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Title: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on December 26, 2021, 07:11:02 AM
Here are the suggestions, compiled by Hammers, from previous years. I eliminated used topics, and a couple which were period-specific - or made them wider-ranging; grouped or removed a couple which were very similar to used themes; and added some new ones.

Please do post your suggestions and I will update the list. We'll try to get a decision by the first week of January

Boom
Comic
Lethal
Firepower
Mud
Vertigo
Food
Speed
Peace
Animal
Mineral
Earth
Poisonous
Spotted
Production
Noise
Exit
Small
Defence
War machine
Engine
Using a (Pringles tube/computer fan/box of matches/etc.)
2 by 2 feet game board (or 3 by 3 feet game board)
3D photography backdrop


BSC themes of the past:
Difficult Terrain (BSC2021)   Run by: Hammers, Winner: Akula ‘A Feast of Crows’
Wreck and Ruin (BSC2020)   Run by: Hammers, Winner: Codsticker 'Ruined Gatehouse'
Vegetation (BSC2019)          Run by: Hammers, Winner: Hammers 'Weirwood'
Ill-advised(BSC2018)            Run by: Vanvlak, Winner: Andym, 'Statue of Liberty'
Flight (BSC2017)                  Run by: Hammers, Winner: Andym 'Floatel'
Fire and Ice (BSC2015)         Run by: OSHIROModels, Winner: Overlord 'Flamer'
Water (BSC3, 2012)              Run by: Hammers, Winner: Blackwolf 'Forest Loch'
CD (BSC2,2010)                   Run by: Hammers, Overlord, Winner: Elysium64 'PipeOrgan'
Transportation (BSC1, 2009)  Run by: Overlord, Winner: Admiral Benbow 'Gunboat'
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: voltan on December 26, 2021, 07:59:53 AM
How about accommodation/resting place (something like that) as a theme?

I only say this as I've an idea for a build that would fit in with it.  ;D
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: AKULA on December 26, 2021, 10:38:32 AM
Some interesting ideas already ....”Defence” Or maybe “war machine” appeals personally, but I also like Voltan’s suggestion of “resting place”.

Another broad category to throw into the mix would be “time” ... not period specific and could be interpreted as showing decaying/ageing effects or measuring time...?
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on December 27, 2021, 09:05:31 PM
I’m keen on engine,speed or war machine  :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: FierceKitty on December 28, 2021, 01:49:51 AM
'nutha voice here for war machines.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Hammers on December 28, 2021, 09:48:28 AM
I like "Using a..." That sets a level playing ground yet stil with a lot of options.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on December 28, 2021, 09:56:18 AM
I'm listening.
We should do 'resting place for a war machine made out of a CD'  :D ;) ;)

That's sounds like I could enter a photo of my failed project storage in the cellar, I am sure I had something like that going on at one point....



Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: has.been on December 28, 2021, 10:05:35 AM
Lots of good subjects, but I too like

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How about accommodation/resting place (something like that) as a theme?

How about including a 'Feed the troops' to that ????
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on December 28, 2021, 10:53:47 AM
I think it is important that the theme is broad enough that it can be applied to several periods, and not contain the construction methods.

I like the idea of e.g. defense as that can be interpreted in many ways.
This could be a building, a fortification, a weapon or even a natural feature.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Captain Blood on December 28, 2021, 11:05:50 AM
Quite like resting place. And defence.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on December 28, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
I think ‘Defence’ is quite similar to last years ‘Difficult ground’ so my vote would be ‘Use a’  :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on December 28, 2021, 07:30:46 PM
Quite like resting place. And defence.


I’d end up doing another bloody pond,with nymphs handing out cupcakes…. lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on December 28, 2021, 08:41:03 PM
Keeping tally so far:
Resting place - 4
War machine - 3
Defence - 2 (and one concern it could be similar to last year's difficult terrain)
Use a (whatever) - 2
Speed - 1
Engine - 1
Feeding the troops - 1
Time - 1
Cupcakes and nymphs - 1  ;) :D

As the 'feeding the troops suggestion' was made as something complementary to rest, perhaps this could be considered as rest/recuperation (just as we once had fire/ice). Or plain old rest/food

As for defence: I see the point about potentially replicating difficult terrain; am trying to see if a suitable alternative can be found - perhaps armour/shelter?

Thanks for posting here to all - keep up the discussion  :D


Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Hammers on December 28, 2021, 09:44:38 PM
Keeping tally so far:
Resting place - 4
War machine - 3
Defence - 2 (and one concern it could be similar to last year's difficult terrain)
Use a (whatever) - 2
Speed - 1
Engine - 1
Feeding the troops - 1
Time - 1
Cupcakes and nymphs - 1  ;) :D

As the 'feeding the troops suggestion' was made as something complementary to rest, perhaps this could be considered as rest/recuperation (just as we once had fire/ice). Or plain old rest/food

As for defence: I see the point about potentially replicating difficult terrain; am trying to see if a suitable alternative can be found - perhaps armour/shelter?

Thanks for posting here to all - keep up the discussion  :D

Keep in mind, John, that in the end the theme is up to you. You need to "feel it" yourself to be able to run it for oh so many weeks, you know.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: aircav on December 28, 2021, 09:44:54 PM
I like the idea of resting place, it can have so many possibilities
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Codsticker on December 28, 2021, 09:57:29 PM
I would vote for "Defence" (although a "Defence" is generally considered difficult or rough ground in game terms it is not really the same thing as "Difficult Ground"- kind of like fingers and thumbs) as I have inspiration for that :), though I could also go for "Resting Place".
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Hammers on December 28, 2021, 10:17:01 PM
I would vote for "Defence" (although a "Defence" is generally considered difficult or rough ground in game terms it is not really the same thing as "Difficult Ground"- kind of like fingers and thumbs) as I have inspiration for that :), though I could also go for "Resting Place".

I think we sorted the definition last year.

Difficult Terrain is in most rulestes an area in which there is a Movement penalty to move through (like a swamp, dense wood, rocky terrain...)

Defense is, in most rulesets, a spot from behind which miniature A has no attack/shooting penalty but recieved a defence bonus from the attacks from miniature B, given that B is out in the open (like a bunker, wall, trench...)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Codsticker on December 29, 2021, 12:20:19 AM
I think we sorted the definition last year.

Difficult Terrain is in most rulestes an area in which there is a Movement penalty to move through (like a swamp, dense wood, rocky terrain...)

Defense is, in most rulesets, a spot from behind which miniature A has no attack/shooting penalty but recieved a defence bonus from the attacks from miniature B, given that B is out in the open (like a bunker, wall, trench...)
Perfect!
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: gamer Mac on December 29, 2021, 01:36:11 AM
I will add a vote for either defence or war machine
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on December 29, 2021, 06:10:02 AM
Keep in mind, John, that in the end the theme is up to you. You need to "feel it" yourself to be able to run it for oh so many weeks, you know.
Thanks - I am very much aware of that. I would never be able to run 'boiled eggs and cigarettes' as a theme oh heck why did I have to mention that urrrgh long story...
Having said that: I would enjoy and live with any theme, I think - but I will give my own preferences too:
boom and comic.
War machine would be a challenge, as it's a scratch-build - but not one which should deter anyone of you, I bet  :D That said, I'd have to define it carefully, and decide what is implied by the term.
I can see the attraction of defence, in spite of its potential similarity - the definition helped!

Strange thing is that I have no single idea for a build this year, for ANY of the themes mentioned, even the ones I prefer. Probably because I haven't stopped for a good think.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on December 29, 2021, 08:10:01 AM
I was the same,then I had a ‘big think’,and surprised myself with different builds :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: snitcythedog on December 29, 2021, 03:44:01 PM
My vote for resting place.  If I had another choice it would be building an objective. 
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on December 31, 2021, 05:58:11 AM
I was the same, then I had a ‘big think’, and surprised myself with different builds :)
I had a small think, but all that came out was a sudden urge to build one of my pair of 40K knights... definitely not helpful to my BSC plans!

So it seems that in the lead are resting place (would just 'rest' work better?); war machine; and defence; with use a (something) trailing. Any additional comments to close the year?
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: has.been on December 31, 2021, 06:02:17 PM
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(would just 'rest' work better?);

How about, 'Repair & Rest'  ???
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: McMordain on December 31, 2021, 09:24:40 PM
I could add a "resting place" to my alien swamp  :D
Though I'm fine with anything that come up so far. :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: cahrn on December 31, 2021, 09:59:21 PM
Really any theme would be alright with me as long as it's broad enough to be interpreted in a variety of ways. I also agree with the sentiment that it should be sufficiently different from the recent years.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 01, 2022, 11:49:00 AM
Perhapps rename Defence as Strongpoint, to make it clear that it is different to Difficult Ground.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: AKULA on January 01, 2022, 12:45:58 PM
Perhapps rename Defence as Strongpoint, to make it clear that it is different to Difficult Ground.

That’s a good idea - on top of the definition Hammers mentioned, it makes it a very different proposition from “difficult ground”

 :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: bluewillow on January 01, 2022, 01:08:56 PM
I like Defence or resting place/recuperation and war machine.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on January 01, 2022, 02:44:27 PM
Two suggestions are coming to the fore, both evolved:
Resting place, which could become Rest and Recuperation (with either of the two being sufficient)
vs
Defence, which could become Strongpoint.
I might resort to a die roll... :D
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 01, 2022, 03:13:29 PM
I might resort to a die roll... :D

 lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Daeothar on January 01, 2022, 07:55:09 PM
I already had ideas spawning for rest and repair, but I'm sure the juices will flow for any theme...  :D
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Burgundavia on January 01, 2022, 09:50:06 PM
I'm for resting place, as there are a tonne of different ways it could go
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Codsticker on January 02, 2022, 04:25:10 AM
I have ideas for both Rest/repair and Defense/Strongpoint so i am good either way. 8)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: AKULA on January 02, 2022, 07:57:41 AM
Plenty of (crazy) ideas for Defence/Strongpoint but am sure can come up with something for Rest as well  :D
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: voltan on January 02, 2022, 08:40:01 AM
My idea, that I'll be building anyway, kinda fits in both categories, but I'm up for cupcakes if muffins are close enough.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: gamer Mac on January 02, 2022, 05:26:45 PM
I am thinking about starting warhammer siege I already have a castle but was thinking of adding to it, would that fit the theme?
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Elk101 on January 02, 2022, 05:50:22 PM
Resting place sounds good. Broad enough to allow for some interpretation yet keep things within the umbrella of the theme.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: tin shed gamer on January 02, 2022, 06:47:53 PM
Going down the route of Devils Advocate.

To a man There's not one of you who couldn't conceive a cunning plan with in five minutes for any of the topics in the list. Being honest you've more than half a plan already  if you're proffering a topic.As it more than likely to fit in with a current project.

So why not take this into account.
Simply when you enter state a period/genre you intend the finished build to be use in. Once the competition is over.
It'll give you motivation and diversity to the competition.
More over if you can't finish In time or have to pull out of the competition. Then your not left with a dead build with no relevance to your projects. Rather something that remains relevant and can be picked up again when your able or just at a slower pace than competition speed.
That way you've no dead or lost hobby time, and your not sat hoping the build choice will have relevance to your hobby space.

How to add the challenge?

Ignore all the usual choices and list's and use something more abstract such as one of the following. A line of poetry,  a song lyric, a paraphrased quote from a movie ,or even a phrase.
It does force you to use 'the little grey cells' more than relying up on your crafting abilities.
How to choose the theme?
(With the exception of those wish to enter) why not have the modes privately proffer their choice for a lyric etc. To the competition organiser.  Who then choose from the compiled list.Randomly if need be.
Of course as always  having the theme remain hidden until after the closing date for entering.  Is much more of a level playing field.

Just a musing
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on January 02, 2022, 07:28:33 PM
Arnold Lane anyone?
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Sinewgrab on January 02, 2022, 07:31:45 PM
Rest seems like a decent one with lots of possibilities.

I'd be latched onto the Ink Spots if we were trying to use lyrics for inspiration...
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Codsticker on January 02, 2022, 08:33:07 PM
That's a very interesting suggestion TSG; I quite like it.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on January 02, 2022, 11:04:08 PM
Ooh,I’ve been looking at a lot of Rodney Matthew’s paintings :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 02, 2022, 11:29:05 PM
Ooh,I’ve been looking at a lot of Rodney Matthew’s paintings :)

I got his new calendar but I’m resisting the temptation to go through every month  lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on January 03, 2022, 02:13:57 AM
I got his new calendar but I’m resisting the temptation to go through every month  lol

 lol Great minds!
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on January 03, 2022, 08:03:03 AM
Ooh,I’ve been looking at a lot of Rodney Matthew’s paintings :)
Probably 'Rodney Matthews' could be a good theme...
Oh wait, I'm supposed to be deciding, not contributing more ideas... :D ;)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Silent Invader on January 03, 2022, 08:52:36 AM
Who is Rodney Matthews?
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Daeothar on January 03, 2022, 09:04:55 AM
Who is Rodney Matthews?
I had to look up his work myself, but that's a bit far out for my taste!  lol

But he did so some LotR work too I saw...
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 03, 2022, 09:22:35 AM
Who is Rodney Matthews?

One of my favourite artists  :)

https://www.google.com/search?q=rodney+matthews&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6gZbuoJX1AhWKasAKHTs9BSEQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1600&bih=795&dpr=1 (https://www.google.com/search?q=rodney+matthews&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6gZbuoJX1AhWKasAKHTs9BSEQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1600&bih=795&dpr=1)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Silent Invader on January 03, 2022, 09:59:50 AM
Gosh, he’s talented.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: gamer Mac on January 03, 2022, 10:34:34 AM
I am not playing if Rodney Mathews is the theme :'(
There is not a straight line in any of his pictures too organic shapes for scratch building
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Hammers on January 03, 2022, 11:11:41 AM
One of my favourite artists  :)

https://www.google.com/search?q=rodney+matthews&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6gZbuoJX1AhWKasAKHTs9BSEQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1600&bih=795&dpr=1 (https://www.google.com/search?q=rodney+matthews&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6gZbuoJX1AhWKasAKHTs9BSEQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1600&bih=795&dpr=1)

Very progressive rock albunm cover
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: aircav on January 03, 2022, 05:41:59 PM
Very progressive rock albunm cover

My thoughts exactly  lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 03, 2022, 05:46:05 PM
I would like to add an addendum:

I'm not a prog-rock fan  lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Dr Mathias on January 03, 2022, 06:16:16 PM
I'm not a prog-rock fan  lol

Too late to deny I think ;)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Sinewgrab on January 04, 2022, 05:10:37 AM
Matthews is a good artist.  Excellent stuff - but if we are using artists can I suggest Chris Foss?  Absolutely love his work.

Wait, are we still on topic here?
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on January 04, 2022, 06:27:07 AM
Matthews is a good artist.  Excellent stuff - but if we are using artists can I suggest Chris Foss?  Absolutely love his work.

Wait, are we still on topic here?
Nope, and it's all my fault  :D
And don't worry gamer Mac, I was only kidding. Although it would be a nice idea for a challenge.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 04, 2022, 08:59:23 AM
Sorry, my fault as well.

I would prefer ‘Strongpoint’ but ‘Rest’ is doable also  :)

Too late to deny I think ;)

 lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 04, 2022, 04:03:25 PM
Rest would be nice
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes - the rest is up to you
Post by: Vanvlak on January 04, 2022, 06:56:08 PM
Let's put this matter to rest. As the Romans say, alea iacta est (thank you Goscinny for teaching me the about the classic world).
Literally - rest assured that I actually rolled a die, one of those Warlord Miniatures Test of Honour ones, and it came up two knives, which was one of the 50% of the sides representing the winning choice.
To put your minds at rest, I will give the theme here as I probably won't have time to set up the competition rules tonight - I still have work to clear this evening before I get some rest.

The theme of the Build Something Competition 2022 is 'Rest'.
As in resting place, or resting.

And to give this competition a slogan: The rest is up to you.  :D



Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Blackwolf on January 04, 2022, 09:22:38 PM
Hmmm,I was hoping for defence; I had the idea for a sci-fi castle. However methinks a wizards sci-fi retreat/hermitage should do the trick (I bought three tubes of Pringles yesterday) :)
So expect Rodney Matthews crossed with Sidney Sime with a dollop of Ian Mcque  ;)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: has.been on January 04, 2022, 10:02:30 PM
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And to give this competition a slogan: The rest is up to you.  :D

Aw!  Give it a rest will you.  :D

Now to start thinking.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Codsticker on January 05, 2022, 12:39:55 AM
I guess now that is settled we need a start date and a finish line.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 05, 2022, 12:59:44 AM
So expect Rodney Matthews crossed with Sidney Sime with a dollop of Ian Mcque  ;)

I do like the sound of that  8)
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on January 05, 2022, 08:42:05 AM
Aw!  Give it a rest will you.  :D
:D

In other non-news, I have to admit this is the theme which has had me most badly stumped so far, in all the BSCs I took part in.
I do have a couple ideas, but none which really took my fancy, other than the idea of building a games table on a real four poster bed. You could even have a mattress level surface and a ceiling level one. Space and funding constraints mean that this one is likely to never see light.
Title: Re: BSC2022 possible themes
Post by: Vanvlak on January 05, 2022, 05:42:07 PM
The rules and dates are up: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=134888.msg1712477#msg1712477 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=134888.msg1712477#msg1712477)