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Title: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 14, 2022, 06:20:38 AM
Nostalgia can be a powerful thing which probably explains why I’ve recently ended up buying several batches of 1980s lead on eBay. In this particular case is was some citadel C series/Fantasy Tribes Orcs circa 1983-1986 see the links below from stuff of legends.

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c015orcs/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citc/c015orcs/index.htm)

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c015orcs2/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citc/c015orcs2/index.htm)

I had several of these miniatures the first time around (when they cost a massive 50p each) but back then I couldn’t paint for toffee. These days, while I’m no pro painter, I can at least get the paint in the right place so I was keen to slap some paint on these old minis in a way my 10 year old self couldn’t manage. When you first view these old minis in the flesh you could be forgiven for thinking they aren’t up to much. Once you get some paint on them you release that despite their age they are really nice sculpts which shouldn’t be a surprise when you release these are early Perry brothers work. Anyway here are my painting attempts.

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Pretty pleased with how these turned out and have a few a more to paint up yet having got a bit carried away on eBay  lol
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Spinal Tap on March 14, 2022, 07:06:22 AM
Great looking paintwork, especially the tortoise shell effect on that shield.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Hobgoblin on March 14, 2022, 07:45:21 AM
Great stuff! Excellent work on some lovely old figures - and fantastic shields!

To my mind, the three slotta-based ones among those are from the very best range of orcs that Citadel ever did. But the earlier ones aren't far behind - especially the armoured orcs and the champion with the mace.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Elk101 on March 14, 2022, 12:55:30 PM
I love those figures and suspect that we may have been bidding against each other recently! At least yours are now painted.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 15, 2022, 06:29:26 AM
Great looking paintwork, especially the tortoise shell effect on that shield.

Thanks I wasn't sure what to do with that shield tortoise was what I was going for so I guess it came out ok  :D
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 15, 2022, 06:36:59 AM
Great stuff! Excellent work on some lovely old figures - and fantastic shields!

To my mind, the three slotta-based ones among those are from the very best range of orcs that Citadel ever did. But the earlier ones aren't far behind - especially the armoured orcs and the champion with the mace.

Thanks.

 I had quite a few of the Slotta based Orcs in my youth but oddly I don't remember owning any of the, ex fantasy tribes, solid base orcs. All my solid base orcs back then where Chronicle/Nick Lund ones that my mum painted for me  lol. I don't know why that was I guess it was just down to what I could buy from the local model shops, limited selection, back then. Given that I was rather taken with the solid based guys, they are nicer miniatures than I gave them credit for, but they didn't really shine until I got some paint on them.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 15, 2022, 06:39:29 AM
I love those figures and suspect that we may have been bidding against each other recently! At least yours are now painted.

Could be though I've given up bidding on eBay now I just get the "buy it now" options it can be more expensive but at least I get the stuff. Far to much heartbreak, missing out on miniatures I wanted, to last second bid snipers  :(
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years
Post by: Diablo Jon on March 28, 2022, 06:31:39 AM
Return of the King….. No not that woose Aragorn but the most famous Goblin king (and his Guard) the Known world has ever seen Grom! Continuing my quest to build an Orc and Goblin army for WFB 2nd edition I’ve painted up these original 1984 solid base version of Grom’s Goblin Guard which you can find out more about here

http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr03groms/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr03groms/index.htm)

According to the the original Regiment of Renown description there is no uniformity among the regiment so I’ve tried to paint them that way with a mix of skin tones and shield designs. I still need to source the units musician hopefully one will turn up on eBay at some point.

Finally I have to give out a shout to the regimental standard bearer for the most ludicrous (see picture 6) standard design ever….

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins roll back the years - Return of the King
Post by: Diablo Jon on April 01, 2022, 06:35:59 AM
Carrying on with my efforts to build some Green skins to use with 2nd (or 3rd) edition WFB I give you Notlob and his bolt throwers. You can read all about about Notlob here

http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr14notlobs/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr14notlobs/index.htm)

I have read, though I don’t know how true it is, that GW staff named Notlob from Monty Python’s dead parrot sketch. and lets face Bolton is quite an apt name for an Orcish engineer who likes bolt throwers.

My unit actually has two more crew than the original regiment and uses the later C22/27 bolt thrower models the early version of the bolt throwers being far simpler models. The story with Notlob’s and the latter C22 orc bolt throwers, as far a I can work out, is that the Perry twins sculpted the original regiments miniatures in 1985. Later in 1986 Kev Adams was given the job of updating the miniatures using the Perry’s original models as a base at this point the bolt thrower models were also updated and the bolt throwers and crews were then sold as C22/27 Orc Bolt Thrower

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c022orcboltt/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citc/c022orcboltt/index.htm)

Interestingly, something of a rarity for a Regiments of Renown, Notlob actually had some special rules, in 2nd edition WFB, which make him and his unit rather decent.

“Notlob himself is an Orc Major Hero. He is also an extraordinary engineer, and counts as a full crew of 3 when firing a war-engine. In addition, any other engine in his unit can +1 to their normal ‘to hit’ score with war engines.”

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Notlob’s Orcish Bolt Throwing Engines
Post by: Elk101 on April 03, 2022, 04:13:26 PM
Nice old school minis there.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Notlob’s Orcish Bolt Throwing Engines
Post by: Diablo Jon on April 03, 2022, 06:34:10 PM
Thanks Elk I'm very much enjoying re-visiting my youth with these old minis. I'm painting up another two dozen 80s Citadel Orcs at the moment and then I have a bunch of Harborth's Black Mountain Boys soaking in paint stripper after that.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Notlob’s Orcish Bolt Throwing Engines
Post by: Diablo Jon on April 14, 2022, 08:16:45 AM
I’m continuing to plough through a selection of old Citadel C series Orcs and have know almost painted up enough for two 20 strong units of orcs to form the core of my Oldhammer army. The miniatures have mostly come from eBay with a few from other second hand dealers. Collecting old OOP miniatures can get expensive, especially from eBay sellers who sell individual miniatures already stripped, I certainly can’t afford to be paying £10-15 per miniature for grunts to fill up units. To get more bang for your buck the best deals are the multi miniatures lots usually covered in a, 30 year old, layer of badly applied, thick paint. Inevitably these lots come with a few miniatures that are damaged.

Commonly on, old, soft metal miniatures, of this era it’s the weapons that are broken followed by snapped legs. All the miniatures below had damaged or missing weapons but I didn’t fell like that needed to be terminal. I broke out the bits box and found alternatives or converted them in to standard bearers (of which there was a surprising lack in the early 1980s citadel lines Harboth’s boys having the only pre-slotta orc standard miniature made) I used my Pin vice and some steel rod and made sure I pinned any new additions.

1. This orc originally came with some sort Plumbata ( a military throwing Dart popular in late Roman armies) and interesting choice of orc weapon. mine had the ended snapped off so he got a nice spear instead.

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2. Another Orc that once had Plumbata (I can only assume the Perry twins were collecting a late roman army at the time they sculpted these orcs) This one had a damaged hand so in the end I removed it and replaced with hand holding a Falchion. Surprisingly other than the dart this orc had no other weapons so now he has something to hit people with.

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3. This old armoured orc once had a massive mace the head of which was missing. As I already had a second complete version of this miniature I decided to give this one an axe head from my bits box.

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4. This is another old armoured orc but this one was missing his hand axe I thought the pose would suit a standard bearer so I fashioned one from some spare steel spears the banner is hand painted in what I hope is 80s Oldhammer style.

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5. This last orc was supposed to have a halberd but again the business end of the weapon was missing leaving him with just a stick. The pose seemed perfect for a standard bearer so I cut out the old halberd drilled out his hands and added another steel spear banner. Again I hand painted the banner using a classic orc motif of a bad moon.

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I’ll finish of with a group shot. I’m pretty pleased with how these guys turned out with only a little bit of work they are ready to “Pulp some Stunties”.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Cypher226 on April 14, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
Phenomenal.  You've really captured that 80's/early 90's vibe. 

Conversions are smoothly done, they add great variety.

To what you said earlier, it never fails to astonish me just how well a lot of those sculpts hold up, once given a more modern paintjob - top case in point always being Jes Goodwin's Eldar, imo.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Elk101 on April 14, 2022, 11:05:49 AM
These figures can be quite hit or miss with people, but iblove them. Great refurbishment! The death banner orc is excellent.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Morts on April 14, 2022, 12:54:53 PM
To me the old pre slotta Orcs were the best. I have a few of those myself.
I could never get into the comical style they morphed into.
Brilliant work on those old figures - puts mine to shame.
Morts
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 14, 2022, 01:18:36 PM
Great stuff! The banners are fantastic, and the conversions are great!

I've never seen an intact version of the first dart-wielder (the guy you gave a spear); he must be among the most consistently broken Citadel figures.


To me the old pre slotta Orcs were the best. I have a few of those myself.
I could never get into the comical style they morphed into.

I feel much the same - though I'd make an exception for the very first slottabased range of Orcs (http://solegends.com/citc/c015orcs2/index.htm). But many of those were conversions of the preslotta range; for example, Axe Killer is a variant of our friend with the dart, and various others recycle bodies and heads from the preslotta era.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Cubs on April 14, 2022, 01:20:52 PM
Go man go! Best orcs ever.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Diablo Jon on April 15, 2022, 07:35:38 AM
Phenomenal.  You've really captured that 80's/early 90's vibe. 

Conversions are smoothly done, they add great variety.

To what you said earlier, it never fails to astonish me just how well a lot of those sculpts hold up, once given a more modern paintjob - top case in point always being Jes Goodwin's Eldar, imo.

Thanks. I agree Jes Goodwin's stuff ages very well. I painted up some first edition Aspect warriors a few years back that are still as nice if not better as anything Eldar GW puts out today.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Diablo Jon on April 15, 2022, 07:43:36 AM
To me the old pre slotta Orcs were the best. I have a few of those myself.
I could never get into the comical style they morphed into.
Brilliant work on those old figures - puts mine to shame.
Morts

Thanks

Great stuff! The banners are fantastic, and the conversions are great!

I've never seen an intact version of the first dart-wielder (the guy you gave a spear); he must be among the most consistently broken Citadel figures.


I feel much the same - though I'd make an exception for the very first slottabased range of Orcs (http://solegends.com/citc/c015orcs2/index.htm). But many of those were conversions of the preslotta range; for example, Axe Killer is a variant of our friend with the dart, and various others recycle bodies and heads from the preslotta era.

I have to say Darts seem like an odd weapon for orcs, a little two subtle in my mind, the slotta based version of this mini with the big axe seems more Orcy. I do have quite a few early slotta orcs, as well as the solid base Fantasy tribe ones, (mostly because collecting OOP miniatures means taking what you can get) you can see how many got a re-design when they changed from solid to slotta base.

Go man go! Best orcs ever.

Thanks seeing as finding your painted orcs on the internet was what spurred this project  lol

These figures can be quite hit or miss with people, but iblove them. Great refurbishment! The death banner orc is excellent.

Thanks
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 15, 2022, 08:13:33 AM
I have to say Darts seem like an odd weapon for orcs, a little two subtle in my mind, the slotta based version of this mini with the big axe seems more Orcy.

Curiously enough, the Orc army list for first-edition Warhammer (in Forces of Fantasy?) had Orc guards armed with darts.

I wonder if their origin might lie in The Lord of the Rings, as in this description of the Uruk-hai at Helm's Deep:

"But the Orcs laughed with loud voices; and a hail of darts and arrows whistled over the wall."

This might have nothing to do with it, of course, but early-80s miniature designers did seem to pay a lot of attention to Tolkien (see, for example, the details on the Asgard and early Ral Partha goblins: S-runes on helmets and the like). I reckon, though, that when Tolkien says "darts and arrows", he probably just means "arrows". He's fond of an archaic rhetorical technique in which the same thing is named twice ("Orcs and wolf-riders", for example; there's no doubt that the wolf-riders are Orcs).

Anyway, just a thought! I wonder if anyone ever fielded units of Orc guards based on the two dart-wielding figures.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Diablo Jon on April 15, 2022, 03:55:01 PM
Curiously enough, the Orc army list for first-edition Warhammer (in Forces of Fantasy?) had Orc guards armed with darts.

I wonder if their origin might lie in The Lord of the Rings, as in this description of the Uruk-hai at Helm's Deep:

"But the Orcs laughed with loud voices; and a hail of darts and arrows whistled over the wall."

This might have nothing to do with it, of course, but early-80s miniature designers did seem to pay a lot of attention to Tolkien (see, for example, the details on the Asgard and early Ral Partha goblins: S-runes on helmets and the like). I reckon, though, that when Tolkien says "darts and arrows", he probably just means "arrows". He's fond of an archaic rhetorical technique in which the same thing is named twice ("Orcs and wolf-riders", for example; there's no doubt that the wolf-riders are Orcs).

Anyway, just a thought! I wonder if anyone ever fielded units of Orc guards based on the two dart-wielding figures.

Ha cool I never knew that. I  to would assume Darts meant arrows, or prehaps javelins, in Middle Earth rather than late Roman or Byzantine Plumbata which is what the Citadel orcs are clearly modelled with.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Cubs on April 15, 2022, 10:33:21 PM
Thanks seeing as finding your painted orcs on the internet was what spurred this project  lol

...ah ... and the cycle of sickness goes on ...
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Rescuing Some Old 1980s Orcs
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 03, 2022, 06:08:16 AM
Finally got my hands on a 1984 TA3 Orc War Wyvern, at a reasonable price, to add to my growing Oldhammer Orc army. Sculpted by Tony Acklund (now if I could just find his orc war machine in good condition for a decent price) this was one of those models I always wanted as a kid but never managed to get. Odd, as it sounds now, but back in the early 80s £6.95 was a lot of money for, 10 year old me, and my 50p a week pocket money. Below is the Stuff of Legends entry for the miniature.

http://www.solegends.com/citta/ta3orcwyern/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citta/ta3orcwyern/index.htm)

This model is probably most famous as being used to represent the, dastardly codpiece poisoner, King Fyar in the classic 2nd edition Blood Bath at Orc’s Drift campaign box.

The last two pictures below show what the model looked like when it arrived in the post. It wasn’t horribly painted but it was bit to brown for me. So I stripped it, fitted the wings better with some strategic metal shaving, filled the gaps with green stuff and added a new base. I even had a go at using my new airbrush on the wyvern but I think I need more practice on that front. I’m pretty happy with how he has turned out and he makes a nice centre piece for my Orc army.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 03, 2022, 08:23:26 AM
Superb! Terrific work on a tremendous model!

I always liked the fact that King Fy'ar is so well equipped - with spear, sword and crossbow for taking potshots from the air.

Your green and purple scheme rings a faint bell - was there one in White Dwarf with similar colours? In any case, it looks great.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 03, 2022, 08:33:28 PM
Superb! Terrific work on a tremendous model!

I always liked the fact that King Fy'ar is so well equipped - with spear, sword and crossbow for taking potshots from the air.

Your green and purple scheme rings a faint bell - was there one in White Dwarf with similar colours? In any case, it looks great.

Thanks.

Yes the rider is a real belt and bracers Orc ready for every eventuality.

The Green and purple was pure accident originally I was going to paint him two tone green but as I was painting him I realised the wyvern had patches of feathers so went for purple in those areas as a nice contrast.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 03, 2022, 08:38:59 PM
The Green and purple was pure accident originally I was going to paint him two tone green but as I was painting him I realised the wyvern had patches of feathers so went for purple in those areas as a nice contrast.

It works very well!

I was misremembering: the one in Tabletop Heroes was blue and purple (https://www.projectaon.org/en/pdf/misc/JD-TabletopHeroes.pdf)!
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Elk101 on May 03, 2022, 10:30:02 PM
That's really nice, I like that a lot.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Cacique Caribe on May 04, 2022, 02:31:50 AM
I never thought I would say this of Orcs but … they look gorgeous!  I really love their desaturated skin colors.

Dan
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 04, 2022, 10:07:55 AM
It works very well!

I was misremembering: the one in Tabletop Heroes was blue and purple (https://www.projectaon.org/en/pdf/misc/JD-TabletopHeroes.pdf)!

Thanks that is a very cool book how have never come across it before I have no idea?
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 04, 2022, 10:08:28 AM
That's really nice, I like that a lot.

Thanks
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 04, 2022, 10:09:51 AM
I never thought I would say this of Orcs but … they look gorgeous!  I really love their desaturated skin colors.

Dan

Thanks. That will be the oil paint washes I've been experimenting with.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - King Fyar Lives! An Orc on a Wyvern
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 06, 2022, 06:52:46 AM
Here is another small batch of 1980s orcs. I’ve pretty much painted up enough miniatures for two twenty orc units one with hand weapons and shields and one with Double handed weapons. I’ve sourced the last five orcs I needed to complete those two units on eBay in the last few days so once they get here they’ll jump straight to the front of the painting queue.

All these miniatures are pre-slotta three are old Fantasy tribes orcs two from the armoured range and one from the unarmoured. The big guy with the axe on his hip clearly used the same base miniature as Harboth from the Black Mountain Boys and has the description “Chieftain” under him in the Citadel Journal 2. He will be the leader/champion of one of my orc regiments. You can see all three of these minis in their original catalogue entries here

http://www.solegends.com/citc/c015orcs/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citc/c015orcs/index.htm)

The other three are all from the Harboth’s black Mountain boys Regiment of Renown. I was lucky enough to score two great deals on two different batches of these miniatures on eBay that gave me the whole regiment with the original command but these three boys were surplus to requirements rather than waste them I painted them up and they are going to fill out the ranks of my other orc units.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Cubs on May 06, 2022, 08:49:05 AM
Great work and fantastic choice of models.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 06, 2022, 09:15:07 AM
Great work and fantastic choice of models.

Thanks.

I'd like to take credit for the choice of models but really it was what can I find the cheapest on eBay  lol

Tbf I do love the fantasy tribes/ early C series solid base Orcs they have so much character. I like a lot of the early slotta bases C series miniatures to but they seem harder to find at reasonable prices at the moment.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: fred on May 06, 2022, 12:44:09 PM
Very nicely done on some classic figures - I have several of these in my collection too, or more likely variants of them, as there seemed to be all sorts of head and weapon variations produced of the base figures.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 06, 2022, 01:27:13 PM
Very nicely done on some classic figures - I have several of these in my collection too, or more likely variants of them, as there seemed to be all sorts of head and weapon variations produced of the base figures.

Thanks.

Yes those early Fantasy Tribes Orcs seem to have had a lot of variants for each pose. I'm convinced the early citadel catalogue line drawings never captured half of them. If I'm honest I think it's a pretty good way of doing things you get a load on miniatures in the same pose that rank up well in units yet have enough variants it doesn't look like a regiment of clones.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Daeothar on May 06, 2022, 02:16:27 PM
Wonderfully ancient character, with splendid paintjobs too. Your shield designs are great!  8)
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Elk101 on May 07, 2022, 08:30:37 AM
This is a proper nostalgic thread. I love those old orc miniatures and I like the style you've painted them in, it suits the figures. I've just picked up a few more of the C15 pre slotta too to complete units and you're right, some of the early slotta prices are getting silly.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 12, 2022, 06:55:48 AM
Wonderfully ancient character, with splendid paintjobs too. Your shield designs are great!  8)

This is a proper nostalgic thread. I love those old orc miniatures and I like the style you've painted them in, it suits the figures. I've just picked up a few more of the C15 pre slotta too to complete units and you're right, some of the early slotta prices are getting silly.

Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 12, 2022, 07:00:36 AM
The Orc horde grows ever larger. Lots more to do just need to keep powering on through the pile of under coated Orcs on my painting desk.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: fred on May 12, 2022, 07:24:49 AM
Very nice, some more classics!
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 12, 2022, 08:02:21 AM
Superb!

Great to see some of that first slottabase range (Maygar Ironfist/Maniac, Axe Killer, etc.). You've done them proud!
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 12, 2022, 08:46:40 AM
Very nice, some more classics!

Thanks
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 12, 2022, 08:50:33 AM
Superb!

Great to see some of that first slottabase range (Maygar Ironfist/Maniac, Axe Killer, etc.). You've done them proud!

Yeah the early slotta mix well with the older solid base in style ( no surprise given several of them are old Fantasy Tribes Orcs re- sculpted). Even taking into account the extra height of a solid base Maygar Ironfist is a short arse. I'm assuming he so angry becuase the others orcs call him stunty...
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 12, 2022, 09:58:19 AM
Yeah the early slotta mix well with the older solid base in style ( no surprise given several of them are old Fantasy Tribes Orcs re- sculpted). Even taking into account the extra height of a solid base Maygar Ironfist is a short arse. I'm assuming he so angry becuase the others orcs call him stunty...

Very possibly!

I have a pet theory that the new sculpts in that first slottabase range were prototypes for the Citadel Lord of the Rings range in the 80s. A lot of the new ones are much more Tolkien-esque than the preceding armoured orcs; they're bow-legged, long-armed, squat and fit in well with the Orcs of the Red Eye, etc., that came after.

The one called Shock Troop or Gashcog is the best example - he's a perfect fit with the Orcs of the Red Eye. But the long arms and shorter stature of many of the others, along with the number with bows, make me think that the Perrys were more influenced by Tolkien here than they had been previously.

The earlier Fantasy Tribe orcs were very clearly influenced by D&D's Monster Manual (http://hobgoblinry.blogspot.com/2020/04/citadels-fantasy-tribe-orcs-and-d.html), and these seem to be more influenced by Tolkien, which puts the solid-based C15 and C16 ranges somewhere in between.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 13, 2022, 10:00:22 AM
Very possibly!

I have a pet theory that the new sculpts in that first slottabase range were prototypes for the Citadel Lord of the Rings range in the 80s. A lot of the new ones are much more Tolkien-esque than the preceding armoured orcs; they're bow-legged, long-armed, squat and fit in well with the Orcs of the Red Eye, etc., that came after.

The one called Shock Troop or Gashcog is the best example - he's a perfect fit with the Orcs of the Red Eye. But the long arms and shorter stature of many of the others, along with the number with bows, make me think that the Perrys were more influenced by Tolkien here than they had been previously.

The earlier Fantasy Tribe orcs were very clearly influenced by D&D's Monster Manual (http://hobgoblinry.blogspot.com/2020/04/citadels-fantasy-tribe-orcs-and-d.html), and these seem to be more influenced by Tolkien, which puts the solid-based C15 and C16 ranges somewhere in between.

All sounds very plausible to me. Interestingly I'm painting the orginal solid based Harboth's Black Mountain Boys. They have similar proportions to  the fantasy tribes orcs but the dialed back the jaws, teeth and tusks to make the heads look a lot more like the early slotta base orcs. Harboth's were of course released specifically for Warhammer so maybe these guys are the evolutionary link between the FT and first slotta based orcs?
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 13, 2022, 09:27:07 PM
All sounds very plausible to me. Interestingly I'm painting the orginal solid based Harboth's Black Mountain Boys. They have similar proportions to  the fantasy tribes orcs but the dialed back the jaws, teeth and tusks to make the heads look a lot more like the early slotta base orcs. Harboth's were of course released specifically for Warhammer so maybe these guys are the evolutionary link between the FT and first slotta based orcs?

Yes, I think that's right. The Harboth's troopers are kind of the template for the more standardised orcs that followed: no more walrus-orcs! And they have the bandy legs whereas Fantasy Tribe orcs were more upright. And like many of those early Regiments of Renown, the whole Harboth's set bridges the preslotta/slotta divide with the slottabased champion.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - More Foot Sloggers
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 25, 2022, 06:54:09 AM
My third (but not my last) Regiment of Renown for my 2nd edition WFB Orc and Goblin army. I love the old Regiments of Renown and luckily for me there were several goblinoid one. For anyone who doesn’t know who Harboth and his boys were or thought Harboth’s boys were Archers this is the original 1984 solid based regiment. Harboths Orc Archers were the second incarnation of the unit that came later in 1987. Here is the stuff of Legends entry for the original Harboth’s Black Mountain Boys

 http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr05harboth/index.htm
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There are 25 orcs including the original command. Sadly I haven’t been able to source Yaskin Forit the champion. This because Citadel only added champions to the early solid based Regiments of Renown years later. Creating several champion miniatures, for various regiments, that weirdly by this time were on slotta bases. These champions were pretty limited in number and when they do pop up on the second hand markets tend to get pricey.

Painting wise I struggled a bit with this unit. The miniatures are cool, nicely sculpted and don’t have to many details making them easy to paint but painting 22 identical miniatures can become a bit of a chore so my enthusiasm waned a bit towards the end with a consequent drop in the quality of the paint job. I batch painted the miniatures in fives and gave each five different skin tones to match the rest of my orc army. I also gave every unit member a unique shield pattern to fit the description in the regiments background

Shield – Assorted emblems prevail – often of an offensive or insulting nature. Harboth and his troops prefer to individualise their shields by scrawling offensive pictures or slogans on them



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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Harboth's Black Mountain Boys
Post by: Cubs on May 25, 2022, 07:31:45 AM
Yes man, yes!

Proper toys that is.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Harboth's Black Mountain Boys
Post by: Diablo Jon on May 25, 2022, 10:04:11 AM
Yes man, yes!

Proper toys that is.

Thanks.... but toys .....you sound like my wife  :D
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - Harboth's Black Mountain Boys
Post by: Diablo Jon on June 20, 2022, 06:59:43 AM
Finally after what seems to have been a never ending painting marathon I have painted up all the orc warriors with melee weapons for my my Oldhammer Orc army. As well as Harboth’s Black mountain boys I have three more regiments of Orcs with melee weapons. This is the first Regiment which I’ve named the Headtakers. They like to mount the heads, of defeated, enemies on a pole to act as their Standard. This unit is 20 strong and all the miniatures are Citadel Fantasy Tribe or early C series Orcs. In 2nd edition WFB terms they armed with hand weapons and have chainmail (light armour in 3rd edition) and Shield. They should be solid if unspectacular in battle.

I’ve posted up pictures of most of the orcs in this unit already so I’ll just show a few pictures of a group shot and the last few orcs I painted to finish the unit off.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - First Orc Regiment
Post by: Pattus Magnus on June 20, 2022, 07:17:38 AM
They look great, especially the shields! Always fun to see those classic figures with paint on them.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - First Orc Regiment
Post by: DivisMal on June 20, 2022, 07:40:11 AM
That last update was grandiose! I love the details on the shields. Yes, pulp the stunties, lads!
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - First Orc Regiment
Post by: Diablo Jon on June 20, 2022, 10:38:23 AM
That last update was grandiose! I love the details on the shields. Yes, pulp the stunties, lads!

They look great, especially the shields! Always fun to see those classic figures with paint on them.

Thanks chaps.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - First Orc Regiment
Post by: Diablo Jon on June 27, 2022, 10:23:09 AM
I finally got my hands on this classic model, the 1983 TA4 Orc War Machine, at a reasonable price. This was one of those models I saw, as a kid, advertised in early Citadel catalogues and dreamed of owning, Its only taken 35+ years but now it will grace my 2nd edition WFB Orc army.

This miniature was part of the TA (Tony Ackland) series that included, among others, the classic orc on a Wyvern and several fantastic demons. Here is the stuff of legends entry for it

http://www.solegends.com/citta/ta4orcwarmachine/index.htm  (http://www.solegends.com/citta/ta4orcwarmachine/index.htm)

I was in two minds about basing the crew separately or on one base. From a rules point of view having the crew, and the machine, on their own bases makes more sense in Warhammer. Aesthetically though I prefer my artillery on diorama style bases. In the end that’s what I’ve gone for but I left two holes for holding D6 dice which I can use to record damage to the machine and crew causalities.

The crew are painted the same way as the rest of my Oldhammer orcs but I gave my airbrush a go for the machine itself . I have had the airbrush since Christmas and its pretty low end. I’m not that great with it (lots more practice needed yet) but it certainly speeds up painting a big lump of lead like this.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - TA4 Orc War Machine 1983
Post by: Cubs on June 27, 2022, 01:58:00 PM
Bang, get in! Same story with me and this model, but I haven't painted mine yet.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - TA4 Orc War Machine 1983
Post by: DivisMal on June 27, 2022, 05:36:26 PM
Awesome. I’ve also been amazed by that one since a similar long time. Brillant colors on those orcs.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - TA4 Orc War Machine 1983
Post by: Elk101 on June 27, 2022, 09:34:43 PM
Very cool to see that old set get some love.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - TA4 Orc War Machine 1983
Post by: Diablo Jon on June 28, 2022, 12:13:23 PM
Awesome. I’ve also been amazed by that one since a similar long time. Brillant colors on those orcs.

Very cool to see that old set get some love.

Bang, get in! Same story with me and this model, but I haven't painted mine yet.

Thanks chaps glad to see I'm not the only fan of this old kit even at 38 years old I think it holds up really well.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - TA4 Orc War Machine 1983
Post by: Diablo Jon on July 01, 2022, 06:46:20 AM
Another classic I managed to get my hands on this time by mistake. I bought a job lot of old goblin chariots, off eBay, as I had identified them as the old Kev Adams Goblin Chariots set. When they came in the post, and I sorted through the jumble of bits, it turns out I got the Kev Adams Chariots and this little cracker to.

The Goblin Kings Chariot could well be a the most insane unit in 2nd edition WFB. In a time before Herohammer he is very Herohammer topping out 1358 points for this one model. Why I hear you ask… or maybe not…Well because the chariot and the boar are actually an imprisoned demon called Ulrista who is not only very tough but a level 4 wizard to boot (yes a magic using boar). On top of that the Goblin King Sourgutt carries a magic weapon, magic armour and a magic standard that flings fireballs. The only guy on the whole model that is vaguely normal is the driver who apparently isn’t even need to steer the sentient chariot.

Here is the Stuff of Legends page on the model

http://solegends.com/citmd/md1gkc/index.htm
  (http://solegends.com/citmd/md1gkc/index.htm)
 
My miniature isn’t quite original for some reason a previous owner cut off the blades running along the yoke…No idea why. Oddly the rules also stated the chariot had scythes on the wheels despite the fact the model never did.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - 1987 MD1 Goblin King’s Battle Chariot
Post by: Elk101 on July 01, 2022, 06:50:50 AM
Fantastic! That really is a great find.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - 1987 MD1 Goblin King’s Battle Chariot
Post by: Daeothar on July 01, 2022, 09:13:42 AM
Fits in perfectly  8)

Demon wizard boar...  :D
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - 1987 MD1 Goblin King’s Battle Chariot
Post by: Diablo Jon on July 01, 2022, 08:23:15 PM
Fits in perfectly  8)

Demon wizard boar...  :D

Fantastic! That really is a great find.

Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - 1987 MD1 Goblin King’s Battle Chariot
Post by: Cubs on July 02, 2022, 10:47:25 AM
That's madness - I had the model but somehow managed to completely miss its special rules!
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - 1987 MD1 Goblin King’s Battle Chariot
Post by: Diablo Jon on July 02, 2022, 02:05:54 PM
That's madness - I had the model but somehow managed to completely miss its special rules!

Something your opponents were no doubt grateful for.. ;)
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - 1987 MD1 Goblin King’s Battle Chariot
Post by: Diablo Jon on July 04, 2022, 06:32:13 AM
I felt my 2nd edition WFB orc army need something a bit different so I’ve added a giant. Unlike most of the miniatures in my army this is a modern miniature from Oldschool miniatures

https://www.oldschoolminiatures.co.uk/giants-85-c.asp   (https://www.oldschoolminiatures.co.uk/giants-85-c.asp)

Despite being modern he clearly plays homage to the early C28 giants from Citadel and I think he has a great Oldhammer vibe

http://solegends.com/citc/c028giants/index.htm  (http://solegends.com/citc/c028giants/index.htm)

I’ve named mine Druncan McFierceson of Clan McFierceson. Cruncan has left his mountain home, and Clan, to join some Orcs as a mercenary his preferred form of payment is copious amounts of Bugman’s beer.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with a Giant!
Post by: Diablo Jon on August 11, 2023, 06:26:52 AM
One of my projects that’s been on the back burner for a while is my Oldhammer Orc army. The other day on a whim I busted out a few unpainted miniatures I had for that project and slapped some paint on them. I wanted some Orc chariots for my 2nd/3rd edition Orc army to add some mobility to all the infantry and war machines. Unfortunately many of the early citadel orc (and goblin) chariots are pretty hard to source these days especially in good condition with all the bits or when you find one in good condition it’s a real budget stretcher. Luckily for me Old School Miniatures have an old school inspired Orc wolf chariot in their range. I’ve made a few modifications to this kit. I added some scythes from plasti-card gave the driver a shield and left off one of the crewmen supplied with the kit. I liked this kit so much I ordered two more so my orcs will have a Squadron of chariots to add to the mayhem in the future.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with an Orc Chariot
Post by: Little Odo on August 18, 2023, 10:24:53 AM
Great looking chariot
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with an Orc Chariot
Post by: Diablo Jon on August 21, 2023, 07:26:11 AM
Great looking chariot

Thanks
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with an Orc Chariot
Post by: Diablo Jon on August 21, 2023, 07:28:09 AM
Another unit for my Oldhammer WHFB 2nd edition orcs. Mostly these are solid base Fantasy Tribe orcs from the early 1980s early work of the Perry twins, three more are later 1980s Kev Adams orcs and the leader with the shield is actually from Games Workshops short lived Lord of the Rings licenced range of the 1980s. the Kev Adams orcs are of the old separate plastic shield types, as is usual for second hand miniatures, these miniatures were missing the shields. Luckily I had picked up some replacement metal ones from Old School Miniatures that come with all sorts of fun designs. These boyz should give my orcs a bit of firepower to supplement all the boys equipped for close combat. Next up a unit of orcs with crossbows.

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Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Old Hob on August 21, 2023, 04:50:44 PM
As I've said before elsewhere, I absolutely love this army. That OSM chariot looks aesthetically spot on for 2nd ed orcs and the arrer boys are brilliantly done. I hope there's more soon.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Pattus Magnus on August 21, 2023, 05:22:02 PM
Yes, those all look excellent! I love how the older figures are subtly different from each other and have a lot of character.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Cubs on August 21, 2023, 05:23:43 PM
Loving the look of those, especially the different flesh tones on the faces!
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: fred on August 21, 2023, 06:13:13 PM
Great painting.

I really like these old Orcs - which I am sure is largely nostalgia - but they certainly have lots of character.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Diablo Jon on August 22, 2023, 06:40:34 PM
Thank you kindly chaps 👍
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: tjgreenway on August 24, 2023, 02:58:07 AM
Just had a read through this post for the first time, absolutely fantastic throughout, thank you for sharing! I have a few preslotta orcs mixed in with some Asgard and Goblins from various manufacturers that I intend to use as allies in my 1st to 3rd edition Chaos army, so I'll certainly be popping back in here for inspiration when the time comes to paint them up  :D
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Diablo Jon on August 25, 2023, 10:50:06 AM
Just had a read through this post for the first time, absolutely fantastic throughout, thank you for sharing! I have a few preslotta orcs mixed in with some Asgard and Goblins from various manufacturers that I intend to use as allies in my 1st to 3rd edition Chaos army, so I'll certainly be popping back in here for inspiration when the time comes to paint them up  :D

Thanks are those the Jes Goodwin Asgard Orcs? They are such cool miniatures I especially love the wolf riders.
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: Sunjester on August 25, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
Those shields on the archers are superb, really great designs. A great paintjob as well! ;)
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 25, 2023, 11:35:44 AM
Lovely thread  :)
Title: Re: Diablo Jon's Geriatric Orcs and Goblins - now with 1980s vintage Orc archers
Post by: nickdives on August 26, 2023, 12:38:40 PM
A superb project, the chaps 80s are my favourite!