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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: tinned fruit on January 18, 2022, 05:39:17 PM
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Putting away the Xmas decorations I came across an unmarked box which had enough balsa to make a Gary Chalk Wild West town. With the upcoming release of "What a Cowboy" and with Dead Man's Hand and the TRWNN as back up it seemed like a sign to break out WI 160 for inspiration.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0Nfcgd1f/WP-20220109-13-31-44-Pro.jpg)
Starting with a barn I must have cut out about twenty years ago...
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwRB8jQk/WP-20220105-16-01-35-Pro.jpg)
A bit a TLC it quickly became this:-
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(https://i.postimg.cc/25sLLj3q/WP-20220114-13-03-12-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RCQJqBmF/WP-20220114-13-03-57-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvgNm63h/WP-20220114-13-20-08-Pro.jpg)
The barn will do duty in my ACW and TWI games as well and is shown with some 28mm Boot Hill New Orleans Greys. Really enjoyed doing this.
Next up - The Hotel. Again starting froom one I put together twenty years ago.
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4bf1fnK/WP-20220109-13-35-00-Pro.jpg)
which turned into this-
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dzsn5HqD/WP-20220117-15-14-09-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLQcgCt3/WP-20220117-15-01-18-Pro.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRtKS4b4/WP-20220117-15-02-58-Pro.jpg)
The Hotel being defended by 28mm Boot Hill Miniatures New Orleans Greys. Inevitably it will be known as "The House of the Rising Sun"...
I cobbled together some fields after all something needs to be stored in the barn.
(https://i.postimg.cc/65W2vm6h/WP-20220114-13-07-30-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nc3sYGCf/WP-20220114-13-05-42-Pro.jpg)
Next up will be a couple of run down shacks and storerooms.
More pictures on my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Good work & nice pictures on your FB page.
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Looks nice.
Now, no reason there can't be two in the modelverse but Nick Nascati here on LAF also has a town named Purgatory, too. Just sayin'. :D If you explore the thread on the Old West home page Old West Town Roll Call you can find pictures of it.
Why, heck, two towns with the same name claim just might lead to some flyin' lead! ;)
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Marvelous terrain!
Dan
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Nice work, looking forward to more!
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FifteensAway,
Thanks for the mention, but my Purgatory has long been dismantled for kindling. :)
Nick
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Building number three for Purgatory - this one bringing a bit of class and no doubt the future home of "The Temperance League"
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jJ6DRsQ/WP-20220203-15-17-21-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSpmVs1n/WP-20220203-15-13-25-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1jwHTSC/WP-20220203-15-13-55-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5jdXm74m/WP-20220203-15-19-24-Pro.jpg)
I'm still using the bits rediscovered from a box last opened in 2002.
Next up the two out buildings that I neglected to finish this.
Tomorrow it's back to a long overdue river, some 15mm Afghan compounds in effort to clear the decks to start on Mosul...
More photos on my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Nice addition to the town.
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Absolutely lovely and thanks for pointing out your Facebook page! I really enjoyed looking through the pics! (And stealing ideas! Imitation is the highest form of flattery!)
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Great work. That house can be used for just about any US or Canadian setting, from the mid-18th century up to now...
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FifteensAway,
Thanks for the mention, but my Purgatory has long been dismantled for kindling. :)
Nick
So it has, so to speak, gone to hell... ;)
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How did you make the 'fields' of grain ? Unless that's already been answered, and I missed it ?
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Phil,
They look pretty good. I have a few questions if you are willing.
Putting away the Xmas decorations I came across an unmarked box which had enough balsa to make a Gary Chalk Wild West town. With the upcoming release of "What a Cowboy" and with Dead Man's Hand and the TRWNN as back up it seemed like a sign to break out WI 160 for inspiration.
Through the years there have been different requests for the Gary Chalk plans for the Old West buildings and signs. Do you have a copy that you could share or point me in the right direction? I tried digging through old links but came up empty.
Not a subscriber to WI, and can't find it locally. Is WI 160 "new" or do I need to go looking for it as a back issue?
I like your buildings, but to me the blue windows look peculiar, tough they certainly work and are easy. Is there a reason you didn't use acetate like from food packaging?
Other than ease, is there a reason you chose to build the structures with the boards running up and down rather than side to side?
Do you make the roofs removable for game play for all of your structures or just some of them? Any recommendations or lessons learned would be appreciated.
I like your hay / tall dry prairie grass - cut up door mat or how did you do them? They really look great and I don't think I've seen them previously.
Only other question is whether you will finish the building with some light weathering. Certainly not required and as a matter of personal preference you might not want to.
John
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Thanks for the comments and questions.
The fields are just door/ welcome mats with a rubberised backing glued onto 3mm mdf. The trampled areas are cut down VERY CAREFULLY using a sharp Stanley Knife blade and always cutting away from your body and fingers - basically anything you need! I use coloured filler to fill merge the mat into the mdf then sand, paint and drybrush.
The blue windows are only noticeable very close up. I thought about using acetate but then would have to either cut out window holes are colour the area behind. This way I just glue prepaint paper behind the windo pain and stick it on the building. Lazy but at 3/4 foot on the table you really don't notice it.
It just happens the first couple of buildings have boards running up as I'm planning on doing a mixture for variety - my town, my planning rules... Plus if they run up I don't have to cover the joins which to my mind gives a better look.
All the roofs are removable though from experience I just forget there are figures inside so they are MIA for a while. The floors inside the two storeys are removable as well - habit I suppose though there are no internal decorations.
I remember when the articles first came out that not only did I really like the look of the buildings it also reignited my interest in the hobby so it's a bit of a trip down memory lane. I didn't/ don't want a realistic muddy "Deadwood" I want Silverado or Rio Bravo though every building has three shades of weathering...
Hope that helps...
Next up some outbuildings and some unpleasantness at the Purgatory planning committee meeting.
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Thanks for the reply.
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For Terrement, vertical board siding is pretty common out here in the western USA - usually board and batten style (each board join is covered by a narrow, thin board). Horizontal boards are usually lap siding.
For dinnerfruit, glad you commented about the colorings of your town - I was wondering at the all green building. I'd guess a paint job like that would have been pretty expensive in the era. I expect to stay with the 'dungy and dingy' when I get around to painting/staining/coloring Lodgepole Creek. Color will be limited to signs and trim I expect. Just my take.
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Really nice work but shouldn't there be some stovepipes or chimneys? I presume that a Hotel would probably have a kitchen of some sort, rather than a separate cookhouse.
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Thanks 15 - great info.
Although the buildings are for a Wild West town I wanted to see whether some might do doube/ triple duty in my ACW/ AWI and TWI games. The green house is one such attempt and is styled after one in Volume 4 of the old Touching History series. To my British eye it could pass for all four settings though for the AWI period it would it have a broader front, probably no balcony and smaller window panes.
Carlos - I thought about doing chimneys and stovepipes as the original article and photo have them but decided stovepipes were a detail too far though some upcoming buildings will have stone chimneys.
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Building four for Purgatory and the first appearance of coffee stirrers - here being used for a roof.
I wanted some of the buildings to be useable in my TWI/ ACW games and this sort of outbuilding is perfect for that.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3xhB89Xp/WP-20220203-15-22-34-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq7FLS1F/WP-20220203-15-23-09-Pro.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xCBvWPjX/WP-20220203-15-24-08-Pro.jpg)
More photos on my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Next up Property Developers erect a building that forces the Purgatory Planning Committee to rethink the current zoning restrictions or lack of them.
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Nice job on that! Again, a very versatile piece!
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The blue windows are only noticeable very close up. I thought about using acetate but then would have to either cut out window holes are colour the area behind. This way I just glue prepaint paper behind the windo pain and stick it on the building. Lazy but at 3/4 foot on the table you really don't notice it.
It just happens the first couple of buildings have boards running up as I'm planning on doing a mixture for variety - my town, my planning rules... Plus if they run up I don't have to cover the joins which to my mind gives a better look.
All the roofs are removable though from experience I just forget there are figures inside so they are MIA for a while. The floors inside the two storeys are removable as well - habit I suppose though there are no internal decorations.
The way you do the windows looks effective. I mistakenly thought you did cut the window holes and put the blue behind. You are right about the distance factor as well.
WRT removable roofs, I know that some folks sacrifice appearances for utility and when the building is occupied, they just play with the roof off. For ambush type games, they start out with a number of "possible" locations equal to their actual number plus some extra depending on the scenario and the opponent. So until the "possible" moves, shoots, or takes some action it just remains undetermined. Like anything that disrupts the table display in a game (status markers, event markers, different colored casualty rings that get hung on the figures,) is a trade-off. We all have our preferences for how much or how little is there. Like having a dead figure on its side with a massive manhole cover attached to their feet sticking up. ;)
As for the boards running vertical rather than horizontal, absolutely your call. I didn't think they'd have planks that long to use, so the comment was just based on that. Your way to mix it up will give a more varied look and besides, it looks like Gary Chalk did it the same way.
Finally, I like your new building just posted. Looks great and useful for many settings and time periods.
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for terrement, first, I don't see that anyone answered you re issue 160 - the magazine is north of issue 400 now and it is a monthly magazine so about twenty some years old. And regarding boards, 16' would not be uncommon, 20' certainly possible, and 24' not impossible. The easy answer for those who wish is to scribe some offset lines to give the impression of shorter boards. And offset they need to be or there will be problems (well, in the 'real' world)
Loving building number four - you have a knack for the coloring of wood.
Now, this pending establishment, will there be 'eagles' and will they be 'flown'? And I'm not talking about gold eagles, neither!
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Fifth building for Purgatory which started off as an utility building but although I liked the finish I wasn't particularly happy with my choice of base. Plus I wasn't clear in my own mind what the building would be used for.
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Luckily "The Temperance Society" then helped with their request for a place of worship to marshal their forces in their efforts to stop the town losing its moral compass. There are rumours that the Society has sent to Ireland for three tops priests and their awarding winning sheep, Chris, to help in the good work.
The cuppola is removable so should the evil property developers manage to gain title the bibles can be easily be replaced with booze.
I'm toying with the idea of a mine - think Scooby Doo - and perhaps a railway station with telegraph office.
From Norwich - no not the quiz of the week but J Clamp & Son's General Store.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/hj2V63Rb/WP-20220209-16-23-48-Pro.jpg)
It's not clear whether the owner is the original J or his son But he likes to serenade his customers with "come buy my vegetables"
Corrugated iron roof this time for variety ( and lazyness).
I've managed to talk myself out of recreating a mine themed modular dungeon and just go for the mine opening! Though I did remember that Ainsty Castings do a brilliant one with everything you'd ever need. Ainsty Castings under YakkumMines.
This is the sixth building for Purgatory with about another five on the assembly line.
More photos on my FB page https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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I find myself wondering if J. Clamp is any relation to Jed Clampett?! :D
Nice buildings - and keeping that cupola separate sort of adds a building to your tally, well, not quite but you know what I mean.
Oy, that yellow! Sure glad you limited it to the facade (aka false front) of the building.
More nice work.
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Lovely collection of builds :)
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Thanks for all the kind coments.
Last of the posh houses that will do double duty as the parochial house in Purgatory and the big house on the Lazy T ranch.
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Replacement barn completed for Purgatory. Smaller footprint than the "Livery Stable" barn and a lot less roof to look at...
(https://i.postimg.cc/637pMkyJ/WP-20220214-13-23-17-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFGFZCFm/WP-20220214-13-25-06-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fQM7R2f/WP-20220214-13-25-41-Pro.jpg)
More photos on my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Tomorrow sees the first of only two brick built structures in Purgatory parish - The Black Bank.
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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They are coming up a treat. Makes me think I have to go back and refurbish mine. Also need to build the TTCombat mine site that I bought.
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They are coming up a treat. Makes me think I have to go back and refurbish mine. Also need to build the TTCombat mine site that I bought.
Plus one to that. :-[
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The famous Black Bank of Purgatory - the ony brick bank within 200 miles - which has never been robbed though many have tried.
Rumours say that the name comes from the colour of the souls of those who work there or warn of the perils of going overdrawn...
Foamcore frame with brick etched paper for the walls.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7P0xbMzV/WP-20220214-13-35-53-Pro.jpg)
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Rather predictably immediately labelled "The Love Shack" by my ever supportive family. I did point out this has a coffee stirrer roof rather than tin and there was no glitter on the front porch...
This utility building will serve equally well on the ranch, mine or on the outskirts of Purgatory.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Prn5MFH9/WP-20220214-13-27-40-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2ZhVXyB/WP-20220214-13-28-03-Pro.jpg)
More photos on my FB page https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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More good looking buildings. That's quite the collection you're amassing there. How's it look all together?
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Nice work on the bank.
On the Love Shack, again, nice work, but if that is going to inhabit denizens of the 'pig farm' it is much too clean and tidy. It needs a real heavy dose of weathering and tarting 'down' with debris.
For a good view of a pig farm, I recommend the movie the Sister Brothers, a gritty western with a much more 'real' feel than a lot of western movies.
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Excellent work, lovely builds as always.
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Great looking buildings, lots of character and excellent color palette.
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What better day to post these as Storm Eunice huffs and puffs and tries to blow my house down.
Yes, more buildings made of sticks.
No little pigs - yet
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Two more utility buidings for Purgatory. Though the log cabin is destined for the gold mine run by "old man Withers"
(https://i.postimg.cc/0y85TMbC/WP-20220214-13-33-23-Pro.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/MH2qdXCV/WP-20220214-13-35-13-Pro.jpg)
As always more photos on my FB page https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Lovely stuff
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Just an FYI, my references to pig farms relate to two legged gals in a declining state of, um, attractiveness to their 'clientele'. ::)
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I’m inspired! Thanks
Dan
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Nearly finished so a couple of group shots of the completed buildings with addition of the Sheriff's Office and Hardware store - but somehow forgot the Church!
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Just the Saloon to finish if the mdf stairs ever turn up then it's on the the Mexican quarter...
More photos on my FB - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
If anybody would like anything similar built just drop me a PM.
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Keep up the good work.
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Great stuff, following with interest! :)
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Good looking buildings!
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Great stuff, they look terrific all together. ;D
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Great stuff, they look terrific all together. ;D
+1 from me!
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Great looking town :-* :-* :-* :-*
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And the church will make building number 13. 13? Uh-oh. Well, add an equal number of 'necessaries' and you'll have 26 buildings in the end. Or does Purgatory rely on the open gutter system of 'drainage'? Might add, well, a not quite brimstone/sulphuric olfactory element but it would certainly add to the 'elements'. ::)
Of course, if Purgatory is adding an Hispanic influenced district you'll be heading north of that number. Will it be the south side of town? If you paint up a lady and name her Doris then you'll need a Leroy Brown and a jealous man, too. ;)
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Some construction questions -
Would you be willing to talk a bit on construction? Looking at your pics, including older ones, it looks to me anyway that some are built with balsa wood walls, some may be wood framing with slats or balsa attached, possibly foam core with wood attached, and haven't a clue on your adobe buildings.
Do you have a standard "go to" method you use for all?
If not, how do you decide which to use for which type of buildings?
Do you try to make them all with removable roofs?
Do you ever do bases for structures, or are they all just the building on its own?
Any "lightbulb" AHA! moments when you discovered some particular thing to do (or not do) you might pass along?
And finally, where do you find your miniature carpenters to do that lovely construction?
Thanks!
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Hi Terrement
The wooden building are made from 5mm thick balsa and are braced at the corners for added srength though as the buildings are based this might be a bit of overkil on the single storeys. I use mdf laser cuts for the windows and railings.
The adobe structures are 5mm foamcore covered with paint mixed with filler/ spackle - the corners are covered with PVA and newspaper to hide the joins. I did a "how to" in WSS 115.
The "how to" comes straight from Gary's articles plus trial and error which plays a big part. The original articles have some great inspirational photos - I wanted Silverado rather than Deadwood hence the more colourful store fronts.
All the buidings have removable roofs, and the two storeys removable first floors, out of habit but I personally rarely put figures inside.
I've decided to base these as it gives added strength plus it gives you the option of adding little details but it limits their flexibiity in gaming. I constantly debate which is better especialy if your game multiple periods and don't have an unliited space and budget.
The Aha would be get stuck in. You'll make mistakes. Things willl not be perfect but very rarely will the project be ruined.
Hope that helps.
Phil
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Phil,
Thanks a lot, and yes indeed it does help. I'm hoping to start minor construction this summer. I recognize that there will be errors of my own once I start and I'll learn as I go.
Much like learning how to paint. :)
John
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Great work. Looking forward to seeing the completed set up.
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With the addition of the "Palace" Saloon for Purgatory - the Anglo part of town is complete for the moment.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz4dQtYn/WP-20220301-00-08-08-Pro.jpg)
Yes - I remembered to include the Church!
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The mdf stairs finally arrived for the Saloon
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(https://i.postimg.cc/HLr7w9G3/WP-20220301-00-04-26-Pro.jpg)
Although I will add some fields and a gold mine in the future.
Next up I'll be using the fruits of "Take your daughter to work" day to make the Mexican quarter of San Miguel...
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNdhQpMw/WP-20220216-14-20-43-Pro.jpg)
More pictures on my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Looks great. You've got enough for a Western Game.
If you are anything like us you will find one scenario
will lead to making another building, then another.
You mock up a 'Newspaper' as a player intro. to a game...
so... when one player says, 'I'm gunna teach that S.O.B.
of an editor a lesson'. Well you NEED a newspaper office,
don't you? ??? ??? ???
Having sold off my 54mm stock, some time ago, I am
in the process of starting over in 28mm.
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Managed to finish off the Mexican quarter for Purgatory over the weekend.
Before the Gringos came Purgatory was known as San Miguel.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSpR1HwM/WP-20220301-00-24-17-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpMWtPTc/WP-20220301-00-24-02-Pro.jpg)
Some shots of the individual bases:-
(https://i.postimg.cc/63sTdsf5/WP-20220301-00-14-07-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rsMmPSHB/WP-20220301-00-15-22-Pro.jpg)
Although primary for my TWI and Wild West games I think these would suit for The Peninsula and Pirate games.
This now completes this project and it's on to the terrain for Roman Britain.
Lots more photos on my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Terrific work, they look great. Its the small details like the horno, ramshackle fences etc which really bring them to life. :-*
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They are a very nice addition to your Western stock. :-*
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Those new addition flat-topped dwellings are outstanding and very inspiring. Do like the use of walls and extras to add interest to the square buildings.
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I concur with all the comments above on San Miguel - which can be its own town when not being quartered in Purgatory. There are ideas there worth 'borrowing' for sure.
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Lovely :)
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The Mexican Quarter looks great! Tequila for everyone! Well done!
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Gorgeous work! Inspirational!
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Phil
WOW, nicely done! I’ve always wanted to create a “Magnificent Seven” layout, and you are definitely adding to the enthusiasm.
Thanks for posting your project here on LAF. I don’t use FB, so this is extremely helpful.
Dan
PS. https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=110375.0
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Does anyone have an actual map of the original Magnificent Seven town? I've tried to piece one together from different scenes, but didn't know if anyone had an actual map
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I thought someone on LAF did one a while ago.
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Try here
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=93047.msg1150221#msg1150221
:)
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For those not on Social Media here's some photos of the individual buildings.
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Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Excellent work. They look just as good if not better up close :)
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Your San Miguel buildings look really good, you've managed to get a very believable texture on the adobe with a similarly believable colour.
You mentioned earlier in the thread that you usually have lift off roofs, I can see that the trap doors might be handles to lift them out but I can't see a gap arround the edge are these fixed roofs or lift off ones. If the later you've done a brilliant job of disguising the edge.
The structures that look like domed bread ovens, are they water wells with a door on, I've not come across this type before.
Cheers
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The structures that look like domed bread ovens
Might be just that for cooking tortillas. Common for flatbreads in the middle east. Found pics in search for "adobe ovens" and "cob ovens" but couldn't get pics to show with the link
Thanks for the links to the map for the village., and the post has great pics from the flick.
In the pics, I think it is a corn crib that Calvera and his men are riding past - easily done with stained matchsticks cut to length. Nearby there are many examples of what looks like vegetation tied up in pyramid shape
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/9593487@N07/49820191922/in/album-72157672457119536/)
The grouping and location suggests that isn't where they grew. Anyone know if that's how they dried corn on the stalk before harvesting the cobs?
Tinned Fruit - thanks for the close-ups of the individual buildings. Great pictures.
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Those are definitely bread ovens. When I was a docent at Sutter's Fort in Sacramento, California many years ago I worked on one of those ovens baking bread - while kids churned butter. You can bet we were the most popular attraction in the fort when the bread came out of the oven and cooled down enough to serve. Since the bread was 'period' it was okay but I'd choose something more palatable if I had my choice. Indian fry bread is better - and on rare occasions you can get it fresh at Indian Grinding Rock state park an hour or so away from the fort into the foothills of the Sierra Nevada range. Just watch out for the rattle snakes! In the same area are several Gold Rush era towns - sometimes a little touristy but still cool little places to explore. Not sure how much others realize California was a center of the Old West but it sure was - it, along with Oregon, were the primary destinations of most people traveling west in the early period (1840 - 1870 or so). The famous Cow Towns came later.
Agree that the coloration of your models is right on.
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Lovely builds :)
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Those are definitely bread ovens.
That's what I thought at first but they have wooden doors and I would have thought an oven with a high temperature fire inside wouldn't have a wooden door. All the clay ovens I've come across have an opening rather than wooden door.
I'm in Spain at the moment and there are still a lot of wells or Fonts in the mountains and they are all covered to a greater or lesser extent to keep rubbish out of the water which is why I asked the question.
They look good whatever they are supposed to be.
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Thanks for all the kind words.
I blatantly stole the idea from Nick (Malamute) and am reliably informed they are Horno ovens. I added wooden doors to keep the critters out plus I like the look - I'm not great for functionality. If t looks good to me it's in!
The roofs are removable and the roof access are for ease of taking them out. Usually I don't bother with stuff on the roof as it impedes figure placement. I just use cut down roof supports whch allow the roof to pop up if you press your finger in the right place. The roofs are custom cut from 3mm mdf after the buildng is finshed to get a good fit and I think the angle of the photo helps deceive the eye.
Hope that helps though I doubt it does!
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Thanks for the answers, after I asked about your roofs I found some older pictures you'd posted and the join was visible but still looked good.
I've done this myself in the past but my join was pretty poor....I must do better next time.
Cheers
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Just a bit more on the ovens and their doors. We burned down the fuel (wood) to charcoal and then heated the bread over the coals so the doors are their to keep the heat in once the cooking starts - so the doors are entirely functional and historical.
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I would have gone with pizza oven but given the current fad of the witless, middle-brow and middle-class is making their own sourdough, a bread oven is a sign of the times. :D
Lovely builds but if you are in any way anal about such things, they probably won’t stretch to Central America or the Caribbean. The propensity in such climes to occasionally heavy rainfall means that flat roofs aren’t the most sensible option. More pantiling required.
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Mine - all mine! Got these track and cart pieces from Ainsty Castings
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCr0dFzD/WP-20220306-17-21-01-Pro.jpg)
They are lovely and will be the centre piece of the mine entrance. Not looking forward to the mess that carving up this foam is going to cause.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5tQ4bMjS/WP-20220306-20-41-41-Pro.jpg)
I have got a couple of islands on order from Amera Mouldings as an alternative. I used some of these for hills a while back and was very pleased with the look. The ones below are from their "Islands and Landscapes" range though the ones I've bought are a smaller footprint.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MG40y1Lp/WP-20191105-11-33-18-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vTv6Sn09/WP-20191105-11-37-07-Pro.jpg)
So far I'm pleased with the project which is made from things I already had in the house apart from £5 on mdf stairs, £7.50 on the Ainsty track and £9 on the hills.
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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I have a lot of that Ainsty Mine bits, so will follow
your progress with interest.
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Likewise... Particularly interested in the mine entrance and what that might look like...
For anyone who wants a mine but does not want to spend too much time and or money see the Print & Paste alternative which can then also be useful for planning a mine made from wooden bits, small-scale toy train tracks etc. Time to get out the matches and bits of balsa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gu_3EHsaEs&ab_channel=CrookedStaffTerrain
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Guys
Check out the tutorial that starts halfway down this linked page:
https://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/t397p100-cathayan-borderlands-scenery-wipcompleted
Dan
https://servimg.com/view/11755984/428
https://servimg.com/view/11755984/429
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=187401
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=256289
http://cianty-tabletop.blogspot.com/2009/04/dead-men-tell-no-tales.html
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uhs2xjZuhxM/Sdyesh4VhEI/AAAAAAAAAZo/NZuTWUkR6X4/s1600/tunnel3.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uhs2xjZuhxM/SdyeLXzYVpI/AAAAAAAAAZg/vpCO7MEMteg/s1600/tunnel2.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uhs2xjZuhxM/SdyfATrRXZI/AAAAAAAAAZw/HSKM0zsVg9A/s1600/tunnel4.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uhs2xjZuhxM/SdyfVXyyAUI/AAAAAAAAAZ4/_B9indPxQE4/s1600/tunnel5.jpg)
(http://i75.servimg.com/u/f75/11/75/59/84/tunnel16.jpg)
Here’s something a lot simpler, I think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7dJCf9yEBE
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Fantastic idea and great looking terrain!
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Also found these individual mine carts:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133515417328?hash=item1f162396f0:g:xz0AAOSwyKBfWVom
Dan
PS. And here’s another modular cavern complex that could easily be turned into a mine:
https://saskminigamer.blogspot.com/search/label/Cavern
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A Spanish/ Mexican style adobe church in 28mm suitable for anywhere hot, smelly and dusty. A bit too upmarket for Purgatory/ San Miguel though but ideal for three Irish priests. #wargaming #terrain #wargame #sharppractice #whatacowboy https://pic.twitter.com/bcLBPRyGAP
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpgDsXQv/WP-20220425-20-18-14-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jnyk3j6v/WP-20220425-20-19-00-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6d1mtR6/WP-20220425-20-20-22-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/prz54RtB/WP-20220425-20-21-18-Pro.jpg)
More photos on my FB page https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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That's Great Phil. :-*
I haven't scratched my adobe itch for ages. ::) Now you have got me thinking about building another church! lol
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Better adobe itch than dhobi itch.
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Very nice church. Well done!
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Finally got around to finishing the mine entrance.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nhJRkxyn/WP-20221230-16-38-49-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HjG5Tpwn/WP-20221230-16-39-27-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QCK1LBWv/WP-20221230-16-39-54-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BnBh7y3H/WP-20221230-16-40-16-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DyspL0YC/WP-20221230-16-41-03-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrZmvwZq/WP-20221230-16-41-58-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/59XR9n5W/WP-20221230-16-41-36-Pro.jpg)
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Lovely :)
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Looking good! 👍
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Nicely done
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Looks good to me. Well done!
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Nice to see this thread active, so much good stuff.
I agree, the mine entrance is nicely modeled. And I understand the need for game compactness.
But! (of course)
Why the heck would any miner dig into that tiny pile of rock when he can just dig straight down! I live smack in California's Gold Country and been up and down the Mother Lode many times, and visited a few hard rock mines. No self-respecting miner would do that. I guess you can go with that they are a bunch of novice gold miner's who didn't know better! lol
Living so close to the mighty Sierra Nevada mountain range gives me a different perspective. Around here, thousand foot peaks are just little tiny foothills. Real mountains rise up into the 10,000 foot range - and higher. I always cringe when I read about the battle of the Monogohela and the 'steep' mountains that had to be overcome. Yeah, I know, time period and all - and hauling artillery and supplies, but out here such a 'mountain' is an easy hike. :D
Again, lovely work and looking forward to what else you have to show us.
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Thanks for the kind words.
Why the novice prospectors, newly arrived from Europe, are mining here after being assured by the local sellers that it was "a sure thing" will, no doubt, keep the fledgling legal profession in Purgatory busy for many billable hours...
15 I think you might have answered your own question as regards to the trade off between realism and playability ( and storage!) - I did consider using a more substanial rock formation or even making it a corner piece but playability, and perhaps sanity, won out.
Having built ( and sold on) Purgatory and San Miguel three times last year I'm beginnig to question the practicality ( and storage) of having so much terrain for a six aside skirmish game. San Miguel has multiple uses for my TWI/ Pirate and ACW in the West games but for now 28mm Purgatory will be retired especially as I found these while putting the Christmas decorations away...
(https://i.postimg.cc/GtTynJrC/WP-20221230-16-59-57-Pro.jpg)
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tinned fruit, you make a well reasoned response. Except! Sanity? In wargaming? Perish the thought! :o
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Decided that San Miguel would have a less substantial place of worship so I decided to repurpose a Warbases Modular building I picked up for a £5.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zn2CNc6j/modular-5-454x640-800x800.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXLbRnc9/WP_20230216_20_07_29_Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKVd60Qs/WP_20230216_20_09_16_Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSHL8bZs/WP_20230216_20_10_07_Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSNJzGgf/WP_20230216_20_10_43_Pro.jpg)
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Good job on that chapel.
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Lovely work and the pot near the door is a lovely addition - where did you get said pot from?
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Looks amazing!
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Jolly nice work. :-*
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La Iglesia de San Diablo? ;)
Whatever it's parish is, it sure looks nice!
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Who is the bride that will marry Archie?
Very nice looking capilla, lovely work, you could use that all the way to the Darién Gap and a bit beyond.
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Very nice conversion of a Warbases building :)
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The pots and jugs are 3d prints from Sabotag3d https://www.sabotag3d.com/
You might need to message him as they are not on the site.
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8) Wow that’s fantastic 8)
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Surely the latest iteration should be San Filippo? lol lol
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Penultimate 28mm addition for San Miguel but useful for the Peninsula and Italy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZwfFWJL/WP-20230910-14-35-33-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gh8GW7cN/WP-20230910-14-36-03-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJtL5R1m/WP-20230910-14-36-37-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHJfbrTm/WP-20230910-14-37-07-Pro.jpg)
Thanks for looking.
Phil
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Nicely done :)
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A lovely looking gaming piece
:)
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Great work! 👍
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Yep - that looks grand!
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Excellent terrain piece! But how did you do the railing on the balcony?
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Thanks - the balcony railings are cut down Fenris Games street furniture 2mm lasercut mdf - https://fenrisgames.com/shop#!/FGFE03-Railing-Modern-Street/p/10366071/category=2202360
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One last building:-
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjKfJRz0/WP-20230910-14-39-00-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1xfmJPc/WP-20230910-14-39-48-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XND9DS0d/WP-20230910-14-40-06-Pro.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/43596j5K/WP-20230910-14-40-29-Pro.jpg)
Yes - I know I keep forgetting to put a wash on the lower parts of the walls!
Thanks for looking.
Phil
https://www.facebook.com/tinnedfruit/
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That looks marvelous Phil. :-* :-*
My only suggestion would be around the overhang of the eaves. Pan tiles are laid on wooden battens and running some out to show how the tiles are supported would enhance the model IMO. Simple addition just some matchsticks suitably painted. Would also break up the smooth surface of the underside of those tiling sheets.
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That looks good. And I think Carlos' suggestion is a good one.
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Another fine build. Shame about the wash lol