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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: voltan on October 23, 2009, 09:17:36 AM

Title: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: voltan on October 23, 2009, 09:17:36 AM
found on a newsgroup i frequent and thought others may like to see, pictures labelled as found

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a total of 8 nations (and empires)
combined to send an interventionist force, namely, Austria-Hungary, France,
Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the UK and the US.  The main contributors to
this coalition were (in order) Japan, Russia and the UK (or, at least, the
Indian Army of the British Empire).

Boxers was the name given in English to the movement which opposed the spread
of imperialism and Christian proselytising in China.  The name the movement's
members gave themselves was the Fists of Righteous Harmony.


Forces of the Eight Nation Alliance at a victory parade in the Forbidden
City, 20 November 1900
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer01.jpg)
Representative members of the interventionist forces, snapped by a Japanese
photographer
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer02.jpg)
A German parade
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer03.jpg)
German infantry
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer04.jpg)
German cavalry
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer05.jpg)
German cavalryman in Tianjin (Tientsin) after its capture in July 1900
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer06.jpg)
German marines
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer07.jpg)
Soldiers from various nations spectate at the execution of Boxers
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer08.jpg)
A German soldier at the Legation Quarter in Beijing during the siege
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer09.jpg)
Japanese infantry
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer10.jpg)
Japanese cavalry and infantry uniforms
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer11.jpg)
Japanese soldiers executing Chinese men
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer12.jpg)
Japanese soldiers with a captured Boxer
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer13.jpg)
Cavalry of the British Indian Army
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer14.jpg)
US marines
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer15.jpg)
Russian officers
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer16.jpg)
Members of the Italian contingent
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer17.jpg)
French soldiers
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/boxer18.jpg)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Hammers on October 23, 2009, 10:05:17 AM
Fantastic. Some pretty brutal images in there though.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: postal on October 23, 2009, 11:07:47 AM
very nice I enjoyed every second of them
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: HerbyF on October 23, 2009, 02:09:48 PM
This is one of my favorite conflicts. I have a very large Chinese army, but I really do need to work on my European forces. These are great pictures. Very inspiring.  :P
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: RJ on October 23, 2009, 04:23:35 PM
Inspirational and moving images

Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 23, 2009, 05:10:49 PM
What a fantastic set of photos  8)

Some real uniform guides there.

Do you have a link to the new group by any chance just in case there might be more  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: traveller on October 23, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
Great inspiration! thansk for sharing!
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Chairface on October 23, 2009, 05:35:48 PM
Absolutely gorgeous pics! They give you a real sense of the sensitivites of the day too.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: voltan on October 23, 2009, 09:43:55 PM
What a fantastic set of photos  8)

Some real uniform guides there.

Do you have a link to the new group by any chance just in case there might be more  :)

cheers

James

not sure how to link to a newsgroup but the name is alt.binaries.pictures.military I normally go there for the photos of dreadnought era warships, but you can get some real gems like the above too
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Chairface on October 23, 2009, 10:42:28 PM
Chairface - sensibilities and Victorian Imperialism are strange bedfellows. I do not think for a second our Imperial ancestors dwelt long upon such matters. No troubled night's sleep for them! But yeah, magnificent photographic record.

Thats kind of what I was getting at. Lucky fellows!
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: archangel1 on October 24, 2009, 04:02:16 AM
Nice collection, all new to me.  Impressive jingal on show in the photo of the Russian officers.  I like the way the photographer shot the German infantrymen, with the three views.  Closet miniaturist?  :D
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: former user on October 24, 2009, 06:11:09 AM
thx for sharing this interesting pictorial record

may I offer our wargame "interpretation" of the event:
http://www.ths-wargames.de/index2.htm (http://www.ths-wargames.de/index2.htm)

"Peking 1900" in the gallery, I'm afraid there is no direct link

for those who do not know it yet
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: carlos marighela on October 24, 2009, 07:32:38 AM
Nice photos. Those aren't Indian cavalry though, they appear to be Sappers & Miners, hence the infantry kit.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Bako on October 24, 2009, 10:22:24 AM
Wow, that's quite the rifle in the one Russian picture.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Captain Black on October 25, 2009, 05:10:54 PM
Thanks for sharing the pictures.The guys of Falkirk wargames club are into the Boxer Rebellion in a big way :)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: voltan on October 25, 2009, 06:23:08 PM
some more pictures from the same poster;
 again labelled as they were found

Boxer rebelion

Taku forts, strongholds of the I Ho Chuan (Fists of Righteous Harmony, ie,
the Boxers), 1900
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/OldBoxer01.jpg)
Battery of 5th US Artillery on the road to Beijing, August 1900
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/OldBoxer02.jpg)
150mm breech loaders captured from the Chinese, 1900.
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/OldBoxer03.jpg)

First balkans war
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The First Balkan War, 1912-13 involved the Balkan League (consisting of
Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia) taking on the Ottoman Empire (Turkey, the Sick
Man of Europe).  The League won but Bulgaria fell out with its allies and the
Second Balkan War began about a month after the first one ended.
The picture shows Serbian machine gunners near Adrianople, 1912
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/balkan01.jpg)
Bulgarian position overlooking mountain road, 1912
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/balkan02.jpg)
Bulgarian defenders of Stara Zagora in the snow, 1912
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/balkan03.jpg)

Siege of sidney street
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The Siege of Sidney Street took place in London in 1911 when a gang of armed
Latvian burglars led by Peter the Painter got cornered by the police,
assisted by the Scots Guards, some artillery and Winston Churchill.

Three policemen were killed and two wounded, two of the gang burned to death
at the end of the siege and Churchill's top hat got a bullet hole in it.
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The Siege ended when the house the burglars were in caught fire and two of
the gang were burned to death.  Various people were arrested but nobody did
time.  Peter the Painter himself was never caught.  One of the other people
apparently ended up as deputy head of the Cheka.
The picture shows Winston Churchill, then Home Secretary having a peek at the siege (with
some scallywag above his head).
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/sidney01.jpg)
Members of the 1st Battalion, Scots Guards aiding the civil power (at
Churchill's behest)
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/sidney02.jpg)
The Scots Guards strategically positioned at what looks like a pub at the
corner of Sidney Street
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/sidney03.jpg)
Artillery brought up but not used.
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/sidney04.jpg)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: former user on October 25, 2009, 06:30:03 PM
nice pics

what's that have to do with the boxer rebellion?
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: voltan on October 25, 2009, 06:33:49 PM
they were all posted in one lot and I'm too tired to seperate it all  ;)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: former user on October 25, 2009, 06:39:36 PM
OK, no problem

thought there might be some link intended
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Chairface on October 25, 2009, 06:40:45 PM
they were all posted in one lot and I'm too tired to seperate it all  ;)

Glad you did! Fantastic to see young Churchill in action. If anyone in the sculpting community ever wanted to do a series of Churchill minis, from his army days to his Boer Was escapades to the stages of his political career, they would have my money.  

Chairface- I see your point. Apologies, it was Friday and I was already in "weekend mode" i.e. leave work, turn off brain.

Please, no appologies needed. I have a dry sense of humour and it dosn't always transfer to print. I guess I need to use more emoticons. Or quotation marks.   ;)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Galman on October 25, 2009, 08:30:07 PM
Great pics and thinks for sharing.  Im big into the Boxer Rebellion!  Being a US Marine I love the history and everything about it.  Great pics of Mr. Churchill, the man was the standard that was to be reached!
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: gamer Mac on November 02, 2009, 03:34:06 PM
Great pictures thanks for posting them.
(http://www.voltansshed.com/stuff/boxer/sidney02.jpg)
I can't believe that the roughty toughty Scots guards had to bring cushions with them so they didn’t hurt their knees or dirty their uniforms lol
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 02, 2009, 03:59:59 PM

I can't believe that the roughty toughty Scots guards had to bring cushions with them so they didn’t hurt their knees or dirty their uniforms lol

 lol

Well, they were hoity-toity Guardsmen and not proper soldiers after all :o  lol

Interesting to see that appear to have been [at least] two Police forces present at Sidney Street. One wearing "combed" helmets and the other the more usual "pointy" ones. Also some in basic greatcoats and others with capes added.

The siege might make the basis of a good scenario for VSF/alternate history Victorian game  :)

Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Aaron on November 02, 2009, 04:10:16 PM
Funny, the first thing that ran through my mind was "Wow, they are on bases!".  lol
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: fastolfrus on November 02, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Funny, the first thing that ran through my mind was "Wow, they are on bases!".  lol

That makes at least two of us - my other thought was "at least its square bases not round slotta bases", (but these are good old HM Queen Victoria empire not GW evil empire :~})
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Plynkes on November 02, 2009, 06:05:33 PM
KGV, not Queen Vic.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: fastolfrus on November 02, 2009, 06:08:16 PM
thx for sharing this interesting pictorial record

may I offer our wargame "interpretation" of the event:
http://www.ths-wargames.de/index2.htm (http://www.ths-wargames.de/index2.htm)

"Peking 1900" in the gallery, I'm afraid there is no direct link

for those who do not know it yet

Very inspirational, I should really send an email to ask for advice/construction details (or perhaps just some building plans), but I haven't got quite that far yet.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 02, 2009, 07:42:49 PM


Interesting to see that appear to have been [at least] two Police forces present at Sidney Street. One wearing "combed" helmets and the other the more usual "pointy" ones. Also some in basic greatcoats and others with capes added.




Looks like there's City of London and Metropolitan police there, that explains the different uniforms. The City of London chaps have the capes and centurion style helmets. Does anyone know if there's 28mm police with capes on the market? Could do with some.

Thanks for sharing the pics Voltan. 


Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 02, 2009, 08:34:51 PM
Looks like there's City of London and Metropolitan police there, that explains the different uniforms. The City of London chaps have the capes and centurion style helmets. Does anyone know if there's 28mm police with capes on the market? Could do with some.

Thanks for sharing the pics Voltan. 


Did they have the Met in those days? I's always assumed they were a product of the formation of the artificial urban counties back in the 70's.

I'm almost certainly wrong, though  lol

The bobbies in capes could be fairly easily converted from Westwind etc, with a bit of greenstuff. The wool would be pretty thick so no need for lots of little finicky creases.

Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 02, 2009, 09:19:27 PM
The bobbies in capes could be fairly easily converted from Westwind etc, with a bit of greenstuff. The wool would be pretty thick so no need for lots of little finicky creases.




Good idea! Any volunteers? I'm crap  ;)

The Met was formed in 1829, trust me I had a belly full of it at Hendon!  :)


Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: answer_is_42 on November 02, 2009, 09:41:07 PM
The siege might make the basis of a good scenario for VSF/alternate history Victorian game  :)
Well, now that you mention it...
http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/88sidneyst1.html
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Plynkes on November 02, 2009, 10:10:29 PM
Did they have the Met in those days? I's always assumed they were a product of the formation of the artificial urban counties back in the 70's.

I'm almost certainly wrong, though  lol

Yes, as TC says, you are a little out in your estimate. Metropolitan Police Act 1829: Robert Peel and all that, mate. Bunking off the day they did that at your school were we?  :)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: voltan on November 02, 2009, 10:19:14 PM
Does anyone know if there's 28mm police with capes on the market? Could do with some.

Didn't artizan release some armed officers reacently, do they have capes?
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Mors on November 02, 2009, 11:33:33 PM
One of the Eureka Policemen has a cape, as well as one of there comic Policemen although I have not got that set. The only other one I know of is the BTD Dr Who Victorian Policeman. I have the Eureka, BTD , Westwind and Blue Moon coppers, are there any more? I wish you could still get the armed Police set from Wessex.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: HerbyF on November 03, 2009, 06:07:37 AM
Dixon has four in their ganster range. Also Pulp Figures has 2 or 3 sets. Another alternative is WWI British officers, the ones in long trousers not leggins or gaters. Also German WWII officers make good motorcycle cops.
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: gamer Mac on November 03, 2009, 10:37:53 AM
Eureka have both comic police and normal Victorian ones , only one in each set has a cape.
Normal ones
http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/100civ05-victorian-policeman-471-p.asp (http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/100civ05-victorian-policeman-471-p.asp)
Comic ones
http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/100civ05c-victorian-comic-policeman-472-p.asp (http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/100civ05c-victorian-comic-policeman-472-p.asp)
Title: Re: Boxer rebellion (pic heavy)
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 03, 2009, 05:07:26 PM
Yes, as TC says, you are a little out in your estimate. Metropolitan Police Act 1829: Robert Peel and all that, mate. Bunking off the day they did that at your school were we?  :)

 lol

See I knew I was wrong  ::)

Happily we concentrated on Medieval history rather than that new-fangled 19thC stuff, so I got my head stuffed full of Wars Of The Roses, Lambert Simnel, Perkin Warbeck, the Black Death etc.

I got better, though.