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Title: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 07, 2022, 05:00:43 PM
I will join the contest again and it will be another part of my Vietnam project.

It will probably be some sort of accommodation bunkers for US troops, like at Khe Sanh.
I will try not to do the same thing as Tom  ;)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area
Post by: has.been on January 07, 2022, 06:45:39 PM
Keen to see you two keeping it different.
I have every confidence you (both) can do it.
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 08, 2022, 06:25:21 PM
I have found a lot of pictures of Khe Sanh military base.

The structures use 44 gallon drums, wooden crates, Marston mats and hundreds of green or beige sandbags.

https://www.gettyimages.ch/fotos/khe-sanh-combat-base?assettype=image&page=2&phrase=khe%20sanh%20combat%20base&sort=mostpopular&license=rf%2Crm (https://www.gettyimages.ch/fotos/khe-sanh-combat-base?assettype=image&page=2&phrase=khe%20sanh%20combat%20base&sort=mostpopular&license=rf%2Crm)

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/officers-of-the-united-states-marines-corps-constructing-a-bunker-a-picture-id1304276426?s=2048x2048)

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/united-states-marine-stands-at-the-entrance-to-a-bunker-at-khe-sanh-picture-id1299338131?s=2048x2048)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 09, 2022, 01:33:00 PM
Here is a soldier weight training during a rest period at Khe Sanh.
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/american-marine-corporal-vincent-j-mazzie-working-out-with-a-barbell-picture-id1299283224?s=2048x2048)

and here is a basketball hoop made from a bucket.
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/using-a-bucket-for-a-basket-united-states-marines-pass-the-time-at-picture-id1299277550?s=2048x2048)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 10, 2022, 08:26:33 PM
I have made some progress.

I will have at least two bunkers - one constructed with box walls, the other with oil drums and sandbags.
These will be two sides of a basketball & weight training area. This is the part for the competition.

There will also be a defensive area with Marston Mat helipad, lines of soil filled barrels, and some defensive trenches.
I am not sure whether these are going to be separate pieces or one tile.
A tile would look better but separate pieces are easier to use later.

I have started preparing components.
Some of these are for the defences, not the resting place.

I need at least 30 x 44 Gallon Drums, 50 boxes, 100 Marston Mats and hundreds of sandbags.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51811991947_ef375c2676_o.jpg)

Mass production of boxes. I have a problem with bad prints in the centre, so I made a group of 16 boxes going round the edge.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51813300884_9cbf435b94_o.jpg)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area
Post by: Poiter50 on January 11, 2022, 12:49:51 AM
Mick, are those files available to print for we Plebs?

I have made some progress.

I will have at least two bunkers - one constructed with box walls, the other with oil drums and sandbags.
These will be two sides of a basketball & weight training area. This is the part for the competition.

There will also be a defensive area with Marston Mat helipad, lines of soil filled barrels, and some defensive trenches.
I am not sure whether these are going to be separate pieces or one tile.
A tile would look better but separate pieces are easier to use later.

I have started preparing components.
Some of these are for the defences, not the resting place.

I need at least 30 x 40 Gallon Drums, 50 boxes, 100 Marston Mats and hundreds of sandbags.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51811991947_ef375c2676_o.jpg)

Mass production of boxes. I have a problem with bad prints in the centre, so I made a group of 16 boxes going round the edge.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51813300884_9cbf435b94_o.jpg)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 10 January)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 11, 2022, 07:01:50 AM
Marston Mat by KubFire is free here.
I resized it from 1/35 to 1/50, so each element is 73.2mm long and 11.2mm wide.
I printed them with the short side vertical and the long side horizontal. 6 close together on each side of the bath.
https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/103603-135-marston-mat-landing-surface-ww2 (https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/103603-135-marston-mat-landing-surface-ww2)

Wooden Crate by HeliconOne is free here. I resized to 20x10x8mm and printed 16 at a time at 45o in the pattern shown in the photo.
These are hollow with 1mm thick walls.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3945435 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3945435)

Oil Drum by Bordorick is free here. I resized to 18mm high and 12mm diameter and printed at 45o in a similar pattern to the crates.
The lid is separate and I will not need many of them. Most will be filled with earth like gabions.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3912203 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3912203)

Old Steel Bucket by MadHatter_Cloud is free here. I made it 8mm tall and printed at 45o. This is very thin.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3938181 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3938181)

Sandbags are by TabletopMinis. This set of STL files costs US$1.95. They have 4 different sets. I print these at 90%.
I will use printed sandbags for the bulk but hand make from Milliput for the top layer, damaged ones, corners, joints, etc.
https://www.tabletopminis.com/product/10157_Sand_Bags

Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 10 January)
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 11, 2022, 07:13:53 AM
Thanks for the links .
I started printing sandbags last night. I will try to make mine look different , too!
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 10 January)
Post by: Poiter50 on January 11, 2022, 08:32:33 AM
Thanks for all those links. I was actually looking at Marston matting the other day and hadn't found this one.

Marston Mat by KubFire is free here.
I resized it from 1/35 to 1/50, so each element is 73.2mm long and 11.2mm wide.
I printed them with the short side vertical and the long side horizontal. 6 close together on each side of the bath.
https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/103603-135-marston-mat-landing-surface-ww2 (https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/103603-135-marston-mat-landing-surface-ww2)

Wooden Crate by HeliconOne is free here. I resized to 20x10x8mm and printed 16 at a time at 45o in the pattern shown in the photo.
These are hollow with 1mm thick walls.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3945435 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3945435)

Oil Drum by Bordorick is free here. I resized to 18mm high and 12mm diameter and printed at 45o in a similar pattern to the crates.
The lid is separate and I will not need many of them. Most will be filled with earth like gabions.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3912203 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3912203)

Old Steel Bucket by MadHatter_Cloud is free here. I made it 8mm tall and printed at 45o. This is very thin.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3938181 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3938181)

Sandbags are by TabletopMinis. This set of STL files costs US$1.95. They have 4 different sets. I print these at 90%.
I will use printed sandbags for the bulk but hand make from Milliput for the top layer, damaged ones, corners, joints, etc.
https://www.tabletopminis.com/product/10157_Sand_Bags
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 14 January)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 14, 2022, 04:43:14 PM
First bunker made from wooden crates and Marston mat with sandbag roof.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51820332833_7656462314_o.jpg)

Start of wall for second bunker and oil drum gabions. Empress figures for scale.
The earth and stones are wine corks that have been ground in a Nutribullet.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51820218741_17af8d42f8_o.jpg)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 14 January)
Post by: Burgundavia on January 14, 2022, 08:20:32 PM
Very nice. I think you win the unofficial prize for "first to actual painting". Looking forward to the rest of this coming together.
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 14 January)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 14, 2022, 09:37:04 PM
@ Burgundavia - Thank you.  Actually, I am working on a book and needed to have some Khe Sanh style bunkers to complete the terrain chapter, so it is fortunate that the BSC corresponds with my current project.
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 14 January)
Post by: Poiter50 on January 15, 2022, 12:21:33 AM
Printed some drums on Wed, they came out a treat. Used your recommended height which shortened the print time from what I had reduced them to. Still need some more, apparently a 3t truck takes 15 as a load.

First bunker made from wooden crates and Marston mat with sandbag roof.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51820332833_7656462314_o.jpg)

Start of wall for second bunker and oil drum gabions. Empress figures for scale.
The earth and stones are wine corks that have been ground in a Nutribullet.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51820218741_17af8d42f8_o.jpg)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 14 January)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 15, 2022, 10:56:53 AM
Second bunker starts with a plasticard shed and then is protected by dirt filled oil drums and sandbags.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51821748178_8dda1c4ecb_o.jpg)

The roof is Marston Mat with sandbags. 3D printed sandbags save time but there will still be hours of Milliput work to come.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51820850672_fd6ea7dfa5_o.jpg)

Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 15 January)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 15, 2022, 04:19:10 PM
Second "oil drum" bunker and basketball hoop built.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51822444044_1441a605ec_o.jpg)

And here is the first "wooden crate" bunker.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51820332833_7656462314_o.jpg)

Now, I will have to decide on individual bases or a landscaped tile.
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 15 January)
Post by: Codsticker on January 16, 2022, 03:55:22 AM
Even though it is nowhere near finished yet, the basketball hoop does it for me. :D
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 15 January)
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 19, 2022, 09:14:35 AM
very nice indeed
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 15 January)
Post by: Bearwoodman on January 23, 2022, 09:44:34 AM
This looks great so far and the attention to detail is impressive.
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 15 January)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on March 02, 2022, 07:36:24 PM
After a good start there was a long pause because I was busy with other things.

I picked the project up again on Sunday and made a corner of a US Vietnam base with XPS foam.

I tried to texture this with a a hot air gun but the results were unexpected and frustrating.
Gaps are forced open and joints peel  back.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51913310432_cb7d9ed460_o.jpg)

Here is the finished layout before painting. I covered the surface with ground cork.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51914370568_8ba3c1bde7_o.jpg)

This is the last post before submission. More after the competition is finished.
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 2nd March)
Post by: tomrommel1 on March 03, 2022, 07:16:38 AM
nice progress
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area (update 2nd March)
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on March 19, 2022, 07:16:17 PM
I worked on it today so that I could get my submission in on time.

Just sent it
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Themed Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on April 17, 2022, 03:26:16 PM
Now I am knocked out of the BSC 2022 competition, I can show some pictures.

Here is the whole thing with some 28mm Rubicon figures and Bob Mack 3D printed M113 ACAV and M551 Sheridan.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52009474717_a67574b6ab_o.jpg)

And here is a close up of the rest area part.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52011015770_c3829f9d66_o.jpg)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: Vanvlak on April 17, 2022, 04:14:16 PM
That is brilliant - I might steal your idea for a sci-fi setting.  8)
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: tomrommel1 on April 19, 2022, 08:35:20 AM
well done
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: mikedemana on June 23, 2022, 03:09:11 AM
I love how your replicated the history you found in the photos so closely. Great stuff!

Mike Demana
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on June 23, 2022, 05:05:37 PM
Thank-you
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: MaleGriffin on July 02, 2022, 02:10:01 PM
Excellent! Looks like part of a Nam firebase!
Title: Re: BSC2022 Mick in Switzerland's Vietnam Khe Sanh Rest Area
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on November 07, 2022, 03:58:29 PM
@MaleGriffin

Thank-you
(sorry for being 4 months late)