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Title: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Alan maguire on January 22, 2022, 05:44:46 PM
28mm scale and other scales...

Will also be sculpting other Historical miniatures in Different scales.

I have included a Calpe Prussian and a Front Rank Austrian i believe , to show comparison's in scale/size

I will be adding updates to this post as things progress...



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Post by: ian220756 on January 22, 2022, 06:48:13 PM
They are awesome - full of character 👏👏👏
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 22, 2022, 07:04:35 PM
Thanks Ian ! much appreciated.
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Post by: OB on January 22, 2022, 11:36:15 PM
Count me as impressed.
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 12:04:00 AM
Thanks OB !
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Post by: Norm on January 23, 2022, 06:41:19 AM
I have much admiration for those that can sculpt and bring such character and life to figures - these are lovely.
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 08:16:30 AM
Thanks Norm! That's nice of you to say...
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Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 23, 2022, 09:29:45 AM
Great work! I admire your sculpting ability, you have made faces that bring the figures to life.
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 10:21:31 AM
Thanks much Grumpy Gnome ! That's good to hear...
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Post by: Roo on January 23, 2022, 10:23:54 AM
Those are class, what’s the plan or just for cos you can( and may I say better than some commercial folk)
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 11:27:28 AM
I normally sculpt fantasy and sci-fi and thought i would have a go at breaking in to the Historical side of things, as for the plan, at this stage I'll crack on with sculpting these and others and see where it goes Roo... Thanks, that is a massive compliment !
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 05:10:27 PM
Bit more progress...
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Post by: MaleGriffin on January 23, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
Looking fantastic!
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 08:15:13 PM
Thanks, Much appreciated MaleGriffin !
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Post by: vodkafan on January 23, 2022, 08:38:16 PM
Very natural poses and great faces!
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 23, 2022, 09:36:48 PM
Thanks a lot vodkafan !
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 25, 2022, 06:45:51 PM
Done more work on the straps and epaulets.

It takes getting used to to keep everything consistent on Napoleonic sculpts.

Hats off to other sculptors that do this all the time (Historical/Napoleonic's etc...

I am trying to decide to either do poses for units or individual sculpts or sets of 2-3 miniatures that would make up a scene of battle...?

What do you think...?

P.s I included a Perry miniature just to show scale/size etc.
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Post by: ian220756 on January 26, 2022, 08:59:10 AM
Still looking good - however the marching figures need to be as per the Perry figure - that’s how the French marched not sloped shoulder ?
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 26, 2022, 09:44:30 AM
Thanks Ian, not sure what you mean by sloped shoulder...? I can change the arms, not a problem... You are talking about the 2 marching sculpts in the photo's and not future marching poses?
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Post by: ian220756 on January 26, 2022, 11:55:24 AM
The French marched as per the attached
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 26, 2022, 12:58:52 PM
Thanks for the info Ian !
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 26, 2022, 03:10:55 PM
Does he look correct now?

Will tidy up more on hands when the putty is cured so i can carve it where i need to.
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Post by: ian220756 on January 26, 2022, 09:20:45 PM
Hi Alan
If you study the picture I posted - the French put their musket in the crook of their arm and their arm across their chest - it was unique to the French I believe because the British marched as per your design
Please feel free to ignore me !
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 26, 2022, 09:31:38 PM
Hi Ian,

I won't ignore, I appreciate your input and advice...  I want to get it right so I'll have another pop at it tomorrow.

 It's either right or it's not and it's not..

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Post by: Alan maguire on January 27, 2022, 06:16:16 PM
Arm change to the correct position ( I hope! :D )
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Post by: manic _miner on January 27, 2022, 08:08:02 PM
 Your sculpting is coming along great Alan.

 I think most companies that do historical figures would would have one head done with head gear and blank face.Same for the back packs and such items which repeat on the figures.Then get them moulded and cast up to use on different body types/poses.Saves having to do lots of the same thing over and over.The heads could then be finished with what ever facial hair and such as needed.
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 27, 2022, 08:19:25 PM
manic _miner Thanks ! much appreciated.

That had crossed my mind and is a very sensible idea for sure, but at the moment i don't really have any plans for these so just gonna sculpt a selection of poses as i am just having fun for now as i am not really in to running a company and doing all that side of things as sculpting is enough for me.

If any situation or circumstances arise that i was doing a commission for multiple units then i would need to go down that route, does that all make sense...?

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Post by: ian220756 on January 27, 2022, 08:50:02 PM
That’s perfect - great work Alan - now if you could make him in 40mm I’d be really happy 😁
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 27, 2022, 09:18:28 PM
Thanks Ian! and thanks for the help and the kick up the backside! ;)

40mm ? I i could make his neck longer...?

You don't really see much 40mm about.
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on January 27, 2022, 09:23:24 PM
those look fab

out of interest where do did you get the napoleonic muskets from?
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 27, 2022, 09:30:49 PM
Thanks  Kikuchiyo !

I sculpted the musket and had a mold made and got some cast in metal....
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on January 27, 2022, 09:55:05 PM
they look great, was hoping there was a site somewhere that offered nap firearms

It's definately an untapped market whether cast in metal or resin
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 27, 2022, 10:03:54 PM
 Kikuchiyo Thanks!

I am not aware of anywhere that sells separate Nap weapons etc
 
I would guess that it is most likely someone somewhere sells 28mm accessories and may have muskets of sorts  but you'd likely be restricted to personal use only... 

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Post by: vodkafan on January 27, 2022, 11:18:37 PM
The Character figures idea with just a few in a set is certainly a viable idea- it has worked great for Captain Blood.  Whether for dioramas or skirmish gamers or just to add a few different figures into a unit.
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 27, 2022, 11:42:44 PM
Yeah i totally agree  vodkafan.

Yeah i like the idea of Character figures, no limits i reckon with how much you could do...

Not heard of Captain Blood.



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Post by: vodkafan on January 27, 2022, 11:54:36 PM
https://www.bloodyminiatures.co.uk/

He is a member of this great forum. Started his miniature range last year.
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 28, 2022, 12:07:25 AM
 vodkafan OK I'll check him out. Thanks!
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 30, 2022, 06:12:40 PM
The first sculpt finished.

More on the way...
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Post by: vodkafan on January 30, 2022, 08:11:13 PM
Excellent sculpting Mr Maguire  :o
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 30, 2022, 09:01:04 PM
Why thank you Mr Vodkafan  :)
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 31, 2022, 12:25:59 PM
Another French Nap finished...
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Post by: Alan maguire on January 31, 2022, 12:27:21 PM
Wondering if the Nap sculpts need blanket rolls above their back packs...?
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Post by: vodkafan on January 31, 2022, 08:55:47 PM
I always thought the thing rolled on top of the pack was the greatcoat (which they are wearing) but I could be wrong...
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on January 31, 2022, 09:06:17 PM
I always thought the thing rolled on top of the pack was the greatcoat (which they are wearing) but I could be wrong...

I think it was but would imagine in winter they would use the slot for a blanket too

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Post by: Alan maguire on February 01, 2022, 07:43:23 AM
Vodkafan : I was thinking the same thing but then sure i seen some wearing great coats and some type of blanket roll on the back...?
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 01, 2022, 08:54:30 AM
Kikuchiyo : Yes that would make sense for sure.
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 01, 2022, 06:30:21 PM
A couple of Naps, W.i.p sculpt.

A Drummer, he will will be holding drum sticks and resting his hand on his Drum and in his right hand will be holding his Sabre. I think it's called a sabre :D

One loading his musket or putting the powder in... once the body and head is done i will adjust the wire for the arms in to the correct pose...

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Post by: vodkafan on February 01, 2022, 11:21:30 PM
Such a tease...if they are never going to be for sale commercially  :(
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 01, 2022, 11:48:41 PM
Never say never Vodkafan ! somebody might pick them up  :)
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 07, 2022, 09:18:03 PM
Progress  so far on the French Napoleonic sculpts, 4 done so far, finished number  4 today.

One more to do, the French Drummer and see what  to sculpt  next...

 Indian Mutiny had crossed my mind. Just getting the feel of sculpting uniforms etc...
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 11, 2022, 11:04:26 AM
Looking to sculpt some Indian mutiny however the only uniform reference i can find seems to be of the front of the uniform...? none of the back, Any help is very welcome. Thanks...
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 28, 2022, 01:07:18 PM
Still working on 28mm scale sculpts and thought i would try a 40mm scale Napoleonic. Here he is next to one of the 28mm scale sculpts.
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on February 28, 2022, 07:52:13 PM
I'd love to see your take on a French Silver Bayonet Unit
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 28, 2022, 09:00:16 PM
Kikuchiyo .....

What are the silver  Bayonet Unit ...?
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on February 28, 2022, 09:04:16 PM
Silver Bayonet is a Napoleonic Gothic Horror tabletop game

Less uniform or unit structure than wargaming

It's all about the characters and your sculpts have it in spades
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 28, 2022, 09:15:12 PM
Kikuchiyo ... Thanks....

Sounds cool .

When you say less uniform, so how do you identify different nationality's ?

So you'd have to create different characters ? from different countries etc ?

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Post by: Kikuchiyo on February 28, 2022, 09:30:44 PM
There's more info on the gothic subforum but bacially its a small unit gothic narative game

You pick a country and get up to 8 in your unit, aside for the gothic hunters, occultists etc.

you could have a sapper, infantryman, grenadier, guard, cavalryman on horse or foot for example

but when I say it's more about character than uniform(ity) there is less requirement for the models to be exactly historically acurate

here is the start of my British unit for example



Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on...
Post by: Alan maguire on February 28, 2022, 10:40:41 PM
Kikuchiyo ...

Sounds a lot more relaxed than sculpting  historically accurate miniatures.

I will have a think and see what i can come up with.

Can you add your own kit etc...? or is there a line you don't cross so they don't look silly...?

I guess i could start with a french grenadier, just wondering what pose and kit etc...

Would they be best suited in action poses etc...?

Your minis look cool, liking the sapper!

You mean the gothic sub forum on Lead adventure...?
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on February 28, 2022, 10:54:50 PM
Your minis look cool, liking the sapper!

You mean the gothic sub forum on Lead adventure...?

Thanks and Yep :D

Pose wise think rough and ready

no lines outside of period gear as far as I can tell, if you check out the range from northstar you''ll get some idea of what the lines are
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Post by: Alan maguire on February 28, 2022, 11:09:50 PM
OK cool :)

I can't seem to find the sub forum...?

OK i will check them out.

French grenadier vampire hunter ...?
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Post by: Kikuchiyo on February 28, 2022, 11:15:09 PM
plenty of threads here

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?board=6.0
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 01, 2022, 12:00:51 AM
Thanks Kikuchiyo !
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Post by: Grumpy Gnome on March 01, 2022, 08:43:28 AM
Yes, your sculpts do indeed have a lot character. Great faces, really excellent sculpting that displays the personality of the miniature.

The Silver Bayonet might be a way to help you express your artistic ability with its focus on individuality.
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 01, 2022, 11:32:54 AM
Grumpy Gnome :

Thank you.

Yes,  I have been browsing gothic to get some ideas for characters and 18th century clothing.
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 08, 2022, 11:28:52 AM
Working on some sculpts which hopefully might suit The Silver Bayonet game...

3 Sculpts so far... 1 French and 2 British.

Any thoughts on what to put or pose with regards to the unfinished arms etc...?

Slightly lost with what characters to do, Sculpting them is not a problem...

Thanks...
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Post by: SJWi on March 08, 2022, 12:59:21 PM
Alan, as well as Silver Bayonet you might look at something like the Two Fat Lardies Sharpe Practice 2 which makes more use of individual characters/leaders. Where do you plan to sell these ?
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 08, 2022, 02:36:19 PM
@  SJWi

Thanks for that, I will check it out.

I don't have any plans as yet, I started sculpting Historical to see how i did and try something new/different as i normally sculpt fantasy and sci fi. 

Started with Napoleonic if you look back to the very beginning of this topic and then i was going to do some Indian mutiny and got distracted with Silver Bayonet as one of the members mentioned it and here is where i am at right now...

I may just sell them as i sculpt them. 
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Post by: MaleGriffin on March 08, 2022, 03:49:12 PM
Absolutely fantastic! I particularly love the faces! I would love to be able to purchase them for Silver Bayonet (and Sharp Practice!)
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 08, 2022, 05:05:05 PM
@    MaleGriffin


Thank you. Much appreciated.

No plans as whats happening with them as yet ! but i will update as soon as anything changes...



Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on...
Post by: Alan maguire on March 10, 2022, 06:01:34 PM
More work on some of the sculpts.

New Sculpt! Vampire Lady, gave her fangs which i am kinda OK with so far...

Both sculpts are W.I.Ps
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 16, 2022, 07:27:50 PM
More progress on the sculpts...
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 17, 2022, 08:27:09 PM
A British sculpt, W.i.p
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 18, 2022, 08:43:16 PM
Another W.i.p
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Post by: Alan maguire on March 28, 2022, 06:59:55 PM
Sculpts so far, "Silver Bayonet" some more or less done and some still W.I.Ps
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Kikuchiyo on March 28, 2022, 07:19:42 PM
VERY COOL
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Thargor on March 28, 2022, 07:32:58 PM
All Units are led by an Officer (equipped as you like) who can recruit up to 7 other soldiers for his elite monster hunting Unit.

For the French you can include any of the following:

Artillerist - Hand Weapon and Pistol
Doctor - Hand Weapon and Pistol
Grenadier - Musket
Guard - Musket
Heavy Cavalryman - Hand Weapon and Pistol, wears a Breastplate
Infantryman - Musket
Junior Officer - Hand Weapon or Fencing Weapon and 2 Pistols
Light Cavalryman - Hand Weapon and Pistol
Marine - Musket
Native Scout - Musket or Heavy Weapon
Occultist - Hand Weapon
Sailor - Hand Weapon and Pistol
Sapper - Musket and Heavy Weapon
Supernatural Investigator - Fencing Weapon and 2 Pistol or Heavy Weapon and Pistol
Veteran Hunter - your choice of weapons
Vivandiere - Heavy Weapon
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Bloggard on March 28, 2022, 08:41:34 PM
those are fantastic  :-*
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Alan maguire on March 28, 2022, 09:14:50 PM
Thanks  Kikuchiyo ! :)
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Alan maguire on March 28, 2022, 09:15:41 PM
Thanks Bloggard ! :)
Title: Re: S ! ome Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Alan maguire on March 28, 2022, 09:21:50 PM
Thanks for the info  Thargor ! That will help a lot.

Thanks for taking the time to type it all out :)

This info only applies to the French ???

I kinda  winged it when i sculpted these 5 sculpts as did not have this type of info so not sure if they will be suitable for The Silver Bayonet...Although the Lady vampire would work ok...
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Thargor on March 30, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
Each Nation has access to unique types of Soldier - for example the British can't take a Guard or a Vivandiere, but can take a Highlander and a Rifleman, Russians can have a Champion of Faith, Irregular and a Werebear, but can't have Guard, Native Scout, Occultist or Vivandiere.
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Alan maguire on March 31, 2022, 09:03:22 AM
@    Thargor

Thanks for the info!

I may call on you for info if i need it if That's OK ...?
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Thargor on April 01, 2022, 12:07:05 AM
No problem at all...happy to help.
Title: Re: Some Naps I have been working on... "Silver Bayonet"
Post by: Alan maguire on April 01, 2022, 08:07:21 AM
@Thargor

Thank you!