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Title: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on June 07, 2022, 06:57:02 PM
P.1 Project plan
P.1 WIP minis: 12 Scots plus markers for cattle, sheep, goods, etc
P.2 Bonnet colour discussion (but see also p.17)
P.3 Finished minis: 12 Scots plus markers for cattle, sheep, goods, etc
P.4 Blackhouse with fold - WIP
P.7 Field
P.7 Log bridge
P.8 WIP minis: 12 more Scots conversions
P.9 Finished terrain
P.10 Finished minis: 12 more Scots
P.12 WIP minis : Galbraith Axes
P.12 WIP minis: 22 more Scots conversions
P.13 More cottages wip
P.14 Cottages ready for painting
P.14 Backdrop
P.15 Finished village
P.15 Village with backdrop
P.16 Bagpiper conversions
P.17 Finished minis: 24 more Scots
P.17 Bonnet colour (paints used)
P.18 More buildings, Scottish Village by Hudson & Allen



Another new project! Well, sort of…..

Bonnie Scotland

This one, set roughly 1640 to 1680, is an adjunct to my ‘Not so Merry England’ ECW project:

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=116169.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=116169.0)

I’d pondered adding some Scots to my armies but also fancied smaller scale games centred on theft, blackmail, plunder, rustling, kidnap and plain-old murder. When I saw the Scottish conversions by Abku Iskander….

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=136631.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=136631.0)

….. and then by Captain Blood….

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130330.375 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=130330.375)

….. I hived off some of the exquisite Bloody Miniatures for what will be a mid/late 17thC escapade of Scottish Lowland grudge settling.

Obvs I’m hoping that in due course there will be some official Bloody Miniatures Scots, but to be getting on I’ve converted 12. A few surplus Bicorne or Renegade minis have donated lower legs to facilitate the replacement of cavalry boots with shoes plus a few plastic feathers from Perry kits, but other than that they’re made from BM parts.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622174018.jpeg)

The following were a lot of fun to make. Being so characterful to start with, it was especially important that the conversions didn’t detract.

First Clan:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171641-556382416.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171642-556392289.jpeg)

Second Clan:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171642-556411662.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171642-556402228.jpeg)

As can be seen, each Clan - names yet to be decided - is starting off with 6 minis, comprised as follows:

1 x sword and dirk
2 x sword and pistol
3 x sword and musket

I have to wait until Fathers Day for the latest release, which I suspect will offer up more characters for inclusion (I’d quite like a couple of archers and axe men).

In addition to the men, I have a couple of Highland Cattle and 8 Soay Sheep by Warbases…..

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171505-556362267.jpeg)

….. plus loot worthy of being stolen….

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171505-55637429.jpeg)

With regard to terrain, obvs I can use much if not all of that from the English project plus features like rocky outcrops. To kick off the Scottish terrain I’ll probably make a small farm like that in Rob Roy (the Liam Neeson movie), gradually adding to it with more cottages in the style of ‘black houses’ to accumulate a hamlet, etc (for which Elk101 and OSHIROmodelterrain have provided much useful advice).

The Rob Roy croft isn’t original, it being built in Scotland for the movie:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171504-556341214.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171504-55627583.jpeg)

Another consideration is Leanach Cottage at the Culloden Battlefield, though the ‘bump out’ was a later addition:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171504-55635393.jpeg)

I’m perhaps playing a bit loose with time and place as Rob Roy is set in 1713 with Leanach Cottage believed to date from the early 18thC, and both are set in the Highlands rather than the Lowlands. That said, I’ve yet to read anything that will make them out of place.

It could be a couple of weeks before these first 12 minis are painted, as I have some units of Wookies to finish first. When I do paint them I’m going for a mixture of plaid blankets, plus a mixture of bonnet colours (though some will be blue in case the whole lot find themselves becoming a unit for an ECW game).
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Blackwolf on June 07, 2022, 11:40:12 PM
 This is wonderful  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: carlos marighela on June 08, 2022, 07:30:19 AM
Fabulous project, will be watching this with interest.

May I suggest Clan Destine, Clan K and whatever the gaelic is for Cave Bear?  :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: levied troop on June 08, 2022, 07:38:19 AM
Excellent conversions, looking forward to following this project (as with all your projects) :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Friends of General Haig on June 08, 2022, 09:02:53 AM
Wonderful work with the green stuff, SI 👍.

Very much looking forward to seeing how your project develops.

If I might humbly suggest some reading then The Heather and the Gale by Ronald Williams gives a very atmospheric background to the Campbell / MacDonald background to Montrose’s campaign.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Captain Blood on June 08, 2022, 09:09:00 AM
Bold conversions Steve  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: abu iskander on June 08, 2022, 05:18:32 PM
These look brilliant. Can't wait to see what you do with them!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Elk101 on June 08, 2022, 10:04:08 PM
Cracking conversions!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: carlos marighela on June 08, 2022, 10:17:56 PM
If it’s the Lowlands, you might consider a small herd of these:

https://www.eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_131&products_id=13590


And for your clans.

https://www.eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_731&products_id=9949

https://www.eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_731&products_id=9948

https://www.eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_731&products_id=9948

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Blackwolf on June 09, 2022, 02:15:36 AM
Unfortunately those Eureka chaps are rather slight. Great range though,I did consider them for my own Montrose project, alas moved on to a mate.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Silent Invader on June 09, 2022, 07:57:25 AM
Many thanks for all the comments and the interest is always appreciated.  :)

Hopefully my painting will be worthy of the figures (there are a lot of folds in the plaid, which might be a challenge). 

@CM
Hmm I don’t think I’ll be going for Clan K! But I do really like the Eureka minis - a nice selection of clothing types and action poses - but as Guy observes I’m afraid they’ll be too small as Bloody Miniatures are on the larger side. Such a shame (and likely the same with the animals). Eureka are nicely sculpted minis so if it wasn’t for the size they’d be a perfect fit for the project.  :'(

@FOGH
The book recommendation is appreciated, thank you. I’ve added it to the list. 8)

@CB
Ha Richard, I did feel some trepidation in taking the scalpel to your lovingly created masterpieces but the possibilities for such distinctive Scots are too much to resist. 8)

More soon, including on rules.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Malamute on June 09, 2022, 08:26:29 AM
Superb conversions, very much looking forward to seeing the plaid >:D lol
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Bloggard on June 09, 2022, 11:06:26 AM
talented folk on this forum - brilliant work in all respects.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Silent Invader on June 09, 2022, 03:58:43 PM
Thanks very much chaps


very much looking forward to seeing the plaid >:D lol

Me too. It’s the painting before that I fear.  :o
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: rumacara on June 09, 2022, 08:34:25 PM
Now this is a project worth following. :-* :-*
As for all of yours... :D lol
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: brunei35 on June 10, 2022, 09:31:28 AM
Very impressive, look forward to seeing them painted as well as the archers/axemen you mention.

Cheers
Tony
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 11, 2022, 11:32:55 PM
Very impressive, look forward to seeing them painted as well as the archers/axemen you mention.

Cheers
Tony

+1to the above and also: Following with interest!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Silent Invader on June 12, 2022, 06:09:25 AM
Now this is a project worth following. :-* :-*
As for all of yours... :D lol

Thanks Rui - and you’re too kind!!

Very impressive, look forward to seeing them painted as well as the archers/axemen you mention.

+1to the above and also: Following with interest!

Thanks Tony and FF. I’ve now set aside another 12 of the figures for phase 2, which will include 2 x Bows and 2 x Lochaber Axes. Though as I flit between projects it could be a while before I convert them.



Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Atheling on June 12, 2022, 08:51:50 AM
Nice conversions and a great project. Scotland makes for a brilliant setting during the British Civil Wars  8)

Very much looking forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Silent Invader on June 20, 2022, 04:56:25 PM
Cheers Darrell. Painting has now started.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Atheling on June 20, 2022, 05:49:25 PM
Cheers Darrell. Painting has now started.

Excellent, I'm looking forward to seeing the results  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: DivisMal on June 20, 2022, 08:01:21 PM
I’m still not finished reading your other ECW project, but I’m really impressed and very eager to watch this one grow. :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2022, 07:40:07 AM
Thanks. :)

It’s kind of a dual-function project as I’ll be able to band all the Scot’s together for bigger ECW games. I’ve also identified quite a few more candidates from the Bloody Miniatures range.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: abu iskander on June 23, 2022, 01:27:02 AM
Great work with the grenstuff. I'm watching and learning on that as I'm pretty inexperienced with the stuff. Inspiring.

Look forward to seeing what you do with these with some paint.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Silent Invader on June 23, 2022, 04:48:08 AM
Great work with the grenstuff. I'm watching and learning on that as I'm pretty inexperienced with the stuff. Inspiring.

Look forward to seeing what you do with these with some paint.

The plaid scares me a tad - I’ve been studying your excellent paint jobs :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: rumacara on June 23, 2022, 11:06:04 AM
Quote
The plaid scares me a tad

You are not alone in that.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland: 1650 or thereabouts, conversions etc
Post by: Atheling on June 23, 2022, 11:59:34 AM
You are not alone in that.

Yep, plaid/tartan has always been very difficult to get right as I feel you have to almost be impressionistic with it.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Silent Invader on July 04, 2022, 03:51:15 PM
Bonnet colours: typically blue but I’ve also read of pale grey and seen images of rustic colours such as brown green.

As I’ll likely use for the ECW as well, and likely on either side, should I just stick with blue or mix in some greys as well.

Btw, the minis from both sides are dressed in similar rustic colours while their plaid blankets aren’t of a common pattern. Painted one side with blue bonnets and the other grey would differentiate them on the table but would that be too prescriptive?

Informed thoughts appreciated 8)

EDIT:

I’ve now started painting them and have gone for a mix within units of base colours:

Dark Prussian Blue
Flat Blue
Luftwaffe Uniform WW2

EDIT2:

All change! See later post ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Friends of General Haig on July 05, 2022, 09:05:40 AM
Hi SI,

On blue bonnets, I get the impression that ‘blue’ was pretty universal - it was the fashion for bonnets to be blue, irrespective of who you were fighting for.  Which blue is the million dollar question  :D !  Classic wargamer approach is to reach for the first blue you see on the paint rack and use Flat Blue, say.  IMHO I think this colour would be difficult to produce, especially for the rank and file. I like to go for more natural shades.  I suspect there was a variety of blues in reality as there would have been many, many producers, and each would have their own dye recipe.  My personal choice is typically something between Vallejo Field Blue and Vallejo Dark Pale Blue.  I think a RAF blue would also work.  I might go Flat Blue for an officer type.

Hope this helps 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: carlos marighela on July 05, 2022, 10:09:57 AM
Surely there has to be at least one in a red dominant tartan with a bright orange wig poking out beneath?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Silent Invader on July 05, 2022, 11:32:08 AM
On blue bonnets, I get the impression that ‘blue’ was pretty universal - it was the fashion for bonnets to be blue, irrespective of who you were fighting for.  Which blue is the million dollar question  :D !  Classic wargamer approach is to reach for the first blue you see on the paint rack and use Flat Blue, say.  IMHO I think this colour would be difficult to produce, especially for the rank and file. I like to go for more natural shades.  I suspect there was a variety of blues in reality as there would have been many, many producers, and each would have their own dye recipe.  My personal choice is typically something between Vallejo Field Blue and Vallejo Dark Pale Blue.  I think a RAF blue would also work.  I might go Flat Blue for an officer type.

This is extremely helpful, thank you very much. I’ve used the colours you’ve suggested as a guide, as within each unit I want a mix of three shades of bonnet.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-050722101908.jpeg)

And what they look like under the lamp:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-050722102541.jpeg)

These are the block colours so they will darken off with a wash then lighten with a couple of highlights.

Again, thank you :)

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Friends of General Haig on July 05, 2022, 10:08:47 PM
Hi SI

Glad the suggestion was useful. I love the colours you have used and that variety looks awesome. I think I will have to invest in some new blues  :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Blackwolf on July 05, 2022, 11:35:01 PM
Cracking information Friends of General Haig, and very interesting; my colour for bonnets is/was Luftwaffe uniform blue, because it has a faded grey tone, your colours seem to be pretty close to my minds eye :). Now I’ve derailed SI’s excellent thread …
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Silent Invader on July 06, 2022, 06:44:16 AM
Glad the suggestion was useful. I love the colours you have used and that variety looks awesome. I think I will have to invest in some new blues  :D

Thanks again FOGH! You really did help me out of a bind. The Flat Blue just didn’t look right with the softer tones I’m using for the rest of the clothing - quite garish in comparison - and your recommendation of Field Blue positioned me in a much better starting point on the Vallejo colour chart. :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Silent Invader on July 06, 2022, 06:51:48 AM
Cracking information Friends of General Haig, and very interesting; my colour for bonnets is/was Luftwaffe uniform blue, because it has a faded grey tone, your colours seem to be pretty close to my minds eye :). Now I’ve derailed SI’s excellent thread …


This is no derailment Guy! :D

If I had a fourth bonnet colour I’m sure it’d be Luftwaffe Uniform WWII. It’s the only one of my original three colours that I’d still use.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: levied troop on July 06, 2022, 07:09:24 AM
Very helpful. Those choices look right and my undercoated Scots just moved a step closer to the painting desk :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Silent Invader on July 06, 2022, 09:01:56 AM
Very helpful. Those choices look right and my undercoated Scots just moved a step closer to the painting desk :)

It’s always good to see more Scots 8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: dadlamassu on July 06, 2022, 10:11:24 AM
The "blue" of the Blue Bonnets was, from surviving examples and contemporary paintings and portraits quite varied.  Every shade and tint of blue, some more like grey, a few more earthy almost khaki.  The richer clansmen, officers and gentlemen (and probably cavalrymen who could afford their own horse) the darker the blue. 

So the rank and file would be every "blue" on your paint rack with, as already said, the greyish shades like RAF & Luftwaffe blues being most common with some more faded (to grey) and some darker.  Officers and the richer clansmen might be distinguished by darker shades to midnight blue for the upper class.

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 1650: Bonnet colours?
Post by: Silent Invader on July 06, 2022, 07:40:29 PM
Thanks D, that’s also very useful 8)



Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Silent Invader on August 13, 2022, 10:36:40 AM
It’s taken a while but I’ve finished the first 12 Scots. It was quite the learning experience, with me finally settling on the lighter shades for the bonnets (there are actually three shades, derivatives of each of Luftwaffe World War II, Field Blue and French Mirage Blue, though it transpires they all look quite similar in the photos).

The following photos are somewhat of a compromise as they were taken with my phone, albeit they have been adjusted for exposure and brightness.

The 12 figures are nominally in 2 units of 6, though apart from an under base marking there’s nothing to distinguish between the two ‘sides’.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822090425-561261094.jpeg)

The plaid was an interesting first time exercise; after various more complex approaches I decided to simplify the patterns and tone back brightness so as not to overwhelm the minis.

The Bloody Miniatures are a joy to paint, and while these are all conversions that is no slight on the original sculpts/casts, as it is much more fun to customise a quality mini than a poor one.

Some closeups:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822090425-56124521.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822093529.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822090424-561181777.jpeg)

And lastly my favourites:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822090425-56123758.jpeg)

I’ve also completed the markers for livestock and goods (all worth stealing). There are actually 4 bases of sheep but one was so out of focus that I edited it out of the image.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822090505-561282448.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-130822090504-561271479.jpeg)

I also have a couple of simple handcarts to finish, probably to be loaded with turnips.

The next probably 12 minis will likely include a couple of archers though I will hold off on pole weapons until the relevant accessories park is available from Bloody Miniatures.

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Malamute on August 13, 2022, 10:42:47 AM
Brilliant work. Each one being unique  :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: levied troop on August 13, 2022, 11:03:45 AM
Gorgeous work on those, very skilled conversions.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 13, 2022, 11:05:09 AM
Lovely  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Romark on August 13, 2022, 11:11:29 AM
Top job on those, lovely 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: rumacara on August 13, 2022, 11:19:05 AM
Lovely work. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Captain Blood on August 13, 2022, 11:19:33 AM
Nice conversions Steve, and well painted  :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Elk101 on August 13, 2022, 11:29:46 AM
Excellent stuff Steve.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on August 13, 2022, 01:21:53 PM
Lovely figures!

The cattle were bred by the victorians to bring the brown/ginger colour to prominence. The original colour was more commonly black - like Aberdeen Angus.

Bit nivver mind 'at....'at's some bonnie beasts yiv got air in a' lol
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Silent Invader on August 13, 2022, 03:26:11 PM
Thanks all  :D

The cattle were bred by the victorians to bring the brown/ginger colour to prominence. The original colour was more commonly black - like Aberdeen Angus.

Fascinating*: I had no idea. The thing is, my wife loves the ginger beasties so even if I had known, ginger is what they’d still be  ;D

*Bloody Victorians, interfering with Scottish history.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Blackwolf on August 13, 2022, 11:39:53 PM
Lovely work :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Friends of General Haig on August 14, 2022, 04:45:28 PM
Great looking Scots, SI 👍. I really like the colours you’ve used for the bonnets and the ‘hodden grey’.

Fascinating stuff about the Heilan Coos. :o  Will have to paint my next lot black!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: dadlamassu on August 14, 2022, 06:05:32 PM
Braw work! 
Certain feathers worn by clansmen have meaning and are not just for decoration.  These are the feathers of the golden eagle.  A clan chief displays 3, a chieftain 2 and an armigerous clansman 1 so denoting their rank.  The feathers are worn tucked and secured behind the clan or personal badge of the wearer.  However, some argue this is a later invented tradition.  Most clansmen might wear other feathers or field signs, possibly the most famous is the the White Cockade (rosette or knot of ribbon or cloth) of the Jacobites in the '45. Other signs used were "sprigs"  - bunches of particular flowers, leaves or twigs denoted friend from foe.  It is recorded that the dead at Culloden were identified by the sprigs.  Clans fought on both sides. 
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: brunei35 on August 14, 2022, 07:27:13 PM
Excellent conversions and painting.

Cheers
Tony
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: Silent Invader on August 15, 2022, 07:05:30 AM
Thanks folks. :D

@D
Interesting info about the feathers, which was all new to me, thank you (I’d added them as decoration as I doubt I’ll make a final decision on leaders until I’ve made many, many more).
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 13/8, 12 finished minis plus other bits
Post by: carlos marighela on August 15, 2022, 07:45:49 AM
Better a feather or two in yer cap than a bee in yer bonnet. Fabulous work and interesting stuff about the eagle feathers and rank.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 15, 2022, 08:01:16 PM
Many thanks!  :D
 
So I have figures, I have stuff to steal, now I just need somewhere to steal them from…..

I mentioned on page 1 that I planned a blackhouse and - based on the cottage in the Rob Roy movie but without chimney - I’ve started working up one with a turf roof and an attached fold.

Construction is from rough plaster blocks, into which I’ll etch and carve for more variation.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-150822184550-561482324.jpeg)

With man and beast for scale:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-150822184550-56149249.jpeg)

Also planned is a small ploughed field (rigg and furrow).

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on August 15, 2022, 09:48:47 PM
Posh!

Two rooms. People in one, beasts in the other. - the better to stay warm in winter (or in scotland summer too!)

If you google sheiling you'll get some good plans. And think of three or four of them strung out up a Glen and you're there. Glen Ey, near Inverey up the Dee from Braemar has a few and was the stomping ground of The Black Colonel, John Farquharson, a Jacobite, a cattle thief and a rogue every bit as interesting as Rob Roy. Worth a google !
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 15, 2022, 10:40:19 PM
Thanks for your interest in the project  :)

Yes indeed, in due course a few more buildings will be in order.

As it happens I’ve passed through Inverey quite a few times, including on foot in a blizzard as I retreated back to Braemar. I haven’t explored south of there though, as my various trips took me north via the Linn.

I haven’t been to Braemar Castle in a long, long time and Farquharson had completely slipped my mind, so the reminder is very much appreciated. 8)

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Furt on August 15, 2022, 11:20:17 PM
What a great project SI!  :-*

What rules will you use/concoct?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 15, 2022, 11:41:20 PM
That’s a very good question.  ;D

I’m in the throes of writing-up “Rampantly Small Skirmish”.

From the preamble;

Quote
These Rampantly Small Skirmish (RSS) rules are for RPG-lite wargames set around 1650; they are an adaptation of The Pikeman’s Lament (TPL) rules, which are from the Rampant stable of games by Daniel Mersey et al.

RSS is to be read in conjunction with the TPL rulebook, a copy of which will be required as its standard rules will apply unless varied herein or if common sense dictates otherwise. Page references are to the TPL rulebook.

The conceptual change is from a game of units to a game of single figures. In effect, each TPL unit is represented by one figure. Where TPL references “unit” for RSS this should generally be read and appropriately interpreted as “figure”.  Similarly, where TPL references “Officer” for RSS this should generally be read and appropriately interpreted as “Leader”, a title more appropriate to the type of scenario expected to be played.

I’ve desk-topped the various revisions and additions but I’ve yet to test them…. Hopefully soon.
 
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: mikedemana on August 16, 2022, 03:35:54 AM
Great new project! The tartans were not "uniform" in the sense they are thought of today as clan patterns. So, feel free to mix and match and experiment with colors that look good.

Mike Demana
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 16, 2022, 05:41:53 AM
The tartans were not "uniform" in the sense they are thought of today as clan patterns. So, feel free to mix and match and experiment with colors that look good.

Thanks.

As I mentioned earlier, the plaid was an interesting exercise. After experiments with brighter and more complex patterns I found that I prefer simpler patterns of duller colours. Also, although the 12 figures are in 2 units of 6, apart from an under base marking there’s nothing to distinguish between the two ‘sides’: in a couple of cases opposing minis have the same plaid, so there isn’t the uniformity associated with a clan tartan. Yes in a single unit there are a couple of plaids the same but I figure folks will have bought from the same weaver/trader but each unit of 6 actually has 4 different patterns/colours.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Furt on August 16, 2022, 08:24:40 AM
I’ve desk-topped the various revisions and additions but I’ve yet to test them…. Hopefully soon.

Sounds great. i knew you'd have something up your sleeve.  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 16, 2022, 08:49:48 AM
Sounds great. i knew you'd have something up your sleeve.  :)


:D

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Digits on August 16, 2022, 11:42:03 AM
Great project, love the minis!

I’m interested in how you get the rough stone blocks for your Croft….are they a simple casting or shop bought like that please?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 16, 2022, 12:13:18 PM
Thanks
 :)

I’m interested in how you get the rough stone blocks for your Croft….are they a simple casting or shop bought like that please?

They’re a DIY thing  ;)

I have a tub of pre-mixed repair plaster that is spread onto cling film laid over an old baking tray, indented with ‘snap’ lines, then sun-dried:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-160822110759-561571500.jpeg)

Once set, the slab is broken up into the smaller bricks/blocks:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-160822110759-561561367.jpeg)

As it’s plaster, once roughly glued (I use exterior grade PVA) into the desired shape it can be carved, etched, filled, etc.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Blackwolf on August 16, 2022, 12:22:28 PM
That is very clever SI !
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Digits on August 16, 2022, 12:32:25 PM
Fantastic idea and great results!   Thanks for that, must give it a try myself!

Very clever.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 15/8, Croft WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 16, 2022, 01:39:47 PM
Thanks chaps :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/8, Croft more WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 16, 2022, 10:10:35 PM
A bit more progress: stones tweaked, tops levelled, roof soleplate fitted, inside lined with PVA and kitchen paper:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-160822210353-56158632.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-160822210354-56159980.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-160822210354-561602259.jpeg)



Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/8, Croft more WIP
Post by: Furt on August 16, 2022, 10:18:36 PM
Looking great SI! That is going to be an awesome piece.

Interesting process to make those bricks. The indented "snap lines" are cut in after pouring or after it's cured?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/8, Croft more WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 16, 2022, 10:31:35 PM
It’s quite a rough firm plaster that is premixed. I just slap it onto the tray, indent the lines, then let it cure.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/8, Croft more WIP
Post by: carlos marighela on August 17, 2022, 01:19:40 AM
I’ll be nicking that idea!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 17, 2022, 08:31:26 PM
 Good to hear :D

The cottage build proceeds onwards and, quite literally, upwards.

After much thought, I decided - perhaps controversially - to add a chimney. Less controversially, I blocked in the side and rear windows, and added an extra window to the front.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-170822192044.jpeg)

Why the chimney? In due course I’d like a hamlet and every hamlet needs an elder, in this case the Tacksman who is landlord to the other residents. Obviously being a big man he needs a better house, so he gets a chimney. As the chimney is evidence of additional wealth, he’s worth robbing.

Also, I mentioned previously that I planned a house based on that in the Rob Roy movie and this is closer to that, albeit smaller. 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/55/2031-070622171504-556341214.jpeg)

Btw, the gable wall is presently oversized as it will be cut back to meet the roof line.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-170822193236.jpeg)


Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: NurgleHH on August 17, 2022, 08:40:57 PM
Wonderful, Steve. A lot of work and talent in it as always. Again an eye-candy. Hope to make some games on all these new (over three years) boards. Maybe you should do the BLAM alone in your local pub.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Elk101 on August 17, 2022, 09:32:31 PM
Good progress. I do like the way you explain the thought process, it's really interesting.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Malamute on August 18, 2022, 09:21:01 AM
Good progress. I do like the way you explain the thought process, it's really interesting.


I just look at the pictures  :D

Looking good Stevie ;D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 18, 2022, 02:51:58 PM
Wonderful, Steve. A lot of work and talent in it as always. Again an eye-candy. Hope to make some games on all these new (over three years) boards. Maybe you should do the BLAM alone in your local pub.


It’s a nice thought Dirk but my local doesn’t have a function room :D

The last 3 years have slipped by and I’ve been nowhere near as productive as I should have been. Though I think I am - finally - starting to focus on particular interests. Lol

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 18, 2022, 02:53:12 PM
Good progress. I do like the way you explain the thought process, it's really interesting.

Thanks Steve. As someone who I ask a lot of questions of, you know this well ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 17/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 18, 2022, 02:54:13 PM
I just look at the pictures  :D

Looking good Stevie ;D


Thanks Nick. Mostly I write the words for me. :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 18, 2022, 03:46:58 PM
The window and door holes have been backfilled for their fittings and the structure of the roof is on.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-180822144322.jpeg)

When the glue holding the sand has gone off, I’ll trim the roof structure then add a thin layer of filler for the substance of the turves.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 18, 2022, 06:31:31 PM
And I’m done for today….. I’ve got as far as laying the filler onto the roof as the basis for the turves.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-180822173057.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: levied troop on August 19, 2022, 07:09:13 AM
That’s looking excellent, the coo-beasties will feel right at home there  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Blackwolf on August 19, 2022, 07:54:55 AM
That is gorgeous Steve,just bloody wonderful   :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Furt on August 19, 2022, 08:08:14 AM
That's looking very cool. What a great cottage.  :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: **GS** on August 19, 2022, 09:36:29 AM
What a piece of art!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 19, 2022, 10:14:04 AM
Thanks all for the feedback  :D

It’s no coincidence that the last couple of days I’ve been DIYing and as the tub of plaster was out……  ;D

the coo-beasties will feel right at home there  :)

Well coo-beastie was a new one on me that I had to Google, which also turned up this phrase:

“Wee Hieland coo beastie”

Now that’s imaginative expression! 8) :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 18/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Romark on August 19, 2022, 11:00:04 AM
Lovely stuff  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 19, 2022, 11:59:35 AM
Thank you :D

At the mo it’s too hot for DIY but not too hot for hobby, so a little more progress…..this time from the back which I haven’t shown for a while:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-190822105410.jpeg)

All that’s left to be done:
1) More sand to base
2) Fit shutters, doors and gate
3) Add milliput lip to base
4) Paint
5) Foliage (including grass to roof)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Mindenbrush on August 19, 2022, 12:01:42 PM
Top class work rewards all that patience laying individual stones 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: rumacara on August 19, 2022, 12:29:06 PM
Looking great. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: carlos marighela on August 19, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Indeed, that’s a rather handsome dwelling.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on August 19, 2022, 06:18:43 PM
Thanks all.  :D

Last picture from me today*, showing the final layer of sand. Which is scattered onto dilute PVA then dabbed with dilute PVA to build up the undulations.

I’ve also started on a small veggie patch - I’m not completely sold on it so will see how it comes along. (I’ll be adding a milliput edge so the finished item will be a more organic shape)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-190822171119.jpeg)

*as I will likely make more of these for a hamlet, the photo references are very useful

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: carlos marighela on August 19, 2022, 10:08:11 PM
Do they grow vegetables in Scotland? Does anyone eat them?

Keen to see how the turf roof comes out.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 19/8, more Blackhouse WIP
Post by: mikedemana on August 20, 2022, 03:57:54 PM
Looks great! I like texturing with PVA and sand or even just fine flocking material. It adds a layer of "3D" to MDF buildings and makes scratch-built ones "pop," so to speak.

Mike Demana
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 21/8, Blackhouse & field now ready to paint
Post by: Silent Invader on August 21, 2022, 06:11:17 PM
Thanks chaps.  :)

I’m also intrigued how the turf roof will turn out as I’ve not made one before. If it looks fine I’ll probably make two bases each of two simpler houses (no chimneys!) to complete the hamlet.

On the meantime, here’s the house and field finished to pre-paint stage:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-210822170055-56199372.jpeg)

Some close ups of the house (I’ve already re-flocked and over-sprayed the tree):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-210822170055-562002251.jpeg)

And given that the fancy stone bridge that’s on my boards (it lifts off) won’t do for the poorer parts of Scotland, I’ve started on a tree-trunk option. The image shows the finished stone bridge and the WIP wooden alternative:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-210822170054-561981040.jpeg)

I’ve also found some larch and spruce trees, which can be based up to go alongside the oak, birch and rowan I already have.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 21/8, Blackhouse & field now ready to paint
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 21, 2022, 06:16:23 PM
Great progress :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 21/8, Blackhouse & field now ready to paint
Post by: Elk101 on August 21, 2022, 08:23:07 PM
That's looking really good.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 21/8, Blackhouse & field now ready to paint
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on August 21, 2022, 08:28:51 PM
A Tacksman's house rather than that of a really poor humblie perhaps?
He's not so well off that a turn of the laird's fortunes won't send him tumbling back to down the social ladder. But he's responsible for keeping an eye on the folk in the Glen on behalf o his lordship and so befits a slightly better hoose.

Perhaps he charges a penny for those using the bridge.

In the veggie patch - Neeps and tatties of course!

But in any case.....a lovely piece of wargames scenery
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 21/8, Blackhouse & field now ready to paint
Post by: Silent Invader on August 21, 2022, 09:11:41 PM
Thanks chaps - all very much appreciated
 :D

A Tacksman's house rather than that of a really poor humblie perhaps?
He's not so well off that a turn of the laird's fortunes won't send him tumbling back to down the social ladder. But he's responsible for keeping an eye on the folk in the Glen on behalf o his lordship and so befits a slightly better hoose.

Perhaps he charges a penny for those using the bridge.

That’s all very useable back story! 8)

Tbh before I started this small project I’d not heard of a Tacksman but it really is an interesting role including - from what I’ve read - the providing/leading of a contingent of fighting men.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, log bridge
Post by: Silent Invader on August 22, 2022, 04:52:33 PM
Log Bridge (which lifts out as an alternate to my stone version) is prepped for painting;

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-220822154832.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on October 06, 2022, 01:53:09 PM
On a bit of a terrain splurge at the mo, so have made some progress with the cottage (shieling).

All that remains to be done is the turfing to roof and ground.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-061022125127.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Friends of General Haig on October 06, 2022, 02:02:25 PM
I really like the stone work - I’m getting the impression of lichen and moss covered stone. 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Malamute on October 06, 2022, 05:27:43 PM
Looking excellent now :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 06, 2022, 06:22:12 PM
Looking grand!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: rumacara on October 06, 2022, 06:48:00 PM
Nice. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Dargonsploof on October 06, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
These look fantastic how did you paint the stone?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: carlos marighela on October 07, 2022, 04:26:45 AM
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I really like the stone work - I’m getting the impression of lichen and moss covered stone. 👍
[/quote]

All the better for attracting moss troopers albeit the Highlands are a bit off their beaten path.  :)

Nicely done.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: levied troop on October 07, 2022, 08:06:16 AM
That’s looking splendid, the hamlet should be very impressive :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Elk101 on October 07, 2022, 10:21:36 AM
That's fantastic work! It really looks the part.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on October 07, 2022, 10:57:57 AM
Thanks all. Comments very much appreciated. I’m not sure that I’ll get round to turfing it today as presently have the GS out, converting another 12 Scots. This latest group will include boys with slings, ladies with farm implements, men with axes, men with bows, plus a couple more muskets and pistols.

Regarding the painting of the cottage stone, it’s a simple approach. The following colours are all Vallejo though for the bulk of them I actually use matched pots from the local DIY shed.

Base coat - chocolate brown
Heavy dry brush - sky grey
Light dry brush - 75% off white 25% sky grey
Washes - various dilute greens from Yellow Green to darker ones such as Russian uniform WWII
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 6/10, cottage WIP
Post by: Blackwolf on October 08, 2022, 12:14:19 AM
Lovely  :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Silent Invader on October 10, 2022, 04:25:34 PM
Cheers Guy

Meanwhile, more minis have been converted.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-101022151833-56583501.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-101022151833-565841459.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-101022151833-565852129.jpeg)

The two slingers are from a Bicorne and a Renegade mini, both being examples that are significantly smaller and so work well as boys. I’m not sure that the Bicorne figure (formerly an artillery man with a bucket) was by Nick Collier but the other  (formerly a pike man at port) certainly was, as the NRC initials were etched into the base.

Btw, I absolutely love the size differences worked into the Bloody Miniatures range: tall ones, short ones, slim ones, stout ones, etc.







Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Elk101 on October 10, 2022, 04:40:23 PM
That's some very impressive conversion work there. You're going to have quite the collection by the end. Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Romark on October 10, 2022, 05:07:42 PM
Nice job on those 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Codsticker on October 10, 2022, 05:18:45 PM
I agree- really impressive.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Silent Invader on October 10, 2022, 09:37:22 PM
Thanks all.

Obvs it’s far easier to convert a great mini than it is to convert a mediocre one  :)

I hope to have them painted before the end of the month.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: rumacara on October 10, 2022, 10:32:13 PM
Lovely conversions. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Friends of General Haig on October 11, 2022, 09:18:11 AM
Fab conversions - I especially like the bowmen and slingers 👍.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Malamute on October 11, 2022, 09:45:47 AM
That's some very impressive conversion work there. You're going to have quite the collection by the end. Lovely stuff.

They are really, really impressive conversions. It's certainly going to be a spectacular collection! :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 13, 2022, 08:43:56 AM
Great continuation  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 10/10, more minis converted
Post by: Vagabond on October 13, 2022, 07:03:09 PM
It's a pleasure to find one of your threads and read through it from start to somewhere in the middle  :D, lovely stuff.  :o
Cheers
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Silent Invader on October 27, 2022, 09:24:33 AM
Apologies for missing these last couple of replies: my belated thanks for the comments.

In the meantime, I’ve finished the Croft (I think at this time more correctly called a Shieling) and and ‘run rig’ field of planting (legumes or some such).

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022082048-56706209.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022082048-567071547.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022082048-567051212.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022082047-567041384.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022082047-567032096.jpeg)

The next terrain item for this project will probably be a pair of smaller houses on a shared base, with the aim in due course of maybe a 5 house hamlet.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Dr DeAth on October 27, 2022, 09:39:31 AM
Excellent work there Steve. Reminds me of the crofts in the Rob Roy film. 
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Elk101 on October 27, 2022, 09:40:32 AM
That's absolutely lovely, what a fantastic piece of terrain.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Malamute on October 27, 2022, 09:58:20 AM
Top notch work Steve. I love the turf roof. :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Bloggard on October 27, 2022, 10:04:41 AM
wonderful modelling.

'run rig' - guess that's where the name of the Scottish band comes from.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Silent Invader on October 27, 2022, 10:48:54 AM
Thanks all. In the next few days I’ll hopefully set up a board with the entirety of Scottish terrain elements. At some point I do need to add some levels to the table - sections of foam angled for slopes, so the table can represent a steepish valley side. In my head I have some lovely imagery of coming through an elevated narrow mountain pass in the Five Sisters of Kintail and seeing a remote, lush and wide valley spread out before me.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: carlos marighela on October 27, 2022, 11:22:49 AM
Beautifully done, you crofty bugger.  :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Silent Invader on October 27, 2022, 11:32:56 AM
 :D

Here are the mountain pass and valley I was referencing:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022102628-5671064.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-271022102628-567112381.jpeg)

The photos were taken by me 30+ years ago and while I know we were staying in Morvich, I can’t quite pinpoint the actual glen that we walked to. The hike was 25/30 miles which for much of the time was on our lonesome (though in the valley a couple of Tornadoes did shriek over at extremely low level, somewhat disturbing the peace  lol).



Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Romark on October 27, 2022, 11:39:35 AM
Lovely scenery,both on the tabletop and in nature  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Black Burt on October 27, 2022, 12:42:57 PM
Just found this, brilliant work.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Dargonsploof on October 27, 2022, 04:47:08 PM
That house is fantastic.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: rumacara on October 27, 2022, 04:59:45 PM
Great job. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 27/10, finished Croft and field
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 27, 2022, 11:52:55 PM
Grand job there. Very nice.
Title: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Silent Invader on October 28, 2022, 09:56:07 AM
Thanks folks.

I’ve set the table up with the entirety (so far) of my Scottish terrain - in reality, most of it is generic pieces that suit a multitude of projects. This would have been for a game of “rustling, robbing and revenging” that I would have hosted today had the flu not intervened to wipe me out.  :'(

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-281022084345-56712102.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-281022084345-56714525.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-281022084345-567151776.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-281022084345-567161988.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-281022084346-56717307.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 28, 2022, 12:09:50 PM
That's a nice table too!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on October 28, 2022, 12:24:44 PM
Brilliant thread! Outstanding conversion work and that table is amazing!

It was interesting to learn about the significance of eagle feathers in denoting rank. 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Malamute on October 28, 2022, 01:11:58 PM
Looks great Steve. ;D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Silent Invader on October 28, 2022, 01:23:47 PM
Thanks all  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Dargonsploof on October 28, 2022, 04:38:07 PM
That's a beautiful table.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 28, 2022, 06:51:16 PM
Very nice  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: FramFramson on October 28, 2022, 07:15:58 PM
Absolutely bloody lovely.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Marine0846 on October 29, 2022, 02:50:00 AM
Really love your table.
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on October 29, 2022, 04:12:38 PM
Superb!   :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Captain Blood on October 29, 2022, 04:33:38 PM
Gorgeous  :-*

One day  lol
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Friends of General Haig on October 30, 2022, 07:30:49 AM
Fabulous looking terrain. 👍

Hope that you’re feeling better soon.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: WillPhillips on October 30, 2022, 12:13:37 PM
Fine looking table!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 28/10, Table layout
Post by: Silent Invader on October 31, 2022, 04:09:14 PM
Thanks all  :D

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Silent Invader on November 16, 2022, 11:49:28 AM
The 12 Scots (11 conversions) are now finished, 10 by Bloody and the 2 slinger boys I believe by Bicorne.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-161122113502-56908112.jpeg)

After seeing the first batch of 12 minis on the table top, I decided to repaint 1/2 of the bonnets in mid-blue, so that they are more readily distinguishable from their opponents in grey-blue. 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-161122113501-569071553.jpeg)

And group shots of both bands so far (24 in total):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/56/2031-161122113501-569061318.jpeg)

Very much looking forward to the release of the official Bloody Scots!

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 16, 2022, 11:53:50 AM
Splendid  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Dr DeAth on November 16, 2022, 01:07:54 PM
Very nice indeed
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Malamute on November 16, 2022, 02:08:38 PM
Outstanding :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: brunei35 on November 16, 2022, 03:04:20 PM
Look excellent, thanks for posting. The lady with the billhook is an impressive conversion to my eyes

Cheers
Tony
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Romark on November 16, 2022, 03:06:07 PM
They look grand 👍
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Elk101 on November 16, 2022, 03:26:31 PM
They look excellent, you should be very pleased with them.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Silent Invader on November 16, 2022, 04:11:28 PM
Thanks chaps - very much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Codsticker on November 16, 2022, 05:50:05 PM
Wonderful collection of Scottish rabble. :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: rumacara on November 16, 2022, 06:14:16 PM
Great conversions and painting. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Friends of General Haig on November 17, 2022, 08:57:20 AM
Fabulous work on thise, SI 👍.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Silent Invader on November 17, 2022, 03:42:32 PM
Thanks all - they’re very much a labour of love
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Captain Blood on November 18, 2022, 09:42:02 AM
Splendid Steve.

I’m aiming to get the ‘official’ Bloody Scots onto the webstore by the end of today, so you’ll be able to increase your clans still further  ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Silent Invader on November 18, 2022, 09:44:54 AM
I’m aiming to get the ‘official’ Bloody Scots onto the webstore by the end of today, so you’ll be able to increase your clans still further  ;)


I’m not sure what the Scottish equivalent is but…. Huzzah!!! :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: carlos marighela on November 18, 2022, 11:08:53 AM


I’m not sure what the Scottish equivalent is but…. Huzzah!!! :D

Mostly likely a call to procreation with a distinctly sectarian tone. ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Silent Invader on November 21, 2022, 02:38:29 PM
I’m aiming to get the ‘official’ Bloody Scots onto the webstore by the end of today, so you’ll be able to increase your clans still further  ;)

My order has now arrived and they are awesome.

FWIW I’ve worked out that from the entire Bloody range (ie, including these new arrivals) of 80 miniatures I can reasonably make a good 60 into Scots. Result. The 20 left will find their way into my English Army.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: Silent Invader on August 22, 2023, 06:55:43 PM
Not much progress for a while but I’m now putting together another 22 minis, which when painted will allow me to field two clans each comprising of:

2 leaders
6 melee troops with swords and pistols
6 shooters with muskets
6 pole weapons

I’d originally envisioned playing with a modified Pikemans Lament but I now think a suitably adapted NMBH would be even better, so am giving thought to that.

Here’s the basic assembly of the new Galbraith Axe minis - though a few need some GS…. The odd blanket, cap, sword belt, thumb, etc

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/2031-220823175037.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 16/11, 12 more minis finished
Post by: Malamute on August 23, 2023, 10:48:38 AM
Splendid, Looking forward to seeing them coloured in... :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: Silent Invader on August 25, 2023, 07:56:49 AM
Thanks - a few more to make before I reach the painting stage but a game with them gets ever closer  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: Captain Blood on August 25, 2023, 12:27:02 PM
That’s a nice sized skirmish force Steve.
I have 24 Bloody Scots of my own that can add to the numbers for a game, if desired.
I think PL might work better for such loose skirmish bands, whereas Billhooks leans towards more formed units, but very happy to try either.
:)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: peachey_c on August 25, 2023, 12:51:10 PM
Good job, I look forward to the rest.  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 25, 2023, 01:05:19 PM
Some is better than none  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: Silent Invader on August 25, 2023, 03:11:40 PM

Thanks all

I have 24 Bloody Scots of my own that can add to the numbers for a game, if desired.
I think PL might work better for such loose skirmish bands, whereas Billhooks leans towards more formed units, but very happy to try either.

That’ll be a lot of Bloody Miniatures Scots 8)

On reflection you are 100% right, PL would be much better for facings etc though I can’t deny I’d quite like to try some revisions, such as 1 dice per figure (rather than the 12 or 6 process), 1” unit separation rather than 3”, and the turn not ending on one unit’s activation failure.  lol
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: Elk101 on August 25, 2023, 04:35:52 PM
Nice to see this progressing.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/8, more WIP minis
Post by: Silent Invader on August 25, 2023, 07:49:30 PM
Thanks Steve

This latest batch has 22 minis in it, many of which will need some greenstuff. Btw, when I started this project I decided that I wanted all my Scots to be wearing shoes, not boots, thus a fair few have had their lower legs replaced with amputations donated by other Nick Collier ECW minis.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/59/2031-250823184341.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: Silent Invader on September 22, 2023, 01:29:31 PM
Well it’s taken me exactly a month to apply the greenstuff, but I’m finally there. To be fair to me, on the hobby front I’ve been distracted by lots more WOTR, finishing writing up The Clansmen Lament (which includes new unit types), and have even been dabbling in some Chinese martial artists.

My light and dark blue bonnets denote two different clans for small games, whereas all can be combined into one army for bigger affairs. By the by, no two minis in the project are the same, though I do match the weapon allocations between light blue and dark blue.

This batch comprises 22 minis, all bar one of which have been converted in some way. With the 24 already painted, these will give me 46, which will be enough for a game. That said, I already have another 38 casts that are allocated to units and so are ready to start, and in October the Bloody Cavalry will be released (and I plan to convert 12 of those) meaning that before the end of the year I’ll probably have 46 finished and 50 WIP.

Herewith the GSed minis, which is a useful reference for me to know what came from where……

And describing them per my The Clansmen Lament unit types, Fierce Men:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-220923121306-601111288.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-220923121305-601091287.jpeg)

Gunnes with a couple of elite Laird’s Finest (leaders):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-220923121306-601121180.jpeg)

More of the Laird’s Finest:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-220923121306-601131005.jpeg)

And here they are in amongst their respective clans, awaiting the paint brush:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-220923121643-601141028.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-220923121643-601141028.jpeg)

The old men, women and boys are the Clamjamfry, though I need to repaint the men for grey hair. I also need Bloody Miniatures to complete a few more releases before I can add units of Cuddie Riders and Braw Lads.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: Captain Blood on September 22, 2023, 01:54:05 PM
I’m going as fast as I can Steve  lol

Some nice conversions in there  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: Silent Invader on September 22, 2023, 02:36:48 PM
I’m going as fast as I can Steve  lol

Some nice conversions in there  :)

Lol

And thanks :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: peachey_c on September 22, 2023, 05:55:32 PM
Great job 8)

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: rumacara on September 23, 2023, 10:54:30 AM
Great conversions Steve. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: Bloggard on September 23, 2023, 12:50:57 PM
lovely skilled work on those conversions / green-stuff additions.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: Malamute on September 23, 2023, 03:42:07 PM
Amazing work.  ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 22/9 with 22 more conversions ready for painting
Post by: Silent Invader on September 25, 2023, 08:23:13 AM
Thanks all - comments much appreciated
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 25, 2023, 06:16:42 PM
I took advantage of the recent Fogou sale to buy 3 of his Rectangular Stone Blackhouse. These will accompany my own cottage and comprise secondary residences. They are excellent.

For variation, I’ll probably add a window to one, two windows to the second and perhaps add two windows and a chimney to the third. 

I also like the thatched effect and given I’m setting my game in the Tayside locality, I don’t think it’s out of place. I expect I’ll remove the turf from my house and similarly thatch it using milliput.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-250923161511-601271628.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-250923161511-601302097.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-250923161511-60131862.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-250923161512-601321477.jpeg)

And here’s the  village mocked up with a backdrop I’ve ordered. The photo was taken by me a couple of years ago and is from the ascent of Ben Lawers, just north of Loch Tay.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-250923161512-601331316.png)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: carlos marighela on September 25, 2023, 07:59:54 PM
You have been busy with those bothies! That's more cottaging than George Michael and Alan Jones put together!

Really nice builds, looking forward to seeing it all together.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 26, 2023, 10:22:20 AM
Thanks but I can’t claim  to have made the small cottages, they’re by Fogou 8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: rumacara on September 26, 2023, 11:44:15 AM
Quote
I expect I’ll remove the turf from my house and similarly thatch it using milliput.

Just an opinion but i dont think you should do it. It gives some variety to your vilage and it looks great. A previously built house wich didnt changed the roof.

And if you are still not happy with it you can send it to Portugal and do another...  ;) :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: carlos marighela on September 26, 2023, 01:10:25 PM
Agreed. Having a turfed example adds to the whole rather than detracts from it. The unifying factor is going to be the stonework anyway.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 26, 2023, 01:11:26 PM
All very good points, thank you both  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 26, 2023, 04:25:15 PM
A little update with basic work on the base:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-260923152304-60142634.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-260923152304-601431023.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on September 26, 2023, 04:39:11 PM
Nice work.....and you're not even done yet!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: carlos marighela on September 26, 2023, 08:59:39 PM
I am relieved to know I'm not the only one who buys MDF place mats by the score and then hacks them up as bases. At least I'm well beyond the stage where my wife asks 'what are those for?'
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 26, 2023, 09:12:51 PM
The three cottages have had their windows drilled out and the structure added for chimneys. I’ll probably GS the detail tomorrow.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-260923201143.jpeg)


Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on September 26, 2023, 11:57:08 PM
Lum's n windaes 'n a'?

Gye funcy!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 27, 2023, 11:25:49 AM
Lum's n windaes 'n a'?

Gye funcy!

I guess that translates as ‘they’re a bit posh’ ? :D

I know I’m undoubtedly over-doing it, but I can’t  help but be a little bit ‘movie set’  :o
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 27, 2023, 01:04:59 PM
Progress continues with the base having had a smoothing of plaster:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-270923120218-601492337.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-270923120217-601461508.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on September 27, 2023, 06:09:13 PM
Posh yes, remember to model a key box on the front door for the Air BnB crowd  lol lol

Lovely models ...I'm sure you'll do them proud. Look forward to seeing the results!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 27, 2023, 06:29:39 PM
I detest those key boxes - when a whole lane is fitted with them it’s a sad sight to behold.

Anyways….. after great advice not to thatch my own build, I stripped off the flock and started thatching it …..

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-270923172721.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 25/9 more cottages
Post by: Silent Invader on September 29, 2023, 10:14:16 AM
Buildings now kitted out and fitted to base.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923091108-60179490.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923091108-601801101.jpeg)

Next step will be to add more sand, more rocks, maybe a tree, and a ‘fringe’ of milliput to the base. The fringe will enable the two terrain bases to lock together.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: Silent Invader on September 29, 2023, 05:48:48 PM
Next stop the paint shop!

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923164439-601912199.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923164439-601902280.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923164439-601892449.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923164439-601882235.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-290923164438-601872126.jpeg)



Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: Malamute on September 29, 2023, 06:42:37 PM
They look terrific. ;D
Looking forward to seeing them coloured in :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: rumacara on September 30, 2023, 10:43:59 AM
Nice. :-* :-*
And you made me ordering some stuff from Fogou. :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: Silent Invader on September 30, 2023, 10:47:58 AM
Thanks guys

Nice. :-* :-*
And you made me ordering some stuff from Fogou. :D

I hope you didn’t miss their sale  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: Silent Invader on September 30, 2023, 11:35:53 AM
And sprayed Halfords Camo Brown to bring it all together.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-300923103404.jpeg)

Though I’ll need to add a fine dusting of sand to a few of the smoother areas of milliput.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: rumacara on September 30, 2023, 06:05:15 PM
Quote
I hope you didn’t miss their sale  :)

I did unfortunatelly. :(
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/9 cottages ready to paint
Post by: Captain Blood on October 01, 2023, 07:36:47 AM
Looking great already  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: Silent Invader on October 03, 2023, 09:31:45 PM
Sorry to hear that Rui and thanks Richard

Another part of the project completed - the backdrop (measuring 100 cm x 50 cm)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-031023203026-6021147.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 03, 2023, 11:22:41 PM
Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 04, 2023, 12:18:44 PM
All looks great Steve  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: Malamute on October 04, 2023, 08:15:58 PM
Marvellous  ;D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: carlos marighela on October 04, 2023, 09:26:39 PM
Indeed. Looking good. I am curious as to where a 100X50cm shortbread tin was obtained. :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: Silent Invader on October 05, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Thanks chaps  :D

I am curious as to where a 100X50cm shortbread tin was obtained. :)

 lol

It’s one of my photos I had printed as a poster, then glued and trimmed to a stretched canvas.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-051023084520-602122017.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-051023084520-602141869.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: modelwarrior on October 05, 2023, 10:07:49 AM
Always best to use your own photographs,looks excellent.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 3/10 backdrop
Post by: carlos marighela on October 05, 2023, 10:48:58 AM
Gorgeous photo!  You sir are a polymath!

Should have known. Shortbread or toffee would always have a stag, a piper or an enormous fucking thistle in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: Silent Invader on October 08, 2023, 06:12:08 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

And I’ve now finished the addition to the village.

The two tiles, combined:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023164855-602321709.jpeg)

The re-roofed Big House:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023164856-602372077.jpeg)

And atmospheric shots:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023164856-6023898.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023164856-602391007.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023164856-60240268.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023164925-602421523.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-081023165241.jpeg)

In due course I might add a third tile of cottages but for now I need to get back on with the 22 minis that are half finished. Though in other exciting news (to me, anyway  ;)), I’ve worked out how to turn two of the Bloody Miniatures into bagpipers, but more on that another time.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: Malamute on October 08, 2023, 06:18:38 PM
They look terrific. :-*

 But where’s the backdrop? :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: Silent Invader on October 08, 2023, 06:29:28 PM
Ah the backdrop. Good question. As these are just progress shots I left it out so as not to distract. Clearly a mistake.  :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 08, 2023, 07:49:34 PM
Brilliant...

....but we want the backdrop too! :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: rumacara on October 08, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
The village looks great. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: oldskoolrebel on October 08, 2023, 09:10:54 PM
Lovely work! I've been enjoying perusing the posts and seeing the progress! Can't wait to see games getting played on it.

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: carlos marighela on October 08, 2023, 09:13:02 PM
Lovely! :-* :-*

There's only one road though. Shouldn't there be a high road and a low road?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: marianas_gamer on October 08, 2023, 11:29:37 PM
Most excellent!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: Lost Egg on October 09, 2023, 07:27:32 AM
I'm sure I've visited that village...cracking work.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 09, 2023, 07:31:12 AM
Splendid  ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 8/10 finished village
Post by: Silent Invader on October 09, 2023, 08:57:20 AM
Thanks all - your comments are appreciated
 :D


....but we want the backdrop too! :D

I’ll see what I can do  ;)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Silent Invader on October 09, 2023, 12:51:25 PM
So, a quick tableau…..

The first 5 images are unedited, though some have been cropped to size

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-091023114208-602511761.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-091023114207-60243169.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-091023114207-60250597.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-091023114208-60252876.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-091023114208-602531676.jpeg)

This final picture, taken adjacent to the backdrop to show the general layout, has been edited to remove a radiator against one wall

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-091023114438.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Malamute on October 09, 2023, 01:00:32 PM
They look terrific.  :-*

What makes them really work is some of the grass colours in the backdrop match the colour of your flock, making it look very real. ;D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Bloggard on October 09, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
bloomin' heck, fantastic.  :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Silent Invader on October 10, 2023, 08:54:45 AM
Thanks chaps. I’m very pleased with the result.

What makes them really work is some of the grass colours in the backdrop match the colour of your flock, making it look very real. ;D

Am also very pleased with the suitability of the picture for the backdrop. Obvs I didn’t take the photo with this use in mind so I was very fortunate to have it.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: carlos marighela on October 10, 2023, 10:45:30 AM
But you aren't ruling out the possibility that you re-turfed a large-ish section of some Scottish glen with a view to matching your flock?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Silent Invader on October 10, 2023, 10:49:57 AM
But you aren't ruling out the possibility that you re-turfed a large-ish section of some Scottish glen with a view to matching your flock?

 :D

No comment!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 11, 2023, 09:15:09 PM
A fine piece of real estate indeed.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Silent Invader on October 13, 2023, 05:18:54 PM
 Thank you :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 9/10 village with backdrop
Post by: Constable Bertrand on October 13, 2023, 08:49:46 PM
Blooming heck Steve that looks perfect. Hard to tell it's not a real shot.

I really like seeing your foam and hill shaping, you do such a great job on the underlying forms to make them roll like real ground. I liked your bore board too.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Silent Invader on October 14, 2023, 12:24:02 PM
Thanks Matt, appreciated.  :)

In the meantime, I’ve converted a couple more Bloody Miniatures into bagpipers.

The piper arms are from Anvil Industry. The legs below the knee are from the Bicorne and Renegade ranges, as I wanted shoes and the original minis were in boots.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-141023111812.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Paul Richardson on October 14, 2023, 12:54:19 PM
Great work.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Capt Troy Tempest on October 14, 2023, 05:55:29 PM
Really like what you’ve done with buildings, they could be used from Bannockburn, upto and beyond Culloden.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Malamute on October 15, 2023, 03:54:05 PM
Love the pipers. :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on October 15, 2023, 04:18:22 PM
Grand job on the piper. Nice!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: **GS** on October 15, 2023, 04:24:08 PM
Wow, really convincing sculpts! Well done!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Silent Invader on October 16, 2023, 09:45:27 AM
Thanks all.  :)

The pipers are now in the painting queue

Really like what you’ve done with buildings, they could be used from Bannockburn, upto and beyond Culloden.

Yes the Fogou buildings are a great resource. I am very pleased with them.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Elk101 on October 23, 2023, 10:19:14 AM
Absolutely stunning work
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 14/10 Bagpiper Conversions
Post by: Silent Invader on October 26, 2023, 07:42:01 AM
 Thank you Steve :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Silent Invader on October 29, 2023, 03:55:11 PM
Well is taken almost exactly a year but I’ve now finished 24 more of the Scots, giving me 48 in total (though 6 of these are villagers).

These latest 24 are added to 18 of the previously painted minis, to make complete units (of 6 or 12 depending which rules and how deployed).

As before, there’s an even mix of grey-blue bonnets and mid-blue bonnets, enabling me to play them as two warring clans, or I can just mix them all up for bigger units for the ECW or as TYW mercenaries.

From left to right, each comprises three more close combat troops, a bagpiper for the command unit, and two more gunners:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151338-604831758.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151339-60484729.jpeg)

Also finished are five more each with axe and additional commander with feather(s) in bonnet:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151339-604852138.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151339-604861490.jpeg)

Here’s the lot together, including the 24 previously painted, as one combined force (not my favourite photo as there’s still a bit of shine as given the weather the varnish has yet to fully go off):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151339-604872111.jpeg)

TBH I’ve lost track of how many are conversions and to what extent, but in case there’s interest I’ve picked out the following to show the start and end of a few of the figures:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151408-6049231.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151408-60491914.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151408-604901411.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151408-604891229.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-291023151407-604881592.jpeg)

In terms of what comes next:


Thanks for looking

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Codsticker on October 29, 2023, 04:07:48 PM
Those are remarkable transformations. I think I will have to get some of those spare heads...
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Romark on October 29, 2023, 04:24:02 PM
Great conversion on those minis 😎
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Malamute on October 29, 2023, 04:53:34 PM
Truly spectacular  ;D :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 29, 2023, 04:53:52 PM
Cracking stuff  8)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Captain Blood on October 29, 2023, 05:11:51 PM
It’s quite a project Steve. They’ve turned out well  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: marianas_gamer on October 29, 2023, 07:45:53 PM
Excellent in all ways!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Elk101 on October 29, 2023, 09:06:10 PM
What a great project. As one of them, I heartily approve.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: rumacara on October 29, 2023, 10:10:08 PM
Wow!! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: carlos marighela on October 30, 2023, 03:55:03 AM
Fabulous work!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Silent Invader on October 30, 2023, 10:25:48 AM
Thanks all for your comments. All greatly appreciated.  :)

As one of them, I heartily approve.

This pleases me very much  :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on October 30, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
Those really are jolly spiffing!  Can I ask what colour(s) you used for the grey-blue bonnets as I rather suspect that is probably a lot closer to the actual thing than any of the "brighter" blues I've seen fellow gamers use over the years?  (Apologies if the recipe is hidden somewhere in the thread - I can go and hunt for it, if necessary!)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 29/10 more finished minis x24
Post by: Silent Invader on October 30, 2023, 03:25:39 PM
Hi and thanks  :D

Bonnet colours have been discussed but in a number of places and in a number of ways so it’s a good idea to crystallise the colours once and for all!

The process I use is to paint the bonnet in the base colour, cover with a dark brown wash, then repaint in the base colour but leaving shadows, before highlighting by mixing increasing amounts of Vallejo Game Colour Off White with the base colour. With this process in mind, the two Vallejo Model Colours I use for the base colour are:

Field Blue or Flat Blue 

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on October 31, 2023, 10:36:04 PM
The latest aquisition for the project, the three pieces by Hudson & Allen (from Vatican Enterprises) that comprise their Scottish Village:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-311023223101-605262002.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-311023223102-605302012.jpeg)

These will be based up like the other pieces, and I shall probably rework the roofs with milliput so that all of the buildings match.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Charlie_ on October 31, 2023, 10:59:46 PM
Awesome! Can I ask, did you get them direct from Vatican Enterprises recently?
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on November 01, 2023, 05:13:41 AM
Awesome! Can I ask, did you get them direct from Vatican Enterprises recently?


I did :)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Charlie_ on November 01, 2023, 05:24:06 PM
Awesome, good to know he is still in business and they are still available - his website doesn't inspire confidence!
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Malamute on November 01, 2023, 05:42:55 PM
Quite the settlement you’re building. ;D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on November 01, 2023, 06:16:29 PM
Awesome, good to know he is still in business and they are still available - his website doesn't inspire confidence!

Drop him an email and if he has what you want it might work out. I found him very reasonable and reliable to deal with. My package was sent via the postal system, being delivered here by Royal Mail. Postage cost was about 30% of the order but I very much wanted the buildings. I also expected to incur import charges on delivery but it didn’t happen.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on November 01, 2023, 06:17:04 PM
Quite the settlement you’re building. ;D


It’s an estate agents dream :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: rumacara on November 01, 2023, 07:14:22 PM
Soon it will be a town... ;) :D
Its looking great.
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on November 02, 2023, 09:08:09 AM
 lol and thank you Rui

I’ve now seen the Any Scale version. It’s not as finessed but with a modified roof and perhaps accompanied on a tile by another of the Fogou models, they’d add an interesting 8th and 9th houses to the village  :D

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-021123090444.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Malamute on November 02, 2023, 09:15:29 AM


It’s an estate agents dream :D

Most definitely, it looks like a sought after location with delightful rural views. ;) :D
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: carlos marighela on November 02, 2023, 09:31:38 AM
It's certainly a step up from Clune Park or Easterhouse. lol
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Vagabond on November 12, 2023, 08:41:53 AM
Just caught up on your progress so far and thoroughly enjoyed the discussion and thought process.
Bonnets appear to be wool, dyed originally with woad and laterly indigo. This gives some lovely shade variations on a central colour although I couldn't see any significant colour difference between the 2 dyes. Presumably Indigo is either cheaper and easier to obtain and work or it's more colourfast.
Your black houses look superb, the painted purchased ones match your original build closely although I  think I prefer your thatch detail better. I liked the original turf roof as well but can see why you'd want them all to be a similar style.
Back drop is brilliant, makes a huge difference to the overall pictures of the table, full marks for that, I  use wings or side pieces as well as a back piece which is useful for ingame pictures but won't suit a multiplayer game because it's more fiddly to play with.
As Lon said, excellent in all sorts of ways.
Cheers
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Constable Bertrand on November 28, 2023, 10:50:48 AM
OOh those Vatican pieces with built in terrain basses are going to look amazing once you've gone over them Steve!  8)

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Bonnie Scotland, 17thC: UD 31/10 Hudson & Allen Scottish village
Post by: Silent Invader on November 28, 2023, 11:40:31 AM
Thanks chaps for your comments (and with apologies to Carlos and Vagabond, for my tardiness: I’m sorry that I missed your replies).

I also prefer my thatch Vagabond, simply because the other 3 being conversions of the same model are so ‘samey’. I’ll also be thatching the Vatican buildings to bring them together. I agree that backdrops aren’t at all practical for gaming, though without it there’s a glazed door behind, the presence of which tends to sully images. It’s also a nice picture to have on the gamesroom wall and I’m sure I’ll make a similar lowland English scene at some point.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/2031-281123113656.jpeg)

And yes Matt, I’m very excited to have got hold of the Vatican pieces.  :D  Have had my eye on them for years.