for miniature skirmishing, are on the large size for miniature skirmish play. My Reaper mausoleum is supposed to have a removable top, but either the paint has glued it shut, or removing the top will ruin the paint job. So I can only really use interior decor for dioramas, or any areas that won't see play.

Let me know what you think of your 3D printer! Plastic feed or resin?

The Reaper mausoleum tends to work best for internal access by not attaching the walls to the base there. The roof doesn't work that well as removable and the door hinge never worked with mine.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on March 23, 2022, 09:11:08 PM
The project is on a small hiatus as I've had some quality problem with the printer. There where some internal issues with the hardware and I've had a bit of a annoying back and forth with the webshop.

I ended up having to send it back to china, but luckily I was refunded eventually. In a few weeks time I'll be ordering a new one with a domestic shop.
While it worked, it was pretty easy. I followed some tutorials on youtube and was playing around with some fun prints and making some stuff for the kids to paint. It kind went %&^'s up at the point where I was considering printing some stuff I actually needed.
I have the feeling I just got a less then honest suplier. The printer arrived with a broken foot and some accesories missing. Nothing I couldn't work around, but costumer support was iffy at that point too.

While it worked it was almost plug and play. Make sure everything is level and calibrated. Chitubox is easy to use for the supports and there's plenty of wisdom to find on the web.
I got an Elegoo mars 2 pro resin printer. I don't know how low the resolution on a filamemt printer can go, but I'm not to impressed with what I've seen so far. Not for this hobby anyway. I've understood that you can file and fill between the layers, but I somehow don't think that's an option with the details we work with.

There's a lot of stuff available for free and some fantastic stuff for sale.
I'll be ordering a new one beginning nect month and than I'll be ressurecting this project.

Thanks for all the kind words and interest.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village
Post by: The Voivod on April 23, 2022, 01:09:18 PM
Long Hiatus, but I am back on it. I was a bit demotivated by some mishaps with my 3d printer, but I got it sorted out. Got my money back from the shop and bought a new one at another shop. Due to a sale I was even able to upgrade from a mars2 pro to a mars 3. Higher resolution and bigger buildplate: nice.

I did do some crafting in the meantime, but I haven't made a lot of pictures. You've already seen the floors, but I now added some colours to it. I used craft paint to mix a nice brown and a lighter tone. The lighter tone I painted on the pieces of the wood that would be most worn: the paths from the door to fireplace, bed, windows and tables. This was all wetblended and I painted metal on the trapdoor. Everything was given my standard darkbrown wash, with some added black. I was planning on drybrushing it, but decided against it. I liked the look. The worn effect was lost a bit, but the way it combined with how the wash had dried I though it gave it a look that had enough variety in colour and I like the dark warm look and didn't feel like brightening it.
I made some small strips of stone. Simply by cutting some irregular shapes and glueing them on a clothing pin untill they dried. Used some alluminum foil to rough it up and painted it in grey/browns with a wash and drybrush. These where glued in forn of the fire places. I was planning on some logs in them as well, but honestly, I just want this done now. Maybe at some later point.

Cutting some cloth in pieces to hang in front of the sleeping area, I super-glued them to some skewers and soaked them in PVA Glue/water/primer mix. I placed this on a surface the glue wouldn't adhere to and let it dry over night, after carefully creating some folds. I also used some of this method to put some fabric on some balsa wood cut to shape to fill the beds. Making sure it looked a bit lumpy. When dry I painted them up in several brownish colours and glued the into place with pva, simply sticking some cloth pins to keep them in place untill they dried. That's the enterior done, but for the furniture and the exterior just needs some green.

I bought some files for tavern props, which had some lovely detailing: including cutlery, buckets, food items, bowls, tankards and stuff. Really nice stuff that would allow me to make different shelves and tables.
There was also a wealth of free stuff to be found on thingyverse and the like.
One set of files came pre-supported (and luckily also unsupported, it seeemed).
As a complete newby I started with these, but I ended up as quite a journey. The pre-supported stuff came out fine, but some of the other model only printed half.
After googling what the problem was and asking advise on several platforms, including this one, I understood the problem.
A big flat area creates a lot of suction and will pull the model from the buildplate if not properly supported, so it will only start printing when there's enough space from another support to start builing on. The sollution is angling the model in such a way that the slicer shows a little red as possible before placing the supports.

This also means you need way less supports, in the final picture you see 3 models I printed at the same time. The one in front was supported by me and required little clean up. The one in the back came pre-supported but did not survive clean up.
It was a bit frustrating and all, but in the end it was a very usefull experience. I have a way bigger understanding about supports and becoming less anxious about using my printer. This did cost me a FEP sheet amd I needed to replace it, which was also a bit daunting. Not as daunting as having resin on my screen, but I was lucky I could remove it with a plastic scraper. Still best to not have this happen to often. I bought a screen protector sheet, which had some good reviews and some plastic razorblades that seemed to be able to clean a screen if disaster strike.

The final picture is what I now need to paint, which is actually quite a lot for but 4 houses.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on April 23, 2022, 01:21:07 PM
Lovely stuff. I think I missed this thread last time around, will be following with interest.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: Cacique Caribe on April 24, 2022, 06:59:02 AM
Wow.  Fantastic!  I would love to try something like this for 15mm.

Dan
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: D79 on April 24, 2022, 09:59:20 AM
Looking lovely!
I'm sure this will make for some great terrain, once finished!
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: Reed on April 24, 2022, 12:29:36 PM
Those already pre-supported models look like they pushed "autosupports" on the slicer with heavy density and called it a day.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: The Voivod on April 25, 2022, 07:27:45 AM
Thanks all. I'm hoping to make the finishing touches this week and finally call this project done.

Wow.  Fantastic!  I would love to try something like this for 15mm.

Dan

Wow, that sounds daunting. It'd sound like an interesting project to follow.

Those already pre-supported models look like they pushed "autosupports" on the slicer with heavy density and called it a day.
My guess as well. After that they included some heavy supports for.... reasons. Really wondered why they bothered. But the files where nice and I had unsupported versions to play with as well, so all's good in the end.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: The Voivod on April 30, 2022, 09:20:57 AM
It is done!
Unbelievable, but I plowed through it and I now have 4, highly detailed, completely furnished fantasy buildings.
It was somewhat frustrating at times, but I'm allready itching to build a hag's hut for the outskirts of the village, so I must have enjoyed myself. I am very pleased by the results and there's plenty of plans to add to the set. The smithy, Inn, a windmill and plenty of greenery, both woodlands and farmland. So much more to add to this..

There wasn't a whole lot of exciting things to add, since last update.
I added some green and moss on the outside. For this I made a mix of watered down PVA and static grass. I made sure to fill amy cracks where the wall pieces didn't properly fit as much and then scattered one of 2 materials over it. Some static grass on the lower parts and some bright flock to the green that would go higher on the buildings.
I made the pva/grass mix, so I could both fill the gaps, but also have an already green base for the greenery, making sure I would get a good, visible coverage.

Then it was just painting all that I had printed. I basecoated everything in one of two browns. After this I gave it all a wash (I started brushing, but ended up just dunking it all in the pot of the home-made wash I used for the entire project. So much faster and a definite plus on making such a huge batch)
A quick drybrush with the origional brown mixed with some bone and light grey and most of the wood was done. I picked the metal on the simpler pieces and gave this a black wash. The goal was to set aside as many finished pieces in  every step to make each next step less daunting. Seeing the pieces that remained required more and more colours.
I then tried and paint as many small details in one go as possible. All the cheeses, all the botltles and so on. Making sure as to not overdo it. Some pieces only got one highlight, but It's more an overall look I am going for here. If I paint this all up as if I am painting for a competition I'll never be done and I doubt it'll be scrutinized that hard.
And with that....
I'm done.
I'm done?

Now, if just the heroes can get rid of that pesky dragon before it torches the place, that'd be great.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: The Voivod on April 30, 2022, 09:22:24 AM
More pics and I couldn't add all in one go, but I'm eager to finally show this in all it's glory.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (The advenure continues 3D)
Post by: Ogrob on April 30, 2022, 09:23:20 AM
Fantastic! Lovely and atmoshperic.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: Reed on April 30, 2022, 10:17:46 AM
The interior of the housesis very well done, congrats.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 30, 2022, 10:18:35 AM
Brill  :)
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: Daeothar on April 30, 2022, 03:00:24 PM
Yay, you finished them!!!   :-*

They're looking da shiznit, bro!

Can't wait to do some questing and fighting in the village of Neverdone..  8)
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: The Voivod on May 02, 2022, 12:22:10 PM
Thanks all.
I'm pretty pleased and can't wait to break them in with a game.


Can't wait to do some questing and fighting in the village of Neverdone..  8)

Yeah, that sounds like an appropriate name...
Sorely tempted to start on that Hag's Hut I mentioned, especially with the new toys from Shifting Lands I bought yesterday at the convention.

That's a small project, right?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: gamer Mac on May 06, 2022, 05:11:18 PM
Great stuff  :-* :-* :-*
Can you tell me where you got the dragon?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: The Voivod on May 06, 2022, 10:33:23 PM
Thank you.
It's the Tyrant of Halpi and comes in the Mantic dungeon Saga expansion of the same name.

it's made of some weird rubbery plastic, not unlike the first reaper bones, so it's a bit hard to remove mold lines.
But for a model this size the material is rigid enough. It held detail well enough and I like the bulky sculpt, to fit such a hulking model in a boardgame.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy village (It's finished. For now)
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on May 07, 2022, 05:24:14 PM
Mega inspiring work. Thanks for sharing!