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Title: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: summsi on December 28, 2021, 09:57:42 PM: I bought a box some days ago and on the box they are writing about commandos in Europe, Africa and Burma. Obviously the models in this box are not suitable for Burma, but can they be used for Africa or elswhere? If yes, should they be painted in khaki or in sand?

I am looking forward to your answers!!
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: carlos marighela on December 29, 2021, 03:27:22 AM: They appear to be armed with Mk 4 rifles and for use in the Med and North Africa you would want Mk III SMLE. The Vickers K guns would also be inappropriate for the Med. How fussy you are about such detail is up to you.

Battledress was worn in the cooler months in NA and the Med, so standard khaki.
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Harry Faversham on December 29, 2021, 08:44:28 AM: You might just twirl Commandos with No.4s in North Africa. British Paratroops serving there in 1942 certainly carried them, as can be seen in the piccy below. Regarding Vickers 'K' Guns, I always gormed they were first used in the desert. The first ones used being 'liberated' from the Raff by the SAS/LRDG and fitted to their patrol jeeps?

(https://www.paradata.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/masonry/public/pictures/na151.jpg?itok=yDjtZwFL)

:)
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Paratrooper 42 on December 29, 2021, 10:18:12 AM: Quote from: Harry Faversham on December 29, 2021, 08:44:28 AM
British Paratroops serving there in 1942 certainly carried them.

This is correct.
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Citizen Sade on December 29, 2021, 10:28:03 AM: Vickers K guns were certainly mounted on SAS and LRDG vehicles in the desert, but I think the land service variant with the stock and pistol grip was a later development. Warlord do make commandos with them, but they're metal figures. The plastic set has Bren guns.
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: CapnJim on December 30, 2021, 01:30:21 AM: While this might be a bit dodgy, you could just snip the muzzles from the Mk IVs. Gives the blunt-end look of the Mk. III. Not exact, but it might work. Like Carlos said, depends how fussy you want to be.
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Harry Faversham on December 30, 2021, 11:45:26 AM: Quote from: CapnJim on December 30, 2021, 01:30:21 AM
While this might be a bit dodgy, you could just snip the muzzles from the Mk IVs.

You can't do that, that'd make 'em short muzzle Lee Enfields...
oh, 'ang on!

:? :-X :?
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 30, 2021, 02:11:52 PM: I wouldn't get too hung up on colours. It's more important that they're useful to you. So if intend on using them for multiple theatres. Then opt for a halfway house of a light khaki. That'll pass as a dark sand.

Warlord aren't renowned for their research. For example the Vicker K 'LO' has a still of one being used in Theirs is the Glory. Then go on to to ignore the next scene actually sholw the correct firing stance. Demonstrated by the people who fought with them.( also its made in 1946 and is very possible that it's the only type of Vickers K they could get for the movie. As the majority of of Aircraft K's were retro fitted into LO's)
I'm afraid most written reference material related info on who used what where and when is total bollocks.
If I read something I try and find as much period footage as possible.

As for the Vickers k 'land' it was developed for the RAF as a ground defence weapon. They literally turn up where ever the RAF was.
It's more of a mission specific option rather than the basic section weapon.
The Special forces chose the Vickers k for it's rate of fire and reliability in desert conditions. The myth of the Special forces
Scrambling around to cobbles together equipment. Owes a lot to their choice of mother ship's. The philosophy of using what works best over who makes what looks Heath Robinson at its conception
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: summsi on January 03, 2022, 08:09:14 PM: Thank you for the helpful comments!
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: FreakyFenton on January 04, 2022, 03:48:00 PM: Just adding to this already good thread, Wargames Foundry has some British commandos for Burma. I reckon the Warlord ones could easily be kitbashed with arms from the 8th Army box or other sources to make good Burma commandos (i.e. long pants, but with sleeves done up).
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Harry von Fleischmann on February 08, 2022, 08:14:52 PM: on a commando note , I’m sure i’ve seen a pic of a warlord plastic commando built as the classic 1/32 airfix “lobbing grenade while holding thompson”. Can anyone point me to it and ideally advise how the left arm was built with the thompson as that doesn’t seem an obvious option! thank you!
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Ewan on February 08, 2022, 08:25:25 PM: Quote from: Harry von Fleischmann on February 08, 2022, 08:14:52 PM
on a commando note , I’m sure i’ve seen a pic of a warlord plastic commando built as the classic 1/32 airfix “lobbing grenade while holding thompson”. Can anyone point me to it and ideally advise how the left arm was built with the thompson as that doesn’t seem an obvious option! thank you!
Do you mean this one
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Harry von Fleischmann on February 08, 2022, 08:30:00 PM: That’s the one! Thank you!
meant to ask - where was it posted originally ?
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Ewan on February 08, 2022, 08:37:07 PM: Quote from: Harry von Fleischmann on February 08, 2022, 08:30:00 PM
That’s the one! Thank you!
meant to ask - where was it posted originally ?
I saw it here
https://www.facebook.com/groups/525943848803187/permalink/793763635354539/
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Harry von Fleischmann on February 08, 2022, 08:39:04 PM: Nice one, Ewan. I thought i’d seen it here! cheers!
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Digits on February 08, 2022, 08:44:48 PM: Andy Lilof has an article in this months Wargames S&S magazine on cutting up the plastics too.

In simple terms though…..any plastic kit is fairly easy to modify…try swapping hands on arms, and position limbs how you want them, filling any gaps with a dash of green stuff.
Title: Re: Warlord Games new plastic commandos question
Post by: Harry von Fleischmann on February 08, 2022, 08:58:22 PM: absolutely. I think the main thing is to be aware of what you want to achieve from a box / frame. You can easily barrel off making figures and then realise you’ve not left XYZ bits for ABC figures