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Title: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Calimero on August 03, 2022, 01:20:49 PM
Here’s a copy of two posts I’ve made on the Stargrave - Official Players' Page on FB. As I didn’t get the replies I was hoping for, I decided to post them here on LAF.

I know that the Merc II box is coming, it was officially announced since I post my first comment. What I would really like to know is about civilian figures and if that would be a useful set for Stargrave players.

Original posts on FB;
Over the last few months, I’ve slowly assembled the figures from the Mercenaries box and, just now, realise that it was actually written Mercenaries I on the sprues. Is a second mercenaries set planed? Also, I don’t know if it would be a viable option, but what about a civilian boxed set? It could be made of half bodies with choice of standing or sitting legs, separated torsos and heads (male and female, humans and aliens), figures could be done with opened hands with a choice of tools, weapons, sci-fi gizmo, etc.


I was asking about civilians because I would like to add some figures to my collection that would be more like terrain/diorama elements. From what I understand from the rules, you don’t need more than 10 figures per side to play a “normal” game. With all the available boxes so far and the kit bashing I’ve done, I think I have around 100 figures or so…
That was the basis for my request for a civilian set.


Cheers! 8)
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Kourtchatovium104 on August 03, 2022, 01:50:09 PM
You can make some civilians with the crew II sprues (suitcase, arms without weapons) or mixing it with other sprues (that what I've done). Alas, no sitting ones!
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: zemjw on August 03, 2022, 02:10:50 PM
Colony-87 from Crooked Dice is a good source for civilians. Hasslefree has some that work, as does Infinity (although they can be very tall).

Most of the rest of mine seem to be by companies that I don't think exist anymore, which is a shame.

Zombiesmith for alien civilians, probably something from CP models as well.

However, if they produce a civilians sprue, or even just a sprue of arms with bags and tricorder type things), I will be very happy
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Calimero on August 03, 2022, 02:44:00 PM
... However, if they produce a civilians sprue, or even just a sprue of arms with bags and tricorder type things), I will be very happy

Yes, that would be nice… As I’m more of a figure’s painter/collector than a true wargamer, I like to have a lot a variety in my collection.

I think I have some unarmed aliens (from Reaper) somewhere… I also have a small numbers of Greys from CP models and Copplestone that are just standing, doing nothing ;)
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on August 03, 2022, 04:04:55 PM
I would love to see a civilian box set for Stargrave.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Pattus Magnus on August 03, 2022, 05:25:33 PM
The existing Crew sets are a good start for civilians as long as you can find enough arms that aren’t holding weapons. A dedicated civilian set or parts sprue would be a brilliant addition, though, and give a lot more variety!

A pick-and-mix robot set with a few non-combat utility arms, etc, would also  add some possibilities for civilian cyborgs and ‘bots.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Golgotha on August 03, 2022, 05:33:11 PM
I think every period and scale is crying out for more civilians but particularly Sci-fi...

I even resorted to Mantic's funny ball game for civilians. But then I think most players are more likely to buy and are willing to spend more on combat miniatures...

Certainly many miniatures can be demilitarised by taking away weapons etc. but it is hardly ideal.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Calimero on August 03, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
I think every period and scale is crying out for more civilians but particularly Sci-fi...

... Certainly many miniatures can be demilitarised by taking away weapons etc. but it is hardly ideal.

Hence my inquiry for a dedicated Stargrave civilan boxed set...  ;D
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Lord Faoil on August 03, 2022, 08:14:14 PM
I set my games on a desert world & use the Noresmian Nights range for civilians along with various others.
There's a lot of historical,particularly feudal types, available on-line but it's hard to find dedicated Sci-Fi alright.
I too would love a set dedicated to sci-fi types.
Sci-Fi Pilgrims range on Etsy have 3 sets & are very Sci-Fi agnostic. I'd recommend them
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: eilif on August 03, 2022, 09:00:34 PM
I also like unarmed civilian Sci Fi figures.
Reaper has some. Rosie Chronotechnician springs to mind.
Metal Magic Spacelords line has a few.
If you don't mind 34mm, lots of Heroclix might fit the bill.

For seated figures, the pilots in the Lead Bones SWAT line are cheap and effective basic pilot types. They're also just slightly undersized so they fit better in toy vehicles and such. There's a male and female version in seated and standing positions. Standing positions aren't undersized and have holsters, but aren't brandishing.

The only shortcoming is that the female pilot head is pretty crude but the heads come separate and it's easy to swap in other heads.
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/lbsmodsingle.html
Figs 17-20. There's two unarmed Hazmat figs on there I wish I'd bought last time also. They'd make great civies, perhaps with a head swap. Especially the one carrying two duffels.

Lastly There's a couple other unarmed figs in the civilians section, but not very sci Fi.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Hummster on September 18, 2022, 05:24:57 PM
CP Models have human and alien civilians in 28mm
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: nozza_uk on September 18, 2022, 05:38:33 PM
However, if they produce a civilians sprue, or even just a sprue of arms with bags and tricorder type things), I will be very happy

Check here https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/product-category/sally_4th_miniatures/landing_party_scifi_range/?mc_cid=e6dbde9e90&mc_eid=f10c0e652d (https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/product-category/sally_4th_miniatures/landing_party_scifi_range/?mc_cid=e6dbde9e90&mc_eid=f10c0e652d)
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: fred on September 18, 2022, 07:27:57 PM
However, if they produce a civilians sprue, or even just a sprue of arms with bags and tricorder type things), I will be very happy

This would be cool - even just a few more options on any new sprues.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Redmao on September 21, 2022, 10:39:21 AM
Hydra Miniatures have a nice range of space age civilians, but I don't know how tall they'll be compared to Stargrave little dudes.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: swiftnick on September 21, 2022, 12:43:25 PM
Yes would also really like to see a civilian set. Relaxed poses with empty hands preferably. Maybe a seperate sprue of bags or whatever.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: commissarmoody on September 21, 2022, 02:22:53 PM
Yeah, always down for some civilian figs.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: swiftnick on September 22, 2022, 06:06:30 AM
I set my games on a desert world & use the Noresmian Nights range for civilians along with various others.
There's a lot of historical,particularly feudal types, available on-line but it's hard to find dedicated Sci-Fi alright.
I too would love a set dedicated to sci-fi types.
Sci-Fi Pilgrims range on Etsy have 3 sets & are very Sci-Fi agnostic. I'd recommend them

Would love to pick the Noresmian figures up.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: NotifyGrout on September 27, 2022, 04:17:13 PM
The existing Crew sets are a good start for civilians as long as you can find enough arms that aren’t holding weapons. A dedicated civilian set or parts sprue would be a brilliant addition, though, and give a lot more variety!

A pick-and-mix robot set with a few non-combat utility arms, etc, would also  add some possibilities for civilian cyborgs and ‘bots.

This is the way. Wargames Atlantic has something like this with their Death Fields Upgrade Sprue. If nothing else, it would be nice to have more ready-to-go options for models that aren't holding a weapon in one hand.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on September 27, 2022, 07:06:07 PM
What would be equally useful is the "other" hand (neutral or carrying something).

Of course you can then pair a right and left "other" hand for a civilian.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: eilif on September 27, 2022, 11:59:22 PM
If you don't mind them being a bit bigger (and this can be helped by using 1mm bases) than your Stargrave minis, Heroclix is a great source for civies.  I've bought a ton of them for my Christmas train layout and there are loads available for a buck or less each.

https://chicagovalleyrailroad.blogspot.com/2021/12/heroclix-cheap-painted-148-figures-for.html

They're typically around 34mm if you're buy recent figures made prior to the 2021 scale change which jumped  to 40mm+.   If you buy figures from the early days, of the game, they are typically in the 28-31mm range.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: ithoriel on September 28, 2022, 02:25:24 AM
There are quite a few 3D printed Sci-fi figures available on Etsy in 28mm and 32mm scale. Including quite a few unarmed civilians, though these are often mixed with armed civilians.

Alas I do my sci-fi gaming in 20mm and so most are no use to me.

They can be quite pricey if postage is not local.
Title: Re: Civilians for Stargrave?
Post by: Digitarii on October 05, 2022, 01:30:38 AM
Personally, I would get aftermarket hands and arms from Anvil Industry, Mad Robot, any manufacturer that makes aftermarket bits will have kits with non-weapon hands and arms.

As far as seated models are concerned,  there are plenty of WW2 kits with seated crews that have separate bodies and legs. I'm pretty sure Mad Robot makes seated legs as well. Anvil industry as well, but I'm fairly certain they are designed for use with their heavy weapons kits.