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Title: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on May 27, 2022, 02:08:14 PM
Well, Here I am again, yet with another project while keeping all the others up and running.
Since my latest trip to the Ganzi/Garze region of China I've collected plenty of references and pictures of the intricate yet frugal architecture of the region.
While most of the "traditional" buildings are made in interlaced tree trunks, the truly old ones generally have a lot more plastered areas around.

I kept all of this in the backburner for quite some times, but recently with my partner we decided to take the plunge - and we made a first page of concepts, starting from memory + google + my own sketches taken while there.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/IMG_20220523_180546.jpg)

From there I knew where to go: the windows are by far the most prominent feature of these buildings, and the one that would then define the gauge for the other details. After a couple of iterations on Sketchup we came up with some satisfying results:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/282122730_733284714479601_3168864421796311368_n.png)

... and printed:
(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/IMG_20220527_150243.jpg)

The idea is to "fit" the windows into slots into the core of the building, which will be done in XPS. The plastering of those walls makes them rounded and soft, and the XPS is perfect for that.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/P5240834.jpg)

Here's a first test. We're planning to make the windows a lot more colourful, and possibly add some touches of paint to the walls as well. For now, I'm calling this a success.

Very excited about the project, we'll try to keep the thread updated!

Cheers,
Jack

EDIT: Anyone would recommend some good quality tibetan models? Peasants and such, or characters. The Copplestone ones are pretty bad, honestly, and lazily posed. I'd love to have something slightly higher quality, even 3D files would do (yes, i'm THAT desperate. I generally never print 28mm figures)
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: FramFramson on May 27, 2022, 05:15:32 PM
Waaaaawwwwwww NICE WINDOWS!
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: aircav on May 27, 2022, 09:24:19 PM
Wow  8) 8) fantastic

Really hope you manage to keep the thread updated
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: marianas_gamer on May 28, 2022, 01:20:13 AM
This looks like a greta project! I think that the crispness of the windows works perfectly with the more rounded architecture. I am looking forward to your continued work.
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: beefcake on May 28, 2022, 02:25:52 AM
Wow, that looks great. Can't wait to see the progress on this!
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: FierceKitty on May 28, 2022, 02:49:44 AM
Mmm, yes. I hope you go into commercial production.
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: has.been on May 28, 2022, 05:59:03 AM
Yes to ALL that the others have said.  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Von Stroheim on May 28, 2022, 12:25:56 PM
I thought  the Copplestone Figures are pretty good especially the cavalry. The poses of the Matchlockmen could have been more varied though.
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Sangennaru on May 28, 2022, 01:17:15 PM
Thank you all! We're gonna start with the building over the weekend, updates soon! :)

I thought  the Copplestone Figures are pretty good especially the cavalry. The poses of the Matchlockmen could have been more varied though.
The cavalry is indeed a lot better, but since we're planning to work on this project for a more pulp-alley-ish kind of games, i don't think i have use for that.
I would love to find peasants, some personalities and possibly some yaks (the copplestone ones are a good option for sure).
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Sangennaru on May 28, 2022, 05:33:16 PM
The build has started!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/IMG_20220528_173452.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/IMG_20220528_182047.jpg)

We're now planning where to put all the windows, then the plastering can start!
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Rogerc on May 28, 2022, 05:38:04 PM
Look forward to watching this develop, Cracking stuff so far.
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: has.been on May 28, 2022, 07:56:10 PM
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Look forward to watching this develop, Cracking stuff so far.

Plus one to that. :-*
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: AKULA on May 28, 2022, 08:03:53 PM
As always, I admire the ambition and respect the craftsmanship Sir

 8)
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on May 28, 2022, 08:36:05 PM
Amazing!

May I ask when you were able to visit? I was last there in 2011
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on May 29, 2022, 06:49:43 AM
I like your drawings as much as I'm going to like the finished article.

Lovely work.

Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Sparrow on May 29, 2022, 07:24:06 AM
Smashing stuff. Watching with interest!
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Lost Egg on May 29, 2022, 08:08:27 AM
Wow, I love the detail on those prints. The building WIP is looking good too.

What thickness of XPS are you using?
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: flatpack on May 29, 2022, 08:39:46 AM
Great stuff.
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Sangennaru on May 29, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
Woah - I'm amazed by the amount of replies! Thank you all!

Replying to the more specific questions:

What thickness of XPS are you using?
I generally cut my XPS with my proxxon cutter. Honestly, it's a VERY CRAPPY tool, highly inaccurate and all, but does the job for this kind of buildings.
This considered, I generally try to cut a 5 cm thick XPS into four sheets, so they range between 1 and 1.5 cm each.

May I ask when you were able to visit? I was last there in 2011
I went to Ganzi/Garze in 2019 right before the lockdown - it was a fairly intense trip, mostly hitchhiking and local busses, and i made it to a local artisan who made pottery out of black clay. I spent there 3 nights and did my own tiny pottery thing while living with his family!

...Speaking of which, starting from a picture found online we selected two first vases:
(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/6e1ac6dfcab24a3e839dc4b2f47d70b2.jpg)

...and we sculpted our own!
(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/P5290837.jpg)

Updates soon-ish, real life permitting. :)
Jack
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Lost Egg on May 29, 2022, 09:47:23 PM
This considered, I generally try to cut a 5 cm thick XPS into four sheets, so they range between 1 and 1.5 cm each.

Cool thanks. I built some ruins recently but they are only 6mm thick, next time I'll double up the foam and your walls look great.

Those pots look really good and I like the look of the black clay.
Title: Re: Tibetan Houses
Post by: Sangennaru on May 30, 2022, 06:59:10 PM
Some door frames... Shutters will follow, I'm still not sure wether they'd look better printed or hand-made.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/P5300838.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on June 01, 2022, 10:15:58 AM
Ssso.... I've been looking for convincing tibetan miniatures around and other than three porters with Yaks at copplestone and elsewhere some tibetan monks without pictures on the site I didn't found much.

Frustrated, i started doodling...

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_20220531_160105.jpg)

...and by the end of the day I had done this.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/a548d623-a2bd-4a89-9e55-7cf362a4df8f.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/P6010839.jpg)

So yeah, my first 28mm miniature ever. :)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on June 01, 2022, 11:08:07 AM
Wow....don't stop there :o
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on June 01, 2022, 12:54:42 PM
Hum, i should probably upscale the model a bit, shouldn't I?

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_20220601_134839.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Rogerc on June 01, 2022, 03:18:09 PM
Hes a short guy, Tibetans often are, just do the next one a little taller.
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on June 01, 2022, 05:04:40 PM
Hes a short guy, Tibetans often are, just do the next one a little taller.
Fair point. it's weird how height variations in miniatures feel a lot more unacceptable than in real life.

Anyways - I'm calling this done.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/tibetan.jpg)

C&C welcome, happy to hear ideas for the future!!
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: FramFramson on June 01, 2022, 07:02:08 PM
Damn he looks good!

More civvies are always welcome!
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: beefcake on June 01, 2022, 10:43:20 PM
Very nice, love the beads
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on June 03, 2022, 02:54:39 PM
Thank you!! Gotta put some paint on it asap.
Updates soon, first i have to complete the Enlisted army for Full Spectrum Dominance!

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Bravo Six on June 05, 2022, 05:06:34 PM
Amazing work on those Jack!  :o :o
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Captain Darling on June 05, 2022, 11:26:10 PM
Sangennau great job with your printing work, very good designs.
Your terrain is coming along nicely too.
I’m no expert on clothing/uniforms in this area and era but suspect general Tibetan clothing wouldn’t have changed much between 1925 and 1935 and the buildings would be the same so with your Pulp staging I reckon you could even get some Nazi villains from the Ahnenerbe involved in a scenario or two set in 1935 cause you know ‘everyone hates those guys!’…
🙂
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: sir_shvantselot on August 19, 2022, 07:17:40 PM
You’re a great artist!
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: BillK on August 20, 2022, 01:45:33 PM
Interesting topic.
You do wonderful work.
Your creativity and skill are exemplary.
The buildings, scatter terrain, and figures are all top-notch.
(Seems like a new range of figures in the offing here.)
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Mike Blake on August 30, 2022, 11:13:22 AM
Splendid!!!
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Bullshott on January 01, 2023, 05:23:08 PM
Great project. I'm watching this with interest  :-*
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on January 02, 2023, 09:12:16 AM
Thanks everyone! <3

I'm kinda stuck at the moment with the project because being a together-activity with the partner it is subject to the other activities going on... but it's not dead! Stay tuned! :)
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: sepoy1857 on January 05, 2023, 01:26:21 AM
Looks amazing!
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on January 21, 2023, 09:58:30 PM
Small updates for a change - i decided I wanted some Mani Stones, and to do those i would need some engraved patterns....
So yeah, a bit of time has been spent collecting prayers and layouts, and after making them into a blender brush I engraved them into some flat stone:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/WhatsApp-Image-2023-01-21-at-22.53.19.jpeg)

and off they go to the printer!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/WhatsApp-Image-2023-01-21-at-22.52.46.jpeg)

Updates soon, hopefully! :)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: beefcake on January 21, 2023, 11:42:20 PM
Nice. Great texture in behind as well.
Never thought of making a brush in blender to create reliefs. Looks like I know what I'll be doing with my next project :)
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on January 22, 2023, 02:24:18 PM
Excellent work!
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: FramFramson on January 22, 2023, 08:11:28 PM
So as these are embossed rather than engraved, are you going to press these into foam to make the tablets? Bloody brilliant idea if so.
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Sangennaru on January 22, 2023, 11:18:55 PM
So as these are embossed rather than engraved, are you going to press these into foam to make the tablets? Bloody brilliant idea if so.

The problem is that the real ones are embossed, not engraved (they remove all the rest of the stone, it's crazy). So the idea was to make a mold and pour plaster, which can be broken the way Mani Stone are done in many places! =)
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: FramFramson on January 23, 2023, 08:31:14 PM
The problem is that the real ones are embossed, not engraved (they remove all the rest of the stone, it's crazy). So the idea was to make a mold and pour plaster, which can be broken the way Mani Stone are done in many places! =)

ooh neat!  :D
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: ulverston on March 01, 2023, 08:16:17 AM
I can't remember the last time that I was so impressed with someones miniature hobby work! The windows are lovely and your figure for me absolutely is spot on and captures the period. I look forward to seeinf how this develops as I have often wanted to print windows and doors to insert into buildings and now I am seeing someone do it. Pure quality, thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Tibetan Project
Post by: Ignatieff on March 10, 2023, 09:53:15 AM
What a wonderful project!  Great drive, attention to detail, a wish to get it right and TALENT. So much talent. Superb mate, keep going.