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Title: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Bravo Six on May 19, 2022, 12:15:32 PM
Taking some time out from my British Horror project to paint some Fantasy Japan characters, and one of those is a monk figure.

Has anyone painted orange robes with a degree of success? Looking for a recipe for the orange (and maybe the yellow) seen in this excellent example.

(https://i.imgur.com/wAAWq7U.jpg)
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: clibinarium on May 19, 2022, 12:23:31 PM
I don't think you need a recipe as such, so long as you have a nice orange paint you like, or even just a decent pairing of primary red and yellow to mix to your preferred shade. The important thing though is that you start from white underpainting.
 If you prime black, paint the orange parts in a good opaque white first, then your orange over that. Very few orange/yellows are opaque enough to go over black without being seriously darkened. You could go with an orange-brown over black undercoat, but it will be kinda dull looking. Going from a white undercoat will allow your yellows and oranges to be more vibrant.
Dull or vibrant are both legit choices depending on what you want of course.
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Dags on May 19, 2022, 12:28:16 PM
A flesh tone such as Vallejo Beige Red works really well as a base under oranges and yellows especially if using black primer.
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 19, 2022, 12:30:19 PM
I don't know if this would be any good for you?

(https://i.imgur.com/viwCzrW.jpg)

I did mine with a light grey primer. The orange is Foundry Orange 3B and the yellow is Foundry Ochre 4B. Then I washed the orange colour with Army Painter Red Tone and washed the ochre with Army Painter Light Tone. Works for me, might be too bright a colour compared to your posted image?
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: marianas_gamer on May 19, 2022, 07:50:28 PM
I did mine with craft paints over a black primer. If you like the look I can check my painting diary.
(http://i.imgur.com/F7HK8Sp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/F7HK8Sp)
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Michi on May 19, 2022, 09:56:32 PM
Red and yellow mixed for the proper highlighting:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiIT6cjT8sAJE4OVFh6lh5UQjIm8BmIVtBkh1qcJ-gkvEAi4mc4Yxs180-Phnsw4KHpPcUGKWFiYimEP-wfihUAJ9UwD-fBfLqWrEsFwARHSFgrDr-Ts2FPfaEBYrlR8Q8Aqm8JwOk6MBARChJr-6nQVIZkubMJREeIfDjrYL92fNmXqTlfclJfo4v4wQ=s1024)
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Bravo Six on May 20, 2022, 11:28:35 AM
Thanks for all the input guys.  Much appreciated. I think I have a path forward now.
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: AngusH on June 23, 2022, 10:56:27 AM
I started with dragon red from Army Painter I think, then highlighted up using a regular/mid orange, and mixed some bright yellow in for the end highlights IIRC. Yellow I believe I mixed some brown in to Vallejo Yellow Ochre, then Yellow Ochre just leaving the shadows, and highlighted up with a dull yellow (Vallejo German Yellow I think)

 (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/I5uemsXGM95bmdwEoTB_sXrMrLGleq6TqUW898eYryszURnjf4QTE3eFyC8mQA6fsYk4Oi1I2sqGQZY7QAnFu6V7-xRDkjokehCmyqrF4lc7oKwKcMbXauqRSTmzgwCA7CSQq75j6uk=w600-h315-p-k)  (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/I5uemsXGM95bmdwEoTB_sXrMrLGleq6TqUW898eYryszURnjf4QTE3eFyC8mQA6fsYk4Oi1I2sqGQZY7QAnFu6V7-xRDkjokehCmyqrF4lc7oKwKcMbXauqRSTmzgwCA7CSQq75j6uk=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: MaleGriffin on July 08, 2022, 04:23:38 PM
All of these are very well done! Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Cacique Caribe on August 13, 2022, 05:17:11 AM
B6

Could this be of help to you?

Dan

https://youtu.be/I-_iIbFaVD0

https://youtu.be/TZieB-ZO6MA
Title: Re: Painting Orange Monk Robes
Post by: Bowman on April 26, 2023, 11:12:16 PM
A bit of necro posting here. As far as I know, the orange, yellow and even red coloured monks gowns used saffron as a primary dye. The red gowns used other dyes to get the maroon colour. The source of this saffron was either India or Kashmir and is derived from the crocus flower threads. The colour of the crocus threads differ with the climate and terrain where they are grown.

So what is the point? The quality, dye strength, consistency of saffron dyes will show a great variability. Which means there would be no consistency with one saffron dye batch to the next. So whatever colour of orange, or yellow or even maroon you decide on using, I’m sure it will be fine….even historically accurate. The Sengoku Judai period did not have colour fast dyes so you’ll be good.  :D