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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Idle Doodler on January 03, 2022, 12:57:36 AM
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Recently got an unexpected boost to the hobby budget by doing a commission for someone's homebrewed game, and thought I'd use the opportunity to try a new scale for the first time since first picking up a box of miniatures 16 years ago. Grabbed a few sets from Ground Zero Games to form the basis for crews for 5 Parsecs from Home and Pulp Alley.
I'm a very slow painter, so am trying to lean into the more impressionistic nature of 15mm - simplicity over intricacy. I don't want to find myself investing too much time with diminishing returns, and subsequently losing heart and momentum.
Bases will be fairly spartan until I've got a better idea of what most of the terrain they'll be fighting on will be, so as to be easier to modify down the line.
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I'd say you're off to a pretty decent start with that lot. I like the painting style.
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Yes, it is a very good start, and your painting is really good.
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Thanks!
I'm glad they're small enough to nip in the bud any notion of trying to paint the eyes.
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Nicely done :)
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Beautiful work there! Wow. Thanks for that.
What are you planning on painting next? Any terrain projects?
Dan
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Thanks!
I'm glad they're small enough to nip in the bud any notion of trying to paint the eyes.
I hear you on that! I generally paint the eye area black and then push any flesh paint close to where the eyes would be and move on really at that scale the only thing you really see is dark slits and a good wash finishes the rest.
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I generally paint the eye area black and then push any flesh paint close to where the eyes would be and move on really at that scale the only thing you really see is dark slits and a good wash finishes the rest.
I found myself painting to and fro the black & white until it looked alright-ish, and then painted the rest of the face around it to cover up the overspill. Don't think the results meritted the time sink. From now on, a wash all the way!
What are you planning on painting next? Any terrain projects?
Dan
Currently got a few more GZG minis in progress, and bagged myself an ebay bundle which I've been sifting through for aliens.
Terrain-wise I'm playing around with Affinity Designer to try and design some simple fold-flat buildings. Got a basic design down which seems to work, but I'm not satisfied with the textures.
While that bubbles away, I've brought the glue gun out of retirement!
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This is one of those glue-down-whatever-you-pick-up jobs. No planning whatsoever!
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That is a fun ship. Never thought about using a circuit board like that before, but I think that it will paint up wonderfully.
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It's a heck of a lot easier than trying to come up with convincing electrics at this scale myself! I've been able to grab a few non-functioning electrical accessories from work so hope to repurpose their circuits and casings.
Next up are some speedily done generic troopers to cover all those faceless opponents from cannon fodder to spec ops. Tried making my own contrast paint to go over a white-on-black drybrush. A functional paint job.
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Nice looking unit. I have seen where one paint their figures white and then dip them in ink with great results. I have a fair set of GZG UNSC troops that I want to do using red ink. I think they will look great as Travellers Imperial Marines.
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Wow, those GZG troopers look great!
And I really like that ship. What are the dimensions?
Dan
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Nice looking unit. I have seen where one paint their figures white and then dip them in ink with great results. I have a fair set of GZG UNSC troops that I want to do using red ink. I think they will look great as Travellers Imperial Marines.
Have to admit I haven't tried with pure ink - will have to give that a go.
And I really like that ship. What are the dimensions?
Roughly 20 x 15 x 5 cm.
Bit stumped with what to do for the crew quarters with materials I have to hand. I had though about using some keyboard keys for furniture, but unfortunately they're a bit too broad for the scale. I've been putting together some cardstock buildings but find 15mm furniture a bit too fiddly to do more than the odd cut and fold. It's a shame - I've got a whole load of thick card to get through from defunct flyers at work!
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Some more quickly-done models, pretty much entirely contrast painted. Stand ins for any robotic opponents my crews might encounter.
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This is a good start. Keep it up.
Contrast does make painting 18mm faster. Rem that the undercoat/base coat will effect the final colour. I would stay away from dipping, in my opinion it does not yield good results.
Use the detail on the minis to your benefit.
I would add eye candy to those robots.
A simple way to do it is using a toothpick to paint lenses.
A dot of white/buff paint then a dot of say bright red, then contrast red.When dry a smaller dot of the bright red or orange.
If you want to go overboard a very small dot ( you can use a needle this time) of white to mimic reflection.
Hope this helps.
Z
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I'm finding more and more that I spend less time painting enemy figures. Quick and dirty gets it done. I've even half considered standees or meeples for enemies, but I can't quite get myself there.
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Those robots look great. I agree with Zrunelord, you need to help make some details "Pop" out. I wouldn't do dips either, it tends to hide some details. There are some great washes you can get or make Zruneloard has a great recipe for a wash, or you can check out some YouTube videos as well. You can then seal it all with some clear matte finishes with a coat or two.
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Hah, I may have misinterpreted the minis - it didn't occur to me that those rectangles on the face were anything other than a protruding brow! I thought the visor as designed came between brown and mouthpiece, which I clumsily slid a narrow dip of light blue across:
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I admit the troopers and bots didn't grab me quite as much as the crew - I find miniatures with faces much more fun to paint. I reckoned I could probably do with some faceless opponents, but it did mean I shied away from spending as much time on them. You're right - the bots in particular could do with something to draw the eye. If nothing else, some actual highlighting in addition to the drybrush would have helped on the more prominent features. I'll keep them in the WIP draw.
Zrunelord, would you be able to share the aforementioned wash recipe? I've been playing around with inks, matte medium and flow aid to try and get some contrast-like paints without plundering our savings for GW's prices, largely based off YouTube Goobertown's suggested split, but have only managed to get it 'right' on one attempt - the slightly purple blue used on the troopers.
I'm finding more and more that I spend less time painting enemy figures. Quick and dirty gets it done. I've even half considered standees or meeples for enemies, but I can't quite get myself there.
Yeah, I'm very happy to go down that route with RPGs and travel-friendly gaming. Sometimes the abstract is perfect sufficient for the imagination:
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It's one reason why I'm feeling so enthused about 15mm - it's necessarily more abstract than 28mm where I often find myself bogged down in trying to do justice to the increasingly intricate detail. That, and it's significantly less daunting to make scenery for!
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Here it is my friend from my Home away teams' posts
Red - GW contrast Flesh tearer red.
Blue - GW contrast Talassar & Aethermatic blues
Flesh - GW contrast Gulliman Flesh
Greens & Browns my mixes - Liquitex Ink, Matte Medium, some drops flow improver & limestone sealer ( I use this mix to create basic shades which I use a lot )
and to continue
The colour shade I use most is brown ( think W&N Peat brown or GW Nuln Oil), so I bought liquitex transparent burnt sienna, burnt umber, raw umber, raw sienna, sepia & red oxide. https://www.liquitex.com/row/products/professional/colors/acrylic-ink/?tab=versatility
These form the basis of my palette.
The 2nd most shade I use is green ( think W&N Brilliant Green see here https://www.winsornewton.com/na/graphic-art/inks/drawing-inks/#product-info-inks or GW Camoshade https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Shade-Paint-Collection-2019) so I got me Liquitex Permanent Sap green .
This forms the basis of my greenish mixes , you'll get superb shades by mixing with the above & the below.
Then I got the basic shades, liquitex Napthol crimson , vivid red orange , yellow orange azo & a prussian blue ( cerulean is very nice also ).
Keep in mind the undercoat colour, base colour & the transparency of the shade, filter or wash.
I also use concentrated tile grout colour . Cheap & intense colours.
I very often overlook detail until I start painting, use the details of a mini & decide on the fly.
Hope this helps
Z
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A trick some folks use is after applying your primer coat. They do an ink wash or a black wash, this will highlight many details making it easier to see them for painting. Also, by seeing these details it may change your mind on the painting scheme you may have been thinking of for a better look. It may add an extra step, but it may give you a better look on your minis.
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Idle, you should poke around in some of the other 15mm threads around here. There is a lot of great inspiration and wonderful stuff out there. I've noticed that a lot of the "regular" 15mm crowd has already commented here. Follow their names back to their threads. ZRunelord, War Monkey, Cacique Caribe, Brummie, Old Ben, Ockman, Billchuck, and Skullhamma all have some amazing 15mm work.
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Run "Zrunelord"!! We've been ratted out!! lol Yeah, CookandrewB has a lot of great stuff too! So yes, I agree look around and find your inspiration.
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nice figures etc
15mm is a great size.
Peter Pig got some green + red aliens + some heads for conversions.
Julian
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Indeed WM !!!!..... I'm off ......
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Indeed WM !!!!..... I'm off ......
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lol lol lol Way to funny!
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nice figures etc
15mm is a great size.
Peter Pig got some green + red aliens + some heads for conversions.
Julian
Head swaps are great for making up new figures. Here is one of my head swaps making a regular police officer figure from Rebel Minis and a new head from Peter Pig, WWI Dough Boy. I was able to make Minnesota State Troopers for Zombie games with a little different paint scheme they could have been some local Sheriff Department.
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With Ball Caps they could be Game Wardens, which will be a set I will be working on this summer. It is just a good way to give multiple figure a different look.
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Looks like I've got some lunchbreak research to do!
Not sure I'm brave enough to start thinking about cutting and sticking body parts at this scale just yet. It feels less forgiving than 28mm, which also has plenty of handy accessories which can obscure most of my clumsy sins. I have started breaking some of the more fragile limbs, so I should have a decent enough collection of practice dummies going forward!
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You can use Green Stuff to make changes as well.
Here I just added Green Stuff to make this figure fit the roll I wanted it in.
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The figure on the left I also changed its appearance with just Green Stuff.
So here she is finished and painted.
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These were duplicates of a set, now they are Post Apocalypse Scooby-Doo and the Gang!
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This should help to inspire you, due to the fact that many of the sets we all buy generally have duplicates of the same figure in them that sometimes we just don't know what to do with them.
I am hoping to see more of your work.
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very nice work WM
julian
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That, and 15mm figures are cheap enough that hacking one up and having to pitch it isn't that big of a deal. Certainly cheaper to experiment with than 28mm!
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That is very true. Not had miniatures this experimentable since Games Workshop sold 24 minis for £12!
Got some non-descript humans to serve as security guards, military and / or hired uniforms. Nice and flexible in use.
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Nice security team some great paint work! Yup, Different skin tones help with duplicate figures. I checked out your blog some really awesome artwork!
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Excellent work! They look awesome.
Dan
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The figures are great. On an unrelated note, I like that you have painted the edge of the base. I did this for my 20mm modern combat figures so I could tell the factions apart easily (particularly since everyone being in camo means that they can't just have faction color clothing). I keep thinking that I may do that one day for my 15mm sci-fi, but at least there I can easily do a faction clothing color or even matching bases on the whole.
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Thanks all!
I checked out your blog some really awesome artwork!
Thank you - a misspent humanities degree sketching lecturers...
On an unrelated note, I like that you have painted the edge of the base. I did this for my 20mm modern combat figures so I could tell the factions apart easily (particularly since everyone being in camo means that they can't just have faction color clothing). I keep thinking that I may do that one day for my 15mm sci-fi, but at least there I can easily do a faction clothing color or even matching bases on the whole.
I'm very tempted to just keep them like this. I never enjoyed doing bases for 28mm - often seemed to double my already-slow time per mini - and always feel a nagging irritation when they don't match the gaming table. I was an eager adopter of the clear base (https://therecouldhavebeensnakes.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/873e8-img_20180719_081426.jpg), but I don't think 15mm figures are quite so easy to de-base and restick.
This black-with-blue-rim approach at least averts the OCD issue by embracing the abstract nature of minis and telling my subconscious, "Look, the base is only there to keep the figure upright, not to represent where they're standing". In the same way I've no problem with glowing rings around computer characters whenever they're selected, I can accept these.
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A quick test subject to see how well acrylic inks would work without any matte medium or flow aid. Nice and vibrant over a white-upon-black drybrush and highlight.
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That little guy turned out great! Nice job.
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I like it!
Dan
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I think of painting the ring around the base pretty much like that glowing highlight ring around a selected character. It is just there to help me ID the characters. That said, I like basing, but only really care that the faction or group basing matches. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match the table or terrain to me. The base is a representation of where the faction or character comes from, not where they are, in my mind.
Like the purple guy.
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What CookandrewB said, I don't add details like rock, grasses or any such stuff, I generally paint my bases a light grey for most of the situations played out are mostly in colonies, spaceports or on ships. What few games you play out in the field usually won't matter because whatever alien planet your team may land on is not going to match the colored base you have. Highlighted rings painted make it easier to depict who the leaders and followers are, or those that have special weapons or abilities.
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I don't suppose anyone knows which line the purple fellow comes from? He came as part of an ebay job lot, and I've not been able to find the original source. I've identified most of the others, and they all seem to come from UK-based companies.
These gun-toting reptiles from Critical Mass/Ral Partha were part of the bundle. Pretty much entirely contrast paint and acrylic ink over a drybrush. With hindsight, the skin/scaly area needed a further highlight beforehand. I can logic away the apparent texture as alien hide, but it's not an effect I'm particularly keen on.
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I disagree. The snakey dudes turned out well. The blending is smooth and I can see all the details I would expect to see. The dark skin makes the yellow belly color pop more.
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The little purple guy comes from Alternative-Armies. https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/loud-ninja-games-15mm/products/rap015-super-mutants-1 (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/loud-ninja-games-15mm/products/rap015-super-mutants-1)
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Those snake guys remind me of the old 1973 film “Ssssssss”:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070622/
Dan
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I agree those snake guys look really great!
Those snake guys remind me of the old 1973 film “Ssssssss”:
Dan, the last time I saw that move was at the Drive-ins. lol
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Drive in? Wow. By the way, until now I had almost forgotten all about the half-converted guy:
(https://media2.fdncms.com/stranger/imager/u/large/44294475/1597515960-ssssnake_464921_44069.jpg)
Dan
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Dan,
That image sparked in idea, not quite the "Island of Dr. Monreau", nothing running around wild and free, however, a lab full of half failed experiments! Like a half-made snake man like the photo. Fish, Birds, Mammals and insects, man-made half mutations.
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WM
Lab? Seen this?
https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/how-would-you-game-a-wrecked-zoo-specimen-spaceship/
Dan
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Looks like I need to broaden my horizons beyond a Star Trek movie, Firefly and a few of the Star Wars episodes!
The little purple guy comes from Alternative-Armies. https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/loud-ninja-games-15mm/products/rap015-super-mutants-1 (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/loud-ninja-games-15mm/products/rap015-super-mutants-1)
Ah, thank you! My eyes must have skipped over him.
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Ah, thank you! My eyes must have skipped over him.
Doodler,
You're Welcome, I always like to help out other gamers. Curious, do you have a plan for more of those little guys?
WM
Lab? Seen this?
https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/how-would-you-game-a-wrecked-zoo-specimen-spaceship/
Dan
Dan
I have totally forgotten about the crashed Zoo Ship idea!
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Curious, do you have a plan for more of those little guys?
It's a shame they're not available individually - he may have to serve as just a Unique Individual or Minor Alien in my 5 Parsecs games for the time being.
Really enjoying working with acrylic inks. These painted up nice and quickly, and stand out nice and vibrantly on the table.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/2df176ec7ec03204191fb33fb95e3479/d5e658d0a6e3b040-94/s2048x3072/92ce6cbad1299b8f55ff95ab865ccd055923f898.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/2df176ec7ec03204191fb33fb95e3479/d5e658d0a6e3b040-94/s2048x3072/92ce6cbad1299b8f55ff95ab865ccd055923f898.jpg)
On an, ahem, unrelated note, what's the best way to robustly fix narrow 15mm ankles? Asking for a clumsy-elbowed friend...
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Good work ,
Rem use a colour wheel to create contrasting striking colours
Thin ankle syndrome ;) plagues some 15/18mm minis. Almost Impossible to drill & affix with pins. When that happens I bolster the ankles with flat pieces of sprue & superglue. You shoild use blu tack or plasticene to prop the mini into position before gluing.
The main issue is that newer / modern casting metals are harder & therefore will not take bending ( e.g when trying to make a different pose).
This should help.
Keep it up
Z
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Those Crusties look really great!
Thin ankles, Like Zrunelord mentioned, support with blue tacky, glue in place, then I use Procreate Putty to build up the ankles a little thicker.
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They make me think of garlic butter … :)
Dan
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Hey! Dan.
To Serve Crusty
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMKq6JwCTYA/maxresdefault.jpg)
I couldn't help myself. lol lol lol
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Ha! There ya go!
Dan
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I'll have to keep an eye out for more sea-based aliens. Perhaps a
Galician Galaxian octupus.
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I'll have to keep an eye out for more sea-based aliens. Perhaps a Galician Galaxian octupus.
I have an idea you can build from "Tentacle Brain Monster" from "Alternative Armies". https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-shm-and-star-vikings-ranges/products/shm12-tentacle-brain-monster (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-shm-and-star-vikings-ranges/products/shm12-tentacle-brain-monster) The legs are poseable, so you will be able to give each one a little different look. With some Procreate or Green Stuff you can add a couple more tentacles Alternative Amies also carries separate weapon spurs so you can arm them if you add the extra tentacles or modify the current ones to look as if they are holding the weapons.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5545/products/shm12_1ws_1024x1024.jpg?v=1571439149)
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Great looking stuff.
I really like the various civilians you have done, as well as those guys in the blue body armor.
Who makes the latter, and what is their name, if you recall?
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Thanks! The Bods in Blue, like the civilians, are from Ground Zero Games (https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/outrim-coalition-orc-/sg15-rc02.html).
I have an idea you can build from "Tentacle Brain Monster" from "Alternative Armies". https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-shm-and-star-vikings-ranges/products/shm12-tentacle-brain-monster (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-shm-and-star-vikings-ranges/products/shm12-tentacle-brain-monster) The legs are poseable, so you will be able to give each one a little different look. With some Procreate or Green Stuff you can add a couple more tentacles Alternative Amies also carries separate weapon spurs so you can arm them if you add the extra tentacles or modify the current ones to look as if they are holding the weapons.
Great idea, though that's a whole load more 15mm ankles at risk from clumy elbows!
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Great idea, though that's a whole load more 15mm ankles at risk from clumy elbows!
You could use putty to make the tentacle a little thicker and add a little more length as well, so they don't look like the dancing on the tips of their tentacles.
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I have an idea you can build from "Tentacle Brain Monster" from "Alternative Armies". https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-shm-and-star-vikings-ranges/products/shm12-tentacle-brain-monster (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-shm-and-star-vikings-ranges/products/shm12-tentacle-brain-monster) The legs are poseable, so you will be able to give each one a little different look. With some Procreate or Green Stuff you can add a couple more tentacles Alternative Amies also carries separate weapon spurs so you can arm them if you add the extra tentacles or modify the current ones to look as if they are holding the weapons.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5545/products/shm12_1ws_1024x1024.jpg?v=1571439149)
I’ll have to include those in my next order! Thanks
Dan
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You could use putty to make the tentacle a little thicker and add a little more length as well, so they don't look like the dancing on the tips of their tentacles.
Certainly looks like I'll need to be adding Green Stuff to my 'to get' list.
Quick job on another member of the job lot (also from Alternative Armies), done in one sitting. Really rather enjoying 15mm as a scale - so much easier for a slow painter to avoid getting bogged down.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7f8a469340fcf7085a0ed1f537c7e510/d5e658d0a6e3b040-0e/s2048x3072/2723f8f7f54c225efa470907391d21d36fc24bec.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/7f8a469340fcf7085a0ed1f537c7e510/d5e658d0a6e3b040-0e/s2048x3072/2723f8f7f54c225efa470907391d21d36fc24bec.jpg)
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Nice job!
I can confirm that slow painters can still get bogged down painting 15mm lol
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Nice looking Figure.
Certainly looks like I'll need to be adding Green Stuff to my 'to get' list.
If you haven't used Green Stuff before or any other such putties, I recommend watching some of the YouTube channels. I got started watching Tom Mason. He has a great tutorial on sculpting 15mm. Here's a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ef-skMFHqg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ef-skMFHqg)
Putties can be a real pain I would suggest just making little things at first, I Draw little objects (outlines) on a 3x5 card cover it with shiny packing tape (Makes it easier to pop off the card). Then I go for the putty, things will be flat on one side, however if you are doing a weapon let's say you can add a little detail when your sculping it to a figure. But if you're doing a weapons rack then it is not a problem. I started by making little things like boxes or cargo like objects then move on to more challenging things.
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You definitely should try putty, it will open new venues.
To make a tentacle just roll a thin sausage of putty on a wetted
Old credit card with a fine toothed comb.
I personally prefer brown stuff or GS + milliput. All putties have different properties. Be patient & persevere as it can be frustrating at times. Make your own tools keeping in mind that all tools will make a reverse impression on the putty.
Take your time . Heat will reduce curing time BUT do not use a microwave. A good idea is to get blue mouldable rubber like the one from Green Stuff World or you can make press moulds using plastic sprue.
And most importantly, do not give up, especially when putty doesn"t want to stick to the blasted model ;) :D.
Z
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I've got some old green stuff that I've been slowly working through to build up bases so that each figure goes onto a 12mm washer, but it's over a decade old and doesn't work as well as it ought to for finer details. I do have some Oyumaru / Blue Stuff, and have started dissolving old sprues in acetone (I knew it was worth holding onto them for 20 years) - just need to find some good bits and pieces to cast for terrain.
Less time spent painting recently so only this trio of aliens to show for the last couple of weeks. Not entirely convinced I've got this drybrushing thing down pat - I've grabbed some cheap make up brushes to see if they help get a softer touch.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f273a3f09416f09fb1e0e0d79f7e4070/d5e658d0a6e3b040-34/s2048x3072/3dc148781af45093dca96a8838301a30d10e676a.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/f273a3f09416f09fb1e0e0d79f7e4070/d5e658d0a6e3b040-34/s2048x3072/3dc148781af45093dca96a8838301a30d10e676a.jpg)
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They came out good.
If you are using plastic sprue goo in blue stuff moulds just note that the acetone can degrade them as it is a strong chemical.
Z
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Those look great, I use make-up brushes for dry brushing, they work really well.
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Mrs Doodler was most amused at how pink everything was (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51jwwjxLfIL._AC_SL1000_.jpg). Doesn't quite fit with the aesthetics of anything at home. The tin must be good for something, though.
If you are using plastic sprue goo in blue stuff moulds just note that the acetone can degrade them as it is a strong chemical.
Early days, but so far it doesn't seem to have eaten away at any of the Blue Stuff. Having to remain patient, though - storms Dudley and Eunice have made outdoor hobbying or indeed opening windows a less-than-practical choice of activity, and that acetone has quite an odour!
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I said can, give it time & it will.
Not to sound like I'm, lecturing but Acetone is a highly flammable, strong degreaser, paint/ nail polish remover, glue remover.
Please do be careful with acetone & do wear safety glasses due to possible splashes etc. a small drop of the stuff can have dire consequences on your eyes. :( :( :(
Apart from that enjoy your trials with plastic goo as they can lead to some quite nice results.
Z
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I appreciate it! I'm a belt-and-braces fellow, so am tackling it armed with goggles, gloves, mask and apron. Lots of time in PPE has acclimatised me to caution!
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" Belt and Braces " ... I learnt another expression :D
Coincidentally, I'm into OHS also, so experience does teach one a thing or 2... & what's the use of learning if one doesn't share knowledge gained. ;)
Btw, I have foregone acetone & use paint thinner to dissolve plastic sprue with good results. Still hazardous but perhaps slightly less so....
Z
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Quick job on another member of the job lot (also from Alternative Armies), done in one sitting. Really rather enjoying 15mm as a scale - so much easier for a slow painter to avoid getting bogged down.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7f8a469340fcf7085a0ed1f537c7e510/d5e658d0a6e3b040-0e/s2048x3072/2723f8f7f54c225efa470907391d21d36fc24bec.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/7f8a469340fcf7085a0ed1f537c7e510/d5e658d0a6e3b040-0e/s2048x3072/2723f8f7f54c225efa470907391d21d36fc24bec.jpg)
Which figure is that one, exactly? Thanks
Dan
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Which figure is that one, exactly? Thanks
It's from https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/loud-ninja-games-15mm/products/rap014-mutants-1 (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/loud-ninja-games-15mm/products/rap014-mutants-1)
Far right.
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I've been messing around with boxes and scrap gathered from a nearby hardware-focused charity shop, ultimately hoping to overcome an inability to complete more than a handful of terrain pieces for any one particular project. I'm finding 15mm a lot more accessible for terrain making.
Alas, my trusty old glue gun gave up the ghost partway through one building. Rather than discard it into a landfill, however, I tackled it with a screwdriver and played around with the shapes. A new reincarnation became obvious, so with a new glue gun in hand I put this together:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b7178d9499a2efe2daf744620d4e7bac/e151d0a58f5f1586-70/s2048x3072/c08b755d72e4b692b6ea237e6b101286582a6e72.png) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/b7178d9499a2efe2daf744620d4e7bac/e151d0a58f5f1586-70/s2048x3072/c08b755d72e4b692b6ea237e6b101286582a6e72.png)
The only additions are a bit of scrap foamcore for the base and some circuit board from a defunct mouse as the controls - everything else came from the glue gun (including cable and plug).
It's a bit scruffy, and I've nothing to hand to make it easier to sand down the interior any further, so it will do duty as a rusty old single-occupant spaceship, perhaps a commuter vessel or the ride of small-town bounty hunter.
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Looking good & it has promise.
Indeed building something for the smaller scales ( 15/10/6mm ) is way much better than building for 28mm,
Especially space where to store the finished models.
Z
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Oh, that looks great! You can build from there. I can see a ship in the making from that.
Here are some ideas these were just built from foamboard, chipboard and cereal box cardboard.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jMWCETwqvPM/YQ2QPs0TprI/AAAAAAAACpY/liCBTz_GscwcR7Ftn5RHsrAPEoT1v3qGgCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/P1010963.JPG)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o6UEsuNH0KQ/XgTXyHmLwCI/AAAAAAAAB-w/Jw54sLT_-McT3XPl5r1M9V7AXlrcKU_igCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/102_1813.jpg)
CookAndrewB has some great examples too.
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I think that came out well. I have to admit that I'm always quite impressed when someone can look at some rubbish and immediately see the potential in it. I've collected interesting bits for years and still struggle to put it all together in some cohesive package.
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I'm just a hoarder. My envy is reserved for all of you who can chop up abstract shapes and make them look like wall panels!
I might need to access the creative hivemind here. I've commandeered some old keyboards from work and have taken them apart. The casings look good for making platforms and the like, but I'm wondering what to do with all these keys:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/da0e795e2901f75f0191e9869b6d2c49/300b9dfa4893dba4-31/s2048x3072/8b9316789b0bc933cbce5ebee0712e98c086f3d0.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/da0e795e2901f75f0191e9869b6d2c49/300b9dfa4893dba4-31/s2048x3072/8b9316789b0bc933cbce5ebee0712e98c086f3d0.jpg)
I wondered about wall panels, though they're quite deep for such a purpose, and might need some sprucing up to avoid all looking a bit samey. Here's a dry run:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/70f3ce59ef96f3895d404d8cf93fc7fb/300b9dfa4893dba4-37/s2048x3072/ea7553be155d3ba026ef88b6110c27eaf5c84b3c.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/70f3ce59ef96f3895d404d8cf93fc7fb/300b9dfa4893dba4-37/s2048x3072/ea7553be155d3ba026ef88b6110c27eaf5c84b3c.jpg)
I've got a couple of those wooden artist boxes which could fit a full playing board in each side, so I'm looking for things no more than 2cm in height. The keys are short enough, although their depth will take up quite a bit of space inside.
Any ideas for what to do with four keyboards' worth of keys?
I also picked up these recently:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/0b824d80054f56232f551140c0e2d5eb/300b9dfa4893dba4-f1/s2048x3072/735c16c5448d9b50787b21b211a466a4e51be67f.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/0b824d80054f56232f551140c0e2d5eb/300b9dfa4893dba4-f1/s2048x3072/735c16c5448d9b50787b21b211a466a4e51be67f.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/38f1103e22f7c2d473d0d6a2464f5534/300b9dfa4893dba4-b6/s2048x3072/3ed4c58a8a4d97d95492767855a6da76dbe4f40d.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/38f1103e22f7c2d473d0d6a2464f5534/300b9dfa4893dba4-b6/s2048x3072/3ed4c58a8a4d97d95492767855a6da76dbe4f40d.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/fdd93a5afd7272366ad11a2957fc5c8c/300b9dfa4893dba4-11/s2048x3072/018eac6766d3fa535a9dad6ef492fdfac8e69556.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/fdd93a5afd7272366ad11a2957fc5c8c/300b9dfa4893dba4-11/s2048x3072/018eac6766d3fa535a9dad6ef492fdfac8e69556.jpg)
(These are after two rounds of cleaning - lots of ingrained 'history'!)
I'm sure these could be useful, though I'm torn between using them as is for gaming boards, with perhaps a matching gateway cut into the sides of each to allow for a bit of modularity and some textures and greebles added, or cutting them up and spreading them around different projects. Some parts are too narrow to for 15mm gameplay, but there's plenty of cover, corners and multi-levels. Unfortunately, lots of the areas are a bit too deep to fit in the art box, otherwise they would have been perfect.
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I think the trays would look good with a few bits and pieces added to them.Maybe some bridges and such to help give more playability.
The round type buttons would help to add some detail to the terrain too.Some of the keys could also work as crates.You have plenty to make some good sized stacks for cover.
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I'm just a hoarder. My envy is reserved for all of you who can chop up abstract shapes and make them look like wall panels!
I recommend try drawing these panels then cut them apart the put them in place with a bit of a gap between them. Or you can make lite cuts and use a fine ball point pen and retrace those fine cuts, the cuts, cut the fiber and the pen helps push those cut fibers down.
(https://www.mygundamtricks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Gunpla-Panel-Line-Guide.png)
The nice thing is you can draw these up to any size you want, and you can practice on scrap so if it turns out as a mess then you can add it to junk pile for your scrapyard for every good spaceport need a scrapyard. Just make the junk piles in "L" shapes "T" shapes "I" shapes and squared off "C" shapes. This will give you the ability to layout junk piles in different ways, you could even play out battles on a junk world like the movie "Soldier" with Kurt Russell.
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We are ALL hoarders ;D
I have some 4 keyboards waiting to be used. ;)
Main problem with keys is they are slanted or curved.
You can use them for the feet ( glued in 2's , 3's or 4's) then sticking struts to the top part. The good thing is that a lot of kb's are made from polystyrene ( i.e. like sprue ) so can easily be cut & glued.
They can be also be used as turrets. Even as cargo ( glued back to back), as windows if you saw the tops off ( though this is fiddly).
Even as flooring if you heat them up & flattening them when soft.
Look also at the reverse detail, sometimes the back of moulded plastic is even better.
I think the main issue here is that you need tools to work with & to hold items whilst working.
And WM has given you great panel line tips ( which reminds I still have to make or buy micro chisels )
For e.g. search for tools on my blog. Sorry for some reason
I can't post link from my mob at the moment !!!!
Z
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The round type buttons would help to add some detail to the terrain too.Some of the keys could also work as crates.You have plenty to make some good sized stacks for cover.
Main problem with keys is they are slanted or curved.
You can use them for the feet ( glued in 2's , 3's or 4's) then sticking struts to the top part. The good thing is that a lot of kb's are made from polystyrene ( i.e. like sprue ) so can easily be cut & glued.
They can be also be used as turrets. Even as cargo ( glued back to back), as windows if you saw the tops off ( though this is fiddly).
Even as flooring if you heat them up & flattening them when soft.
Look also at the reverse detail, sometimes the back of moulded plastic is even better.
Yeah, I've had to lay aside the idea of using as wall panels for the time being, so they're currently awaiting gluing to become futuristicy crates (where engineering has evidently evolved to the point where warped decagons are the go-to shape for mass transport!). I've gutted the undersides of some to see how feasible it might be, but I don't think it would be worth the investment on a larger scale.
I recommend try drawing these panels then cut them apart the put them in place with a bit of a gap between them. Or you can make lite cuts and use a fine ball point pen and retrace those fine cuts, the cuts, cut the fiber and the pen helps push those cut fibers down.
Thank you - these are very helpful!
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I'm just a hoarder. My envy is reserved for all of you who can chop up abstract shapes and make them look like wall panels!
Adam Savage recently did a video on You Tube on paneling models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZPuE0wBE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZPuE0wBE8)
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Thanks for the vid link.
Always a pleasure to watch Adam working. If I might add, the second best alternative to polystyrene is card. Cheap or free, comes in various thicknesses, easily cut/bent & glued. Most of my builds are made out of it so I have proved this. The downside is that it soaks water like a sponge but it can easily be sealed.
What I will stress is what Adam states, you need tools, whether homemade or bought, tools are half the job.
Z
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I would use the keys for 'crates' glue them open side
to open side, then glue groups onto a thin base as
clumps of crates. You can then deploy clumps together,
or leave gaps for figures to move through.
As to the Yellow trays. Make walkways to go over the
areas too narrow to put figures in. It will add an other
level to the scenery. Also worth drilling holes either side
of those narrow 'canyons' then pushing tubes (defunct
biro inners for example) or 'cables' (defunct electrical
wiring for example) through. It will provide more
interest.
Good look with this.
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I like the idea of keys as crates. Like a different version of the old pop bottle cap crates. If they don't turn out all that splendid, you can always drape them with tissue to make them tarp covered! Tarp fixes everything, and it makes you wonder who might be under there. Doesn't even matter what the shape is then.
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They're not too bad as far as crates go. Certainly good enough to hide behind and break line of sight.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f21769dddc7e4abc2be4f2b4f39c534b/51d623240537f8c3-28/s2048x3072/9a90885ed6944e7ddda6a3fe638937c57e397cde.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/f21769dddc7e4abc2be4f2b4f39c534b/51d623240537f8c3-28/s2048x3072/9a90885ed6944e7ddda6a3fe638937c57e397cde.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/51b00e78dc6570af24815ca625078723/51d623240537f8c3-8f/s2048x3072/7c9cfe8184add8ce4a322d136ea917ff2ccdd12b.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/51b00e78dc6570af24815ca625078723/51d623240537f8c3-8f/s2048x3072/7c9cfe8184add8ce4a322d136ea917ff2ccdd12b.jpg)
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Now base them in 'clumps' & you have a useful
terrain resource. :D
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There are certainly enough of them to make a decent container depot maze! Now to disassemble this bust PC...
Turns out I've run out of paintbrushes with decent points, so have found myself putting some colour to the ship.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/4d9625b2dd945466ce0298c197688ceb/51d623240537f8c3-24/s2048x3072/802d22b068108ece85b3f9d3ab551bf2d90b7846.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/4d9625b2dd945466ce0298c197688ceb/51d623240537f8c3-24/s2048x3072/802d22b068108ece85b3f9d3ab551bf2d90b7846.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/0b310fba2a2f6e54cc02007cbe45fa95/51d623240537f8c3-70/s2048x3072/61ba41fb93613e25542e24b7aeb57040e5cfae65.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/0b310fba2a2f6e54cc02007cbe45fa95/51d623240537f8c3-70/s2048x3072/61ba41fb93613e25542e24b7aeb57040e5cfae65.jpg)
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That looks great! I can see it sitting in a spaceport or on some strange planet and everyone screaming! "Get to the Chopper!"
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Agreed, that turned out quite well. Can you get a shot of it with some figures inside? I'm curious how it does for scale.
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Looks nice indeed ;)
Yes minis would give us a sense of scale.
You might also consider a top made out of card, painted in whatever scheme you want or done up on a pc & printed in colour then stuck on card.
Also a removable tray(?) To put underneath with wheels/landing struts + ladder/ramp so that you can have minis scurrying underneath.
Z
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Looks great! Reminds me of the infamous Blake's 7 hairdryer spaceship!
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Here's a pair of images with a space captain for scale:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/280b71aa1f937d5b22ee9cd4286589e4/51d623240537f8c3-f4/s2048x3072/3df862691fb836fca40717d006ffa38dc4f52d79.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/280b71aa1f937d5b22ee9cd4286589e4/51d623240537f8c3-f4/s2048x3072/3df862691fb836fca40717d006ffa38dc4f52d79.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/535e88beafd8008ed8e4a6541797d582/51d623240537f8c3-fd/s2048x3072/25de4da304da4175ebf0171dd99f6d1b613def3e.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/535e88beafd8008ed8e4a6541797d582/51d623240537f8c3-fd/s2048x3072/25de4da304da4175ebf0171dd99f6d1b613def3e.jpg)
Were I to build something like this from scratch, I'd probably have the walls higher and not quite so many tricky-to-reach areas needing further sanding, but for something emerging from the wreckage of a bust tool, I'm pretty happy with the result. Just got to work on scenery painting technique.
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They're not too bad as far as crates go. Certainly good enough to hide behind and break line of sight.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f21769dddc7e4abc2be4f2b4f39c534b/51d623240537f8c3-28/s2048x3072/9a90885ed6944e7ddda6a3fe638937c57e397cde.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/f21769dddc7e4abc2be4f2b4f39c534b/51d623240537f8c3-28/s2048x3072/9a90885ed6944e7ddda6a3fe638937c57e397cde.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/51b00e78dc6570af24815ca625078723/51d623240537f8c3-8f/s2048x3072/7c9cfe8184add8ce4a322d136ea917ff2ccdd12b.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/51b00e78dc6570af24815ca625078723/51d623240537f8c3-8f/s2048x3072/7c9cfe8184add8ce4a322d136ea917ff2ccdd12b.jpg)
Scrabble tiles and Legos seem to work well also:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=372139
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=444993
https://flic.kr/p/qB7G4n
Dan
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Ooh, some good ideas there
Particularly Scrabble tiles - Mrs Doodler and I haven't touched our set in years after it prompted the biggest argument we've had. Repurposing it here will be far more productive.
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Particularly Scrabble tiles - Mrs Doodler and I haven't touched our set in years after it prompted the biggest argument we've had. Repurposing it here will be far more productive.
If you do repurpose the Scrabble tile, could you do a tutorial.
keep it very simple for me, in fact...
could you spell it out?
lol lol lol
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Scrabble tiles would make good walls. Does the lettering have an indentation to it? I suppose there are tiles out there that are easily painted over, and those that need to be placed letter side down. A little texture paste on the tiles would have them looking like good old concrete blocks in no time!
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But ..but but you can't do that to scrabble tiles!!!!
It's one of the best family games ever.... we still use our 30 year old set....
But you can always make a press mould or find a busted set at a car boot sale. 1 euro shops usually have cheap building blocks sets also .
Z
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Guys
Make sure to Google the following: manipulative tiles
Some are wood, some are foam, but others are plastic. Go with the plastic ones with the smooth surface.
Dan
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Ah, but this is an opportunity to rid the world of one more poisonous specimen of that accursed game!
Those manipulative tilkes are definitely going on my wishlist, though.
This scrabble set has a flat side and a porthole-y side, and I daresay that board could serve as the basis for a travel table:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/80fa23a9a3b467c08997b960afea3550/c2e845d1bd465bb6-ab/s2048x3072/74c277235434f7eb94ef9d8826b5845d434398fb.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/80fa23a9a3b467c08997b960afea3550/c2e845d1bd465bb6-ab/s2048x3072/74c277235434f7eb94ef9d8826b5845d434398fb.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/6573d6aa60ddfb626cebbcfdb032a6af/c2e845d1bd465bb6-db/s2048x3072/b29f12d688feeabc2ed317bc138d857f6767da21.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/6573d6aa60ddfb626cebbcfdb032a6af/c2e845d1bd465bb6-db/s2048x3072/b29f12d688feeabc2ed317bc138d857f6767da21.jpg)
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Neither Mrs Doodler or I drive, so when we go on holiday I'm rather limited in what gaming materials I can bring. Everything needs to fit in a single pulling case, and I'm told clothes and toiletries take priority. So any gaming I get to do has to be transportable. My recent 5 Parsecs From Home games have looked like this:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/bc8cd1e79af8436c9f5b69f6789c5105/148ce0947dd3f3fc-0d/s2048x3072/7efeb88c7a4b8303e1f80b58733b85d6fff09ad1.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/bc8cd1e79af8436c9f5b69f6789c5105/148ce0947dd3f3fc-0d/s2048x3072/7efeb88c7a4b8303e1f80b58733b85d6fff09ad1.jpg)(https://64.media.tumblr.com/645442469ca92b136cc9389f4e5f8835/148ce0947dd3f3fc-a7/s2048x3072/e91470fdf46ee0acfe29f0562a341306e38a5583.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/645442469ca92b136cc9389f4e5f8835/148ce0947dd3f3fc-a7/s2048x3072/e91470fdf46ee0acfe29f0562a341306e38a5583.jpg)
Fun enough, but it doesn't scratch the tactile itch.
So I've been working on this artist box, replacing the plastic inserts with something far more useful. Both 'lids' of the box got a different terrain with the hope that they'd be relatively reskinnable for a variety of fights and locations. The outdoorsy side hasn't worked out quite so well on that front - it's ended up with a few too many specialist objects - but I'm happy with the labyrinthine corridor side. It was roughly based on some of the Traveller geomorphs (http://travellerrpgblog.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-starship-geomorphs-book-if-finally.html), with a few extra doors and pathways added to avoid too many unused dead ends.
Had to limit the height of pretty much everything to less than 2cm so as to allow the box to close comfortably for safe transport, which happily works pretty well for 15mm. I'd been holding on to this and another box for ages, but never felt able to come up with anything satisfactory for the 28mm collections.
Each map measures around 35x28cm.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/687a37572eb01555e8d4003bbd77ac83/e8535002b80cbd57-c4/s2048x3072/6ac4a5ef01c567df098b890a83f3538a80110161.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/687a37572eb01555e8d4003bbd77ac83/e8535002b80cbd57-c4/s2048x3072/6ac4a5ef01c567df098b890a83f3538a80110161.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/9db0376705c2aff685709ab01fa93b58/e8535002b80cbd57-cc/s2048x3072/80f171edd2ab8138880958e46e85632f9fdde03a.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/9db0376705c2aff685709ab01fa93b58/e8535002b80cbd57-cc/s2048x3072/80f171edd2ab8138880958e46e85632f9fdde03a.jpg)
It's the first time I've constructed a fixed-piece board, so there have been some lessons learnt. I started with the room flooring, tracing round some makeshift stencils (assorted sprues cobbled together) on to EVA foam and was quite happy with the look, but as I added more and more scrap and bits to spruce up the rooms, the less happy I became with it - it's a bit of a clash of impressionist and fine detail, especially comparing the flooring in the rooms and corridors.
It's also apparent that I didn't use enough strong glue on the foam, and that two layers of PVA doesn't do much to seal it. Nor does PVA work much layered over a poor man's substitute texturing material of baking powder! I quickly realised this after a grey primer.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/08f0979c8caa6bd78584abf690da74df/d14dbefe4ee112f1-7e/s2048x3072/5d43d4705552738de3bb8bb0bd291a25ea312207.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/08f0979c8caa6bd78584abf690da74df/d14dbefe4ee112f1-7e/s2048x3072/5d43d4705552738de3bb8bb0bd291a25ea312207.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/1937eddf620096bf4ccaaff9b8783bb1/d14dbefe4ee112f1-a8/s2048x3072/b06fb42f2ae0b8c4d5271c10049339ef33607306.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/1937eddf620096bf4ccaaff9b8783bb1/d14dbefe4ee112f1-a8/s2048x3072/b06fb42f2ae0b8c4d5271c10049339ef33607306.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/99dc7b0b7d2b32b162193cfe6a29c0bc/d14dbefe4ee112f1-0d/s2048x3072/e08f0839ca56b526871dc8766d311bfd58ff2483.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/99dc7b0b7d2b32b162193cfe6a29c0bc/d14dbefe4ee112f1-0d/s2048x3072/e08f0839ca56b526871dc8766d311bfd58ff2483.jpg)
Fortunately, I've managed, with a combination of pins and weights, to get the floors back to a more or less flat state, and found some old clear lacquer which has encased the worst of the loose baking powder.
It's now got a black undercoat, and it's time to put some of the many tutorials I've been watching into practice!
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/ac74a045593bdbc10ab6194beccc55e1/d14dbefe4ee112f1-e9/s2048x3072/af3d1c94455bd4097447c2753e3fb32291e16389.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/ac74a045593bdbc10ab6194beccc55e1/d14dbefe4ee112f1-e9/s2048x3072/af3d1c94455bd4097447c2753e3fb32291e16389.jpg)
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Wow! That looks great and what a great idea for traveling!
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Nice work, :D :D :D
This could also satisfy the itch.. lovely work by stroezie in 6mm !!!! ( sigh , another project :( )
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=89728.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=89728.0)
Z
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I wish I could come up with a portable version of this:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=124881.0
Dan
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I wish I could come up with a portable version of this:
Try looking at things like sewing boxes.
I'm sure I have seen some that have shallow drawers.
You could then build a section into each drawer.
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Thanks all!
This could also satisfy the itch.. lovely work by stroezie in 6mm !!!! ( sigh , another project :( )
Haven't acted upon the idea, but I have wondered about using drinks coasters to recreate some of the starship geomorphs. We've also a fair few mdf shapes for Mrs Doodler's occasional foray into pyrography, but coasters (though harder to find uniform sizes) would be less prone to warping - something I'm all the more conscious of after been caught out by the EVA foam earlier!
I wish I could come up with a portable version of this:
How portable do you mean? Handheld / rucksack? Would something like this work?
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/d06cbed10758824f16023a889ad7413a/ff2dc81e11f9206f-ec/s2048x3072/f800f5c4cc8bf7fbf14a6685a79f05c8808e5c31.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/d06cbed10758824f16023a889ad7413a/ff2dc81e11f9206f-ec/s2048x3072/f800f5c4cc8bf7fbf14a6685a79f05c8808e5c31.jpg)
The trays aren't enough for a whole board, but are well-sized for a room. If you were happy with doorways not being open (mainly an issue for easy judgement of line of sight), you could use them as geomorphs. You could even have clip on doors like these (https://youtu.be/oz1eKIdEqxA?t=738) which a) add a bit of flexibility since you can place doors wherever and b) hold the rooms together.
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Excellent suggestions, guys! Thanks.
Dan
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I don't travel very much since I have small farm animals to take care of. However, having a travel gaming kit sound rather nice to have just for the fun of it.
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That clip on idea looks great.
Thanks for sharing.
Z
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I don't travel very much since I have small farm animals to take care of. However, having a travel gaming kit sound rather nice to have just for the fun of it.
It does simplify storage!
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Finally managed to finish this travel gaming case (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=134846.msg1725919#msg1725919). Seems that I still find terrain a slog to paint, even in 15mm. Had the handy deadline of an upcoming holiday to spur me into action, so here's hoping it serves its purpose well.
Alas, the room floors for the interior side really don't match the rest of the scenery. Definite lessons learned on that front. I've got a few more similar cases to work on (very useful charity shop round the corner) but in future I may try and just work on one half at a time - it was quite a struggle to do effectively two boards at the same time at my rate of paint application.
Still, going away for a week with the in-laws, and I'll be packing my Pulp Alley and 5 Parsecs From Home books. Even if I can't entice anyone else to play, I should be able to grab some quiet moments for solo games.
Click on any of the images to embiggen them.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/885e61d1cf6cc18065598826704bc11b/312f8ec4cebd71fe-a1/s2048x3072/307a9177691ce6f25e928f35a430c0bd3914e589.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/885e61d1cf6cc18065598826704bc11b/312f8ec4cebd71fe-a1/s2048x3072/307a9177691ce6f25e928f35a430c0bd3914e589.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/4b0ce7b802a50ebd0c4d775a613ae093/312f8ec4cebd71fe-af/s2048x3072/d71a55dae70e1f6eb52c28eac8914d2ad0a95311.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/4b0ce7b802a50ebd0c4d775a613ae093/312f8ec4cebd71fe-af/s2048x3072/d71a55dae70e1f6eb52c28eac8914d2ad0a95311.jpg)(https://64.media.tumblr.com/885e61d1cf6cc18065598826704bc11b/312f8ec4cebd71fe-a1/s2048x3072/307a9177691ce6f25e928f35a430c0bd3914e589.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/885e61d1cf6cc18065598826704bc11b/312f8ec4cebd71fe-a1/s2048x3072/307a9177691ce6f25e928f35a430c0bd3914e589.jpg)
And a few shots with some minis for scale:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/6ec462ce65c007c25dfad7b602d6a97e/df8b2f9edf4850fd-2d/s2048x3072/e274e539d9dae56e36d77df7ceb303e88110b9eb.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/6ec462ce65c007c25dfad7b602d6a97e/df8b2f9edf4850fd-2d/s2048x3072/e274e539d9dae56e36d77df7ceb303e88110b9eb.jpg)
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Lovely work, my friend.
Hope you get time to use them .. that would be a Spacehulk in 6/10mm.
and a case like that is not difficult to build, either. ( and I should have one already laying around somewhere )
I started to experiment 3d printing in 10mm so yours is another possible venue in that scale.
Thanks for sharing
Z
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This is simply amazing! Cool stuff!
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That came absolutely great! I can see many hours of gaming with that setup when out a town. Great Job Doodler!
Just a tip for Highlighting figures, object and terrain is you can use Makeup brushes they are really soft and do a great job of highlighting.
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.wQFAr5aN1Gr5IirTTUAhigHaHa?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)
Now, the color and style of the brushes and handles is totally up to you, but if no one is going to see them, run with it! lol lol lol
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Very cool - Stargrave in 15mm?
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Thanks, folks
Just a tip for Highlighting figures, object and terrain is you can use Makeup brushes they are really soft and do a great job of highlighting.
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Now, the color and style of the brushes and handles is totally up to you, but if no one is going to see them, run with it! lol lol lol
I got me some lovely pink ones - Mrs Doodler has already commandeered the tin. Unfortunately they took a bit of a battering doing this piece. Most of the browns and greys were done using interior decorating paint samples, and they are not kind to bristles!
Very cool - Stargrave in 15mm?
Most of my gaming is solo, so 5 Parsecs from Home and Pulp Alley are my rules rulesets of choice at the moment. If I can find a local gamer I'd be happy diving into Stargrave, though my preferences are for a bit more grounded sci fi. Stargrave strikes me as being more on the heroic side of things with its focus on the captain and his first mate.
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Over the past couple years, I’ve gotten more and more into 15mm skirmish gaming. The scale allows for nice detail, and the cost allows for a wide variety of small collections. Happily at 71, I can still do a pretty decent job painting them, wearing just strong reading glasses.
Once I can sell the collection I have posted, 15mm scifi is the next project.
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ID
This project looks amazing! I am taking lots of notes for sure.
So what‘s next? An expansion terrain set? Or a full battle report, with lots and lots of pics to go along with it? :)
Dan
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Over the past couple years, I’ve gotten more and more into 15mm skirmish gaming. The scale allows for nice detail, and the cost allows for a wide variety of small collections. Happily at 71, I can still do a pretty decent job painting them, wearing just strong reading glasses.
Once I can sell the collection I have posted, 15mm scifi is the next project.
I look forward to it! Yeah, I'm pondering what to do with all my current 28mm stuff. Don't want to keep it out of adherence to the sunk cost, but it seems a shame to get rid of it when there's a chance I'll get back into it might need to assess how discerning this 'just in case' habit is.
This project looks amazing! I am taking lots of notes for sure.
So what‘s next? An expansion terrain set? Or a full battle report, with lots and lots of pics to go along with it? :)
I've just stuck up a slightly more descriptive post on my blog, should that be of interest for more info.
I admit to have already invested this month's budget in some cable trunking, large cable ties and card boxes - got some ideas for quick 'n' easy space station dungeonesque tiles.
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I got me some lovely pink ones - Mrs Doodler has already commandeered the tin. Unfortunately they took a bit of a battering doing this piece. Most of the browns and greys were done using interior decorating paint samples, and they are not kind to bristles!
Craft Acrylic are far gentler on them, rather than house indoor acrylic paints. It is nice that you can get them at any dollar store for cheap, if you wreak them.
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That travel terrain looks quite nice. Well done!
Does anyone have a favorite brand of makeup brushes? I have used some but they have the irritating habit of losing clumps of bristles.
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Andrew
I just bought a cheap set on Amazon. I should know how good they are a little later next week when I try them on a terrain project.
Dan
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Andrew
I just bought a cheap set on Amazon. I should know how good they are a little later next week when I try them on a terrain project.
Dan
Awesome. Hope (for both of our sakes) that they work well! My last set were dollar store purchases, so lord knows I am not out any real money there.
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Think I need to face up to the fact that it's the worker, not the tools. Can't quite tread the line between too much or too little paint. We practice on with these blameless tools (https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0919MBR39/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)...
But these don't need to look great - they just need to break footpaths and line of sight. They're just going to be transported round roughly in a bag, so not really worthy of spending too much time on.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c68978ad836015b1f80e2a01dbdcc331/2134d5f132dd8093-ff/s2048x3072/441706069377dfde9bb08c2bd0f8743ee98ad15c.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/c68978ad836015b1f80e2a01dbdcc331/2134d5f132dd8093-ff/s2048x3072/441706069377dfde9bb08c2bd0f8743ee98ad15c.jpg)
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Those look great! Really nice work!
Maybe a light dry brushing of a rusty brown on some of the corners could help.
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Oh, I don't know, I think those look quite good. I'd be happy with the outcome that you achieved.
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I did try a bit of extra brown and orange on a test piece, but it just came over all faecal. I will try again on the next batch.
In the meantime, some refuse piles made from bin bag scraps, surplus putty and dulled down with the dregs of a paint sample pot:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/fe3b278f6c16bde0e6d5a7ea85ab3cdd/f01c60eed82473d9-33/s2048x3072/04dbcb5d0f54e5f20c0c6c35f0c889bedc205f9b.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/fe3b278f6c16bde0e6d5a7ea85ab3cdd/f01c60eed82473d9-33/s2048x3072/04dbcb5d0f54e5f20c0c6c35f0c889bedc205f9b.jpg)
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In the meantime, some refuse piles made from bin bag scraps, surplus putty and dulled down with the dregs of a paint sample pot:
They look like... RUBBISH !!! Excellent job mate. :D
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Those look great and really good for street clutter, could also be great for a ship's recycle center.
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Thanks, both - if only all terrain were so quick and easy.
They look like... RUBBISH !!!
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmicait.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fericmorecambe.gif&f=1&nofb=1)
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Been distracted by terrain of late (more upcoming), so here's a unit of Sharpe-inspired 'red' shirts for when I want a bit of variety in uniformed opponents for 5 Parsecs from Home.
Got an as yet unpainted copy of each of these, so pondering what to do with them. Maybe a redcoat allied platoon.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/88117c85f1a1d6864b6e2641def168ad/b18b0666cbf4a019-58/s2048x3072/83b8b4564a1b21915cdc5fbeda61ec42712dc816.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/88117c85f1a1d6864b6e2641def168ad/b18b0666cbf4a019-58/s2048x3072/83b8b4564a1b21915cdc5fbeda61ec42712dc816.jpg)
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Oh yeah, you can never have enough "Red Shirts" around! They aways lead to a clue as to what maybe going on or an area to avoid.
Have two teams could be fun as well, the two teams could be on each side of the board having a firefight between them, and your team's objective is on the other side of the board from you.
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c68978ad836015b1f80e2a01dbdcc331/2134d5f132dd8093-ff/s2048x3072/441706069377dfde9bb08c2bd0f8743ee98ad15c.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/c68978ad836015b1f80e2a01dbdcc331/2134d5f132dd8093-ff/s2048x3072/441706069377dfde9bb08c2bd0f8743ee98ad15c.jpg)
Doodler
Who makes that figure with the rifle? Thanks.
Dan
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Doodler
Who makes that figure with the rifle? Thanks.
Dan
It's a GZG Ravager:-
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/human-characters-and-misc-aliens/sg15-x07.html (https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/human-characters-and-misc-aliens/sg15-x07.html)
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Lovely thread, a great read!
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Cheers, Ockman! I found your thread truly inspirational
It's a GZG Ravager:-
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/human-characters-and-misc-aliens/sg15-x07.html (https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/human-characters-and-misc-aliens/sg15-x07.html)
That's the one. Contemplating a beanie or something for his doppleganger in the set.
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I like my terrain to be quick, cheap and easy. Apart from finding it hard to saw at right angles, these were a doddle to throw together. The main body comes from cable trunking, which cost less than £5 for two meters. Some cable ties over nylon mesh for the floor, and cable tie holders threaded with electrical cable for the walls.
They took one evening's worth of hobbying to construct, and several weeks of procrastinating to paint. Expendable pieces of terrain which should be able to take a bit of knocking about.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f2a27ca6560524ec2579dce4056af5a5/5a2afc09550198c9-fd/s2048x3072/1961de96a59bb7be925f8ced982edf673eaeada0.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/f2a27ca6560524ec2579dce4056af5a5/5a2afc09550198c9-fd/s2048x3072/1961de96a59bb7be925f8ced982edf673eaeada0.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/9708da6c05ef69a88d88c966def7845f/5a2afc09550198c9-ae/s2048x3072/5861520d48bac6da1e2bbf87d00c34aaee640eef.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/9708da6c05ef69a88d88c966def7845f/5a2afc09550198c9-ae/s2048x3072/5861520d48bac6da1e2bbf87d00c34aaee640eef.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3cc8e541246b3c15f554b91485bb1c0/5a2afc09550198c9-b1/s2048x3072/a5837ade33b098a5bbace722c2c10081769058b2.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3cc8e541246b3c15f554b91485bb1c0/5a2afc09550198c9-b1/s2048x3072/a5837ade33b098a5bbace722c2c10081769058b2.jpg)
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Nice, simple & functional.... good job
and several weeks of procrastinating to paint
The bane of all gamers ;D ;D ;D
Z
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Those do look great. Nice work. You need a sawing jig. Pretty cheap and easy to obtain. That, plus a razor saw, would make short work of some 90-degree corners and maybe even some 4-way junctions.
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Ugh, I guess I could actually get the right tools for the job... lol
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Those corridors are really nice!
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Thanks, Ockman! Alas, I've gone off on a tangent while making the rooms and am now on a bit more of a coaster rollercoaster. Here's the first prototype:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/a535096310c9934892d6a976e36ecf28/8db7383c2fe715a5-63/s2048x3072/1709a1b6cdddca2677539893beda0a8dd568ba3a.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/a535096310c9934892d6a976e36ecf28/8db7383c2fe715a5-63/s2048x3072/1709a1b6cdddca2677539893beda0a8dd568ba3a.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/02ae59d324d217162c6663eef8b4b2cc/8db7383c2fe715a5-4a/s2048x3072/95462afde7c7f4ceaf2f88dada5501818d41fdcf.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/02ae59d324d217162c6663eef8b4b2cc/8db7383c2fe715a5-4a/s2048x3072/95462afde7c7f4ceaf2f88dada5501818d41fdcf.jpg)
Putting War Monkey's panel guide into practice!
Not sure what to do about the floor. Almost tempted to leave it plain, both through a wariness of making the whole piece a bit too busy and a lifelong laziness. There's also the issue of the coasters not all being quite the precise size that they are advertised as being (get what you pay for when you skimp of cost, I suppose) so the tiles are likely not going to completely line up. So too patterned a floor will look off when lined up with each other, not to mention the few millimetres' gap between them if two patterned walls are pushed against each other.
The pencilled grid was just there for purposes of placing the jenga blocks.
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Nice work , looking good
Why not print the floors, easier, faster & saves you time on painting.
I would also consider moving the walls 1 square to the inside on some of them, otherwise you will have 2 walls butted against each other. Just waste space.
Z
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I hadn't considered printing. Do you have any thoughts on how to avoid there being too much of a contrast between printed quality and painted terrain? I've not seen them side by side before.
With a view to modularity, I'm not too worried about two walls being lined up alongside each other. It allows the flexibility of turning a corridor into a small nook or room. It's why I overcame that lifelong laziness to panel up the exterior wall surfaces!
I'm essentially aiming for a homemade 15mm version of ttcombat's dungeon tiles:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0965/1274/products/Deluxe_Dungeon_2.png?v=1571767837) (https://ttcombat.com/collections/fantasy-realms/products/deluxe-dungeon-set)
Lots of different configurations, and I've found them to be very handy for storing away efficiently. That's the primary reason for going for jenga blocks for the walls - they're literally made for stacking.
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Now that is a nice setup.
Printing & painting are difficult or would take a lot of time/blending to compare as they are different media ( though you might get away with it by choosing RAL code colours when you make up the picture & then choose the corresponding colour when painting ... as I said it will take time) It is possible though.
On the other hand you can stick printed paper to the walls also...
Look here. You might something to inspire you or which you can use. I tried to find the ones that should help but there is so much more.....
these are printed. Look up Bugbait & Tommygun, both have great inspirational stuff.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AQH-BWB-v7M/Wn9tyqtbzPI/AAAAAAAAMZU/dNodzCfdUrU6quX3-k0p9ZwvwegjdBA9wCEwYBhgL/s1600/Nc%2Bfloors%2B1.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1bfTa8nE7V8/Vcsn3FrCS3I/AAAAAAAADpY/wzZz5qGR4y4/s1600/Sh1.jpg)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2017/04/hand-made-gaming-boards.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2017/04/hand-made-gaming-boards.html)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2017/11/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2017/11/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board.html)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2019/12/single-hex-terrain-6-to-25mm.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2019/12/single-hex-terrain-6-to-25mm.html)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2018/04/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board-part.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2018/04/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board-part.html)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2018/03/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board-part_18.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2018/03/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board-part_18.html)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2018/03/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board-part.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2018/03/15mm-to-28mm-necromunda-game-board-part.html)
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2015/08/space-hulk-terrain.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2015/08/space-hulk-terrain.html)
Enjoy
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That is a great looking tile Doodler. Those panels on the walls look great too!
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Admittedly only for a few small ruined corridor sections,
crashed ship scenery, but I used the insides of envelopes.
There are some nice patterns available. As I didn't need
a lot I just used letters/envelopes that came in the post,
but if you wanted to do whole corridor sections, then
simply buy a pack or two of new envelopes. Just make sure
you like the inside pattern. lol
I pasted mine onto thick card &/or foam board. Thin washes
of paint/ink followed by some 'gubbins' (pipework etc).
It looked passible & was very cheap. :D
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Look here. You might something to inspire you or which you can use. I tried to find the ones that should help but there is so much more.....
these are printed. Look up Bugbait & Tommygun, both have great inspirational stuff.
Thanks for these - some great inspiration there! Saved them down into the quickly-filling USB of Possibilities.
I've struggled to find anything from Bugbait. Is there a blog of some sorts with a different name?
Admittedly only for a few small ruined corridor sections,
crashed ship scenery, but I used the insides of envelopes.
There are some nice patterns available. As I didn't need
a lot I just used letters/envelopes that came in the post,
but if you wanted to do whole corridor sections, then
simply buy a pack or two of new envelopes.
This is an intriguing idea! Do the thin washes mean there's a slightly texture to them?
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This is an intriguing idea! Do the thin washes mean there's a slightly texture to them?
No real texture, but when I (accidentally) applied to much 'wash' the paper buckled. Looked
good on the ruined sections. With the foam-board sections pipework was achieved with
bent paperclips. I found the coloured ones especially useful.
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I like my terrain to be quick, cheap and easy. Apart from finding it hard to saw at right angles, these were a doddle to throw together. The main body comes from cable trunking, which cost less than £5 for two meters. Some cable ties over nylon mesh for the floor, and cable tie holders threaded with electrical cable for the walls.
They took one evening's worth of hobbying to construct, and several weeks of procrastinating to paint. Expendable pieces of terrain which should be able to take a bit of knocking about.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f2a27ca6560524ec2579dce4056af5a5/5a2afc09550198c9-fd/s2048x3072/1961de96a59bb7be925f8ced982edf673eaeada0.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/f2a27ca6560524ec2579dce4056af5a5/5a2afc09550198c9-fd/s2048x3072/1961de96a59bb7be925f8ced982edf673eaeada0.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/9708da6c05ef69a88d88c966def7845f/5a2afc09550198c9-ae/s2048x3072/5861520d48bac6da1e2bbf87d00c34aaee640eef.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/9708da6c05ef69a88d88c966def7845f/5a2afc09550198c9-ae/s2048x3072/5861520d48bac6da1e2bbf87d00c34aaee640eef.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3cc8e541246b3c15f554b91485bb1c0/5a2afc09550198c9-b1/s2048x3072/a5837ade33b098a5bbace722c2c10081769058b2.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3cc8e541246b3c15f554b91485bb1c0/5a2afc09550198c9-b1/s2048x3072/a5837ade33b098a5bbace722c2c10081769058b2.jpg)
What’s a cable tie holder? Thanks
Dan
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No real texture, but when I (accidentally) applied to much 'wash' the paper buckled. Looked
good on the ruined sections. With the foam-board sections pipework was achieved with
bent paperclips. I found the coloured ones especially useful.
Nice, I'll keep an eye out. Don't think I've bought any envelopes since courting Mrs Doodler, but we certainly a fair number of those threatening TV licence letters through the post. Here's hoping they have some use after all!
What’s a cable tie holder? Thanks
I think I've seen them referred to as zip tie mounts as well, little rungs to slip the relevant tie through. These are the ones I bought (https://www.screwfix.com/p/cable-tie-base-black-20-x-19mm-100-pack/93380). And, while I'm on the site, here's the trunking as well (https://www.screwfix.com/p/tower-upvc-white-mini-trunking-38mm-x-25mm-x-2m/95463).
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You could at one location, or another is to install some extra pipes vertically. One idea is to use some striped solid copper wiring and use the insulator as pipe connections.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jGCHQuXCoOU/U3G4IbR7mKI/AAAAAAAAAf0/xP1v3FtaSMA/s1600/102_0590.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6bVL0EhDpyc/U3G4jewx0aI/AAAAAAAAAgE/3oySBR4ufqE/s1600/102_0600.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wbJzxwFdbU4/U3G4P535rNI/AAAAAAAAAf8/YgqF_EFbqT8/s1600/102_0596.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-77-3ju7KoNk/U3G4qVVBYaI/AAAAAAAAAgM/inYrjgIgqXw/s1600/102_0601.jpg)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3JA3wOk-oIM/U3G4yj3pRBI/AAAAAAAAAgU/VlAXUZnf7UA/s1600/102_0603.jpg)
Just my two cents, hope it is useful.
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Welcome my friend,
reI've struggled to find anything from Bugbait. Is there a blog of some sorts with a different name?
I honestly do not know, it has been quite some time since I saw anything of his, I do have some of his stuff from way back for 32mm Wh40k/ Infinity.
Those Space hulk corridors are his and they look superb when printed on a laser colour printer.
WM
that is a nice idea, Lazy Forger use different gauges of soldering wire also to good effect , so that is another venue.
Another very good source is busted PC motherboards as they have a ton of lovely stuff on them. The problem is to remove all the soldering.
I found that filing the pointy bits flat with a bastard file then hitting them with my wife's mini gas kitchen torch ( the one used to make creme brulee
https://www.amazon.com/Blow-Torch-Refillable-Professional-Adjustable/dp/B01G3MZWBU (https://www.amazon.com/Blow-Torch-Refillable-Professional-Adjustable/dp/B01G3MZWBU) .. ssshhh ;) ;) )
& then pressing them down quickly with a flat scraper ( usually ) dislodges them. Just don't burn the board as it is nasty smelling & toxic.
Hope this helps
Z
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You could at one location, or another is to install some extra pipes vertically. One idea is to use some striped solid copper wiring and use the insulator as pipe connections.
Hmm, I wonder if something similar could be done with plastic-coated paper clips. I'm sure I've got some of those lying around somewhere.
Another very good source is busted PC motherboards as they have a ton of lovely stuff on them. The problem is to remove all the soldering.
I found that filing the pointy bits flat with a bastard file then hitting them with my wife's mini gas kitchen torch ( the one used to make creme brulee
I've been having fun with the leftover circuitry from pile of keyboards, though I hadn't thought to tackle them with a mini blowtorch! We've certainly got one of those about the place for the essential Baked Alaska baking.
I found that sticking them into the jenga pieces and little wooden cubes worked - the wood is soft enough that the spiky bits push into it, and ends up giving some extra grip.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/e12ee064d448be94b89f87fea40bfaf7/0134c9d734bba370-a9/s2048x3072/974a6caefbe49e0b63cfe1c1c9071760ef8fafab.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/e12ee064d448be94b89f87fea40bfaf7/0134c9d734bba370-a9/s2048x3072/974a6caefbe49e0b63cfe1c1c9071760ef8fafab.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7c6af48cfbfad6ed229609e4166b56b6/0134c9d734bba370-a7/s2048x3072/1e9aa9ca2be3c93d25be4e0e4369826f66b3a9dc.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/7c6af48cfbfad6ed229609e4166b56b6/0134c9d734bba370-a7/s2048x3072/1e9aa9ca2be3c93d25be4e0e4369826f66b3a9dc.jpg)
I cast some with oyumaru, milliput and green stuff. The circuitry detail seems to hold well enough:
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/84b33281406a3c01a7184541d08d5231/0134c9d734bba370-ee/s2048x3072/254489191385b79cbb75eb8cf27a6ed4ed74a302.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/84b33281406a3c01a7184541d08d5231/0134c9d734bba370-ee/s2048x3072/254489191385b79cbb75eb8cf27a6ed4ed74a302.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/bb0db98474d62de1c03a2a618ff3c24a/0134c9d734bba370-30/s2048x3072/a890c9b91d1b4aca11c5087dc730b86f39191499.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/bb0db98474d62de1c03a2a618ff3c24a/0134c9d734bba370-30/s2048x3072/a890c9b91d1b4aca11c5087dc730b86f39191499.jpg)
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Those are awesome! Why haven't I thought of it, I have a buddy who has a few circuit boards laying around I'll have to see if he is willing to part with them.
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Great idea on using circuit boards for the consoles.They work really well.
I also like War Monkey's pipe post too.Very inspirational all round.
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Those push mold terminals turned out well. The pipe tutorial was great too. I truly had never even thought of that before. Duh!
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Welcome, a mini blow torch has lots of uses.
Now those came out nice indeed.
That hadn't come to mind. Thank for sharing.
I was planning to use the best panels ( the board pieces with the most little electronics devices ) for scifi walls.
The main problem with any electronic circuit boards is that they are made of toxic materials & can be sharp also,
so care must be taken when cutting, sanding or heating them.
Z
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Wow. That looks way better than my preliminary Lego idea (WIP):
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4239/34860709850_ffd1cab12e_4k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/803/39077491350_25a2b15ede_4k.jpg)
More here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/9593487@N07/albums/72157670627079974
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=455928
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=456031
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=124746.msg1572453#msg1572453
Dan
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Neat! And much better for a cleaner, uniform concept of space. Were these pilfered from an offspring's toybox? Alas, I'm not sure I can find an inexpensive source for lego products...
More progress on the tiles. Bit of trial and error, but I think I've got a set up which allows them to go together relatively seamlessly. Going to need at least nine altogether, and have got less than a fortnight to construct and paint them before the next holiday. Need to keep a look out for a suitable container too.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/bb4c56328f44f6b6ead17dc7efd64698/aace68de018ac4eb-17/s2048x3072/617c812abbd25ad0bfa1de1d3c7bda8d85c6d196.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/bb4c56328f44f6b6ead17dc7efd64698/aace68de018ac4eb-17/s2048x3072/617c812abbd25ad0bfa1de1d3c7bda8d85c6d196.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/48183b9ffb492d5417ee93ccfd2dcf54/aace68de018ac4eb-85/s2048x3072/8f17b2af0afadfd8b9f993dcf2e04dd603cae42e.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/48183b9ffb492d5417ee93ccfd2dcf54/aace68de018ac4eb-85/s2048x3072/8f17b2af0afadfd8b9f993dcf2e04dd603cae42e.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/e778b59f54882e6b91c053f2bf342bce/aace68de018ac4eb-bf/s2048x3072/d6cd1f5cc7759533a311abd60710286f3e094968.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/e778b59f54882e6b91c053f2bf342bce/aace68de018ac4eb-bf/s2048x3072/d6cd1f5cc7759533a311abd60710286f3e094968.jpg)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/02a5b7e53ec87f10cf85037d6de99123/aace68de018ac4eb-77/s2048x3072/d45caa2045d5c71b4135b467b4f355e9ee113218.jpg) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/02a5b7e53ec87f10cf85037d6de99123/aace68de018ac4eb-77/s2048x3072/d45caa2045d5c71b4135b467b4f355e9ee113218.jpg)
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Those are looking really good!
They remind me of Tiny Solitary Soldiers Blog which has been down for ages now however, you can find it at Wayback Machine. Here is the link. He had many more great ideas on this blog I suggest giving it a look some great inspirations there.
http://web.archive.org/web/20190721054735/http://tinysolitarysoldiers.blogspot.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20190721054735/http://tinysolitarysoldiers.blogspot.com/)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20190720233610im_/http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ubHyNHIQfA/VAL1oNCFXVI/AAAAAAAABxw/nCKKhqeecrY/s1600/IMG_3736.JPG)
The tiles were made of 6x6 inch MDF, foam core board and cork. I don't know what tile size you are using however I am sure that you could match those up to yours
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Agreed, those look nice. The panel detail is lovely. Something I feel like I almost always fail to pull off well.
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What you've got so far looks good. This was my effort at something similar for 28mm, maybe it'll be of use to you. :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112097.0
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What you've got so far looks good. This was my effort at something similar for 28mm, maybe it'll be of use to you. :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112097.0
Those Tiles turned out Great!
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Neat! And much better for a cleaner, uniform concept of space. Were these pilfered from an offspring's toybox? Alas, I'm not sure I can find an inexpensive source for lego products...
LOL. No, i get them all dirt-cheap here:
Brick Owl
https://www.brickowl.com/
Hope it helps.
Dan
PS. Let me know if you need any links to the specific pieces I used.
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Our local Wilco store sells loose Lego. Fill a tub from their
display. The last time I stocked up on wheels & other useful
bits. You can get quite a lot for a few quid, especially if it is
small bits you are after.
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Thanks all, some great food for thought here. I'd missed those Tiny Solitary Soldier tiles - evidently my Wayback research wasn't as thorough as I'd thought!
What you've got so far looks good. This was my effort at something similar for 28mm, maybe it'll be of use to you. :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=112097.0
Thanks! I was pondering whether it would be better to give the tiles more defined roles (barracks, storeroom, etc) but it's good to see that generic laid out tiles with scatter terrain works just as well. I should have followed a similar policy of holding off other terrain pieces in the meantime - I flit back and forth far too easily.
Dan
PS. Let me know if you need any links to the specific pieces I used.
Such links would be mightily appreciated as a starting point - I can see that place becoming something of a rabbit hole to fall into!
Our local Wilco store sells loose Lego. Fill a tub from their
display. The last time I stocked up on wheels & other useful
bits. You can get quite a lot for a few quid, especially if it is
small bits you are after.
I'll have to keep an eye out for those.
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I'm always grappling with the question of whether it is better to build specific or generic (beds glued in place or not) and I think I'm about 50/50 on the question. I like the flexibility of an empty room, but then I also want there to be particular set pieces that have a look to them. When I did my starship tiles I made sure that bridge layouts were set. Computers and such are glued in place, that bridge design is what it is from here until the end of time, and that is ok by me! Engine rooms are the same. Everything else in between can be configured using scatter.
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I'm always grappling with the question of whether it is better to build specific or generic (beds glued in place or not) and I think I'm about 50/50 on the question. I like the flexibility of an empty room, but then I also want there to be particular set pieces that have a look to them. When I did my starship tiles I made sure that bridge layouts were set. Computers and such are glued in place, that bridge design is what it is from here until the end of time, and that is ok by me! Engine rooms are the same. Everything else in between can be configured using scatter.
I say "No" and just use drop in terrain unless you are doing something special, Like my Long Range Patrol Fighter.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rllb-K63yGU/YQ2SDiZCKoI/AAAAAAAACqA/i3QlmRwgfCIGshmt4yTqL70jUVL_Fe-7wCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/P1010953.JPG)
Other than that, leave it clean. In this game it could be a storage room next time its a stateroom next time its a computer room. You could build drop ins using two walls and base that have these setups that fit those rooms then it is just drop and play. Each game would be different in so many ways then.
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WM
That toilet looks awesome! I’m glad you left it empty. :)
Dan
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Yeah, I generally fall into the camp of flexibility and modularity, but have just finished painting this piece which goes is very much of the opposite movement.
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I really like the Haunted Manor scenario from Pulp Alley's Tomb of the Serpent campaign, and since it's a rather compact map I was able to fit it on a 15x15cm coaster, having translated all inches to centimetres. Just reskinned it as an abandoned research station of some sort, and reinterpreted what the various entry points and places of significance could be.
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Happened to have a few 350gsm flyers lying around from work so used those for the walls, and populated the rest of it mostly with old electrical doodads. In addition to the cast monitors, it turns out the end of an ethernet cable makes quite a nice terminal for 15mm. Even managed to fit in a scrabble piece for a shaft down into the depths.
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I've got a few more of these coaster tiles, so hope to do put together some modular maps - four together should make for a decently sized board, perhaps not quite as full as this particular one.
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That is brilliant!
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Doodler
The tile looks great! If you going to have a small building that is a special purpose building, an outpost for example may be standard design, standard equipment and standard number of personnel assigned.
It could also be a standard guarded entrance point to an underground facility.
A standard surveyors station.
I mean in a galaxy so large not everyone or government is going to design each and every individual post there is going to be a standard floor plan to cut cost and time.
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WM
That toilet looks awesome! I’m glad you left it empty. :)
Dan
Dan
Remember... In Space No One can Hear You..... Strain :-X Oh, Sweet Jesus! What the hell did I eat! (grown) OMG! I'm not trying to drop a hard shell alien egg am I! (wails) Holy Crap when I finish dropping this clicker, (grunt)I'm going have to mark its location on the star charts as an asteroid hazard!!
lol lol lol lol
Doug
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You be crazy, my brother! lol
Dan
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Got the tiles done in time for the holiday, so have been enjoying some games of 5 Parsecs from Home based on a tunnel-ridden former mining colony.
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Just rotating the tiles 90° completely alters the possible routes across an adventure site, so assuming the struggling crew members don’t get too sick at the site of unending panelled corridors, these ten tiles should cover a fair few campaign turns. I started the crew off without a ship, so they’ve not much choice in the matter.
A quick prime, black basecoat, silver drybrush and blackish wash does mean that the tiles can look a bit samey, though covering the tops of the walls in black mitigates that a bit by making the different layouts a bit more distinct. Two of the tiles have a bit of colour by way of computer terminals to make possible objective markers stand out a bit.
Games so far have been played out on a 3x3 tile grid, though the higgledy piggledy floor panels mean the tiles can be laid offset each other for a slightly bigger battlefield.
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I made a last minute decision to glue some strips of EVA foam to the bottom of the tiles to stop them sliding around on the table tip and to cushion the tiles a bit when stacked upon each other. In hindsight, and possibly a job for the future, I should possibly have stuck some magnetic sheets to the undersides instead. They’d have a similar effect, and would open up the possibility of bringing some sheets to stick the tiles upon for a bit of a firmer grip during gameplay.
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The tiles all stack nicely, but I should have put some more thought into what sort of container they might fit into. Most things I had to hand were slightly too small or much too big. In the end I stuffed the extra space in a larger box with a spare t-shirt. I was spoilt by finding a perfectly sized box instantly when packing away my TTCombat dungeon tiles. These DIY ones might require a custom made container.
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ID
That looks absolutely amazing! And so versatile too.
Dan
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Those have come up really nicely.
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Very, very nice, I'm getting System Shock vibes :-*
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There is something about a neatly stacked, easily stored, and uniform terrain set that tickles the better aspects of my OCD lol. Case and point:
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Doodler
Those tiles are awesome! I hope to see some reports of the games you played using them!
CookAndrewB
Those being stackable appeal to my OCD as well.
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OCD? I’m glad I am not afflicted by that! LOL
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OCD? I’m glad I am not afflicted by that! LOL
lol lol lol lol lol
Always with the jokes Dan Careful that post could be taken down due to misleading information lol lol lol lol lol
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Lol. So true.
Dan
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Some Very Nice work there. Thanks for sharing.
Dan - OCD? What's that ? ( But I must admit everything looks nicer stacked neatly with the corners at 90 deg with a tolerance shift of +/- 0.5 mm ;))
WM - You are killing me , After reading your rather graphical description of vacating organic material into hard vacuum, I will think twice when I hear the word " Space Debris " :D :D :D :D
Deep Frozen hard Turdies can be a menace if they hit you at speed. ( I wonder what is done with organic waste on the present space station )
Joking apart, I would imagine there would be a special section on any ship /station for waste reclamation ( water being a precious resource ) ?
Or would you think it would simply be ejected into space ?. Because if there is it would become a a target for e.g. for pirates ( eg Drain the water tanks into their own ship, scenario )
Z
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Thanks, all! Mrs Doodler was disappointed to see all the vibrant pinks and reds disappearing beneath a grey primer. Might have to dip a toe into the cyberpunk waters to ensure the support for hobby-related hoarding continues.
There is something about a neatly stacked, easily stored, and uniform terrain set that tickles the better aspects of my OCD lol.
Those are great, and aesthetically pleasing in their packed state.
I've always felt it peculiar that OCD has to have disorder in the name. Seems it was thought up by the same people who thought it amusing to make it harder for those with stutters, lisps and roticism to name their respective conditions...
I hope to see some reports of the games you played using them!
Guess I'd better get onto that! Curse this remote keyboard for its temperamental SHIFT and A keys...
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Starting off a new 5 Parsecs From Home campaign on holiday with the newly finished sci fi dungeon tiles. Playing on Challenging difficulty – so should never have fewer than 3 opponents – with the supplement AI variable behaviours and deployments.
Also house ruling in the social events tables from WeaselTech for a bit of extra intermission flavour, and modifying the brawling so that it works more like the old Lord of the Rings SBG combat (namely, resolved at the end of the turn after everyone has done their movement and actions) to make charging in a little more viable in the face of gunfire.
Since I’ll be limited to the same sort of terrain for the first few campaign turns, I’ll be beginning with a ship-less crew of four; they’ll need to accomplished a fair few missions on the same planet before being able to bag themselves a ship. I'll probably increase the crew and battle size at an appropriate point in the future, assuming this little band lasts long enough.
Presenting our four plucky survivors from a starship escape pod left stranded on the planet of Bangoetxia:
Argider – adventure-seeking member of a lower megacity class (infantry laser, handgun)
Bittor – former gang member seeking fame (blast rifle, handgun)
Carmele – glory-hunting crew leader from a military outpost (plasma rifle, blade, screen generator)
Dornaka – technology-obsessed former member of a peaceful, high-tec colony (laser-sighted machine pistol, military rifle)
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Bangoetxia is a mining colony-turned-starport and slum with a sprawling-network of tunnels riddling the planet. The crew have no contacts – positive or negative – so will be very much starting from scratch with largely empty projects. They were able to salvage some reasonable long range firepower as they escaped their doomed vessel, but that won’t be much help in the gloomy abandoned passageways where prospective employers will surely send them.
While Bittor earned some more credits with his ‘unweighted’ dice, Argider and Dornaka found more ethically viable trades to grow the crew coffers. Carmele found a sector-wide job offer but, since there was no time limit upon it, they opted to follow up a lead for some data which could be downloaded from an inside an isolationist enclave.
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The crew advanced towards their target terminal. There was no sign of the anticipated political enthusiasts, despite the interlopers’ lack of discretion. Argider spotted a glint in a nearby pile of rubbish and had a rummage, holding aloft a piece of tat he boasted would fetch a whole credit on the market.
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They planned to have the ultratechnical Dornaka access the terminal, but a sudden onset of skittering revealed the possible reason for an absence of guards: a number of large gribble emerged from vents all around and descended upon the explorers. Captain Caremele unloaded her plasma rifle into one but behind her another bowled over Dornaka and ripped Argider apart.
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A flash of movement betrayed the presence of some isolationists nearby, and they caught the attention of one of the beasties. It charged towards one who’d crept too near.
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Using the distraction, Carmele spun round and blasted Argider’s killer while Bittor dashed for the terminal to complete their objective.
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Out of the gloom came the sound of screaming and gunfire. The pair grabbed the unconscious form of Dornaka and the shiny object from Argider’s severed hand and retreated to safety.
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Between the reward for the data and shiny object, and some further trading by Carmele, the crew more than doubled their credit balance. Bittor evidently held Dornaka responsible for Argider’s death, and the air between them was notably strained from that point on.
A planet-wide announcement came that all ships would be restricted from travelling offworld for the immediate future, but that didn’t affect the crew. Their focus remained upon collecting credits to finance the purchase of one of their own.
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ID
Aw man, you need a YouTube channel to put this on. Seriously, you need to make this into a short video.
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_z29m150g5oq_NTHHKs5zPEKdVAimz-V
Dan
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Fun sounding game. Thanks for posting.
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Wow! That was a great report! Too bad for Argider, looks like you're going to need some new recruits lol
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Cheers, folks. Can't beat 5PfH for some solo procedural campaign play
Aw man, you need a YouTube channel to put this on.
Judging from how long this footage for making crates has been sitting in my hard drive from an intent to learn video editing, I fear we might be on the 4th edition of 5PfH before we get halfway through a campaign!
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I like the report. Well done. Your crew has had more luck than mine ever did! Sheesh, I feel like I get hit with swindles where my crew loses credits, and unexpected ship repairs constantly. Not sure how the newest version of 5P plays, but I use the Salvage team rules and it is pretty unforgiving. Not a ton of opportunity for gains, but it may be designed that way as the "winning condition" is essentially to buy your way out of debt.
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I find there to be quite a bit of swing with 5PfH 3e. Playing with the errata, so fewer credits from the off, but rolled up decent enough equipment that I don't feel too hard up. Not as bad as the early battles in Jagged Alliance 2, anyway! Got lucky with the post-battle rolls for credits (Carmele traded some cargo for more credits than the entire battle).
It's a very dependent upon enemies rolled up. Previous campaigns have gone south quickly when I forget that things are really adjusted for crew strength! I've learned that some battles aren't worth sticking around for. Worried about running up against large numbers of critters or groups of tough beasties. The 7cm visibility limit will make things tricky against brawlers!
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The 7cm visibility limit will make things tricky against brawlers!
Doodler
You need a handheld scanning motion detector, like the ones in Alien and Aliens. You know the ones that didn't seem to work so well as to exactly where the motion was coming from, only a rough distance and direction and only on a flat plain reading maybe.
You could come up with some sort of house rule for something like this, like a roll of the die out to 14cm and another roll for direction. Of course, this could be a false reading too will not no until you are within 7cm then its' just another roll to find out. This would be great for creepy creatures. the false reading could be caused by a fly. I didn't say they were great detectors.
I am sure that this would keep your crew on its toes, and force decisions as to what they may do based on a reading whether it is false or not.
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Quite a nice setup, report & read.
Thanks for sharing.
Wm - How about having counters to represent blips. you put them face down so that you won't know what they are ( add an element of surprise for solo ).
Then uncover them when & as the need arises or do a die roll.
eg of counters can be -
1- No of creatures/men,
2- Ghost return ( No of creatures/men not clear ) ,
3- Dud reading ( nothing there ),
4- Add another counter next to it ( scanner did not detect the second blip ) ,
5- Scanner malfunction ( cannot use scanner this turn ).
6- Hudson says Multiple readings ( add another counter or d3 counters in a random direction/s )
Etc.
Z
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Quite a nice setup, report & read.
Thanks for sharing.
Wm - How about having counters to represent blips. you put them face down so that you won't know what they are ( add an element of surprise for solo ).
Then uncover them when & as the need arises or do a die roll.
eg of counters can be -
1- No of creatures/men,
2- Ghost return ( No of creatures/men not clear ) ,
3- Dud reading ( nothing there ),
4- Add another counter next to it ( scanner did not detect the second blip ) ,
5- Scanner malfunction ( cannot use scanner this turn ).
6- Hudson says Multiple readings ( add another counter or d3 counters in a random direction/s )
Etc.
Z
That is a great idea! I have to write it down!
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5 Parsecs Salvage Team had rules like that for contacts. Off the top of my head, the contact would, each turn, have a chance to move, resolve into an enemy, or vanish. The kicker was that a contact was spawned every time you came within 6" of a new major terrain feature, so I would end up trying to navigate the board in a way as not to accidentally trigger multiple contacts in a turn. Dealing with small groups from a single contact was ok, but if you had 3-4 contacts resolve into small groups in a single turn... o_o
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Sounds similar to the Contacts in Nordic Weasel's Bug Hunt. He has given some suggestions for transposing crews across games, but I don't think my intrepid trio are quite ready for that if a single vent crawler took two of them down in one turn!
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I thought the newest print edition (Modiphius) combined all the old 5 Parsecs types into a single coherent rule set. Did that not happen? My understanding was that you could roll up missions that came from Salvage, Gang Wars, Bug Hunt, et al. It trimmed away some of the conflicting details about credits (each game had its own idea of how credits were applied, I believe), and created combined charts for between missions. That said, I haven't purchased the book yet so I'm not really sure how it turned out. It could be that so much was dropped from the spinoff games that you don't feel like they truly exist in a fully fleshed-out manner anymore.
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I was hoping to get my hands on their mission charts, from the first edition (which used to be online for sale as PDF. Can’t find it now.
Dan
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Dan
check your email, see if that is the one?
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WM
You da man!!!
Dan
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I thought the newest print edition (Modiphius) combined all the old 5 Parsecs types into a single coherent rule set. Did that not happen? My understanding was that you could roll up missions that came from Salvage, Gang Wars, Bug Hunt, et al. It trimmed away some of the conflicting details about credits (each game had its own idea of how credits were applied, I believe), and created combined charts for between missions. That said, I haven't purchased the book yet so I'm not really sure how it turned out. It could be that so much was dropped from the spinoff games that you don't feel like they truly exist in a fully fleshed-out manner anymore.
The latest edition of Five Parsecs of Home is more of a "proper commercial" rulebook (high standard artwork and layout, fleshed out and all), but it's not a compilation of earlier releases. Although I think there will be PDFs with new rules, where one is supposed to use the old blip mechanic.
That said, it's an excellent book, high value for the money!
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Bittor – former ganger seeking fame (blast rifle, handgun)
Carmele – glory-hunting crew leader from a military outpost (plasma rifle, blade, screen generator)
Dornaka – technology-obsessed former member of a peaceful, high-tec colony (laser-sighted machine pistol, military rifle)
Carmele sent out Bittor to go looking for someone who might be able and willing to fill the late Argider’s bunk in their decrepit quarters, while she and Dornaka went looking for opportunities to earn credits. The ex-gang member returned with Ederne, a former petty thief with a suspiciously similar skillset to Dornaka, who remained on bad terms with Bittor, though not quite at the level with electronics. The fact that she’d gifted Bittor a jump belt clearly had no impact on his decision to recommend her to the others. For their part, the women had found the crew a potential patron in the sort of sleazy bar where wealthy patrons wishing for discretion are typically found.
Zubiald had a technical problem – a host of his worker bots had gone haywire with a virus, and he needed someone to slip past them and install a patch to override their protocols. He also had an eye out for effective troubleshooting teams, and with operations spanning multiple planets could prove to be a reliable employer.
Arming Ederne with Argider’s military rifle and machine pistol, the crew set off into the network of tunnels.
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The bots were slow but our heroes wouldn’t be able to reach the terminal ahead of them. The gloom meant that there wouldn’t be many chances to blast the machines down at range.
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Guns at the ready, Carmele, Bittor and Ederne pushed ahead. Dorkana loitered near a patch of organic material favoured for use in engineering, seeing what she could glean from it first hand.
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Concerned with the more pressing matter, of heavy mechanical footsteps echoing down the corridor ahead, the advancing trio lined up and waited for the robots to emerge from the gloom.
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As soon as they saw the gleam of eye sockets, the Carmele, Bittor and Ederne opened fire. In between shots came the sound of large metallic objects hitting the floor. The trio slowly retreated as more forms emerged, careful to maintain the distance between them. In a remarkable display of accuracy, they finished the machines off without a single one closing the distance. All that remained was for Dorkana to saunter up to the terminal and install the update to the network.
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Zubiald was true to his word, paying up a full six credits for the assigned job and two more for salvaged materials from the machines themselves. Bittor kept hold of a ripper sword he’d found. He and Dornaka had had another shouting match over ‘times and places for hobbies’, and felt that such a weapon at his belt might prove to make him the better debater. Despite the disquiet amongst the crew, Carmele considered them all to be on the up and in the hands of good fortune. Or at least she felt luckier than before.
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Another interesting mission.
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That was a great mission! Nice work.
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The latest edition of Five Parsecs of Home is more of a "proper commercial" rulebook (high standard artwork and layout, fleshed out and all), but it's not a compilation of earlier releases. Although I think there will be PDFs with new rules, where one is supposed to use the old blip mechanic.
That said, it's an excellent book, high value for the money!
There is an Expansion 1, Trailblazers Toolkit at Drivethru RPG https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/367539/Five-Parsecs-From-Home--Expansion-1--Trailblazers-Toolkit?src=also_purchased
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Lovely batrep! Very, very enjoyable!
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Another good report. How long is it taking you to play out each mission?
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Cheers all!
I'm a very nonchalant, inefficient gamer, so each of these campaign turns take about an hour to do (including all the pre-mission stuff). That's taking into account getting distracted by the tennis, making tea, and the like. I'm sure an efficient and... er, chalant... gamer could get it all done in half the time!
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Happily, I've found a decent container for the dungeon tiles - an old kitchen surface sample case. Large enough for a 4 x 3 grid of tiles flat, two full layers one on top of the other and, if I can keep everything thin enough, another layer of wall-less tiles on top of that.
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That last part may change since I'm minded to magnetise the tile bottoms and wall tops, and a cursory test suggests that there should be enough space for magnetic sheets, but I'm not sure if it will work when the whole case is full.
In any event, the case will need a bit of work done to it. Perhaps some foam core stuck to the sides and EVA foam to the top (space permitting).
It does mean that I've got space for up to another 16 walled tiles and 10 floor tiles. I might make two pairs of panelled tunnel floor and wall tiles for the symmetry, and then it will be a case of working out other applications for jenga blocks in a sci fi setting. Will happily take suggestions and inspiration! I also have some 20x20cm tiles so there's scope for some more open terrain. Perhaps some sandy canyons - just a different coating on the sides of the walls and less work on the floors, though gaps between tiles will be more obvious.
A jungle is a possibility, with lots of plants crowded around jenga blocks, but might feel a bit odd having such flat ground, especially the four tiles that would stack across the top in the case - can't have anything thicker than a 2mm EVA foam layer.
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Excellent find! I’ve been looking for a similar case for a while. I have a friend who says he has something that might work for me. I’ll take pics once I start work on it.
Dan
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Excellent find! I’ve been looking for a similar case for a while. I have a friend who says he has something that might work for me. I’ll take pics once I start work on it.
I'd love to see how your take on it works out! I've a couple of old empty drill cases for future projects - a Makita and a Black & Decker. The ready-made inserts would be a decent basis for sci fi terrain shapes.
Ended up going for just the one other terrain type for the time being, hoping to get things done in time for the next journey in two weeks' time. There's still scope for some flat, wall-less tiles on top from some grassland planet, but that's a job for future Doodler. Until then, a sheet of EVA foam laid across the cork tiles should stop everything from rattling around in transit.
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Had some cork tiles lying around after being inspired ages back by Matakishi's Tea House, so used them to make some tiles from scratch after struggling to find further coasters and mats which would fit neatly. Turns out that seven layers of the cork equalled one jenga wall, so proceeded to make some stack, canyon and alcove tiles. Also did two tiles for to act as objective markers. A sawn-up water pistol became a crashed space craft, and several jenga blocks became the basis for a versatile building of whatever plot-necessary purpose with the help of some keyboard keys and broken not-Transformers toy.
Just got to settle on a texture paste to slap on the flat areas of cork, and then get some drybrushing practice in. Got some old Wickes sampler pots which should make for some hardy coats, and have been slowly chopping up some jute twine to act as alien planet scrub - just about the only hobbying I was able to get done in the very silly British weather this week.
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That's a brilliant set-up! Great to have both outdoor and indoor modularity.
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Love the battle case. I feel like it needs some handcuffs attached to the handle and a "Top Secret" sticker slapped on the side for good measure lol
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Love the battle case. I feel like it needs some handcuffs attached to the handle and a "Top Secret" sticker slapped on the side for good measure lol
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Nice setup.
What you need is an artist acrylic impasto or paste for the terrain. Use the fine or medium grit. I mix mine with paints to create the various tints.
Z
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Thanks, folks
Great to have both outdoor and indoor modularity.
The floors for both sets of tiles lining up was a very happy accident. I may have messed it up with the application of textured paste, though hopefully it's a thin enough level that it won't be a tremendous leap up for 15mm figures. I'm quite pleased that the rocky tiles will be able to surround a corridor tile to essentially create a small outpost.
Love the battle case. I feel like it needs some handcuffs attached to the handle and a "Top Secret" sticker slapped on the side for good measure lol
Y'know... did we ever find out what was in the Pulp Fiction briefcase...?
What you need is an artist acrylic impasto or paste for the terrain. Use the fine or medium grit. I mix mine with paints to create the various tints.
In the end I went with filler (spackle), fine sand, pva and a bit of paint so I could see which areas I'd already gone over. Had enough left over to do a spare flat tile too, so now I can set up a 3 x 3 rocky set up without having to use one of the large tiles. Also handy to have a bit of a larger space so that there's occasionally a benefit to having long ranged weapons. My 5 Parsecs crew rolled up some decent weaponry, but the corridors have to some extent negated some of their benefits!
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Y'know... did we ever find out what was in the Pulp Fiction briefcase...?
In the move "Ronin", did we ever find out what was in that briefcase? lol lol lol
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Lol. Good point!
Dan
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Got the second set of tiles done in time for the next holiday by public transport, so the crew can now dream of using their long range weaponry from an actual distance. Still space for nine tiles to make a flat grassland of some sort, but that can wait. Until then, a sheet of EVA foam stops everything from rattling around too much inside the case.
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Quite Nice work ....
Good Job :D
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Brill :)
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Superb!
That's a great set-up, and the modularity and portability are fantastic advantages - not to mention ease of storage!
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That is a great setup you have, those tiles look great! It looks like you used cork to make all of the rocky outcrops which turned out great.
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Cheers, all!
That's a great set-up, and the modularity and portability are fantastic advantages - not to mention ease of storage!
I can't see myself going back to 28mm anytime soon; it's great having board games that are harder to store than my miniatures for once! I've now bagged myself a set of 18 variously sized mats from a charity shop, and a selection of 15mm fantasy figures. Just need to brainstorm some fantasy equivalents.
That is a great setup you have, those tiles look great! It looks like you used cork to make all of the rocky outcrops which turned out great.
Yeah, it was a happy coincidence that seven layers of cork tile came to the same height as a jenga block, but once I realised that it was a no brainer to hack apart as many cork tiles as I needed. The outcrops work nicely as cover to shoot over rather than pure line of sight blockers. The corridor tiles, while fun, do need scatter terrain to give characters something to duck down behind.
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This project tickles my creative nerve, now I want to get back in hobby mode!
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Do it, do it, do it
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Just found this thread - part of searching for Star Wars 15 mm stuff. A lot of curious and adaptable ideas, especially for cheap terrain making.
And for OP Idle Doodler, your figure painting is pretty darn good - we can't all be Steve Dean (and if we were he'd be out of an income source!). I think you'll find in 15 mm, people are a lot more forgiving than elements of the 28 mm crowd. And I suspect even in 28 mm there are vast amounts of barely adequately painted figures out there providing there owners with just as much fun as those who are real artists - except the latter hardly play with there stuff for fear of a fingerprint, let alone any damage to the figure. [That's what seal coat is for!]
For me, paint jobs just need to be 'good enough'. Once the game is afoot, most players could care less about the paint job and are focused on the game. Paint job just identifies the figure (or figures) better than the bare sculpts. When I came to that realization, it really freed my spirit to paint away - and now I can sometimes paint over 400 figures in a month. Going to win prizes? No. Going to provide fun on the table? Yes. And ain't that the point?
Oh, and feel free to point me towards Star Wars suitable stuff. (Already know about Highlander Studios and Khurasan so other stuff that is 'close enough' would be helpful, with specific figure(s). Some of the websites don't have adequate photos - I'm looking at you GZG.)
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If your are looking at GZG then you have a handful as there are loads of minis you can choose from but note that his newer minis are more 17/18mm rather than the older 15mm he used to make. They are kinder on the eyes to paint .
There are loads to choose from which can be used for SW but it depends on choice.
I think for imperials you can use the Unsc (old minis)
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/unsc.html
or for rebels, these (new)
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/brethren-of-the-new-light.html
Or these
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/15mm-stargrunt/infantry/tomorrows-war/tw15-dp01.html
This should help
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I just found this thread and it’s so chock full of brilliant ideas for terrain, I’m really, really tempted to start 15mm SF again! :-*
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Wow, impressive! And thanks for the closeups with figures in them, to show relative scale. Most excellent.
Dan
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Been playing some 5 Parsecs campaigns which have all petered out in time, but enjoyed them nonetheless. Since using unarmed bots in 6mm (https://therecouldhavebeensnakes.com/2023/08/13/6mm-bots/) campaigns, though, it has felt unsatisfying using my armed 15mm war bots (https://therecouldhavebeensnakes.com/2022/01/11/war-bots/) as haywire mining / construction robots, an opponent I've rolled up surprisingly often. Humanoid bots fit my head canon, but I find it harder to imagine weapons off a mini than onto it, so I rummaged around for some Alternative Armies and Ground Zero Games minis.
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Awesome stuff, friend!
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Very nice 8)
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Nice. They have a cybermen vibe. No weapons but still dangerous.
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Your 6mm minis came out great...
Thanks for sharing
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Cheers, all.
Did some quick cultists from Alternative Armies (mostly? Can't recall where the chap in the middle comes from). Just a drybrush followed by speed / contrast paints - I'm not too fussed about these faceless peons having anything more than tabletop standard, and better to get them done than run out of steam like with the bots.
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"no one expects...." ;)
They look good
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The guy in the middle is from RAFM, old Traveller mini:
https://rafm.com/products/raf07021
Dan
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"no one expects...." ;)
Just need to find a 1:100 scale comfy chair
The guy in the middle is from RAFM, old Traveller mini:
Excellent, thanks! No idea how RAFM's sci fi range had escaped my notice; my subconscious had them filed under US vendors.
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The cultists (Red Redemptionists??) look great!
As Dan alluded to above, the RAFM range is the old Traveller range from Citadel, complete with Vargr, Droyne and Aslan.
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I love them! I used the range for my 15mm Genestealer Cult and while the sculpts are not the best, they do their job and have enough variety.
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Doodler
That’s a mighty fine bunch of cultists. I might have to revisit an old project of mine: Omega Man (1971):
https://horrornews.net/93279/film-review-omega-man-1971/
http://dustyvideobox.blogspot.com/2015/03/you-finally-really-did-it-you-maniacs.html
Dan
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Rolled up a small crew and started a new 5 Parsecs campaign. First turn took place in a quiet moment on a family holiday, so out came the travel case.
More details are on the blog (https://therecouldhavebeensnakes.wordpress.com/2024/04/21/5-parsecs-from-home-campaign-turn-1-2/) if anyone wants a written account of the campaign generation and crew's first mission.
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Great looking game.
My, largely 2D scenery pales into insignificance compared to yours.
I look forward to seeing more of their adventures.
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I’ll echo that - great looking game! The terrain looks pretty seamless together. It seems like it would be quite versatile, too, with the modular sections.
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That looks absolutely splendid! :o