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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Maniac on July 11, 2022, 01:19:24 AM

Title: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Maniac on July 11, 2022, 01:19:24 AM
My kids didn't seem too interested in getting Fistful of Mecha going again, always something else more interesting, so I setup for FFoL - M&M in the Trojan War.  I've been working on various forces involved for quite a while, and decided to run a raid prior to the 9th year.  Odysseus and the Ithacans have raided a small town to capture some of the local hoi-polloi for ransom.  They are interrupted mid search of the villa when a Trojan scouting party lead by Deiphobus stumbles upon them.

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To start, the Ithacans had three men in the villa and two on the bridge, while the Trojans came in on one of the two roads the Ithacans could use to escape.  They had to search the villa rooms (regular task) to find the noble and his daughter.  The river could be forded, but required a regular task roll on entry and during movement.  Failing the task roll would see the user go down and require a task roll to get back up.

Odysseus got things going by finding the daughter on the opening move, but it would take another heavy round of searching to find the noble.  Still, they found the hostages and proceeded to exit while the Trojan's were still sneaking through the village.

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Deiphobus was a bit brash, and made a move towards the bridge and the plucky archer took a shot, but only scored a shock.  The rest of the Trojans snuck along behind the buildings of the village and the village well.

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Deiphobus thought better of things, and moved into hiding with a javelin in support.  Meanwhile the lone Ithacan spearman on the bridge moved up to buy time for the rest of the war party to move across the river.

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Helenus decided to avenge his brother and charged the archer, but being a healer and follower of Apollo, he proved ineffective at combat (my son rolled a 1 I rolled a 9, and then rolled a 9 to put him out of action).  Definitely not the expected course of action to be sure, a named character falling to a pleb.

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The Trojans rallied, and a spearman ran in to defend his fallen comrade, spearing the Ithacan archer through the heart (me 3, son 10, then 10 on the wound).  Determined to fight to the death, the Ithacans slipped by rather than challenge him.  Meanwhile, at the cross roads, an inconclusive series of clashes leaves the Ithacan front runner and a Trojan Spearman each with a shock, staring at each other as sweat rolled off the brow.

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Eventually, the Ithacans killed the Trojan blocker, and escaped down the road.  Odysseus did take a wound from the Trojan javelin thrower as he beat a retreat, but was able to shepherd his prizes back to a waiting ship.  3 of the Trojans were down vs only one Ithacan resulting in a stunning victory for the Achaean forces.  It bodes poorly for Troy's loose coalition of supporters.

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Rather humorously, one of the Ithacans failed to cross the stream all game long.  Slipping on the stones, he'd get up and go right back down again on the following card.

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Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Maniac on July 11, 2022, 01:47:04 AM
Ithacan forces, all Redoubt save the archer who is Newline:

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The Trojans, who consist of all Old Glory save Helenus who is Redoubt (the Deiphobus is a converted old Glory figure, with repositioned head and legs).

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I've said it elsewhere, but the Old Glory figures are TERRIBLE!  There is so much carving required to make them usable.  Redoubt does have some casting issues from time to time, but otherwise I do like their minis.  They look the part, and don't have weird ankle joints or bones protruding from the skin like Old Glory.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Bloggard on July 11, 2022, 09:20:23 AM
great sounding game and looking board.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: LeadAsbestos on July 11, 2022, 12:46:05 PM
Nice looking game!
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: rumacara on July 11, 2022, 01:03:11 PM
Great game and terrain. :-* :-*
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Easy E on July 11, 2022, 07:19:41 PM
Love the theme to this game.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Elk101 on July 11, 2022, 09:19:58 PM
Excellent idea for a game.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Maniac on July 12, 2022, 03:07:50 PM
Thanks all, if was an enjoyable time spent with my son.  It got him also wanting to paint up/create his own warband.  So that is also a plus.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: rumacara on July 12, 2022, 04:20:06 PM
Can i ask what stats did you use for your warbands please?
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Maniac on July 13, 2022, 01:27:55 AM
Ithaca:

Odysseus:  D10/D10, Leader, Quick, 9 Lives, Cunning, Sharp Tongued, Sword, Spear, Shield, Light Armor - He wins a foot race after the death of Achillies and is known for his sharp tongue and cunning mind

Epiratus:  D10/D10, Deadly Strike, Shield Master, Sword, Spear, Shield, Light Armor - from a fiction series about Odysseus, reputed to be a deadly fighter

Ithacan Spearman x2: D10/D10, Indomitable, Spear, Sword, Shield - They suffer all the way through the Odyssey

Achaean Archer:  D10/D10, Sniper, Bow, Dagger

Trojans:

Deiphobus:  D-/D12, Leader, Brute, Encouraging, Infiltrator, Running Attack, Spear, Sword, Light Armor, Shield - a later husband of Helen, supposedly a bit of a Brute, but a Trojan Leader who supports Hector

Helenus:  D10/D10, Healer, Strategist, Sword, Spear, Shield, Light Armor - companion of Deiphobus, a priest/seer and devotee of Apollo

Trojan Spearman x2:  D10/D10, Loyal, Sword, Spear, Shield - as the besieged, where do they run to?

Trojan Peltast:  D10/D10, Sniper, Javelins, Shield, Dagger
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: DivisMal on July 13, 2022, 03:53:12 AM
Oh shiny! Love the idea of Troyan war skirmishes and your tabletop looks fabulous.  :o Very nice AAR.

Im really tempted with FfoL Fantasy. Its currently however the investment of three books that has stopped me.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: rumacara on July 13, 2022, 08:54:20 AM
Maniac, thank you for your answer. :)
I will have to try one of these days. I have some 20 Trojans and 20 Sea Peoples figures to do some skirmish games.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: BaronVonJ on July 13, 2022, 01:13:21 PM
Great game. Love the stats. Good excuse to paint my Foundry Trojans..
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: blacksoilbill on July 13, 2022, 02:06:06 PM
That's a great looking game.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Maniac on July 13, 2022, 06:59:28 PM
I will also recommend chits to track who has been activated, particularly with multiple players.  At the club, in other games, we've had a couple times of "did I use him/her already?"

Even in this game my son had a moment where he forgot, and using the little greek coins (place them as you use a model on one turn, remove them as you use them on the next) helped resolve it very quick without argument.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: DivisMal on July 14, 2022, 05:10:40 AM
I will also recommend chits to track who has been activated, particularly with multiple players.  At the club, in other games, we've had a couple times of "did I use him/her already?"

Even in this game my son had a moment where he forgot, and using the little greek coins (place them as you use a model on one turn, remove them as you use them on the next) helped resolve it very quick without argument.

Has anyone tried playing with ignoring the rule that a model can only be activated once per turn? Could be suitable heroic for the Trojan war to represent the aristeias of the Greek a
and Trojan heroes.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: BaronVonJ on July 14, 2022, 01:53:04 PM
What we have done for years: character cards. Turn them over or side ways after a miniature has activated. Less clutter. Also keeps crafty characters from seeing whos gone.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on July 15, 2022, 03:48:05 PM
Lovely looking table, and great AAR.

My poor Trojans never get a break either...
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Marine0846 on July 16, 2022, 02:26:25 AM
Lovely table and figures.
Great that your son likes to play.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Maniac on August 03, 2022, 01:49:17 AM
I need to do some minor edits to fix things, but here are cards I've done for various leaders and factions:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N2NzdrlqoeKOTBgwEI323muQ4ZP08oto/edit#slide=id.p1

I ran a scenario for the group based on the one I played with my son, and it went well.  We used a change to the rules, where Sergeants and Leaders could not be rendered out of action on to wound rolls except by other Sergeants and Leaders.  It made for an epic battle.  Memnon fought off multiple Achaeans in the middle of the table before Achilles finally did him in.  'History' repeats itself.

Overall the game ended in a draw, and no gods showed up to make things interesting.  If players had a joker, and they were a Sergeant or Leader, they could use the Joker to activate normally as well as call on one of the gods.  See below for the gods.  The gods in white either side could call on, gods in blue only Achaeans, and in red only Trojans.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13sRAysy9Dwxf4GL5eIJcQjCWLFdo6pRg/edit?rtpof=true#gid=1489668840
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: nervisfr on August 04, 2022, 07:27:34 AM
What we have done for years: character cards. Turn them over or side ways after a miniature has activated. Less clutter. Also keeps crafty characters from seeing whos gone.

i'll keep that in mind for your future games  ;)
Don't like too much counters around a figurine. Especially in convention games. That could give a bad idea of the game to the public.

Cheers
Eric
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: BaronVonJ on August 05, 2022, 05:16:03 PM
Yes, we keep the counters on the cards for our games. We put on the table to help newbies and for videos.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: Ragnar on August 05, 2022, 09:43:52 PM
Lovely looking game.
Title: Re: FFoL M&M - Trojan War Skirmish
Post by: johnl5555 on September 27, 2022, 11:57:05 PM
  I downloaded the figure cards. Thanks for that! The second google docs files says you need to request access. I'm a big FFOL fanboy. I think I'd use Bigger Battles and do this in 1/72 and some 20mm from Newline Designs. I was also thinking about using a variant of Lion Rampant.

Thanks

John