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Title: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on January 07, 2022, 04:44:16 PM
'Then David rested with his ancestors and was buried in the City of David.'

I have for a while been considering building a Biblical burial cave, I now have an excuse, and most importantly, a deadline (no pun intended!)

It will be loosely based on the First Temple era cave complex 2 at St. Étienne’s Monastery, Jerusalem.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Burgundavia on January 07, 2022, 06:29:39 PM
Very nifty. Did you plan on keeping the Christian religious symbology or do more generic?
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on January 07, 2022, 06:42:09 PM
A good while before Christianity - about 8th century BCE, so the religion which became Judaism, but before it was called Judaism. Probably not much symbology at all, that appears to have been reserved for the Temple, at least in Jerusalem.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on January 14, 2022, 10:35:39 AM
This burial cave will be part of my 15mm Biblical town ‘Shalomel’, the buildings of which are mostly based on, but not precise models of, various sites which can be found all over the Holy land. All the elements of Shalomel are built on tiles from the Sarissa Precision Terrain Tile System.
This cave is inspired by cave complex 2 at St Étienne Monastery, Jerusalem.

A drawing can be found on page 19 of this document:
https://scholarworks.iu.edu/journals/index.php/sdh/article/download/31691/36950/84161

I have changed it by removing a couple of the burial chambers, and making the rooms bigger than they should be, to allow the model to be useable.
I shall also be building the neighbouring tiles, but they will only be seen here where necessary.
Here is my initial scrawling and the tile with preliminary layout marking. I hope it will become clearer (at least to me) soon. The tile is 200mm square:
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Codsticker on January 16, 2022, 08:54:57 PM
Excellent idea! It will be great to see it pictures of it with the rest of the village.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on January 17, 2022, 06:15:54 AM
Floors added - 3mm greyboard. They will be raised another level in the burial chambers.

Also front wall - 4mm and 3mm mdf. The pilasters are scribed square styrene tube with capitals cast in resin from a master I made from styrene, brass rod and green stuff.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: has.been on January 18, 2022, 02:12:30 PM
Good so far, please keep it up.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Bearwoodman on January 23, 2022, 09:57:27 AM
A really interesting concept! Being more of a fantasy gamer than an Ancients one I can't help feeling that this would be great for a "dungeon crawl" style game! I am looking forward to seeing how this ends up.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on February 06, 2022, 07:04:39 AM
Bit slow of late, I'm afraid. Partly the weather but mostly the arrival of Alfie, a puppy, who thinks MDF and polystyrene make great things to chew, so I've had to restrict my activities to when my wife isn't at work or the all too brief episodes of sleep, when eyes in unusual anatomical parts are nevertheless required!

So here we are, the front of the four-part cliff face including the burial cave. Now I know it all fits together I'll ignore the rest, except for a coat of paint, until the cave is done. The other cave mouth will eventually end up as a burial place for the lesser folk.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Blackwolf on February 06, 2022, 07:51:26 AM
That looks fab 8)
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: aircav on February 06, 2022, 09:03:16 AM
That’s great  8) 8)
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Vanvlak on February 06, 2022, 10:29:28 AM
Slow? I'm miles behind!
Well, done, it looks cool 8)
So did you use pre-chewed or standard polystyrene?
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on February 06, 2022, 12:14:25 PM
Standard polystyrene; the offcuts are a bit chewed, because some fell on the floor. I am also chewed, because I had to remove the offcuts from his mouth. Fortunately he's a Yorkipoo, so small enough to not result in serious harm to either of us!

Thanks to all of you for your complementary, and therefore encouraging, comments.

I'm taking the rest of the day (mostly) off, except for a bit of relevant figure painting, then starting on greenstuff dead people tomorrow and internal walls following that.

Canine co-operation permitting.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: AKULA on February 06, 2022, 12:26:29 PM
Looking great, that last shot was particularly impressive.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Dr Mathias on February 07, 2022, 12:12:36 AM
Really cool project :)
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Vanvlak on February 07, 2022, 06:59:09 AM
Standard polystyrene; the offcuts are a bit chewed, because some fell on the floor. I am also chewed, because I had to remove the offcuts from his mouth. Fortunately he's a Yorkipoo, so small enough to not result in serious harm to either of us!
...
Canine co-operation permitting.
lol
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Codsticker on February 07, 2022, 04:18:37 PM
Love the look of it so far.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on February 19, 2022, 06:52:13 AM
Rather sluggish progress this week, not assisted by the weather!
The entire outside front with a coat of textured paint. Proper colours this weekend, so it'll be in camera until all is revealed. Hopefully a picture or two of some inside bits next week, as long as I've not put too much paint on 'em!
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Codsticker on February 21, 2022, 01:05:23 AM
So far so excellent! I really like the integrated bases- great idea.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on February 26, 2022, 06:33:28 PM
So here we are - the inside under construction and completed. internal walls built from styrofoam, cork and greyboard, with greyboard burial benches. Ready for a bit of filling and texturing, then paint and the all important details, mostly green stuff corpses. That's it until it's done. Thanks to everyone who has commented and encouraged, without this competition I would still be thinking about building it, so I've won even though I won't!
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Vanvlak on February 27, 2022, 06:48:18 AM
Really cool work there - I didn't realise what the metallic objects were initially, they're skewers holding the foam in place, right? Clever idea  8)
And the integrated base idea works nicely too.
Hope the dog is still fine and nor replete with bits of polystyrene   :D
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on February 27, 2022, 07:23:21 AM
Yes, pins to hold it whilst the glue dries.
The dog will be 'helping' me paint today, so not much to eat, but he may have a little drink...
Thanks for overseeing this, as I said, I wouldn't have got around to this without the excuse and deadline.
The bases are brilliant, I'm trying to build a 15mm Biblical town to fit a (metric) 6x4 table and their modularity makes it less logistically challenging!
No, I don't really know why either - Samson the Barbarian or David the Giant Killer anyone?
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on May 06, 2022, 03:50:35 PM
If anyone is interested there are now more piccies of my creation on my blog;
www.biblicalwargaming.com (http://www.biblicalwargaming.com)
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: has.been on May 06, 2022, 04:36:17 PM
Lots of nice things there. Well done.
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on May 06, 2022, 05:32:36 PM
Thank you, most kind!
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: aircav on May 06, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Looks fantastic  8) 8)
Title: Re: BSC2022 - Tarnegol - 1 Kings 2:10
Post by: Tarnegol on May 07, 2022, 06:21:26 AM
Thank you, and congrats on the well deserved win.