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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: KGatch113 on June 21, 2022, 01:26:15 AM
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Besides Death Fields figures from Wargames Atlantic, what manufacturers make miniatures that scale well with GW normies ( Cadians, Eldar Guardians etc) of the current 28-32mm scale. HOw do Maelstrom's Edge and Stargrave figures match up?
Thanks!
Keith
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What era of GW are you looking to match? The new Eldar, for example, are quite a bit larger than previous ones, etc.
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Holy cow, just found a couple pics...they really did resize the Eldar!
Do you know how much bigger the new Guardians are compared to Dire Avengers, since that kit was not redone?
I would say the old line.
Now I am worried about the new Guard models...the plastic Kasrkin are probably going to be larger than the old. Ugh.
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Anvil industries, puppets of war, Victoria lamb miniatures. Off the top of my head, those work pretty well with the older or late 90s early 2000s stuff.
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Ramshackle games does a great range of resin and metal figures:
https://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/24-military (https://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/24-military)
And we offer a range of metal figures, most of which fit with the Guard aesthetic:
https://halcyonminiatures.com/ (https://halcyonminiatures.com/)
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If you can track it down (possibly Prince August still sells them; they would until stock runs out), the Warzone starter box with 80 miniatures that are perfectly compatible with 2nd ed 40K miniatures. And they used to be cheap as chips too (possibly even cheaper).
Those were also sold in a bundle without the rest of the game; just a plastic bag containing the 80 miniatures... They're getting rarer, but unless you're going for a full horde conscript army, one of those sets would get you a long way assembling an entire IG army...
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With regards to Cadians, I haven't found the Stargrave / Northstar offerings to be drastically out of sync. Height-wise Cadians are a bit taller, but bulk-wise they are plausibly of the same species:
(https://therecouldhavebeensnakes.files.wordpress.com/2022/05/vlcsnap-2022-05-28-21h56m44s312.png) (https://therecouldhavebeensnakes.files.wordpress.com/2022/05/vlcsnap-2022-05-28-21h56m44s312.png)
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how about the alternative armies ion age 28mm scale figures. the original one were done by ex-gw designers.
https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/28mm-ion-age-miniature-range
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Anvil industries, puppets of war, Victoria lamb miniatures. Off the top of my head, those work pretty well with the older or late 90s early 2000s stuff.
Sadly, Victoria Lamb's stuff, as gorgeous as it is, is a lot smaller than GW/Stargrave etc. I have a TON of guys and girls for the Arcadian army that I will never use. I need to ebay them I guess.
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If you can track it down (possibly Prince August still sells them; they would until stock runs out), the Warzone starter box with 80 miniatures that are perfectly compatible with 2nd ed 40K miniatures. And they used to be cheap as chips too (possibly even cheaper).
Those were also sold in a bundle without the rest of the game; just a plastic bag containing the 80 miniatures... They're getting rarer, but unless you're going for a full horde conscript army, one of those sets would get you a long way assembling an entire IG army...
Sadly, the starter box is gone.
A couple of years ago when they still had the big bags of plastics, I literally logged on, saw they were available, waited a week for payday, and they were gone. I actually had the money, I just wanted to keep some in my spending account just in case something happened....
Thanks for the idea though.
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Ramshackle games does a great range of resin and metal figures:
https://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/24-military (https://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/24-military)
And we offer a range of metal figures, most of which fit with the Guard aesthetic:
https://halcyonminiatures.com/ (https://halcyonminiatures.com/)
Your stormtrooper squad is fantastic. I am putting them down on the to get list.
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Heresy Miniatures have some troopers that are a great fit: link (https://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_61)
It's worth looking though his website (and his current Kickstarter), as Andy's recently acquired some of the old Atenociti's Workshop model range, which will bring even more suitably-sized models to his range.
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Heresy Miniatures have some troopers that are a great fit: link (https://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_61)
It's worth looking though his website (and his current Kickstarter), as Andy's recently acquired some of the old Atenociti's Workshop model range, which will bring even more suitably-sized models to his range.
The Fate Amenable To Change (FATC) range are very slim and realistic especially in comparison to GW Cadians etc, order a couple and see whether they work for you? Very, very nice minis though, I have some, and plan on getting some Komodo PA suits.
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Well, the FATC minis are a bit of a mix... The military robots are a bit slimmer than humans, but the guns are on the larger/chunkier side, and so they scale/fit fairly well. Of course, I don't know if they would be of specific interest for anything in particular, but they make for great additions to warbands/Kill teams where figures do diverge a bit more from regular 40k.
The civilians are an okay fit too, although I prefer the unarmed ones. They are generically sci-fi without being too connected to any one background universe.
For the Operatives, and some of the earlier ranges of enclosed-armour troopers, I do agree they are quite fine - more akin to first generation and early second generation Infinity sculpts.
Anyway, I thought them worth a mention, as Heresy's Troopers definitely fit well, and he now sells the FATC minis too. :)
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I like their stuff but it looks slim. I did not see robots though....
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If scaling with Cadians, it's the proportions and bulk rather than the height that I think is the big factor.
To that end, the Stargrave plastics are one of the best options. They are a mm or two shorter to the eyeline, but the proportions are dead-on for GW-chunk.
In fact, alot of the figures sculpted by Mark Copplestone (who also did much of the Stargrave metals I think...) will have similar heft. Copplestone castings and EM4 (formerly Grenadier) Future warriors figures will look pretty good with them.
I'll think on what else I've got and what else might be compatible...
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Thanks for the tip about Copplestone!
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I backed this guy's recent kickstarter: https://www.starschlock.com/
And was really happy with what I got. They scale nicely with the GW 40K humanoid figures of the 90s / 00s, and would add some nice flavor to any sci fi offering. Plus: undead astronauts! https://www.starschlock.com/product/necronauts-a
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They look nice.
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Scale shot of a Maelstrom's Edge Epirian Master Bot Handler (a very "Saving Private GroundHog" exo-suit, but at least the soldier is wearing trousers).
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mm_2LMJLOvs/WuoES6C_qyI/AAAAAAAADtI/q4w9gl9ZZegGo0TyuLcISaF45oo3SIQwwCLcBGAs/s1600/masterhandler10.png)
Cannon Fodder and Stargrave
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg1cHvkFdXmQ7iGWV7dx55Tc5L3eGMdzAGWf2nFLupwT2HuijnNan1at2tud-TFrrQ5hK1-q8jf9ZYJkDW_9t5ywOoq4N8UFSZQtOoe5psV9vJ1sOvr-T1xoxlWA1j-_O21Nh2aZQ3qAL190KjwHFGWttjYLKELK37HK_gbrMsalB-m8hA9Fn50NlAlUA=s500)
Crooked Dice's William Killian and Cannon Fodder
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi7VrFSBE3bukthYRByconTOnmmpGmQn08AmnSsxsOKgA8gtJTPGNDxSVUfXH-uxe0XPo_1ORo-KeeEMb_j35Jv8HIthEDWJyYgyipoMNnvb4Xco30QR-2R16MoK4dckJAMPXb8pHRSrM6RQ4ZjIRJTtGuYQlT9xZtdzFJp8APQ1Qmqg0yKchsXlVW0xw=s500)
Anvil Industries Martian Fusileer with William Killian.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_soibXXwcks/WRYpkiHNddI/AAAAAAAACMY/-KdKwpeoKQ0pmmUKb3EdRdj-ZxtEHFiKgCLcB/s1600/orbitalfusileer1-5.png)
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Scale shot of a Maelstrom's Edge Epirian Master Bot Handler (a very "Saving Private GroundHog" exo-suit, but at least the soldier is wearing trousers).
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mm_2LMJLOvs/WuoES6C_qyI/AAAAAAAADtI/q4w9gl9ZZegGo0TyuLcISaF45oo3SIQwwCLcBGAs/s1600/masterhandler10.png)
Cannon Fodder and Stargrave
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg1cHvkFdXmQ7iGWV7dx55Tc5L3eGMdzAGWf2nFLupwT2HuijnNan1at2tud-TFrrQ5hK1-q8jf9ZYJkDW_9t5ywOoq4N8UFSZQtOoe5psV9vJ1sOvr-T1xoxlWA1j-_O21Nh2aZQ3qAL190KjwHFGWttjYLKELK37HK_gbrMsalB-m8hA9Fn50NlAlUA=s500)
Thank you for those comparison shots!
I reallllly wanted to use the Unity Council stuff for this game...wish they would retool it. I'm probably going to get a ton of Anvils guns because they look so generic.
Crooked Dice's William Killian and Cannon Fodder
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi7VrFSBE3bukthYRByconTOnmmpGmQn08AmnSsxsOKgA8gtJTPGNDxSVUfXH-uxe0XPo_1ORo-KeeEMb_j35Jv8HIthEDWJyYgyipoMNnvb4Xco30QR-2R16MoK4dckJAMPXb8pHRSrM6RQ4ZjIRJTtGuYQlT9xZtdzFJp8APQ1Qmqg0yKchsXlVW0xw=s500)
Anvil Industries Martian Fusileer with William Killian.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_soibXXwcks/WRYpkiHNddI/AAAAAAAACMY/-KdKwpeoKQ0pmmUKb3EdRdj-ZxtEHFiKgCLcB/s1600/orbitalfusileer1-5.png)
Thanks for the comparison shots. So the Cadian is a squatter and thicker than the Maelstroms Edge....and the Stargrave guy is the same next to the Cannon Fodder, while the CD figure is skinny....good to know!
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Another figure line that might (or might not) be a smidge shorter, but has the same chunky proportions is Pig Iron Productions, especially the Kolony line. There's Militia, Rebels and Ferals and there's a pretty neat interchangeable head system.
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Testing
(https://dragonsanddungeonsrpg.blogspot.com/2022/07/blog-post.html)
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As well as the North Star Stargrave line have you considered some of their Frostgrave stuff? The Cultists and Soldiers sprues would be the obvious choices for bodies and some heads but I imagine the two Wizard packs might be useful as well.
The Perry plastic Afghans are WAY bigger than their other plastics - I compared them with some Perry metal figures from the Crusades range and they were a head taller, they are also taller than the Empress metal Afghans - but they might be useful for for Grimdark Desert units with some new weapons.
Finally, Wargames Atlantic have some useful stuff in their sci-fi range and for civilians have you looked at the Warlord Games 2000AD figures? - I've no idea about sizing but some of them look like they'd fit into a homebrew setting.
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(https://i.imgur.com/cbp2B5Is.jpg)
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Another figure line that might (or might not) be a smidge shorter, but has the same chunky proportions is Pig Iron Productions, especially the Kolony line. There's Militia, Rebels and Ferals and there's a pretty neat interchangeable head system.
I'd second Pig Iron. I run them as Veteran Guard at Kill Team events. They fit in well and always get interest - I have valhallans for proper GW funded events in GW premises where GW must be on the table :) I converted a load with GW weapons, arms and stuff.
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I'd second Pig Iron. I run them as Veteran Guard at Kill Team events. They fit in well and always get interest - I have valhallans for proper GW funded events in GW premises where GW must be on the table :) I converted a load with GW weapons, arms and stuff.
Those look great! I did not know Pig Iron did greatcoats!
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Those look awesome - I love Pig Iron stuff as a sci fi choice for my models.
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I forgot about the Great Escape Games Gunfighters (with added Stargrave).
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wlOtRfrKbQ8/YQ-te-N8-iI/AAAAAAAAIIk/LC90R9psEd0DGFI5N4l0IrGuRV7nTk7NwCLcBGAsYHQ/s500/cowboygrave-2.png)
GW Cadian lasgun or Wargames Atlantic cannon Fodder arms would work just as well.
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That’s a pretty cool kitbash- has a bit of a Matrix, or cyberpunk feel.
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If you can wait till September the newly announced collaboration between Wargames Atlantic and Reptilian Overlords looks promising. First set are basically Catachans
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I’m sure any resemblance to Catachans is entirely coincidental. They do look like they would make reasonable proxies, if you used your imagination, though. ;)
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If you can wait till September the newly announced collaboration between Wargames Atlantic and Reptilian Overlords looks promising. First set are basically Catachans
The bare arms kill me on those. I'd need to find sleeved arms. I think Mad Robot has some that might work.
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Void have some jungly types in their viridian range, some of syntha might be useful too. I reckon they would fit scale wise