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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Emperorbaz on November 04, 2022, 09:47:40 AM

Title: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated jun 2023)
Post by: Emperorbaz on November 04, 2022, 09:47:40 AM
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I’m starting an Army of 4th Century Romans using plastic figures. The first unit I have completed is the Marcomanni, an Auxilia Palatina unit.
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans
Post by: sgzleada71 on November 04, 2022, 12:20:11 PM
superb work. 
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Post by: Tim Haslam on November 04, 2022, 04:55:34 PM
Wow  :o
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Post by: Grumpy Gnome on November 04, 2022, 05:30:35 PM
Great work! 👍
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Post by: Freddy on November 04, 2022, 07:39:59 PM
Wow, they look great!
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Post by: Easy E on November 04, 2022, 07:41:13 PM
Fire!   Nicely done. I look forward to more.
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Post by: Cyrus1 on November 04, 2022, 11:45:46 PM
Fantastic unit! What happened to your blog?
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Post by: Atheling on November 05, 2022, 09:21:59 AM
Lovely work mate  :-*
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Post by: Emperorbaz on November 05, 2022, 05:24:13 PM
Thank you.
The blog was just too much of a faff to update. I use the iPad, and there’s no decent app for blogger I can find.
I’m just finishing off the basing on another Auxilia Palatina unit, and Lanciarii. Meanwhile I’m assembling my newly arrived archers…
Lots more to follow
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Post by: bigredbat on November 05, 2022, 05:41:33 PM
Looking great Baz! I love that martiobarbuli.
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Post by: Atheling on November 05, 2022, 05:41:39 PM
Thank you.
The blog was just too much of a faff to update. I use the iPad, and there’s no decent app for blogger I can find.
I’m just finishing off the basing on another Auxilia Palatina unit, and Lanciarii. Meanwhile I’m assembling my newly arrived archers…
Lots more to follow

I look forward to seeing more matey  :)
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Post by: wmyers on November 06, 2022, 08:17:55 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (unit 2 added)
Post by: Emperorbaz on November 07, 2022, 09:07:03 AM
Following on from my first unit (to give them their full name, the Honoriani Marcomanni Iuniores), the next unit of Auxilia Palatina is the Falchovarii. It has been suggested that this unit could have used the falx, so I have used some parts from the Victrix Dacian set to give them this deadly weapon.

With all of the shields I am going to use my own shield designs (a re-imagining of the illustrations in the Notitia Dignitatum) and have made my own water slide transfers.

I’m going to have the spear armies Auxilia in units of 18 figures based in sixes on a 60mm frontage (50mm depth)

I’m pleased that the Victrix unarmoured models have not had the patches (clavi) sculpted onto them. This gives me the opportunity of painting them with or without, so for example I might have some border/garrison units (limitanei) in plain tunics.

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Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (unit 2 added)
Post by: Emperorbaz on November 09, 2022, 07:55:00 PM
Next up, for my New Late Roman army, are a unit of archers, a lanciarii unit and a unit of slingers

The archers are the Sagittarii seniores Orientale; all are from the Victrix late Roman archers set.

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The next unit is the Lanciarii Gallicani Honoriani, based is such a way that I can also use the as skirmishers. These are a mixture of Roman and Germanic bodies.

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The third unit is the Funditores; 8 slingers from the Victrix dark age pack with heads from the late Roman set.

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Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (3 more units added - 9th Nov)
Post by: Cyrus1 on November 09, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Great work!
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Post by: Pattus Magnus on November 09, 2022, 08:28:31 PM
Those look great!
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Post by: Freddy on November 09, 2022, 08:51:38 PM
Some really cool looking units!
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Post by: Maniac on November 10, 2022, 04:18:21 PM
They look great.  What size bases are you using?  I've found Victrix to look great, but difficult to put onto a 20x20 or 40x40 base, with four figures in the 40x40 foot print.
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (3 more units added - 9th Nov)
Post by: WorkShy on November 10, 2022, 05:58:29 PM
They look great.  What size bases are you using?  I've found Victrix to look great, but difficult to put onto a 20x20 or 40x40 base, with four figures in the 40x40 foot print.
I'm currently working my way through 72 Victrix Unarmoured Infantry and 72 Archers. I'm using either some spare custom Warbase movement trays which take 20x20mm bases but have a 5mm separation between each rank. Or I'm using 20x25mm or 40x50mm bases, again to give 5mm more depth between ranks. With 20x20 or 40x40, I've found too many active poses just result in spears ramming into the backs of the guy in front. The 20mm width per mini doesn't seem to be an issue. 
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (3 more units added - 9th Nov)
Post by: Emperorbaz on November 10, 2022, 07:20:46 PM
They look great.  What size bases are you using?  I've found Victrix to look great, but difficult to put onto a 20x20 or 40x40 base, with four figures in the 40x40 foot print.
Yep they are too big for 20mm square or round bases. This is going to be a” big battle” army so I am putting 6 on a 60mm frontage (50mm depth) double ranked, and that’s tight. For the archers though I’ve bases the single ranked (three on a 60mm x 30mm base) so I can use them as a unit in their own right or as the third rank in a unit of Auxilia / legions with spears.
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (3 more units added - 9th Nov)
Post by: killshot on November 17, 2022, 02:34:01 AM
Love some Late Romans and these are no exception!  Great work all around
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 19/11)
Post by: Emperorbaz on November 19, 2022, 11:49:40 AM
The army so far. I’ve added some more Roman archers so I now have 3 units of 18 auxiliaries (archers, and 2 spearmen) and 3 units of 8 skirmishers (javelin, bow and sling).
I’ve just got two more unarmoured units to do then I’ll pause while I wait for the release of the heavy infantry! Hopefully they will be here before Christmas, please Santa!

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Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 19/11)
Post by: Emperorbaz on December 01, 2022, 07:21:42 PM
This week i have finished 2 units of Auxilia Palatina from Victrix miniatures:
1.The Honoriani Attecotti Iuniores

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2.The Exculcatores Iuniores Britanniciani (The Squashers from Briton)

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The Squashers are my favourite unit so far, with clean linen tunics and purple clavii, the bees knees as they say.  The Attecotti on the other hand as less well equipped, with darker tunics and fewer helmets to represent a lesser unit, possibly raw and hastily recruited fellows.

Im very pleased with how these shield designs turned out, its not a great moneysaver (printer ink is expensive) but it is a joy to do.

Im looking forward to the armoured infantry from victrix. Fingers crossed the wait wont be too long

I have also done a unit of Cataphracts, (Gripping Beast). The cataphracts horses are very good. All of these figures had head swaps - replacing them with some from the huge pile of Victrix heads i have left over!

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Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 1/12)
Post by: Atheling on December 01, 2022, 09:20:36 PM
Lovely work   8)

I was admiring these on Facebook earlier today  :)
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 1/12)
Post by: Cyrus1 on December 01, 2022, 09:24:09 PM
Great work Baz! It’s interesting that GB have released a plastic Parthian cataphract set based on their Late Roman cataphracts, only the heads are different I think, horses and torsos are the same.
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 1/12)
Post by: Emperorbaz on December 01, 2022, 09:48:35 PM
Great work Baz! It’s interesting that GB have released a plastic Parthian cataphract set based on their Late Roman cataphracts, only the heads are different I think, horses and torsos are the same.

Yes im thinking about trying a headswap with aventine parthians, could work well. And with victrix doing parthian horse archers soonish thats another interesting army in the making!
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Post by: Bloggard on December 04, 2022, 02:26:08 PM
lovely stuff.
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 5/12)
Post by: Emperorbaz on December 05, 2022, 02:54:20 PM
This week i have finished the last of my unarmoured  Late Roman infantry - 2 units of Legiones Comitatenses from Victrix miniatures, representing the Secunda Britannica. Both units have rear rank archers and my own shield transfers

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Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 5/12)
Post by: Atheling on December 05, 2022, 02:59:45 PM
Splendid work Basileus/Autokrator  :-*
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Post by: Freddy on December 05, 2022, 06:07:20 PM
Great looking models!
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Post by: Pattus Magnus on December 05, 2022, 07:18:26 PM
Those are beautiful! Late Roman/ Romano-British armies have great colours and patterns.
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on December 05, 2022, 07:30:38 PM
Very nice  :)
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 9/1)
Post by: Emperorbaz on January 09, 2023, 03:45:50 PM
Over christmas, with no prospect of Victrix late roman cavalry being released yet, I decided to proceed to convert a unit of heavy cavalry with a more eastern feel to them. I needed some Equites in my Victrix Late Roman Army for the Welsh Open To the Strongest competition in a couple of weeks time.

My start point was the victrix persian heavy cavalry, with the addition of a few roman items of equipment. This is loosely based on some of the excellent illustrations on a recent osprey series of books on Rome in the East, though these illustrations come from the Early or Middle imperial Roman era.

Ive taken one of the shield designs unattributed to a particular Roman unit in Phil Barkers “Armies and Enemies of Imperial Rome” - an image taken from a Roman Fort in Luxor. The other additions being a Roman helmet and spears.

So the result is a unit of native or locally recruited  Equites Indiginae or Equites Promoti; and although entirely conjectural, I’m really pleased with the result.
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 9/1)
Post by: Easy E on January 09, 2023, 04:18:17 PM
Very nice.  I just finished some Persian Heavy Cavalry too.  I think yours look much better.


I have also decided to hold off starting my own Late Roman army until Victrix releases a few more units for them.  Heavy infantry soon I hope!
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated 9/1)
Post by: Atheling on January 09, 2023, 08:51:00 PM
Lovely work and a great idea  8)
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Post by: David H on January 10, 2023, 08:29:41 AM
Great work on this army, and I really like the cavalry conversion  :)
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Post by: sgzleada71 on January 10, 2023, 09:42:15 AM
Excellent conversion.  Well done !
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated jun 2023)
Post by: Emperorbaz on June 07, 2023, 01:23:34 PM
Finally the heavy infantry are here!

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Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated jun 2023)
Post by: LouieN on June 09, 2023, 07:45:43 PM
A proud shield wall!  What specific battle are you planning to use your Romans for?
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated jun 2023)
Post by: Emperorbaz on June 10, 2023, 05:30:17 PM
What specific battle are you planning to use your Romans for?

None really, I’m just painting them because they are great figures and I love the period!
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated jun 2023)
Post by: Emperorbaz on July 03, 2023, 03:06:11 PM
More Late Roman auxilia units
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Post by: Atheling on July 03, 2023, 03:51:18 PM
More fabulous work mon ami  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: EmperorBaz’s New Late Romans (updated jun 2023)
Post by: nikkobourges on July 08, 2023, 11:03:38 AM
Hello,

Excellent paintjob !!!

Nikkobourges