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Title: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: DivisMal on June 06, 2022, 08:42:59 PM
 :o
I just watched the first three episodes and was shocked when I became aware that there was no thread discussing the series for what it’s worth and the gaming possibilities.

I enjoyed it so far though the last part was neither paced nor staged very well. The inquisitors make good henchmen for smaller skirmishes in the Star Wars universe. Vader cannot be eveywhere, right?

However: Surprised I am why Obi is so weak. Are a couple of stormies really a theat for him? Can you unlearn the force?
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Blackwolf on June 06, 2022, 09:50:34 PM
Hello DivisMal,

I think that after various Star Wars threads going south (in particular Boba Fett,which I started) members have become wary. This is the way.

Guy
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: bandit86 on June 07, 2022, 06:39:02 AM
There's lots of problems with them all, but they are still watchable and enjoyable. I was dishearten to hear about the controversy over Mosses Ingram as the 3rd sister and even though I am not so keen on the character she is doing an OK job (and as far as racist stuff goes …just uncalled  for) I do like little Leah and her line " more like grandfather" well delivered and funny.  And I like Lo La59 so much that I bought one https://hasbropulse.com/products/star-wars-l0-la59-lola-animatronic-edition Nice addition to my collections.  And I am sure some gaming will be done once they come out with the miniatures.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on June 07, 2022, 07:59:04 AM
No comment.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 07, 2022, 08:29:34 AM
The first two episodes were sort of ok, but I was glad things finally picked up some pace in the 3rd installment.

There are already some waves on how it's possible that the Grand Inquisitor dies when he clearly appears years later in Rebels, but I suspect they knew that going in, and he'll make a comeback in this series.

As for Obi Wan not being able to take down those troopers; it's been made clear that he's secluded himself and that he's suffering from a bad case of PTSD. He has given up on being a Jedi, and everything reminding him of his failure as one has a huge impact on his functioning; he's basically a broken man; he still believes he killed his best friend.

I was a bit turned off by the slow pace and the drudgery of his life in the first two episodes, but I think that was on purpose to showcase just how far he has fallen down the well of self-pitty and -loathing.

My expectations are that he'll rediscover himself over the course of the series and come out much stronger.

Oh, I and I was really surprised by the depiction of Owen Lars; a much stronger individual than the original trilogy led us to believe!

Also, I'm pretty sure I saw a DeeDee (R5-DD) cameo in episode 3, just when Obi Wan and Leia exit the cargo ship! 8)  You know; DeeDee, the sassy astromech from Pink Five (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Five) fame?  Which would mean that Pink Five might be canon again too!  :D
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 07, 2022, 09:25:18 AM
I liked it (it has faults but so does everything).

It’s making me want to make an inquisitor shuttle  lol
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 07, 2022, 09:29:26 AM
...It’s making me want to make an inquisitor shuttle  lol

It's mostly flat surfaces and simple geometry. Seach your feelings, you know you want to...  :D
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 07, 2022, 09:33:14 AM
Oh, I know I want to  lol

It’s finding the time at the moment though.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: zemjw on June 07, 2022, 10:05:11 AM
I've been enjoying it, but like others have noted, these threads can go to the dark side :-[

I did like the 3rd Sister doing the parkour moves, as leaping over tall buildings seems to be a force thing. It's much easier in cartoons, so nice to see them taking the time to do it in a live action setting.

I have the Inquisitor figure from Star Wars Imperial Assault, although I haven't painted it. Most of the light sabres from that game are very bendy and need replaced, which I haven't done yet.

I haven't seen much in the way of gaming opportunities so far (only watched the first two episodes), but it did make me wonder about an RPG in that setting. I have a couple of Star Wars RPGs, but never played them. Edge of the Empire seems most appropriate, but so many pages to read :o

I always enjoy the world building aspects of these shows, so that tends to keep me watching, even if some of the episodes are a bit iffy :)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Captain Blood on June 07, 2022, 10:09:07 AM
I’m enjoying it. Way better than The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett at any rate.
This seems a bit more grown up, and somehow feels closer to the vibe of the Star Wars movies proper.
One or two characters feel a bit off.
But overall, I like it.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Blackwolf on June 07, 2022, 10:53:31 AM
Interesting Richard ,I was going to give it a miss,and perhaps watch the Sex Pistols biog instead ,now   I might watch both :)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Maniac on June 07, 2022, 03:58:55 PM
It's better than Boba Fett, but worse than the Mandalorian.  It is probably raising more questions than solving so far.  It feels very much like it is retconning the original Star Wars films, quite heavily.

Also, I thought the Empire was always xenophobic, humans first.  Weird seeing aliens who like them.  I think having humans in those roles would have gone better.  However, good to see there are those who do like the Empire.  The rebellion, at times, was very small.  That indicates that at least a notable part of the population are loyalists (at the beginning stages of the American Revolution, it's been said it was roughly 1/3rd loyalists, 1/3rd rebel, 1/3rd in the middle) at some point.

That said, from a gaming perspective, I think there are things here.  The alien market on the not-Blade Runner planet would make some great terrain, and sneaking through the crowds to escape could make for a good scenario.  Also could be interesting to have a 'jedi' or wizard with unreliable powers having to complete some objective.  Lastly, again using some sort of port/bazar table, have the players be a group of cops/inquisitors/soldiers/other having to weed through the crowd to find the assassin/crook/fugitive/etc.

Any of those three would go really well with FFoL/GH

Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: JollyBob on June 07, 2022, 04:09:19 PM
I'm enjoying it, I think I'm still eight in my head so any Star Wars is going to be worth the watch for me.

I like the idea that Obi Wan went a bit off the grid, and think McGregor is doing a good job of getting his uncertainty across. Its weird to see a hero like Kenobi actually scared but doing what he feels is right anyway.

Yes, there's a couple of beats that don't quite gel with the whole, but nothing so far has made me want to stop watching it.

Although I did shout at the TV when he spent so long trying to deactivate the roadblock when he could have just walked round the end... worked on the Maginot Line after all...
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Cubs on June 07, 2022, 04:21:55 PM
I quite like it so far, but the first couple of episodes were ruined by me trying to get the picture right on my new TV (bloody Disney Channel reset all the picture settings and made it look like a cheap Doctor Who episode). Again, I hope Obi Wan gets his groove back a bit more, because it's really hard watching him try to reach for the Jedi skills he once had, but has deliberately let rust over the last decade.

Also, is anyone else worried that ten years after she was born, Leia appears to be a five year old girl?
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: NickNascati on June 07, 2022, 07:19:21 PM
I’m enjoying it.  Hmmn, have to come up with conversions for the Inquisitors in 15mm!
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: DivisMal on June 07, 2022, 07:29:43 PM

Also, I thought the Empire was always xenophobic, humans first.  Weird seeing aliens who like them.  I think having humans in those roles would have gone better.  However, good to see there are those who do like the Empire.  The rebellion, at times, was very small.  That indicates that at least a notable part of the population are loyalists (at the beginning stages of the American Revolution, it's been said it was roughly 1/3rd loyalists, 1/3rd rebel, 1/3rd in the middle) at some point.


I found that rather good. Imagine all the collaborations you have in historical take overss even of very unfriendly occupations, like the 3rd Reich or Stalin‘s Russia. You always have those who suddenly see a way to change their status by working with the occupiers- even if they are despised (yet not exterminated) by those.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Michi on June 07, 2022, 09:28:01 PM
I quite like it. The character is believable and this makes him better than Boboa Fett. I accept that Obi-Wan is feeling uncomfortable turning his back to Tattooine. His task was to protect Luke and now he left him alone and finds himself somewhere else in the galaxy, facing trouble everywhere, being closer to be revealed and finally even is found by Vader himself. The relative weakness suits him although I have not forgotten he was always considered the best light sabre fighter ever by the Jedi council. He just has to grow into his old shape again.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: tomrommel1 on June 08, 2022, 06:50:48 AM
I liked it so far
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 08, 2022, 08:58:46 AM
Ep 4 was the best one yet I think  :)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 08, 2022, 10:14:27 AM
Agreed; this was the first episode that gets my stamp of 'Awesome'...  8)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: DivisMal on June 09, 2022, 04:56:21 AM
Watched episode 4 last evening. And I really enjoyed it.

I liked how „Ben“ now finally started to use the Foece again, but I loved the setting even more. It reminded me a lot of one of my favorite games of days bygone- Dark Forces.

And finally after 40 years we saw Snowspeeders again. They can be used as a fast strike attack vehicle! I guess now it’s settled and I need one.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: nozza_uk on June 09, 2022, 01:53:15 PM
Saw this on a blog.

Obi-Wan Kenobi “Part I” takes place on a desert planet (Tatooine) and a breathtakingly lush planet (Alderaan).
Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace takes place on a desert planet (Tatooine) and a breathtakingly lush planet (Naboo).

Obi-Wan Kenobi “Part II” features a chase sequence on a city planet (Daiyu).
Star Wars: Episode II — Attack of the Clones features a chase sequence on a city planet (Coruscant).

Obi-Wan Kenobi “Part III” includes a heated showdown between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi wherein Obi-Wan gets burned.
Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith includes a heated showdown between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader wherein Vader gets burned.

Obi-Wan Kenobi “Part IV” has Ben Kenobi and others going on a mission to rescue Princess Leia who is threatened with torture.
Star Wars: Episode IV — A New Hope has Ben Kenobi and others going on a mission to rescue Princess Leia who is threatened with torture.

 lol
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 09, 2022, 03:04:28 PM
So the next episodes will be Ewan McGregor featuring as a voiceover only?  :D
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 09, 2022, 03:39:54 PM
And finally after 40 years we saw Snowspeeders again. They can be used as a fast strike attack vehicle! I guess now it’s settled and I need one.

Yeah  :)

When I heard Ben mention T47's I thought "Please let it happen"  lol
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Cubs on June 09, 2022, 06:41:33 PM
Ice planet next!
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: DivisMal on June 09, 2022, 08:22:28 PM
Yeah  :)

When I heard Ben mention T47's I thought "Please let it happen"  lol

And I thought it was a red herring when the jedi friends declined! Oh what a joy it was to see them in action…against troopers!!!!
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 09, 2022, 08:59:34 PM
I quite liked the little shuttle that Tia used to get him there. Fairly simple and small. Perfect for a game  :)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 09, 2022, 10:38:33 PM
It was cool: reminded me of a Howlrunner fighter actually.

But don't get distracted now; there's a shuttle to do first...  ;D
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Blackwolf on June 09, 2022, 11:26:08 PM
Yeah  :)

When I heard Ben mention T47's I thought "Please let it happen"  lol

I always thought it was canon that they were modified to suit the conditions (mine certainly is lol)?
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 10, 2022, 08:24:37 AM
It was cool: reminded me of a Howlrunner fighter actually.

But don't get distracted now; there's a shuttle to do first...  ;D

That still is a shuttle…  lol

I always thought it was canon that they were modified to suit the conditions (mine certainly is lol)?

Certainly is  :)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 15, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
Good episode  8)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 15, 2022, 12:12:10 PM
Oh bother; I'll only have the opportunity to watch it tomorrow evening at the soonest...  ::)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 16, 2022, 07:33:42 PM
Yes; that was cool again! Vader's power never fails to impress...  8)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Maniac on June 17, 2022, 07:36:06 PM
It was pretty good, with one minor quibble.  The original 3 films and even the second 3 films were really good about dead is dead.  What with Maul in the clone wars (which was a dumb plotline), then Fett, then Fennec Shand, then Cobb Vanth, and now both inquisitors....does death really mean anything?

It's gotten a little too over the top way too fast with the revolving wheel of life.  It distracts from an otherwise good episode and awesome display of Vader just toying with someone because he finds it fun.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Sir_Theo on June 18, 2022, 12:48:15 AM
I've been enjoying it. I agree with the person who said it was not as good as Mandalorian bur better than Boba Fett. It does feel authentically Star Wars.

It has also led to me buying the new Shadow Collective set for Legion, which wasn't the plan....
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: DivisMal on June 19, 2022, 07:59:21 AM
Yesterday I was finally able to watch episode 5. And I liked it!
A lot of minor quibbles and it’s certainly no Oscar material, but, boy, was it fun ro see Vader use the force. The lightsaber fight was also awesome.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 22, 2022, 01:49:46 PM
Last one done and I enjoyed it  :)

As DivisMal said, it’s not Oscar material but it’s fun and watchable not to mention the gaming inspiration  :)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: manic _miner on June 22, 2022, 03:37:41 PM
 The last episode was pretty good.

 Great to see Ben more confident and i wonder where he will be heading to with Qui-Gon.

 Also started re-watching the Book of Boba-Fett.Got the new Shadow Collective starter set this Week.For a very good price from Chaos Cards.

 I do like the new poster type pages you get in the boxes.Not sure when they started to do this as i have been-out of Legion for a bit.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Skrapwelder on June 23, 2022, 03:37:06 AM
Just finished Obi Wan. Very pleased.

Can anyone tell me the model of the shuttle he is using in the end?
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: DivisMal on June 25, 2022, 07:00:40 AM
Watched it yesterday and I am also very pleased. Pacing of the last episode was a bit odd, but the fight between Ben and Vder was cool and they even managed to explain some of the oddities of episode 4. I liked it, for instance, that Ben now calls Vader just „Darth“ as if it was his name. And now we even know why Ben tells Luke, Vader killed Luke‘s father.

Gamingwise, well we absolutely need Owen and Beru with their jedi killer guns! If they had just aimed a little better, that inquisitor would be bantha fodder!

Altogether I had a good time and will interrupt my 30YW project to paint some SW again.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 25, 2022, 07:02:25 AM
The last cameo was great  8)
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Malamute on June 25, 2022, 11:58:57 AM

"Hello There!"  ;) So great to here that line :)

Very enjoyable, especially hearing some of the original SW score towards the end. In some ways I hope they don't do a second series as this was a decent way to tie everything up for ready for Episode 4. On the other hand I really liked Ewan's performance and would be happy to see more of it! lol
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Maniac on June 25, 2022, 03:26:12 PM
Oh man the plot holes in the final episode were awful.  A mortally wounded person gets across the galaxy faster than Vader's instant teleport catch up with a fleeing ship that left him in the dust.  Followed up by a climactic duel that again ignores the Episode IV duel (and shows Obi Wan doesn't care about the rest of the galaxy which has to suffer again), and now this over arching connection between Leia and Obi Wan that is completely not there in IV (goofy line at the end doesn't cover it). Bail also leaves Luke out to dry, proving he's a total jerk that doesn't really care about anyone.

Will Smith must have shown up and flashy thinged everyone, because otherwise this series makes no sense and is all over the map for messing with continuity.

Mandalorian worked because it didn't go to the well of the same characters beyond a brief cameo.  I would put this above Fett, due to better acting and scenery, but worse in plot and story.  Worth watching, but decidedly mediocre.  There are some good gaming scenarios that could come from it, but the little bits of good in the story get buried under the bad in the end.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: NickNascati on June 25, 2022, 04:24:49 PM
I don’t know how many seasons are planned, but I’m wondering if the finale will see McGregor made to look like Alec Guinness and meet the adult Luke.
Title: Re: Obi Wan and tabletop gaming
Post by: Daeothar on June 26, 2022, 01:43:38 PM
Just finished Obi Wan. Very pleased.

Can anyone tell me the model of the shuttle he is using in the end?

Don't know, but that was almost certainly a Lancer Class Pursuit Craft in the background of that scene!  8)