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Title: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 03:29:09 PM
Im a big fan of Perry Miniatures, as Im sure most of us here are. After assembling several boxes of the War of the Roses, I realized how many spare hands, heads and bits are left over. I could literally make another army if I had some more bodies. One solution would be just to order some more Perry boxes, but then I would be left with even more bits. One could propose to make some resin copies of the Perrys' sculpts but it didnt sit well with me. But what if I was sculpting some original bodies by myself?

I have to say that I really enjoy making these. Once you make sure that the arm and head sockets are right to ensure compatibility with the Perry plastics, they are quite easy to make and a great exercise in sculpting too. The material is Beesputty polymer clay over a copper wire armature. I have three variants ready by now, but Im working on 2 more.
Since the Perry bros covered most of the shinning armor options, I focused more on rank and file/mercenary types. Eventually I will sculpt my own heads and hands too, probably all the pike formation attacking variants, since the plastics provide only options for pikes at rest/attention.

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Charlie_ on December 06, 2022, 03:54:27 PM
Wowee, they look fantastic!!

Are you the chap who sculpted some rather excellent Spartans?

So of course the big question is - are you planning to have these cast up and sold, and when will you take our money?!

 
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 04:12:17 PM
Wowee, they look fantastic!!

Are you the chap who sculpted some rather excellent Spartans?

So of course the big question is - are you planning to have these cast up and sold, and when will you take our money?!

Thank you!
If you mean these, then yes  :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117693.msg1474366#msg1474366

I will cast them for sure (because I need them too lol) and I would be happy to take your money  :). In fact If you have any suggestions for bodies wearing a specific armor kit, I would seriously take them into consideration. I was also thinking of doing 2-3 minis wearing those fancy a la Romana armors. I did a first attempt some time ago (literally my first sculpt) but I believe I can do better now.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=104588.60
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: MaleGriffin on December 06, 2022, 05:14:05 PM
Brilliant! I'd buy these if they were available. Excellent work!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: fred on December 06, 2022, 05:35:11 PM
Those are great!

You are right the Perry kits provide so many spare arms and heads, being able to add some more bodies would be great, and some different body options is even better!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Charlie_ on December 06, 2022, 06:33:41 PM
I will cast them for sure (because I need them too lol) and I would be happy to take your money  :). In fact If you have any suggestions for bodies wearing a specific armor kit, I would seriously take them into consideration. I was also thinking of doing 2-3 minis wearing those fancy a la Romana armors. I did a first attempt some time ago (literally my first sculpt) but I believe I can do better now.
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=104588.60

I do indeed have many suggestions! Perhaps I could PM them to you?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 07:12:33 PM
I do indeed have many suggestions! Perhaps I could PM them to you?

By all means do!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Blood on December 06, 2022, 08:20:11 PM
Rather good  8)

Well done :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 08:27:00 PM
Rather good  8)

Well done :)
Its all your fault  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Blood on December 06, 2022, 08:29:39 PM
I know lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 08:54:31 PM
I know lol
Seriously I joined the forum when I first saw your thread and since then, Im only going deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole  lol lol lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Rick F on December 06, 2022, 10:03:18 PM
These are just excellent, what a talent.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 10:17:45 PM
These are just excellent, what a talent.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: commissarmoody on December 06, 2022, 10:42:49 PM
Rather well done. I started fallowing your work because of the fantasy romen you made for famous by my sword.
If your takeing suggestions, I will put out the idea of 15th century Turks, and 15th Byzantine/Greeks.   :D
I've been reading some of the Thomas Snow series and and am haveing a hard time finding forces that cover that era for both of those forces.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 06, 2022, 11:02:26 PM
Rather well done. I started fallowing your work because of the fantasy romen you made for famous by my sword.
If your takeing suggestions, I will put out the idea of 15th century Turks, and 15th Byzantine/Greeks.   :D
I've been reading some of the Thomas Snow series and and am haveing a hard time finding forces that cover that era for both of those forces.
Thank you!
Actually the idea of a Roman band of mercenaries adventuring in Europe, after the fall of the City is an idea that dances around my head for a long time. I know that Thomas of Argos and his band are part of the Henry VIII's campaigns, but its fairly possible that some would be around earlier.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: commissarmoody on December 07, 2022, 01:01:35 AM
Kind of a last of the Romans project.   :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Atheling on December 07, 2022, 06:57:22 PM
15th century Turks, and 15th Byzantine/Greeks.   :D

15th Century Ottomans and Byzantines would be a dream come true- no one does them at all.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: commissarmoody on December 07, 2022, 10:53:11 PM
15th Century Ottomans and Byzantines would be a dream come true- no one does them at all.
  Agreed, would be pretty cool.. Perry's need to stop making Napoleonic Andorra dragoons and do this.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Atheling on December 08, 2022, 09:54:42 AM
  Agreed, would be pretty cool.. Perry's need to stop making Napoleonic Andorra dragoons and do this.

I wish!  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: vodkafan on December 09, 2022, 02:32:40 AM
Push Captain Harlock further down the rabbit hole till he can't get out!  ;D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Blood on December 09, 2022, 08:43:33 PM
  Agreed, would be pretty cool.. Perry's need to stop making Napoleonic Andorra dragoons and do this.

Hilarious.
But true.
Alan p has an obscure Napoleonic obsession
It’s a shame - they could produce so much more marketable stuff.
But they are happy doing the things they want to do, and who can blame them?  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: commissarmoody on December 09, 2022, 10:28:00 PM
Oh I jest, it's his passion project and he can enjoy it to his hearts content. Just doesn't do much for me.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Black Burt on December 10, 2022, 08:46:32 AM
Very nice,  would be interested if the WoR figures become available for sale.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Goliad on December 10, 2022, 06:36:13 PM
These look great! It would be useful to have more "common" body types for Swiss, Shire Levy, Peasant Revolts etc.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: DivisMal on December 10, 2022, 06:41:45 PM
What a great idea! I really love what you’re doing here.

+1 to getting them cast and making them available!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: painterman on December 11, 2022, 04:20:37 PM
Wow, those look fantastic - great sculpting and I've sent you a PM.
Kind regards, Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 11, 2022, 11:58:27 PM
Push Captain Harlock further down the rabbit hole till he can't get out!  ;D

 lol lol lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 12, 2022, 12:28:17 AM
Wow, those look fantastic - great sculpting and I've sent you a PM.
Kind regards, Simon

Thank you so much Simon, I will respond asap
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 18, 2022, 06:01:56 PM
Time for some new entries. 2 new bodies. One with fabric padded armour and one with a surcoat over the cuirass.

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 18, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
Love them, and can't wait to see more. I know I am interested in picking a few up at some point.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Abrasapuentes on December 18, 2022, 07:19:47 PM
I envy you "total artists", capable of painting and sculpting wonderfully. The sculpting is magnificent and having the ability to add a variety of poses to existing ones is always great news. I will follow the progress with great interest.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 18, 2022, 07:24:48 PM
I envy you "total artists", capable of painting and sculpting wonderfully. The sculpting is magnificent and having the ability to add a variety of poses to existing ones is always great news. I will follow the progress with great interest.

Thank you.
Generally if you can draw you can sculpt and vice versa. Personally I dont believe in talent. Its just about putting the hours in and I have to put many many more. I consider myself a novice.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit on December 19, 2022, 07:11:55 AM
Please delete old account
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on December 19, 2022, 11:03:56 AM
These look absolutely fabulous Captain Harlock, would love to buy these if they become available, will watch this with interest.

I remember you did a Burgundian tunic over armour a few years back which was also amazing would you make that available too?


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I consider myself a novice.

Your scuplting is masterful i was looking at your Greeks and they are superb too, you are up there with the best scuplting ive ever seen
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 19, 2022, 12:20:40 PM
These look absolutely fabulous Captain Harlock, would love to buy these if they become available, will watch this with interest.

I remember you did a Burgundian tunic over armour a few years back which was also amazing would you make that available too?


Your scuplting is masterful i was looking at your Greeks and they are superb too, you are up there with the best scuplting ive ever seen
Thank you so much for your kind words. I intend to sculpt maybe 3 or 4 full minis, not just bodies, in fancy Romanesque armour and tunic on with the sleeves hanging back etc
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Atheling on December 19, 2022, 12:55:43 PM
Thank you so much for your kind words. I intend to sculpt maybe 3 or 4 full minis, not just bodies, in fancy Romanesque armour and tunic on with the sleeves hanging back etc

I'm really looking forward to seeing these new sculpts as I suspect many of us are  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 19, 2022, 03:11:53 PM
Thank you so much for your kind words. I intend to sculpt maybe 3 or 4 full minis, not just bodies, in fancy Romanesque armour and tunic on with the sleeves hanging back etc
That is pretty cool, I think I would also be down for some of them as well. So how many bodies of that design do you think you will be making?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures Updated
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 19, 2022, 03:42:24 PM
That is pretty cool, I think I would also be down for some of them as well. So how many bodies of that design do you think you will be making?

The Romanesque ones will be complete minis because the armor design is incomplete without the same style arms, and the Perrys don’t have something similar in their plastic ranges.
As for the bodies I really don’t know how many I’m going to make finally, really depends on the inspiration. Right now there are 5 different designs. I’m focused on rank and file units and a bit better armed mercenary types. I don’t think that there is any value of doing full harnesses since the Perrys pretty much covered those.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: GulKelan on December 19, 2022, 03:58:20 PM
your sculpts are absolutly amazing!
how or where did you learned to sculpt folds on fabric that well?
something i completly lack at.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on December 19, 2022, 04:05:57 PM
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I intend to sculpt maybe 3 or 4 full minis, not just bodies, in fancy Romanesque armour and tunic on with the sleeves hanging back etc

That is Brilliant news cannot wait =)!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 19, 2022, 05:18:04 PM
your sculpts are absolutly amazing!
how or where did you learned to sculpt folds on fabric that well?
something i completly lack at.

Thank you!
I think it all comes from drawing. Im a graphic designer and I also like to draw and paint among other stuff. Basically the way Im dealing with it is understanding how the forms of the subject work, and then break them apart in my mind into simple basic shapes that are ''assembled'' and finetuned.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on December 19, 2022, 06:31:04 PM
More beauties!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures Updated
Post by: commissarmoody on December 19, 2022, 07:53:35 PM
The Romanesque ones will be complete minis because the armor design is incomplete without the same style arms, and the Perrys don’t have something similar in their plastic ranges.
As for the bodies I really don’t know how many I’m going to make finally, really depends on the inspiration. Right now there are 5 different designs. I’m focused on rank and file units and a bit better armed mercenary types. I don’t think that there is any value of doing full harnesses since the Perrys pretty much covered those.

Cool, will they have a mostly a leadership, close combat or range weapons focus?
Might I also suggest a few cavalry as well. For I guess light or medium cavalry.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures Updated
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 19, 2022, 08:22:20 PM

Cool, will they have a mostly a leadership, close combat or range weapons focus?
Might I also suggest a few cavalry as well. For I guess light or medium cavalry.
I was thinking of polearms/swords mainly. I mean look at those posh boys, they would probably be afraid of dinging their fancy armor  lol
http://www.pixures.be/web2012bexbach/pages/bxb120994.htm

As for the ''general use'' bodies, Im really open to suggestions if they are coming in a pictorial format even better. Also if there is a certain pose that you believe that is missing from the Perry boxes but would be very useful. Im trying to avoid already existing designs in the plastic boxes, because my aim is for more variety and to be honest the Perry bros really covered many bases.
When it comes to cavalry I think that there might be some space for different poses while riding instead of the sitting straight ones in the boxes. But we will see.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on December 19, 2022, 09:47:43 PM
Will try and find some photos but got lots of ideas especially from all the Swiss chronicles.

How about a crouching one or even prone. a crouching one would be so useful for seiges and ambushes or even running g/charging with handgun/crossbow

Can imagine medeival skirmishes with ranged weapons might of been not so different to today's skirmishes
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 20, 2022, 08:35:40 AM
Yeah, they are pretty fancy. But i thought that was the Burgundian thing, looking good and fighting good. that is at least until the trees start speaking Swiss.  lol
Hmm maybe two sets, one kind of at ease or marching. And one the other actually getting aggressive and advancing or getting ready to receive a charge or attack would be cool. (Before they are literary stuck by spears, crossbows and pikes)
I also think a set like the Perry Italian sword and shield men, only in Burgundian/renaissance Romanisqe armor would look pretty damn cool as well.
Other ideas, maybe a few camp, or noncombatant vignettes?
And one thing I just want and can't seem to find, a head set with bellows face sallet helmets. I am doing an early Henry the 8th army using steel fist dollies and trying to convert over some of the perry plastics and would love too more than a few. And my press molded helmets are ok, just not the best quality. ::)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 21, 2022, 06:15:06 AM
Heck the Alla Antica style could be used as Fantasy late medieval romans as well.
Like for the not Roaman faction in games like made "famous by my sword". That you already made a guy for.  ;D
Of course, now i am thinking of archers, cavalry, crossbowmen and hand gunners.  lol
Or maybe just use them as the leaders and bodyguards of commanders and use the rest of the perry medieval line for the rank and file. ::)
But they do strike a very heroic style and look. Even if not the most functional on the battlefield.
Like I wonder how historically accurate this bloke on the cover of the Medieval warfare magazine special "Fall of Constantinople", is. 
https://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/en-us/products/mw-special-1
Looks good ether way you slice it.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 22, 2022, 01:54:01 PM
Heck the Alla Antica style could be used as Fantasy late medieval romans as well.
Like for the not Roaman faction in games like made "famous by my sword". That you already made a guy for.  ;D
Of course, now i am thinking of archers, cavalry, crossbowmen and hand gunners.  lol
Or maybe just use them as the leaders and bodyguards of commanders and use the rest of the perry medieval line for the rank and file. ::)
But they do strike a very heroic style and look. Even if not the most functional on the battlefield.
Like I wonder how historically accurate this bloke on the cover of the Medieval warfare magazine special "Fall of Constantinople", is. 
https://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/en-us/products/mw-special-1
Looks good ether way you slice it.

I really like that style of armor. It just hits my Greco-Roman soft spot. Unfortunatelly there are not any remains that I know off of a similar armour from Constantinople. But in my mind its very plausible. By the time of the fall most of the Roman (they never called themselves Byzantine) armor making centers have collapse. It is expected that most of the nobles and men at arms would wear armour made in Italy not a clibanion lamelar armor. But I believe that at least the richer ones would not resist to add some ''classical'' elements to their custom armour. They really believed that they were the inheritors of Greece and Rome. They talked about it casually in a way that might seem strange to people today considering the centuries past. Ι mean even at the very last moment, Constantine IX in his last speech at the eve of the final stage of the siege, addressing the nobles, soldiers and people of the City, casually added references to the Carthaginian Wars and called his people offsprings of the Greeks and the Romans.

The full speech is here as recorded by Georgios Sfrantzes, the emperor's best friend and official. Pure real Gondor moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csxvE8hdu24
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 23, 2022, 07:09:56 AM
That is a pretty impressive speech. And yeah, Rome in the east lasted 1000 years after the fall of the Empire of the west. And more Hellenic than Latin in lots of ways. Just not in clibanion lamelar in the end. lol
Yeah, i have seen some interesting takes on later forces of Constantinople. Some looking like Italians, some having a very middle eastern look and others so where in-between. Not forgetting the Heroic takes depicting them in a Rennaissance view of what a Roman should look like.
Now Of course, i do want to do forces for HYW, WOTR and Early Tudor.
But a part of me was always interested in the Fall of the Eastern Empire. And it always feels strange to me when folks are playing "late' Byzantine forces in 800-900 ad kit. I am like dude, there has been 500 years of change in fashion by that point. :D
And I guess that's one reason why I was taken in by the Neo-Roman look, its feels old, and might not have every been used. But still has a bit of functionality to it and would make for a great fantasy none GWs or Peter Jacksons film look for the forces of Gondor. 
Still glorious, wealthy and martial in appearance. But does the look match their action on the field of battle?  ;)
So I am looking forward to seeing a what you make of them. If nothing else, they will make for some good-looking bodyguards/leaders of a unit. Or as standalone paladins in a skirmish game.
Oh and this is interesting.
https://youtu.be/5j5JfagtT3c
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 23, 2022, 09:02:12 PM
Ι started 2 more bodies, I’m going to try a gothic armour. I blame Charlie  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 23, 2022, 09:20:02 PM
No one needs a excuse to make Gothic armor..that stuff is sexy.  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 23, 2022, 09:40:58 PM
I also got another box of mounted men at arms today. Oh God....  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 23, 2022, 10:20:22 PM
It's a good box set.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on December 23, 2022, 10:31:56 PM
Ι started 2 more bodies, I’m going to try a gothic armour. I blame Charlie  lol

Oh good!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on December 26, 2022, 11:00:03 PM
Absolutely FANYTASTIC! I would love to see these in production! I would love to add them to my Perry units! Bravo!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: superbmiller on December 28, 2022, 11:40:04 AM
Great work, looks amazing. As for recommendations, I always feel we could use more heavily fluted and detailed gothic armor with its sharp angles and edges. For poses, perhaps a classic GW "one foot standing on a rock" pose. Could be useful for leader models. Flat faced owl type sallets are also uncommon in other kits.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on December 28, 2022, 04:28:00 PM
Great work, looks amazing. As for recommendations, I always feel we could use more heavily fluted and detailed gothic armor with its sharp angles and edges. For poses, perhaps a classic GW "one foot standing on a rock" pose. Could be useful for leader models. Flat faced owl type sallets are also uncommon in other kits.

oh that would be cool, I am a fan of the bellows faced sallet myself. But had not heard of the owl faces one before. It looks pretty cool. I think steelfist has a figure with that style of helmet, but in a attack pose.
https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lan-02-landsknecht-front-ranks-open-handed-armoured/

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/ren-3-foot-knights-iii/

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lan-04-landsknechts-mid-ranks-with-open-hands-armoured/
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Tonhel on December 31, 2022, 09:04:04 AM
Fantastic to see mini's from you again :-*. Your Greeks are still the best!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 03, 2023, 02:04:45 AM
Fantastic to see mini's from you again :-*. Your Greeks are still the best!
Thank you Tony!! Really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 03, 2023, 02:07:36 AM
Happy New Year everybody, with abit of a wip.
Gothic Armored body, just needs abit of polishing and its ready for the oven.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/d2/6b/8ad26b483957436b613d51e5e613fc1f.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f7/7c/a9/f77ca975cb390e3e0872b787a0d2a2c9.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/11/80/321180f95fd3b8d7682234c0c164cb5d.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/d9/ed/10d9edad9e34be007cbf52882fac33dc.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 03, 2023, 03:23:56 AM
Well done.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: magyar on January 03, 2023, 07:24:58 AM
What a lovely thread! Keep'em coming  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 03, 2023, 10:30:42 AM
Excellent work on the fluted armour! What do you have planned for the arms?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Atheling on January 03, 2023, 11:34:21 AM
That is a thing of beauty!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: painterman on January 03, 2023, 10:05:29 PM
hey
Fantastic sculpting again - these are looking great.
Have you seen Toby Capwell's new book for inspiration of Italian-imported armour used in England?
https://www.olympiaauctions.com/about-us/publications/armour-of-the-english-knight-continental-armour-in-england-1435-1500-by-tobias-capwell/
all the best
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on January 03, 2023, 11:43:36 PM
Masterful! Absolutely gorgeous!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 04, 2023, 03:16:04 AM
hey
Fantastic sculpting again - these are looking great.
Have you seen Toby Capwell's new book for inspiration of Italian-imported armour used in England?
https://www.olympiaauctions.com/about-us/publications/armour-of-the-english-knight-continental-armour-in-england-1435-1500-by-tobias-capwell/
all the best
Simon

That looks very interesting!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 04, 2023, 03:20:32 AM
And our latest addition to the company

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/44/67/114467fe19ee62b75c56aa754055aacc.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/91/b4/4b91b40ea4342ca163541bf78865dc3c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/7b/f5/d47bf5c1d5cfcdf20d1155a571f4f047.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/03/5f/31035fd1fe3433f57adcb9b096e67446.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/f9/af/33f9af4c99c28b427d4c61d5284af4c7.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/3d/21/113d21fa28357ae8176c16913788fbf7.jpg)

Our new friend wears a gambeson, just a brestplate and leg armor. I really like doing those rag tag, mercenary/rank and file types.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 04, 2023, 06:27:07 AM
Very rag tag. Love it.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Tonhel on January 06, 2023, 03:34:50 PM
Looks amazing! When you sell them I am in as I was with Greeks. Very cool to see you sculpting again!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 07, 2023, 11:48:28 PM
Looks amazing! When you sell them I am in as I was with Greeks. Very cool to see you sculpting again!
Thank you Tony! :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: GulKelan on January 08, 2023, 03:23:12 PM
Looks amazing! When you sell them I am in as I was with Greeks. Very cool to see you sculpting again!

Yes, please tell us the one and only question and dont torture us anymore :D When do you going to cast and sell them?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MeinPanzer on January 08, 2023, 09:25:12 PM
These look fantastic! Sign me up as well to order some when you cast them.

If you're looking to sculpt more alternative options to go with Perry kits, I have two requests for bodies I've always found lacking:

1) A simple belted hauberk with unarmoured legs of the style frequently seen in central Europe, especially among the Swiss:

(https://i.imgur.com/k7corbD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MAI2S5Z.jpg)

2) A brigandine with mail skirt, preferably dagged, of the style common in the Iberian peninsula, either with armoured or unarmoured legs, or both:

(https://i.imgur.com/YE9eRcQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8tHMwXb.jpg)

Sculpting and casting a few of these style would make it immeasurably easier to produce accurate Swiss and Iberian infantry using the Perry kits!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Freddy on January 09, 2023, 05:17:03 PM
Really good sculpting!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Atheling on January 09, 2023, 08:53:02 PM
That is some very nifty putty work!!!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Hupp n at em on January 09, 2023, 10:01:12 PM
Ah man, a few sets of these would surely extend the mileage of my medieval plastic mountain even further.  lol  Results so far are absolutely excellent, great sculpting!  :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 10, 2023, 10:00:26 PM
I started 3 full minis in fancy Romanesque armours, they are still in the ''naked stage'' as I call it. Usually I making the broad strokes of a naked body and then ''dress it up''. Thats my way of remaining consistent and avoiding anatomical accidents  lol

Here are 2 pics of the 7 bodies so far
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/f2/e2/a6f2e22269a05cf07ecc2afeee4db767.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/ba/3f/31ba3f82e1896a3397b777cf59bf44ad.jpg)

I will add one in hauberk and I like the idea of some bringandine combo. The only issue are those bloody rivets lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 10, 2023, 10:28:55 PM
They look great all together!

If you're still thinking about doing more and open to having random suggestions thrown at you, I'd love to see....

- A fully armoured man-at-arms in a tabard, in a walking pose. So armoured legs with covered torso (a tabard as opposed to a coat or jacket). The two like this in the Perry plastic sets are both in stationary poses, I want one advancing!
- A pose suitable for a well-equipped archer. Some combination of brigandine, mail, or jack, with perhaps plackart or livery jacket over the top, with EITHER armoured legs or riding boots, in a suitably realistic shooting posture.


You really should check out the latest book in Tobias Capwell's series which Simon linked earlier. I've just finished reading it, and it's been really eye-opening. Made me understand different forms of European armour more than just the classic 'Milanese' and 'Gothic' styles we all know. It covers European armour in England, particularly Italianate and Western European forms (he makes the point that there is no real evidence of German styled armour in England during this period). These can be roughly categorised as:
- Italian 'heavy cavalry' armour (the familiar Milanese style optimised for mounted combat).
- Italian export armour (more 'budget' armour, roughly Italian in appearance but adapted for Western European and English tastes, so better suited for foot combat and a little bit more fluting).
- The 'Western European Fluted Style' (quite unique and ornate, could be confused with either English or German, but seems to have been more of a French or Burgundian style).
- Flemish (Italian in appearance with smooth clean surfaces, but with differences, notably one-piece breastplates).
Point is, if you take a look in that book, you'll get plenty of inspiration should you want to try out some more fully-armoured figures in the future ; )
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: GulKelan on January 10, 2023, 10:44:01 PM
You really should check out the latest book in Tobias Capwell's series which Simon linked earlier. I've just finished reading it, and it's been really eye-opening. Made me understand different forms of European armour more than just the classic 'Milanese' and 'Gothic' styles we all know. It covers European armour in England, particularly Italianate and Western European forms (he makes the point that there is no real evidence of German styled armour in England during this period). These can be roughly categorised as:
- Italian 'heavy cavalry' armour (the familiar Milanese style optimised for mounted combat).
- Italian export armour (more 'budget' armour, roughly Italian in appearance but adapted for Western European and English tastes, so better suited for foot combat and a little bit more fluting).
- The 'Western European Fluted Style' (quite unique and ornate, could be confused with either English or German, but seems to have been more of a French or Burgundian style).
- Flemish (Italian in appearance with smooth clean surfaces, but with differences, notably one-piece breastplates).
Point is, if you take a look in that book, you'll get plenty of inspiration should you want to try out some more fully-armoured figures in the future ; )

i can only agree. all 3 books but particully the last of them are phenomenal. all the details and "little" things you learn is great value for sculpting.
it also gives a impression on how these people were thinking about armorstyles.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 11, 2023, 04:32:06 AM
All 7 look great. looking forward to seeing the Roman Romanesque figs as well.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Blood on January 12, 2023, 07:47:40 AM
They look fabulous. Looking forward to getting some Perry heads and arms on them in the future!
Have you decided on how you’re going to produce them? :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Tonhel on January 12, 2023, 01:14:08 PM
Beautiful sculpts!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on January 12, 2023, 07:39:28 PM
Fantastic! I'd love to get my hands on these!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: David H on January 13, 2023, 03:37:21 PM
Great idea, and fantastic sculpts!
I'll add my name to the list of people who would like to get their hands on them.  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 25, 2023, 06:26:15 PM
Any new updates?  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 25, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Any new updates?  ;)

Have a look at his instagram, looks like he put up a new one today....
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 25, 2023, 09:21:17 PM
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 28, 2023, 02:49:03 PM
2 more bodies and the 10th and last for this set is coming soon

This is inspired by the French Scots Guard
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/19/80/6e1980932babc630bc467d98ea1c1b7e.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/fd/b7/a9fdb7547cf5c3eb114ab8116f0e2ca2.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/8e/c2/608ec29d0c574f78df39ef7753709868.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/cf/7d/39cf7dfe62d16ce08df304454c34f0a6.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/19/dd/7e19dd53eb0b980fb390d9f1f1745e4e.jpg)

And a plain hauberk wearing poor guy, hoping for some upgrade from the spoils

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/48/13/5a/48135a4fa020fe749db747fd1d5a829e.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/9c/01/a69c01a44d21f09af7266c08a8769782.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/59/66/3d5966208b91e93d11d019ad4246fe2d.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/5d/9f/d25d9f082e0e20ea97b3a3e6bcf45511.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 28, 2023, 03:18:06 PM
Hurrah, more bodies! The one with plate armour and livery coat looks particularly useful.

Do you think you will sell these without the arms and heads first, or wait until they are done as well before releasing them?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: magyar on January 28, 2023, 04:00:35 PM
What a treat! They all look fantastic, I especially like the hauberk lad.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: bigredbat on January 28, 2023, 06:12:40 PM
Those are terrific; I'd certainly buy a bunch of them if they became commercially available.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 28, 2023, 08:12:56 PM
Hurrah, more bodies! The one with plate armour and livery coat looks particularly useful.

Do you think you will sell these without the arms and heads first, or wait until they are done as well before releasing them?

Hey Charlie
Yes those are intended to be sold as they are. I made them specifically to be combined with Perry bits that we all have by the loads. At a later stage they could become full fledged minis offcourse. I’m making the 10th right now.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: GulKelan on January 28, 2023, 08:52:19 PM
really looking forward to get them. will they be casted in metal?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 12:15:57 AM
really looking forward to get them. will they be casted in metal?
I dont know the material yet but they would be casted for sure  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 12:21:50 AM
For our tenth entry, we got Gothic Metal. This concludes this set but I have to admit that Im really addicted into making these so expect some more at some point. Right now the program includes romanesque Burgundians (and a few commissions).

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/57/8a/e2/578ae2f8e8638920805cfb797323aa0a.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/9d/5e/509d5e768666d16ec6f642f75d30380c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/10/08/c310081c4bf9ab0b76bc2c656e9ba612.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/dd/28/5add28485e23cd7912a4b7cc64bff831.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/78/40/3278400631206d5242edfd7dd556feb6.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/c8/0f/c3c80fb850f00a4f51d4d40885c5dfdb.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/88/d7/6c88d793a3490db5cecf3293bb3d89f7.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/4f/1b/a64f1b66d8824194ea19c0189ab0f5a3.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 29, 2023, 12:51:06 AM
Most excellent.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on January 29, 2023, 07:25:40 AM
Fantastic job, I think some of these,dare I say it,eclipse the Perry sculpts! I could certainly do with about sixty if these to complete my Tewksbury forced and maybe another sixty or so for my Italian Wars Army.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 29, 2023, 07:27:44 AM
Right, looking forward to getting a few. And looking forward to seeing the neo-roman mins once they are done as well.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 29, 2023, 09:18:59 AM
Awesome!

One thing about the latest gothic armour though.... his crotch looks a bit unprotected? No tassets or mail skirt? What about a sword belt?

The sculpting is top quality regardless! :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: HappyChappy439 on January 29, 2023, 09:33:05 AM
These are absolutely incredible sculpts! Really impressed with the Gothic Armour there!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 12:16:11 PM
Awesome!

One thing about the latest gothic armour though.... his crotch looks a bit unprotected? No tassets or mail skirt? What about a sword belt?

The sculpting is top quality regardless! :)

That was my reaction too when I saw some museum pieces, but then I saw pics of re enactors having the same kit and I was convinced that it must have been a thing and I kinda wanted these to be odd ones in general.

Maybe I should add a sword belt
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 12:19:50 PM
Fantastic job, I think some of these,dare I say it,eclipse the Perry sculpts! I could certainly do with about sixty if these to complete my Tewksbury forced and maybe another sixty or so for my Italian Wars Army.

That’s a huge compliment, as I’m a real fan of the Perry sculpts, thank you.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 12:20:52 PM
These are absolutely incredible sculpts! Really impressed with the Gothic Armour there!

Thank you
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 12:21:52 PM
Right, looking forward to getting a few. And looking forward to seeing the neo-roman mins once they are done as well.  :D

I got a small commission to complete and they are right next ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 29, 2023, 12:56:26 PM
That was my reaction too when I saw some museum pieces, but then I saw pics of re enactors having the same kit and I was convinced that it must have been a thing and I kinda wanted these to be odd ones in general.

It's true you do often see them 'unprotected crotches'! Not all armour covered 100% of the body, and certain pieces could be left off for practical reasons (or perhaps they were in a hurry to get suited up!) so it'll work just fine as is :)


I got a small commission to complete and they are right next ;)

Ooh, would that also be something 15th century by any chance?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 29, 2023, 01:13:18 PM
It's true you do often see them 'unprotected crotches'! Not all armour covered 100% of the body, and certain pieces could be left off for practical reasons (or perhaps they were in a hurry to get suited up!) so it'll work just fine as is :)


Ooh, would that also be something 15th century by any chance?

15th century indeed ;)

Btw the cool thing with these bodies is that I can have a resin copy and then modify it a bit with green stuff and end up with a variation like extra armor or a surcoat over it, ending up with an other master sculpt for casting
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 29, 2023, 01:16:35 PM
15th century indeed ;)

Oh good.....

Quote
Btw the cool thing with these bodies is that I can have a resin copy and then modify it a bit with green stuff and end up with a variation like extra armor or a surcoat over it, ending up with an other master sculpt for casting

Yes, that's cool!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 30, 2023, 01:37:32 AM
A quick snap shot of all the lads together

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/ce/92/e0ce927e7731f4293ba898d8054a38c6.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/05/9a/09/059a09bb9c2018ef8f1aefdc9168fe7d.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 30, 2023, 06:12:58 AM
I got a small commission to complete and they are right next ;)
Excellent.  :D
And as I said on Instagram, they look pretty badass. 
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: RedRowan on January 30, 2023, 07:04:39 AM
These are looking amazing.

Steve
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on January 30, 2023, 08:18:15 AM
I have no idea really about how minis are produced! What happens next?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 30, 2023, 10:01:51 AM
I have no idea really about how minis are produced! What happens next?

Well it depends by the material. Since plastic is out of the question due to the staggering starting costs, the options are metal or resin. I’m familiar with the resin process so I can talk about that.
First you have to make a silicone mold of the masters. There are two kinds of molds. Two part molds where the mold splits in half and Cut Molds where the mold is one piece and you carefully cut up to the necessary point, in order to release the mini by pulling it out. The pro of cut molds are reduced mold lines. For example in these bodies you only have to cut up to the crotch of the mini, the rest can be pulled out to be free from the mold, thus no upper body mold lines at all.
Each silicone mold gives about 35 reproductions and then it burns out due to the exothermic reaction of the resin, resulting to silicone becoming brittle and losing its non adhesive properties. So it has to be redone.
The molds are filled with polyurethane resin which is in the form of A+B chemicals.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Otto1485 on January 30, 2023, 02:35:21 PM
Quote
Well it depends by the material. Since plastic is out of the question due to the staggering starting costs, the options are metal or resin. I’m familiar with the resin process so I can talk about that.
First you have to make a silicone mould of the masters. There are two kinds of moulds. Two part moulds where the mould splits in half and Cut Moulds where the mould is one piece and you carefully cut up to the necessary point, in order to release the mini by pulling it out. The pro of cut moulds are reduced mould lines. For example in these bodies you only have to cut up to the crotch of the mini, the rest can be pulled out to be free from the mould, thus no upper body mould lines at all.
Each silicone mould gives about 35 reproductions and then it burns out due to the endothermic reaction of the resin, resulting to silicone becoming brittle and losing its non adhesive properties. So it has to be redone.
The moulds are filled with polyurethane resin which is in the form of A+B chemicals.

You can then give those resin models to a (metal) miniature manufacturer who will make a master mould of them, in low temperature silicone and subsequently cast metal "masters", these are then put into a production mould and metal miniatures can be produced which will allow a substantial number to be produced.

ATB John  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 30, 2023, 04:58:52 PM
You can then give those resin models to a (metal) miniature manufacturer who will make a master mould of them, in low temperature silicone and subsequently cast metal "masters", these are then put into a production mould and metal miniatures can be produced which will allow a substantial number to be produced.

ATB John  :)
Well said  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 30, 2023, 06:44:48 PM
Well it depends by the material. Since plastic is out of the question due to the staggering starting costs, the options are metal or resin. I’m familiar with the resin process so I can talk about that.
First you have to make a silicone mold of the masters. There are two kinds of molds. Two part molds where the mold splits in half and Cut Molds where the mold is one piece and you carefully cut up to the necessary point, in order to release the mini by pulling it out. The pro of cut molds are reduced mold lines. For example in these bodies you only have to cut up to the crotch of the mini, the rest can be pulled out to be free from the mold, thus no upper body mold lines at all.
Each silicone mold gives about 35 reproductions and then it burns out due to the exothermic reaction of the resin, resulting to silicone becoming brittle and losing its non adhesive properties. So it has to be redone.
The molds are filled with polyurethane resin which is in the form of A+B chemicals.

Interesting, you should post some step-by-step pics of the process when you do it!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 30, 2023, 08:35:07 PM
Interesting, you should post some step-by-step pics of the process when you do it!
I do have some on other projects on my instagram. I need to set up a camera rig of sorts at some point because usually when Im doing it my hands are full and working against a ticking clock. Its also very easy to make a mess around you if you are not focused. Ask me how I know  lol
But yes its something I would be interested in doing, I do believe into sharing the info. There is not much accessible info about casting and mold making out there, at least focusing on extra small pieces like the ones we are dealing with. Or should I say, there are many fragmented info out there and in the end remains the good old trial and error method.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on January 30, 2023, 11:42:14 PM
What about 3d scanning and then printing?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 31, 2023, 12:52:38 AM
What about 3d scanning and then printing?
actually that requires alot of clean up and possible/probable softening or even loss of detail
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MeinPanzer on January 31, 2023, 10:50:40 AM
Just want to say that these look fantastic, and I'll happily buy some copies once you make them! Very pleased to see the regular old hauberk in there.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Thoronde on January 31, 2023, 12:02:58 PM
I would really love to own these!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Otto1485 on January 31, 2023, 12:58:26 PM
Quote
Quote from: Otto1485 on January 30, 2023, 02:35:21 PM
You can then give those resin models to a (metal) miniature manufacturer who will make a master mould of them, in low temperature silicone and subsequently cast metal "masters", these are then put into a production mould and metal miniatures can be produced which will allow a substantial number to be produced.

ATB John  :)
Well said  :)

Happy to do it for you....

All the best

John  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on February 11, 2023, 05:49:10 PM
This is a small parenthesis. Im posting it here because its thematically related to the set of 10 bodies.
I was commissioned to do 4 bodies of Guardes Eccossais. These are already off to a casting service to be produced in resin for the customer. He kindly allowed me to make them available commercially, so that other people can enjoy them too. From my part I think that its only right to hold these 4 back abit and make them available further in the future, so that he can be the first who has them.

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on February 11, 2023, 06:00:56 PM
Part of the same commission was the conversion of a Perry head in order to represent Arthur de Richemont

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A fury fancy hat was made from Green Stuff and a French Marshal's baton with a tiny fleur de lis  was made with procreate (that was what I had closer at the moment lol). The hand with the baton was made to fit the Perry mounted men at arms, hand socket. The client will glue it to the already prepared plastic body. I just put him together with abit of blue tack for display reasons.

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 11, 2023, 06:22:33 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on February 11, 2023, 06:42:37 PM
Fantastic. I will definitely be wanting to get my hands on those new four bodies when they become available!!!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Maxromek on February 12, 2023, 08:40:24 AM
I have been following this project on Instagram and can't wait for them to be available 😍
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: RedRowan on February 12, 2023, 08:56:35 AM
Some very nice sculpting there!

Steve
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Ronin1978 on February 13, 2023, 04:24:40 PM
beautiful.
Where and when will they be available?  will they be together with the other compatible bodies?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: glenning on February 21, 2023, 06:43:36 PM
Looking great - sign me up for a set later on!  :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on February 21, 2023, 11:00:37 PM
Masterful conversion work!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: bigredbat on February 22, 2023, 01:50:02 PM
Lovely, I'll be getting some of those, too, when available.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: fantasticlegions on February 24, 2023, 04:10:14 PM
I am responsible for commissioning the torso for the Garde Écossaise.  I also plan to use them for Breton Garde Ducale in their natty livery of black, white, and violet.  And because Yannis is so talented and great to work with, I have commissioned additional torsos in kneeling and bending-over poses for crossbowmen, and more advancing torsos wearing livery jackets for greater variety in late 15th century armies, particularly French and Burgundian ordonnance.  I am not sure when these will all be available, but it has rekindled my excitement for this period.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on February 24, 2023, 06:43:15 PM
kneeling and bending over? that will open so many possibilities you are both legends Thank you =)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 24, 2023, 08:59:21 PM
I am responsible for commissioning the torso for the Garde Écossaise.  I also plan to use them for Breton Garde Ducale in their natty livery of black, white, and violet.  And because Yannis is so talented and great to work with, I have commissioned additional torsos in kneeling and bending-over poses for crossbowmen, and more advancing torsos wearing livery jackets for greater variety in late 15th century armies, particularly French and Burgundian ordonnance.  I am not sure when these will all be available, but it has rekindled my excitement for this period.
All of this is good.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on February 27, 2023, 09:03:38 PM
Lets add these 2 boys, so that we can have a dirty dozen  lol

One in bringandine

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One in a short coat
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on February 28, 2023, 07:42:08 AM
Again, they look great. I can see using the short coat guy as a civilian as well.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on February 28, 2023, 06:01:54 PM
Masterful!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on February 28, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
These are outrageously good, there are so many uses for these we will be spoiled  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 02, 2023, 01:27:01 PM
Im in the very happy position to announce that the 12 alternative bodies for Perry War of the Roses minis, will be part of the Steelfist Miniatures line and they will produced in metal. I think that they could not find a better home. Steelfist already has a top quality 15th century(and not only that) range compatible with Perry minis and I think all of us here appreciate Simon's personal modelling work and his expertise on the period.

Im currently producing resin masters to send over to Steelfist. Simon will keep you updated about the production schedule for these.
I have to make clear that the sculpts commissioned by Fantasticlegions are not included in this deal. He was extremely kind to allow his commissioned sculpts to become available, but as I said before that will happen in the near future, as its only fair to give him the time to enjoy them first. When the time comes we will see how these will become available.
I will continue updating this thread with any new entries. I have to say that Im very excited about all this.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Dargonsploof on March 02, 2023, 01:46:21 PM
That will be interesting wasn't expecting that was how they were going to be available hopefully it will not be too long for the casting as they are lovely sculpts
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Atheling on March 02, 2023, 02:37:38 PM
Congrats, to you and to Simon at Steel Fist  8)

I'm looking forward to buying a set or three  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on March 02, 2023, 02:42:08 PM
That is super news Congratulations Captain Harlock. It is funny i had saved some money up for the upcoming Steelfist Swiss and was going to split that to get yours as well when they became available but now they will be in the same place :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Tonhel on March 02, 2023, 03:33:56 PM
Congratulations! That said it was cheaper for us Europeans to get them from Greece than getting them from the UK.   ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on March 02, 2023, 08:47:08 PM
Excellent news. For both the 12 and the Guard.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on March 02, 2023, 10:31:56 PM
You really should be excited! I am too and they are not my sculpts. I have already planned how to use them!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: bigredbat on March 03, 2023, 02:25:13 PM
That's very good news- I'll certainly order some of them!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: painterman on March 03, 2023, 04:14:12 PM
Hello
Just to say - in my capacity as Steel Fist’s owner - how pleased and excited I am to make these in metals.
Yannis is a very talented sculptor and I hope that these help extend the use of the Perry plastics to get new poses etc.
I’ll keep this post updated on casting times - they are next on the list and I’m in the hands of my supplier,
Thanks
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: GulKelan on March 03, 2023, 04:32:58 PM
awesome, cant wait to get my hands on them!  ;D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on March 03, 2023, 07:03:21 PM
How are the Alla Romana/Burgundian armor coming along?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 04, 2023, 11:01:28 AM
How are the Alla Romana/Burgundian armor coming along?

I started working on them but they will take the back seat for a couple of weeks, because I have some commission work to complete first.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on March 04, 2023, 05:47:19 PM
Cool, and understand. Paid work does take priority.  lol
Just seeing if it was still in the works.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 14, 2023, 02:16:47 PM
Ok some long overdue update

First things first, the 12 bodies that will be available from Steel Fist Miniatures are already shipped. Here are some pics of the resin masters I did. I have posted as much of the process as I could (its a quite hands on process with limited time windows due to the materials) on my instagram https://www.instagram.com/talos.miniatures/

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Now whats on the bench....
Well as you already know @Fantasticlegions commisioned more Perry compatible bodies. And when I say more i mean MOAR!!!!!! lol
Its going to be a full dozen of bodies in kneeling, bending and advancing poses, all in livery jackets.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/1b/ee/841bee4665c5540b73b66bebca15be2a.jpg)

I think that the way things go, it will be possible to field units with all unique mini designs in them  ;D

Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on March 14, 2023, 06:36:41 PM
Oh my, it keeps getting better!

So excited to see these produced by Steel Fist, and REALLY keen to see what you do with this new batch.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on March 15, 2023, 04:26:53 AM
Again love them and looking forward to seeing more of your work.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: fantasticlegions on March 15, 2023, 04:53:48 PM
Oh my, it keeps getting better!

So excited to see these produced by Steel Fist, and REALLY keen to see what you do with this new batch.

I thought you would like them since we have the same projects.  No self-respecting Frenchman would not wear a snazzy livery jacket with the Cross of St. Denis.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on March 20, 2023, 01:46:33 PM
I'm really looking forward to getting these bodies! Variety is the spice of life and these look very spicey! Did I miss the timeline for their release?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: HappyChappy439 on March 20, 2023, 07:21:04 PM
Oh! These are looking incredible, can't wait for the full release!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 05:33:03 PM
The dirty dozen commissioned by @Fantasticlegions is done and soon will be off to the casting service.
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 05:33:35 PM

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on March 30, 2023, 05:34:14 PM
Again well done!  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 05:40:04 PM
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 05:43:09 PM
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 05:45:58 PM
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Dargonsploof on March 30, 2023, 06:24:43 PM
Your sculpts look fantastic.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 06:26:22 PM
Your sculpts look fantastic.
Thank you
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 30, 2023, 06:26:50 PM
Again well done!  ;)
Thank you
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on March 31, 2023, 07:54:38 PM
Excellent stuff, looking forward to hopefully getting my hands on these after the Steel Fist ones!!!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on April 07, 2023, 06:05:09 PM
Cannot beleive these, the kneeling ones are a dream come true and opens so many possibilities,  did not imagine anyone would ever create them, and make them so damned good,  Thank you Captain Harlock =)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on April 08, 2023, 02:26:39 PM
Cannot beleive these, the kneeling ones are a dream come true and opens so many possibilities,  did not imagine anyone would ever create them, and make them so damned good,  Thank you Captain Harlcok =)
Thank you for your kind words
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Ronin1978 on April 12, 2023, 10:04:32 AM
hello beautiful poses.
  But will these also be available in the steel fist miniatures range or will they have to be ordered in other ways?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Black Burt on April 14, 2023, 03:40:00 PM
When will these be available from Steelfist miniatures?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: painterman on April 14, 2023, 08:11:21 PM
Hello
Just to update on the Steel Fist castings.
The sculpts have been at the mouldmakers for a short while now - I am in their hands on when these get done.
I will have a good amount of castings from the master mould, which I'll add to the website as soon as I have them.
I'm hoping that this could be in the next week and I'll pop an update on here as soon as they are in the online shop.
many thanks
Simon.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Atheling on April 15, 2023, 09:03:07 AM
Hello
Just to update on the Steel Fist castings.
The sculpts have been at the mouldmakers for a short while now - I am in their hands on when these get done.
I will have a good amount of castings from the master mould, which I'll add to the website as soon as I have them.
I'm hoping that this could be in the next week and I'll pop an update on here as soon as they are in the online shop.
many thanks
Simon.

Great news Simon.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on April 28, 2023, 09:23:17 PM
Look what the cat dragged in! The first resin samples from the 12 bodies commissioned by Fantasticlegions, are in my hands.

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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/c4/5b/22c45b9107a2b2f2a2faac577b74cb68.jpg)

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on April 28, 2023, 09:28:39 PM
Very nice.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on April 29, 2023, 03:19:25 AM
WOOHOO! I can hardly wait!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on April 29, 2023, 06:18:42 PM
Hurrah!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: painterman on May 08, 2023, 01:05:26 PM
Hello
These are (finally) available as metals in the Steel Fist Miniatures shop.
28mm packs of 6 dollies.
LM07 - Men at Arms
LM 08 - Retainers
Thanks to Captain Harlock for the wonderful sculpts and FantasticLegions for his generous agreement to get them into metal moulds.
Simon.
https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product-category/later-medieval-1460-1490/
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on May 08, 2023, 02:25:25 PM
Very cool! I will need to send out a order soon.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on May 08, 2023, 06:54:01 PM
Very cool! I will need to send out a order soon.

Might be too late - they've sold out already!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on May 08, 2023, 06:55:06 PM
Well I am broke some I will have to wait tell the end of the month anyways.  ::)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: painterman on May 08, 2023, 06:59:10 PM
well, thanks for the early purchases - I've underestimated interest.
I will start the process for new production moulds and stock - but realistically looking at a couple of weeks.
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on May 08, 2023, 08:26:58 PM
Well it looks like they sold like hot cakes, I’m really pleased to see them being so very welcomed  :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Wiegraf on May 09, 2023, 09:38:59 PM
I hope many more are made. I barely read they were a thing and they were gone !
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on May 10, 2023, 12:53:21 AM
Well it looks like they sold like hot cakes, I’m really pleased to see them being so very welcomed  :-*
Congratulations on the successful sculpts.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on May 10, 2023, 04:31:38 PM
Congratulations on the successful sculpts.  :D
Thank you!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: HappyChappy439 on May 10, 2023, 04:45:00 PM
Ah dang, I missed the original run, I'll definitely have to pick up a few when they're restocked!

Congratulations on the success!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on May 12, 2023, 07:12:34 PM
Mine arrived from Steel Fist today - I'm already busy cutting and gluing various small plastic pieces to them!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on May 14, 2023, 08:49:15 PM
Here we go...

(https://i.imgur.com/iImfLXS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/R8sYlnl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UCHqZY0.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Atheling on May 14, 2023, 09:27:00 PM
They seem to work exceptionally well, at least as good as the Perry's bodies work  8)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on May 14, 2023, 10:44:23 PM
Again well done.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 09, 2023, 01:38:04 PM
Im happy to announce that more of my Perry compatible bodies will be available in metal by Steel Fist miniatures.
We are talking about the 6 bending/kneeling poses of the 12 bodies bodies commissioned by FantasticLegions.
The masters are already on their way to their new home.
Im sure that Simon (Painterman) will be able to give you more details on their production time schedule.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/93/33/b5/9333b5094a6ff00cde8a7bc6a83b67cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: GulKelan on June 09, 2023, 04:10:03 PM
they look fantastic. cant wait to paint them! :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on June 09, 2023, 04:53:25 PM
Excellent news, I can see those three standing poses in particular being very useful for me.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on June 10, 2023, 02:37:01 AM
Really nice.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: poulppy on June 13, 2023, 08:11:22 AM
It's a so great IDEA !
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 14, 2023, 11:54:18 PM
It's a so great IDEA !

Thanks
I have some Burgundians for the next set btw  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on June 15, 2023, 02:18:44 AM
Thanks
I have some Burgundians for the next set btw  ;)
Sweet! Looking forward to those guys.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Hupp n at em on June 16, 2023, 08:54:39 PM
They're plum sold out!  I will have to grab some once they're back in.   :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 29, 2023, 11:41:53 AM
New commission of 6 Perry compatible minis, and this time they grew arms too. 2 armoured front rankers and 4 lightly armoured second rankers all with pole arms.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/26/61/ff2661c02e72f7ef921a536083c1d00c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/68/3c/d8683c600f534d54437658d7778d70b0.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on June 29, 2023, 03:57:13 PM
Oh nice! Are we looking at armored Swiss? Burgundian? Scots? Will they be on steelfist? 😁
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: painterman on July 02, 2023, 09:27:50 PM
Oooo, Yannis
They look great poses and these will be great - are they open-handed to be used for both pikes and halbards?
All the best,
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 05, 2023, 02:11:00 PM
Oooo, Yannis
They look great poses and these will be great - are they open-handed to be used for both pikes and halbards?
All the best,
Simon

Thanks Simon. Yes they will be open handed in order to receive Perry spare weapons  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on July 06, 2023, 11:48:01 AM
Well they do look promising!!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:30:29 PM
This is the basic volumes stage. It ensures that there wont be any anatomical hiccups showing up in the later stages. The minis start their life naked and in  sense they are slowly dressed up.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/b4/55/81b45503b124a8157f83aa9321d80a66.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/f6/e7/5ff6e74f82a9e5b8c978d6f3c277ab87.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:33:12 PM
So here we go. Mini #1 of the 4 second rankers.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/34/cd/1634cd643656508a980e162f337af0da.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/a5/80/0da580fc27f28eb55607c3f7247cebfd.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/a8/e3/73a8e31cb6806d214cd26b0983d093cd.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/54/d5/e454d5a8be284f6647dc00d7a8a74526.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/05/5b/74055bde466ef1a8e6009a7162ef6a77.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:35:59 PM
Mini #2
With armored legs and boots
 
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/6f/a1/986fa11b4ef0f7d08de30fa3446cdc57.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/46/fa/1e46fa871a324c76a29404e572e49ee5.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/58/8d/de588dd88c4d900449808e0ed30f2871.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/e7/41/2de74160f4e566cde7f7a1cf7e92c78b.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/fb/a9/ebfba9e973be9f914b857dec8fb9f883.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:40:41 PM
Mini # 3 in a padded jacket

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/0b/75/040b751730e6011ae6652a1b5ab0cb42.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/21/0e/6c210eee17d3b46d19eb77a9da47ef04.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/67/93/2d6793620e70fc3caa7e9bb35b20b919.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/12/d3/5b12d321219b704c330e03990d2b1752.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/1b/5f/011b5fcb58a5aa20c68aa7d0ba8dcf4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:43:55 PM
Mini#4
The only one without a livery, wearing a padded jacket

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/b5/0c/dfb50c0af620eed3fcaf55be48a7ddf9.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/63/e1/18/63e11844cff4f428fe856607c6822d4f.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/58/29/6f58297eb2c6458e6aae461c80fd25a4.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ec/78/cc/ec78ccbf1c0300ec81c846f1d9237eac.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/8e/9a/c38e9ae9d1acb4e6646c6dae19ae067e.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:49:19 PM
mini #5 one of the two heavier armed front rankers (the chainmail sleeves were later revisid to not be tucked in the arm plate), in high boots

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/f0/c5/6df0c5acc71eb2793ac078c013e91552.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/d4/8a/1fd48a94d517445de6b5eb12aa037661.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/f3/85/32f385a5d245397e04387d07b3aafda4.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/8b/4a/5f8b4a9ba0eccbfbd428ebd4e7471f3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 07:51:20 PM
Mini#6 the second front ranker and more heavily armed of the team.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/86/9f/d3/869fd38b63d4b21a0374abd42c0c6dc0.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/38/e1/b338e14db698fc271e2a291be0a61f55.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/86/8a/df868ac8e88889e22c3e5f78cf7c7d4b.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on July 20, 2023, 08:44:36 PM
Very neat.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 20, 2023, 10:21:07 PM
Very neat.  :D

 :)
Thank you
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Wilgut Spleens on July 21, 2023, 05:48:02 PM
Oh he is particularly nice
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 21, 2023, 06:51:18 PM
Oh he is particularly nice
Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 21, 2023, 06:55:39 PM
Im going to post the finalized versions with complete belts, straps, pouches and daggers. I added a few Perry heads to make them look more alive, and a glaive (I know its abit on the big side, but it will serve for now)


Mini#1

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/2c/39/bc2c3951d73615e82efdbb93c4c91fc6.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/38/07/51/38075165f17afd2be3f2ce58ff4906a1.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/bc/e7/40bce7c4e2bb6032ddb9da22d7e0dcbe.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/25/88/2225887b4fc6ea4acc3a6f082b665a55.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/0b/e5/fe0be5fdfa4a8818f22e58d0b6b2876d.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on July 21, 2023, 11:45:03 PM
That glaive is huge!  :o
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 22, 2023, 01:35:38 AM
That glaive is huge!  :o

'' I see your glaive is as big as mine''  lol lol

Im going to grind it down abit  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on July 23, 2023, 12:08:51 AM
"I am your Fathers, Brothers, Nephews, Cousins former Roommate!"
"What's that make us?"
"Absolutely Nothing!"

Well it's almost promotional for GW products.  lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 23, 2023, 04:31:37 PM
"I am your Fathers, Brothers, Nephews, Cousins former Roommate!"
"What's that make us?"
"Absolutely Nothing!"

Well it's almost promotional for GW products.  lol

 lol lol lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 26, 2023, 10:00:17 PM
Here we go for the final versions. First a snapshot of weapons and accessories. These are done in plasticard and green stuff. Im including some pics of the process for anyone who is interested. The pole arm shafts are optimized to fit the Perry miniatures and similar ranges.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/d7/f7/dfd7f72cedf21ee935dc3102c01c6a1d.jpg)

Basically I take a piece of plasticard, rough out the scabbard shape (the same way you can do a blade), then shape away the diamond section with a blade and finalize with a high grit sanding sponge. Then add the fittings with greenstuff.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f0/d4/ba/f0d4bac165d974a3c4118fac59a339a0.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/78/a9/ea78a9b06e86c73edd168ee4cab3e3af.jpg)

my diy holder that helps working on all weapons at once
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/2f/3d/a92f3d5a8da3fb9f9f66d5f122f32815.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 26, 2023, 10:09:38 PM
mini#1
In a padded jacket and livery
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/ed/33/28ed336808de595cfdf7fe782ee3e42c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/05/1f/ae/051fae1ec5bf5c6572b8edac30ae574a.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9b/ba/eb/9bbaeb7ee0fde57230965ed83e6bbb01.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/38/07/1f/38071f71bb01398a925fe0fe434f9e52.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/3b/d2/6e3bd2ca54cb8d16a6f8f5fd7285cc89.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/38/aa/e938aa6a60227a1230a2ba2a08b2ad53.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/24/12/4e2412008ee3a284aca4c1240fe5a99a.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 26, 2023, 11:46:24 PM
miniature #2
A better armed ranker
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/11/f8/3b11f81f26facecda76047a156857293.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/e1/ed/9ce1edaad73fa97c04efb58a03fd5c70.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/11/31/bb1131ac8d56b5d005bbd80b07890585.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/0f/48/9c0f487887ddeff58e72f5d9a97dd2fe.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1a/40/c1/1a40c17291ab34a71f6a0975e3b02641.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c0/f0/2c/c0f02c2881f91624430526634b97ea81.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/e8/c5/2ee8c5568ee48c785498569845c08bb4.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 26, 2023, 11:49:57 PM
#3 with a killer bill

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/cf/22/98cf22b769a720cce8e643e46e60e86c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/d2/16/a9d216f0b6898c741a799c272c232416.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/73/70/fa7370664c722b053635833ea608973b.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/88/73/75/8873753e2512e1b06a08fcb7d7c5a3e1.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/c6/7c/7cc67c68e16d0bd8694f0b4c2c3efcc3.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/1b/9d/681b9d9d408c49a611c15bc269e40f21.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a4/9a/42/a49a42a0ffd69ff88f32eda8bb9da6e6.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 26, 2023, 11:57:08 PM
mini #4 the only one without livery of this batch

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/60/99/0e6099fdd2c7cba036f075a3dde07f52.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/06/a8/c906a891ab3624ac2ae1a73b6891be8b.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/9d/ac/e59dac3d8c341b1ecf4188ed87fb6093.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/30/d6/5630d670f311e44464a3d9ee6ed8d0a5.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/9b/20/109b2040da25a391ed015c7467eea6a2.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/15/72/b21572dbd0e784f10433d153103bc462.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/3e/74/3c3e74e91a84277d51183acf939ae7f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 27, 2023, 12:12:53 AM
Mini # 5 one of the two heavier armored and my personal favorite if I may say so

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/66/49/e86649cf9d969860e5167b7e836b7e42.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/5c/78/bd5c78b015d4e2f47275edbd682c1f65.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/76/ca/23/76ca2346ab8fef1b76814762f16ce6e5.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/47/59/4447599d8056bc373c659295264481ad.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/89/68/42/8968423f0bb8ca68c3a808c865770b7c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/3b/83/023b83d33464748f1fe960703268c764.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/dc/5c/a2dc5cd48e383043c47bdb3c33b4f83e.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 27, 2023, 12:19:47 AM
Mini #6 the heavier armored ranker

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/7f/cb/2f7fcb9b8e987555d7367e771084c71d.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/2a/28/a32a282fe560e8c385a6bd4b58ad2ba7.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/2c/23/102c23db80b19db56d78f7dca8e6c79a.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/48/0d/bd480ddce055441fe43681560e779e03.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/bd/c7/60bdc768c317948bcb62c43c54afef18.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/d5/53/13d55366b4a23ef98186a07f0720e185.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/e2/f4/30e2f4fd0def67aa64946d4bf3be69a1.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on July 27, 2023, 11:55:13 AM
Absolutely blown away by these Captain Harlock, these will transform all our medeival armies  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 27, 2023, 02:37:11 PM
Absolutely blown away by these Captain Harlock, these will transform all our medeival armies  :)

Thank you very much. I really enjoy doing them.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on July 28, 2023, 01:25:33 AM
Gorgeous dollies! I just wish they were more available,
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 28, 2023, 01:44:23 AM
Gorgeous dollies! I just wish they were more available,

oh there will be  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: MaleGriffin on July 28, 2023, 02:09:20 PM
oh there will be  :D

That is GREAT news! Every time I've been to the site, they were out of stock!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Charlie_ on July 28, 2023, 03:25:19 PM
That is GREAT news! Every time I've been to the site, they were out of stock!

If you mean the dollies sold by Steel Fist, it looks like they are in stock right now.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 09, 2023, 06:38:12 PM
3 more rankers came to be added to the previous 6

mini #7

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/3f/50/e83f50d0f0cd6b5916ea47bfa3e59ea5.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/5f/04/b35f04befa67016c299969e16e92979e.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/92/cc/fa92cce7c7a61241360f8e78508a7c1e.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/2a/3b/132a3b6c68568eb2be17ae55e87aabb7.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cc/41/e7/cc41e7c383854d3d6ee23ec02437a5b7.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/45/22/d745228515c801347ad7eecff9438ec1.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/17/68/dc1768690a204a45c25313c2afb9118b.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 09, 2023, 06:43:33 PM
mini#8

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/b1/32/feb132cc9bd3fa673248f0a9c7e29450.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/3e/6f/c93e6fd98ca73c6e9472587e182c1110.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/63/5f/42635ff04d482f99456661af2a3438ea.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/2e/60/802e608885745326bfab750ab62828bf.jpg)
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 09, 2023, 06:48:41 PM
mini#9
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on August 09, 2023, 08:58:17 PM
Nice!  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 10, 2023, 12:02:51 AM
Nice!  :D

Thank you!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Jack Jones on August 12, 2023, 11:23:44 AM
@ Captain Harlock

I have just stumbled over this thread. These are fantastic sculpts. I have seen the 12 dollies on the Steel Fist Miniatures site, and already figured they were a good answer for the spare arms etc in the PM plastic sets. These last complete figures will be fabulous additions too.

When are they likely to be available to buy?

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 12, 2023, 07:22:53 PM
@ Captain Harlock

I have just stumbled over this thread. These are fantastic sculpts. I have seen the 12 dollies on the Steel Fist Miniatures site, and already figured they were a good answer for the spare arms etc in the PM plastic sets. These last complete figures will be fabulous additions too.

When are they likely to be available to buy?

Cheers
JJ

Thank you for your kind words.
These minis are in the casting service waiting to be cast. August is vacations month in Greece, so hopefully these will be done by the first days of September plus the delivery time.
This is a commission but I do hold the commercial/trade rights ( I offer two price ranges, with or without the trade rights). They will be available either through me or a company that might opt to buy them and produce them, but as a courtesy to the client who commissioned them that will take at least some months, in order for him to be the first who enjoys them. I think that’s reasonable.
Stay tuned here and optionally at my instagram https://www.instagram.com/talos.miniatures/
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Jack Jones on August 12, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
Cool! Exciting stuff too! I am not in a hurry … still in deep with my Victorian colonial project, but planning a medieval adventure for next year.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 20, 2023, 10:57:10 PM
The sallet bar is opening.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on August 20, 2023, 10:59:58 PM
Glorious  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Freddy on August 21, 2023, 09:33:46 PM
Great sculpts!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 22, 2023, 12:36:12 PM
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 06, 2023, 12:37:35 AM
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on September 06, 2023, 12:46:06 AM
Happy with how the helmets turned out.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 06, 2023, 08:04:03 AM
Happy with how the helmets turned out.  :D

Im happy that you are happy  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 08, 2023, 02:42:09 PM
A new set of 6 bodies, some will have abit of Iberian flavor (like the fabric skirts with the armour)

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Jack Jones on September 09, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
All of these are fabulous.

@Captain Harlock: where in Europe would the Iberian style have been worn?

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 09, 2023, 12:52:43 PM
All of these are fabulous.

@Captain Harlock: where in Europe would the Iberian style have been worn?

Cheers
JJ
Thank you
From what I gather, the Spanish and Portuguese forces and possibly there would be appearances in the Italian wars
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: commissarmoody on September 09, 2023, 05:43:59 PM
All of these are fabulous.

@Captain Harlock: where in Europe would the Iberian style have been worn?

Cheers
JJ
As he said, and also in North Africa, Greece, Grenada, Mediterranean and any place that they were fighting against the Ottomans.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Zenmaster on September 09, 2023, 11:19:25 PM
I requested these. I'm not 100% certain that men at arms on the Iberian peninsula fought in this manner, with a base. Armors in Spain are usually displayed in this way in museums. I liked the aesthetic and wanted it reproduced in miniature. They are turning out really well. I requested a set of 6 bodies, and 7 heads. I'll probably request a few more because I want to go ahead and get all of the body types, and heads, that I've been looking for. Most of the heads I requested are suitable for the 15th century, a few are more for use with landsknechts: bellowed sallets and other types.

Isaias
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: commissarmoody on September 09, 2023, 11:58:54 PM
Looking forward to seeing the other 4 in the set.  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on September 11, 2023, 11:10:37 AM
Quite lovely  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: MaleGriffin on September 12, 2023, 02:55:05 PM
More masterful sculpting! I spent years in a reenactment group and I had a helmet like these!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: commissarmoody on September 12, 2023, 03:09:08 PM
Glade you like em  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 12, 2023, 10:58:59 PM
Quite lovely  :-* :-* :-*

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 12, 2023, 10:59:39 PM
More masterful sculpting! I spent years in a reenactment group and I had a helmet like these!

Well that’s the best compliment I could get! Thank you!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Jack Jones on September 16, 2023, 05:27:24 PM
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Quick question: will the weapons be available as a separate pack, or only with the figures?

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on September 16, 2023, 05:28:30 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: ulverston on September 18, 2023, 08:31:59 PM
Your work is incredible, you are truly a master. Other periods are crying out for this as well. Just a thought... I will wait patiently for you to produce some bodies for the mountain of dark age limbs and heads I have acquired.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: jcspqr on September 18, 2023, 11:40:18 PM
Sorry if I missed it, but did you post up where these will be availabel for purchase, assuming they will be for sale?

Jim
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (Updated)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 18, 2023, 11:59:48 PM
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Quick question: will the weapons be available as a separate pack, or only with the figures?

Cheers
JJ

To be honest it didn’t cross my mind until you mentioned it. If there is a demand that justifies the production costs it is possible. I will soon post the first resin samples. My caster inserts thin steel wire into the pole arm shafts and in that way they are basically extremely resilient combining the detail of resin and the strength of metal. That also means that they are more costly to produce than any white metal weapon’s pack.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 19, 2023, 12:06:13 AM
Sorry if I missed it, but did you post up where these will be availabel for purchase, assuming they will be for sale?

Jim

Presently they are all commissioned work at various stages of production for the customers. I do hold the trade rights though, so they will be made available either by me or established miniature companies interested to include them into their collection.

The last of 9 with pole arms and the set of the sallet helmets are currently being cast.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 19, 2023, 12:18:43 AM
Your work is incredible, you are truly a master. Other periods are crying out for this as well. Just a thought... I will wait patiently for you to produce some bodies for the mountain of dark age limbs and heads I have acquired.

Thank you for your kind words. That could actually happen if there is interest.
This whole venture is basically a happy accident. I started it because I wanted to use my heaps of spare Perry arms and head bits. Initially I thought to cast some Perry bodies at home, but frankly it didn’t sit right with me morally, plus the fact that they would be more of the same. I never expected that they would be so popular.
I really enjoy doing them and the people who commissioned more, each have different ideas
/directions they want to explore and this keeps it very interesting for me.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on September 19, 2023, 01:55:24 AM
@ Captain Harlock

I would definitely be interested in the resin / wire weapons set. Greater robustness is an excellent idea.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Charlie_ on September 20, 2023, 05:32:19 PM
Oh my they certainly look good!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 20, 2023, 06:47:23 PM
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on September 20, 2023, 07:35:52 PM
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'd really love to see some Early Tudor sleaves as sets of arms (to fit Stuart's Steel fist dollies)..... do you think this is a possibility one day (soon)  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Charlie_ on September 20, 2023, 07:41:26 PM
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'd really love to see some Early Tudor sleaves as sets of arms (to fit Stuart's Steel fist dollies)..... do you think this is a possibility one day (soon)  ??? ??? ???

That's a really good idea actually.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 20, 2023, 08:29:12 PM
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'd really love to see some Early Tudor sleaves as sets of arms (to fit Stuart's Steel fist dollies)..... do you think this is a possibility one day (soon)  ??? ??? ???

To be honest, it would not be a priority, right now. I don’t have any of these Dollies cause I haven’t start any Tudor project yet. If a commission took me there, like the furnace sallets, which I ended up enjoying tremendously, maybe, but I seriously can not promise anything now cause I don’t want to disappoint anyone.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 20, 2023, 08:48:35 PM
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 03:09:42 AM
The new set of 6 with a few revisions. #1

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 12:55:05 PM
#2

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 02:01:15 PM
#3

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 02:09:10 PM
#4

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: commissarmoody on September 21, 2023, 06:17:39 PM
They have come along nicely
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 06:54:33 PM
They have come along nicely

Thank you
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 07:03:46 PM
#5
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: commissarmoody on September 21, 2023, 08:22:07 PM
I'm going to have to pick up at least one set of them  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 21, 2023, 08:50:36 PM
#6

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Tonhel on September 22, 2023, 06:07:37 AM
Wonderfull sculpts! :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on September 22, 2023, 07:52:04 AM
Fantastic weapons and figures.

Excellent!

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: bigredbat on September 22, 2023, 11:38:22 AM
Those are fabulous! Really like the quilted one.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 22, 2023, 09:44:04 PM
Thank you guys
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: vodkafan on September 22, 2023, 09:44:45 PM
Captain Harlock! :o  I remember your first posts this just started off as an idea not to waste the spare arms in the Perry sets and now look what magic you are creating. Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 25, 2023, 06:37:52 PM
Captain Harlock! :o  I remember your first posts this just started off as an idea not to waste the spare arms in the Perry sets and now look what magic you are creating. Wonderful stuff.

Thank you so much for your kind words!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: glenning on October 19, 2023, 06:14:19 PM
Great stuff all around! Have you been thinking about doing a set with open and closed Mid/late 1400's sallet helmets? IMO that would fill a void in the market!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 23, 2023, 12:55:55 AM
Great stuff all around! Have you been thinking about doing a set with open and closed Mid/late 1400's sallet helmets? IMO that would fill a void in the market!

Thank you!
You know what? That might be a good idea!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: glenning on October 23, 2023, 06:05:54 PM
NP - I'd buy a set or two!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 24, 2023, 11:19:42 AM
Resin samples from the late 15th century sallets

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No cleaning at all, thats how they got out of the mold.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 24, 2023, 12:35:14 PM
These are the new heads for now (there will be a couple more added in that commission)

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: GulKelan on October 24, 2023, 01:00:57 PM
wow they look amazing and super clean.
the ones with the hair falling out at the side is my absolute favorite.
are we able to buy them or is it comission only?
cant wait to get my hands on these!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: commissarmoody on October 24, 2023, 02:38:14 PM
Resin samples from the late 15th century sallets

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No cleaning at all, thats how they got out of the mold.
They are looking quite good. 😁
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 27, 2023, 10:41:51 PM
A final presentation of all the 15 new bodies divided in sets of 5 according to their armors + the 12 new heads.
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Im going to make a version of the first two from the left in plate armor, where I will replace the skirts with mail.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on November 28, 2023, 02:39:23 AM
Impressive work.  You seem to belt these out quite quickly despite all the detail. :o
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on November 28, 2023, 06:58:34 AM
Fantastic  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: MaleGriffin on November 28, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
Fantastic sculpting! I wish these were in a plastic set like the Perrys! I know I would buy multiple boxes!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Tonhel on December 03, 2023, 12:09:28 PM
Amazing work! :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 07, 2023, 08:40:56 PM
Impressive work.  You seem to belt these out quite quickly despite all the detail. :o

I’m gaining XP  :D
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 07, 2023, 08:41:28 PM
Fantastic  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Thank you
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 07, 2023, 08:43:03 PM
Fantastic sculpting! I wish these were in a plastic set like the Perrys! I know I would buy multiple boxes!

Plastic means insane molding costs unfortunately  :'(
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 07, 2023, 08:43:28 PM
Amazing work! :-*

Thank you so much
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on December 15, 2023, 09:17:48 AM
I received my dollies yesterday (LM08 and LM09). They are fabulous miniatures, and I am really looking forward to modelling and painting them – finally getting my Wars of the Roses project underway.

Best wishes for the season to all.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on December 15, 2023, 09:43:54 AM
Please forgive my confusion, but for the sake of clarity ion my poor head, the dollies Jack Jones referred to are the same that are being sold by Steel Fist, yeah?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on December 15, 2023, 11:52:54 AM
Please forgive my confusion, but for the sake of clarity ion my poor head, the dollies Jack Jones referred to are the same that are being sold by Steel Fist, yeah?

They are:

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm08-retainers-dollies/ (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm08-retainers-dollies/)

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm09-late-medieval-dollies-retainers-kneeling-and-crouching/

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on December 16, 2023, 08:13:17 AM
They are:

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm08-retainers-dollies/ (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm08-retainers-dollies/)

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm09-late-medieval-dollies-retainers-kneeling-and-crouching/

Cheers
JJ

Thanks.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Seditiosus on December 21, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
wow. these are all amazing!

was the question answered, if the latest head variants will be on sale somewhere?

and does anyone know a retailer from steelfist miniatures on the continent? I find % to calculate always very offputting, especially when I don't know how much customs and taxes will add later on.

great work!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: painterman on December 21, 2023, 07:14:21 PM
Hi Seditiosus,
I run Steel Fist Miniatures, and can confirm that I've purchased for production in metals - 15 bodies and the sets of both 15th and 16th century helms/heads - from Yannis.
They'll be sent to my casters in the New Year, so should be available in late January (I hope).
I'm a one-man-band, doing it in my spare time - so it's just the website I'm afraid - no retailers.
I have a lot of non-UK customers and so I assume that the import taxes many not be too prohibitive - but that may depend on where you live?
cheers
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on December 22, 2023, 05:07:40 AM
That’s excellent news, Simon.

I look forward to the helms in particular (I have the late medieval kneeling and retinue dollies already).

Merry Christmas

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on December 22, 2023, 08:36:40 AM
That’s excellent news, Simon.

Indeed! Fantastic news!  8)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on December 27, 2023, 08:53:41 PM
Got my first batch of retainers  just before Christmas( thanks  Simon). Now to upset everyone lol the great thing for me is that they not only match Perry's but also match Warlord Plastic Landsknechts  and Wargames Atlantic Spanish.So in the new year there will be some dodgy characters for the Von Trinkenessen Chronicles  a mix of old and new - servants defending the Manor House ,  peasants or poor rural troops and especially those with the long boots - Dismounted light cavalry. So win Win.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Seditiosus on January 15, 2024, 05:40:03 PM
Hi Seditiosus,
I run Steel Fist Miniatures, and can confirm that I've purchased for production in metals - 15 bodies and the sets of both 15th and 16th century helms/heads - from Yannis.
They'll be sent to my casters in the New Year, so should be available in late January (I hope).
I'm a one-man-band, doing it in my spare time - so it's just the website I'm afraid - no retailers.
I have a lot of non-UK customers and so I assume that the import taxes many not be too prohibitive - but that may depend on where you live?
cheers
Simon

cheers, thanks for the reply (sorry for highjacking this thread). good to hear, that they will be available at some point. I have to say, that is not so much the monetary problem but rather the prospect of it that makes me not want to deal with imports. I simply don't have the time to (potentially) show up at a customs office during my day.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 16, 2024, 01:25:11 PM
I realized that I had not post the latest additions in the pole armed rankers. These ones are a mix of heavier and lighter armor, sporting Perry heads except from the third one that has one of my own heads on.

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On further news, as Simon said already, Im very happy to announce that the latest 15 bodies and heads will be from now on part of the Steel Fist collection.  :)

Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: commissarmoody on January 16, 2024, 03:18:13 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on January 16, 2024, 03:49:50 PM
Fab stuff  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Charlie_ on January 16, 2024, 05:56:13 PM
I should probably add too, to those that missed it, that the previous 9 polearm troops were commissioned by me, as are the last three that Yannis posted.

Here they are as assembled by me with Perry plastic heads.

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And here's my blog post about them - https://fullharness.blogspot.com/2023/11/i-commissioned-some-miniatures.html
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on January 17, 2024, 01:48:31 PM
On further news, as Simon said already, Im very happy to announce that the latest 15 bodies and heads will be from now on part of the Steel Fist collection.  :)

I am almost beside myself with excitement! (How old am I? 🙄 😬 )

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 17, 2024, 01:53:29 PM
I am almost beside myself with excitement! (How old am I? 🙄 😬 )

Cheers
JJ

 lol
Thank you!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: painterman on January 18, 2024, 09:08:53 PM
I (as Steel Fist Minis) am hoping to have stock to offer for sale in next 2 weeks - I've had the master mould castings this week and the mouldmaker has really done a fine job on getting all the fine details in Yannis's sculpts.
I'll drop a post here, when theu're ready.
Regards
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on January 19, 2024, 01:16:39 PM
That was faster than I expected, really cool news!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on January 19, 2024, 02:16:18 PM
Blimey! Christmas comes early! 😁
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Ronin1978 on February 01, 2024, 09:25:14 AM
Greetings.  incredible work Yannis really a great evolution of poses and details, very good.  Sorry for the slowness Simon, but will these also be distributed by Steelfist?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: painterman on February 01, 2024, 11:49:52 PM
Hello
Yes, they are all ready to be released as metals in February- I’ll post a note on here when they are
Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on February 02, 2024, 12:07:18 AM
Hello
Yes, they are all ready to be released as metals in February- I’ll post a note on here when they are
Cheers
Simon

Fab  8). It's great that you Late Med. catalogue is filling up with goodies Simon  8)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on February 02, 2024, 08:36:45 AM
Fab  8). It's great that you Late Med. catalogue is filling up with goodies Simon  8)

What Atheling said! 😋
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Ronin1978 on February 02, 2024, 10:52:51 AM
Great!!  I've already got the Swiss and the other alternative bodies released so far, I can't wait to get these too.  congratulations to everyone.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: anevilgiraffe on March 06, 2024, 11:28:48 AM
Got my first batch of retainers  just before Christmas( thanks  Simon). Now to upset everyone lol the great thing for me is that they not only match Perry's but also match Warlord Plastic Landsknechts  and Wargames Atlantic Spanish.So in the new year there will be some dodgy characters for the Von Trinkenessen Chronicles  a mix of old and new - servants defending the Manor House ,  peasants or poor rural troops and especially those with the long boots - Dismounted light cavalry. So win Win.

when you say Wargames Atlantic Spanish, do you mean the Conquistadors?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 06, 2024, 01:11:15 PM
I got mine! 😋

Brief review on my new blog.

Cheers
JJ

https://bloodymeadowsofengland.blogspot.com (https://bloodymeadowsofengland.blogspot.com)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Charlie_ on March 06, 2024, 01:36:49 PM
Nice blog, I'll add it to my reading list!

The plastic conversion you've got on the comparison pic looks very interesting, I he designed to be manhandling artillery or something similar?

Interesting that you say the metal casts are if anything slightly shorter than Perry - based on the ones I've got I'd say the opposite!
The first batch of Yannis' sculpts which Steel Fist sell I think mostly stand a bit taller than Perry, BUT that is I believe because they have thicker integral bases. If Yannis is reading this, is that something you're aware of, or is it necessary for the production process or something?
The second batch (leaning and kneeling ones) I do have and will check when I get home..... but I notice on your comparison pic you compared a leaning forward pose to two upright Perry poses, which isn't a fair comparison.
The most recent batch I haven't got myself yet so don't know about their exact heights of thickness of bases.

The ones Yannis sculpted for me as a private commission I've got in resin. A few of them stand a little bit taller than Perry. But mostly due to thick integral bases, and being resin they can very easily be lowered just by sanding them down. A bit trickier with metal.

But I'm just talking about a millimeter or two. And if some of us say they are slightly shorter, and some of us say slightly taller, then we can probably say on average they are about right! : )
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 06, 2024, 08:08:20 PM
Hi Charlie

Thank you … the blog really is embryonic, and will be more of a project notebook, much like my Sudan blog has turned out to be.

Handling the Steel Fist Miniatures gives the impression I have described. This certainly isn’t a criticism, and I am sure that once they have heads, arms and weapons etc and are based, the differences I perceive will vanish.

They are a lovely set of alternatives, and I’m very much looking forward to seeing how they turn out.

I have forgotten what the plastic figure in the last image is up to … it’s been a couple of months since I assembled him … he may be preparing a crossbow for loading.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Hunlion on March 06, 2024, 11:42:54 PM

I plan to raise my Perry miniatures to match the Steelfist's bodies. ;)

Hunlion
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 14, 2024, 02:46:26 AM
Let me try to clear the size issue. First of all I must say that I dont have any of the metal castings in my hands, only the clay masters and resin casts that are 100% identical to the masters either cast by myself or my local casting service.
The Perry bodies/minis are not all the same size. I know, that its not evident but if you take a micrometer to them you will see that the only standard dimension is the width of the shoulders in order to receive the two handed weapons without fitting issues. When it comes to height some are taller, some are shorter with the middle ground being the armored body with a livery standing with the feet planted apart at the same angle. The differences are very slight.
Let me say that Im talking about the plastics, which are the ones Im striving to reach quality wise. The Perry metals are indeed chunkier I assume due to production reasons and because they are 1:1 reproductions, while the plastics are refined pantographed copies of 4 up master sculpts.
All the bodies and minis made to fit with the Perry range are built over the same wire armature for 32mm minis (to the top of the head) and with the main measurements model being the plastic armored body I mentioned. For the sake of a more natural feel, as the Perrys do, I also try to ever so slightly vary the height of the models. Im talking about very slight changes (like 1mm), but always retaining the right measurements on the shoulders, chest etc and limbs proportions. Compared to the Perry plastics always, my sculpts are the same thickness or just a tiny bit chunkier in legs and arms cause they are 1:1 sculpts but compared to the Perry metals yes they are slender (as their plastics are too).
When Charlie sent me the photos with his mixed units with my first sculpts, his commissioned pieces, and kitbashed Perry minis, frankly I had to look two times to make out which were mine.
Once I clear my bench a bit in the following days I will take some comparison pics with the various Perry bodies and mine to illustrate the point.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 14, 2024, 02:54:02 AM
And now something slightly different.
I wasnt sure if I should post it here but since its Perry sized and 15th century based, I will anyway  :D. This is a female RPG character based on an illustration provided by the client. It is meant for a historically based DnD group. Im guilty of the fancy crow head war hammer. What can I do, I love my bling  :D

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/e7/bc/fbe7bca7d1e9568ce9def9164a0d6731.jpg)

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 14, 2024, 03:09:02 AM
And now back to our usual program  :D

3 more Pole armed rankers adding to a total of 6 new models to the previous 9. One comes with a head by me, the other two have Perry heads on for display reasons.
No1
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No2
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No3
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/ca/3b/28ca3bdf367f37d6655bb86d44b31384.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/41/a6/0441a6f486ac93da9b921a8626fd100c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/24/f9/3a/24f93a9b3f7f9b4a92565b5cc599a729.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/f8/22/42f822c7c6b1cd32f21366960eae4d2b.jpg)
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And all the new 6 boys together without heads and weapons
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Btw you can also follow my work or contact me in

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https://www.instagram.com/talos.miniatures/

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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Freddy on March 14, 2024, 06:07:32 PM
Great quality sculpting work!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 14, 2024, 06:13:16 PM
Let me try to clear the size issue. …

Thank you Captain for your detailed and thoughtful post.

My sense of the really very slight differences comes from handling and looking rather than measuring … and in no way is it a problem, and certainly not an ‘issue’.

I bought five sets (LM08, LM09, LM10, LM11, LM12) and multiple packs of some.

These miniatures are very fine, and I am very happy with them, and looking forward to modelling with them as my project develops.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 14, 2024, 07:22:35 PM
Great quality sculpting work!

Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 14, 2024, 07:30:57 PM
Thank you Captain for your detailed and thoughtful post.

My sense of the really very slight differences comes from handling and looking rather than measuring … and in no way is it a problem, and certainly not an ‘issue’.

I bought five sets (LM08, LM09, LM10, LM11, LM12) and multiple packs of some.

These miniatures are very fine, and I am very happy with them, and looking forward to modelling with them as my project develops.

Cheers
JJ
Thank you for your kind words Jack, and your blog looks really good.
I didn’t even realize the slight variations between the Perry sculpts, before taking measurements for my sculpts. Also their heads are not the same size and not across boxes, but even within the same sets. But that tiny amount of variety ( and the more realistic anatomy proportions) imo is crucial into adding to the more natural look of Perry minis when put into units.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Orctrader on March 15, 2024, 08:17:18 AM
...female RPG character based on an illustration provided by the client. It is meant for a historically based DnD group. Im guilty of the fancy crow head war hammer. What can I do, I love my bling  :D

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/e7/bc/fbe7bca7d1e9568ce9def9164a0d6731.jpg)



That's brilliant. 

Are they available to purchase or just one-offs for private client?
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 15, 2024, 09:22:31 AM
Thank you for your kind words Jack, and your blog looks really good.
I didn’t even realize the slight variations between the Perry sculpts, before taking measurements for my sculpts. Also their heads are not the same size and not across boxes, but even within the same sets. But that tiny amount of variety ( and the more realistic anatomy proportions) imo is crucial into adding to the more natural look of Perry minis when put into units.

You’re more than welcome. These dollies will add welcome variety to my retinues.

I guess it’s a matter of ‘knowing the sprues’ and making careful choices when matching limbs and heads to bodies. I like the more natural anatomical proportions (as much as I love the look of the Front Rank range, they are just a bit too well fed).

I have only just got started with the blog, but it will become a project note book, as my Sudan blog has. I will, of course, be posting details of my use of the dollies.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 16, 2024, 01:03:03 AM
That's brilliant. 

Are they available to purchase or just one-offs for private client?

Actually this one is available send me a PM
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Blood on March 16, 2024, 10:58:36 AM
Those are lovely. If I didn’t already have several hundred Perry figures, I’d definitely be in for some of these. But I really don’t need any more (on top of the unfinished Perry and Warsteel units I’ve yet to wrap up) lol

I have always thought your bodies look a little leaner and more slender in the leg than the Perry plastic bodies, but I’ve never held one in my hand, so that’s just an impression from all the photos you’ve posted. This latest batch look particularly good though. And people are all slightly different shapes and sizes anyway, so what the heck :)

Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 16, 2024, 01:33:25 PM
And all the new 6 boys together without heads and weapons
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Are these going to be available from Steel Fist Miniatures too?

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 17, 2024, 12:30:57 PM
And all the new 6 boys together without heads and weapons
Are these going to be available from Steel Fist Miniatures too?

Cheers
JJ

I can’t confirm or exclude anything at the moment  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 17, 2024, 12:37:29 PM
Those are lovely. If I didn’t already have several hundred Perry figures, I’d definitely be in for some of these. But I really don’t need any more (on top of the unfinished Perry and Warsteel units I’ve yet to wrap up) lol

I have always thought your bodies look a little leaner and more slender in the leg than the Perry plastic bodies, but I’ve never held one in my hand, so that’s just an impression from all the photos you’ve posted. This latest batch look particularly good though. And people are all slightly different shapes and sizes anyway, so what the heck :)

Actually the legs fall between the Perry plastics and metals. The plastic Perry hosed bodies for some reason tend to be shorter and stockier while the armored ones with one or two exceptions taller and leaner. The metal ones are abit chunkier but since I want mine to fit with the plastics I follow that model, and frankly it’s harder cause the Perry plastics are actually sculpted as 4 ups not 1:1 scale. But since I don’t have access to that kind of tech, I just try to do my best into smoothing everything out.

Btw you are the cause that I fell into Perry Wotr, it’s all your fault  lol lol
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 17, 2024, 03:13:18 PM
I can’t confirm or exclude anything at the moment  ;)

That’s not fair! 😭 🤣


Interesting observations about sizing again … and truly exceptional sculpting at 1:1 then. I’m well impressed.

Cheers
JJ
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Ronin1978 on March 17, 2024, 03:48:43 PM
hi, sorry, I didn't understand. How many miniatures are there with 12 polearms?  and how can I get some.  greetings and congratulations.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 19, 2024, 12:56:29 AM
hi, sorry, I didn't understand. How many miniatures are there with 12 polearms?  and how can I get some.  greetings and congratulations.

The minis with polearms are now 15. They are not available yet for the pubic but Im working on it. Thank you for your kind words.
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 19, 2024, 01:23:28 AM
added a head with an open visor salet

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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/26/f5/2f/26f52fcab65b4c67e561ec003551095e.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/cc/2a/bccc2ae4b11c39a3c08a9405a673017c.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/46/b4/1c46b4c4fc30f92f6a680a27842b6a89.jpg)
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Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: GulKelan on March 19, 2024, 09:16:20 AM
They are incredible beautiful, well done! cant wait to get my hand on these! :)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Atheling on March 19, 2024, 12:16:15 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 19, 2024, 05:54:02 PM
They are incredible beautiful, well done! cant wait to get my hand on these! :)
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 19, 2024, 07:04:44 PM
These are fabulous too. 😋
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Freddy on March 19, 2024, 08:19:09 PM
This new sculpt also looks great!
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: SirGromit1879 on March 21, 2024, 12:04:20 PM
He is your most beautiful figure yet, straight out of a Graham Turner painting, got a really cool Burgundian vibe too. Genuinely blown away by every release you do, cannot beleive how many figures there are now WOW
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Harlock on March 21, 2024, 12:48:56 PM
He is your most beautiful figure yet, straight out of a Graham Turner painting, got a really cool Burgundian vibe too. Genuinely blown away by every release you do, cannot beleive how many figures there are now WOW

Thank you so much! Actually the reference was Graham Turner's work (I need to pick up that new book)
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Captain Blood on March 21, 2024, 02:58:49 PM
Now that figure, I MUST have  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: bluewillow on March 27, 2024, 04:57:23 PM
Really looking forward to these to add to my French Ordonnance 1480 army.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Alternative bodies compatible with War of the Roses Perry Miniatures (new set)
Post by: Jack Jones on March 28, 2024, 10:04:43 AM
(I need to pick up that new book)

You do! It’s a fantastic volume.

Cheers
JJ