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Title: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 22, 2023, 03:41:35 AM
Greetings LAF’ers,

With so many of the forum members starting/or continuing Star Wars projects (Sgt_T and FifteensAway I blame you!) and many of the LAF’ers being fans I could do with some help on my current project: Star Wars in 15mm (for CoC, Tomorrows War and maybe Spectre Operations).

For Christmas my darling wife bought the stormtroopers I needed and my brother in law kindly bought me some GZG RANG troopers to use as rebels. Whilst they are humans I figured I’d sculpt some alien heads (thank god so many of the species are bipedal and human sized :D ) to add variety so………

What mix of Aliens/humans would/does YOUR rebellion force have? Any favourite species? What biome would/did you choose for basing? (Desert seems a little overdone and was thinking Jungle so I’d have an excuse to start WW2 Pacific finally lol). Are the rebels locals or are they shipped where needed? Whilst I grew up with Star Wars I don’t know a lot of canon I’ve just been drawn back in by the recent spin offs.

So far I’ve made a Twi’lek platoon leader, a Mon Calamari driver (blue or red?) for my speeder and a Sullustan RPG operator and intend to add more. I may even be lazy and paint a few humans with a different skin colour.

Thank you in advance for your time and help folks,

Stay safe

Andrew
Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on January 22, 2023, 05:21:37 AM
Well, since I'm partially "to blame", here is my take.   ;)

Setting for me will be a Tatooine like planet with a dose of Endor (soft spot for Ewoks, you see - I'm adapting Tolero to be my Ewoks).  Still not fully decided on basing but probably just use good old clean playground sand (I bought a 50 pound bag years ago so have far more than enough) - perhaps with a modest mix of Woodland Scenics blended turf, the not so green one.

Aliens - non-sentient are hard to find but there are a few here and there including preprinted 3D resin.  I really, really want to locate some 15/18 mm wild Bantas as preprinted since I don't have a 3D printer and not getting one (there is 3D print but it has riders and reins and such).

As for 'canon' aliens, those are pretty hard to find, too, especially as one-offs though see below about JS.  So, what I did was just order every metal alien I ran across from all the various Sci-Fi 15mm ranges.  I will divide these up into units of armed aliens and unarmed aliens.  I find most of the aliens easy to adapt but some of them look pretty fiddly to construct and make strong enough for table top use.   

If you are not already familiar, JS Wargames Printing gives some good options and I've availed myself of some of the offerings.  And the service is really good in my experience.  Here is a link: https://wargamerprinting.com (https://wargamerprinting.com)

Hope that gives you some of what you are looking for.  8)

And all I ask in return is if you find cool aliens out there to let us know - in 15 mm, of course!
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 22, 2023, 01:02:10 PM
Thank you FifteensAway, and I apologise for partially blaming my magpie like miniature obsession on you  :D . I may go for something not seen in Star Wars - a planet with more than one biome so I can play around with it a bit….. I’m sure inspiration will hit me at some point.

I shall check out that printing service as that may cover aspects I couldn’t easily sculpt. I’m happy for models not to be ‘canon’ (or my own take on it) and the more I rewatch the various films and series the more diverse and varied aliens I spot.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirLUAiRk1x_u18UdAro4X3vyOg3RcUg-Ualhenjz4AfQGHbSyKQS2FHpuNabEehysNzoITwNKAtxiSl4YRp5rM8baPN87tfljC1aDxger8V7ouWgZKqtJRCnfKNMkaONvLX5ZhmCBQR-9PMzMLsu31iSi7zHGbw6lQtleAY-Qv8OgurbBYNcM-v5e3Fg/s2412/2F72562A-AD21-4A13-A10C-195384BECC78.jpeg)
Not a great picture, due to the size, but I think it looks about right (the eyes are a little too forward but there does seem to be variance in the MC seen in the media).

Thank you again Fifteens - your thread (whilst not responsible!) has been very inspiring.

Andrew
Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Malamute on January 22, 2023, 01:14:33 PM
Nice sculpting, he looks great. :)

In our SW games we’re using Nevarro as the basis for the game. Dark brown earth bases with a few rocks and dried golden coloured grass tufts.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on January 22, 2023, 05:07:08 PM
Still working with the company - very early stages but seems amenable - to get some product in 15 mm from GetOfFenris, has some cool Star Wars stuff to add to options, especially Ewoks!  Not sure how the prices will work out yet.  That will be a HUGE determinant of what I order from them.  And certainly likely to be of interest to the Legion scale Star Wars modelers here on LAF.  Here is a link: https://www.etsy.com/shop/GetOfFenris?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=1234892194&page=1#items (https://www.etsy.com/shop/GetOfFenris?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=1234892194&page=1#items)

Anybody have experience with them, GetOfFenris, and know where they are based?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 22, 2023, 05:52:05 PM
Thank you Malamute, I’m quite pleased with him (her?) even if it’s a little rough, just need to get it painted so my poor wife doesn’t have to listen to me gargling “It’s a trap!” in an attempt to teach it to my parrot.

Did you choose Nevarro just because it’s barren and rather sparse thus less scenery? I’m guessing it was the sheer possibilities presented (by it’s recent appearance in Mando) and then volcanic minimalist terrain is just a plus.

FifteensAway: I have seen GetofFenris on Etsy and messaged them and a couple of other sellers about the possibilities of printing in 15mm but sadly no-one got back to me  :'( . When I’ve exhausted my other options I may try again.

I have to admit that if I wasn’t so set on 15mm (and Rod’s trooper sculpts are great) and didn’t feel the need to reduce my 28mm for space and interest reasons I would have bought into Legion heavily (especially with all the 3rd party sculpts now available). The great thing about 15mm is the models are big enough to have character without crowding the board and I can hopefully sculpt anything I need that isn’t available.

Thank you both for your help,

Andrew
Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Malamute on January 22, 2023, 06:42:02 PM


Did you choose Nevarro just because it’s barren and rather sparse thus less scenery? I’m guessing it was the sheer possibilities presented (by it’s recent appearance in Mando) and then volcanic minimalist terrain is just a plus.



Andrew
Balm

Pretty much as you say above and James of  OSHIROmodelterrain wanted to model the buildings.

See our stuff here for further inspiration.

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=139436.0
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 22, 2023, 06:53:10 PM
Malamute: apologies your thread (and beautiful painting) is one of those that inspired me, I seem to have looked at so many blogs/posts/threads that I’m losing track (I doubt the inordinate volume of meds, that keep me barely ticking along, helped  lol). I’m going to go back and thoroughly re-peruse it now.

I’ve also been reading Oshiro’s thread and snapshotting (stealing?) all of the great ideas on show. It is one of the few things pushing me to try and get to salute this year as I haven’t been for ages (covid) and would love to see it in person.

Thanks

Andrew
Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Malamute on January 22, 2023, 07:13:32 PM
Andrew,
Do come to Salute and say hello. We will be running a participation game using Fistful of lead Galactic Heroes on the Nevarro terrain. :)
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Oldben1 on January 24, 2023, 09:08:23 PM
I have dabbled in the 15mm Star Wars realm:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50695791766_a5a163e218_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kePbFh)mando1 (https://flic.kr/p/2kePbFh) by oldben1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/26861900@N00/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51615419526_3631a8ddf1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mD5vYj)Clipboard02 (https://flic.kr/p/2mD5vYj) by oldben1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/26861900@N00/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4647/39181653772_321e812328_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22GmdAG)Scatter terrain and miniatures! (https://flic.kr/p/22GmdAG) by oldben1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/26861900@N00/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4732/39324890082_432d916358_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22V1kLf)Mos Eisley 15mm (https://flic.kr/p/22V1kLf) by oldben1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/26861900@N00/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 24, 2023, 09:18:45 PM
I’ve also been reading Oshiro’s thread and snapshotting (stealing?) all of the great ideas on show. It is one of the few things pushing me to try and get to salute this year as I haven’t been for ages (covid) and would love to see it in person.

Come along and hassle FFoL Jaye  lol

The sculpting on that 15mm figure is great  :)
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 25, 2023, 12:39:28 AM
Oldben1: Thank you for posting, great painting and an excellent collection sir! I love your ship/shuttle it’s screams Star Wars to me. I admire your vision in building a compact but practical board to play on. I tend to get overexcited and overreach in my projects lol I clearly need to be your padawan, I have much to learn…

Oshiro: Thank you for your comments and inspirational projects. With my sculpts I’m trying to generally represent actual Star Wars denizens but I’m happy to stylise them so they’re recognisable at arms length/on the tabletop. If I can get to Salute I will as I miss seeing what others are up to in person (and was saddened to realise that Penarth Wargames excellent CRUSADE show has been permanently cancelled - it was an exemplar to all shows).

On that note here is a badly lit, bad picture of a Sullustan. It’s only blocked in and washed so a bit drab but I’m trying to get back to painting after a lengthy break and haven’t found my flow yet.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOqApSAxmAS2oR_qWrw3tmsz_Y3v6U0qzhWQ-p_LouzTq9oaFVstUd82i9_KBMnhg96GD1xrvfpfGCoclcGQRD-0pnfCcfEvOjsmQ9Wp2_cBxBYEXATHyB3cyD6hS7bpMNjUvvwrUNqBKnHzHaMb_4TJCQHlB1YnbjWKYa0tnm5AvhajRbVYw80MGOhA/s2422/75621D2D-25B4-40EF-89DD-8FE7BF5AF9BF.jpeg)

Thank you all for taking the time and helping, I’m slightly shocked there’s only four Star Wars fans on LAF  lol

Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: DivisMal on January 25, 2023, 05:09:32 AM
Wow! A lot of good stuff in this thread. When I tried 15mm SW 3d printing wasn’t an option so after a while I got frustrated looking at all the nice stuff available in bigger scales and sold my stuff.  :?

I did however collect a lot of Micro Machines SW and while they were rather on the 20mm side, many worked as large 18ish 15mm. Especially with aliens you might get lucky. In any case you could cut off the heads and glue them on suitably posed 15s.

Admittedly, I don’t know what you might pay these days for Micro Machines…
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Malamute on January 25, 2023, 08:29:45 AM
Love the Sullustan and the Mando ;D

Cracking stuff considering they are 15mm :o :)

Do come to Salute and say hello, we might even let you join in a game of FFOl GH ;) :)
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 25, 2023, 11:33:17 AM
DivisMal: I can totally relate to that feeling. I also have that chap clad in Beskar and was considering going the mando way with him!

If I didn’t have loads of 28mm I need to disperse to more deserving owners I would have spent far too much on Legion. I’ve stared at the mythical Highlander studios 15mm stormtroopers for quite a few years but as they were in USA I just put it off repeatedly lol . Luckily my wife is awesome and bought them for me for Crimbo. I’ve looked at some Micro Machines but the scale and prices do vary drastically (although I think the trooper on a Dewback is 1:100).

If you need to check on scales use  https://www.rebelscale.com/scale-lists/ (https://www.rebelscale.com/scale-lists/) as it is a great resource.

So far I have 40+ stormtroopers, an equal rebel platoon from GZG, the hard to find and ridiculously expensive (according to resellers on eBay - often listed from £100 to £400 and it’s really basic) Revell snap together 1:106 Lambda class Imperial shuttle, a 1:100 U-wing that was supposed to have light and sound but I ripped that up to make room for a cargo bay and gunners, two Jazwares 1:100 AT-ST’s (I love these sooo much it’s wrong) and some other miscellaneous bits and bobs. I’ll try and get a group (pile of WIP) shot.

Malamute: thank you I’m glad he’s recognisable, I asked my wife but had to show her a reference pic so she knew what she was looking at :D . Whilst most of my intended SW gaming was going to be platoon vs platoon I suddenly realised I hadn’t even considered Jedi! I will probably make my own but I don’t think they’ll work brilliantly in my chosen system so I’m now seriously considering FFoL as well. I’ll try and find a comprehensive AAR I can watch so I can get a feel for it (if nothing else I will probably pick it up to allow me to run multiplayer games at club).

Thank you for taking the time and helping to motivate me,

Andrew
Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Malamute on January 25, 2023, 12:52:10 PM


Malamute: thank you I’m glad he’s recognisable, I asked my wife but had to show her a reference pic so she knew what she was looking at :D . Whilst most of my intended SW gaming was going to be platoon vs platoon I suddenly realised I hadn’t even considered Jedi! I will probably make my own but I don’t think they’ll work brilliantly in my chosen system so I’m now seriously considering FFoL as well. I’ll try and find a comprehensive AAR I can watch so I can get a feel for it (if nothing else I will probably pick it up to allow me to run multiplayer games at club).

Thank you for taking the time and helping to motivate me,

Andrew
Balm

 Check out Wiley Games on You Tube, they have plenty of walk throughs on how to play FFOL. The mechanics are the same with whichever genre you look at, so watching a fantasy game AAR will give you the same understanding as a Galactic Heroes one. Hope that helps. They work best as a skirmish game with 6-9 figures per player. The Bigger Battles set handles actions with larger groups of figures. If you have questions on the system feel free to ask.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on January 25, 2023, 03:05:14 PM
For your Jedi, revisit Highlander Studios - you can get all of the primary original trilogy main characters (except Llando - Boba Fett instead).  Yeah, shipping is a bit pricey but it is relative.  I'm worrying more about an order out of the UK for some preprinted 3D trees and the problems with the UK post system.  And I don't think the shipping is overwhelmingly expensive.  I've bought internationally for decades and it more or less works out to about 30% of the purchase price now but it has always been at least 20% or more in my experience, small order or large.

If you do buy the Highlander Studios items, they are small enough and durable enough to go in a smallish envelope rather than 'package' - though I'd pay the extra for the package just in case.  Of course, if you sculpt your own, less of an issue.  There are also a number of 3D print options out there now in 15 mm.  Still working on GetOfFenris - awaiting a reply from my response to his original reply.

Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Oldben1 on January 25, 2023, 04:30:01 PM
I use gzg for my rebel troopers, as well as for my x-wing pilots.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4904/32064258157_61bd3cc6e8_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRpGRc)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/QRpGRc) by oldben1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/26861900@N00/), on Flickr

I don't have pics of the pilots, but they look really close.
Here is the small cantina I knocked out:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4764/39790130971_1e02edf250_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23C7PET)Mos Eisley cantina (https://flic.kr/p/23C7PET) by oldben1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/26861900@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 26, 2023, 12:32:35 AM
Malamute: thank you for the pointer I shall check those out. I tend to like crunchy (my opponent would say nearly unplayable games e.g Phoenix Command, Knights of the Air, Fighting Wings) rulesets generally but have really come to value a simple but fluid and fun system so FFoL may be perfect (I bought into Wings of Glory to teach my niece about sportsmanship and now treasure my collection and the fun we’ve had with big multiplayer games at club).

FifteensAway: I have the bounty hunter, rogue and big hairy chap but held off on the Jedi for some weird reason. I need to get back in touch with Rod at Highlander as I have some ideas to discuss with him.

OldBen1: Awesome. I love your work. I do like those GZG buckethead chaps and I think I know the old range you’ve used for pilots - I shall have to check but unfortunately the website pictures of the older ranges aren’t great. I shall investigate I might even have some somewhere….

Thank you all, I’m really struggling (generally at the moment) and I’m surprised by how much forcing myself to post and interact has helped my motivation (the kind words and generally excellent, supportive environment on LAF is invaluable).

 If anyone in the South Wales area fancies playing Chain of Command in 15mm (Star wars or WW2) in the hopefully near future please give me a shout.

With luck I’ll achieve something tomorrow and have some pictures rather than just walls of text.

Thanks again,

Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: DivisMal on January 26, 2023, 08:01:54 AM
DivisMal: I can totally relate to that feeling. I also have that chap clad in Beskar and was considering going the mando way with him!

If I didn’t have loads of 28mm I need to disperse to more deserving owners I would have spent far too much on Legion. I’ve stared at the mythical Highlander studios 15mm stormtroopers for quite a few years but as they were in USA I just put it off repeatedly lol . Luckily my wife is awesome and bought them for me for Crimbo. I’ve looked at some Micro Machines but the scale and prices do vary drastically (although I think the trooper on a Dewback is 1:100).

If you need to check on scales use  https://www.rebelscale.com/scale-lists/ (https://www.rebelscale.com/scale-lists/) as it is a great resource.


Thanks. And yeah. Legion is a terrible waste of my resources:) but it’s currently the only thing where I still buy stuff in larger than 15mm.

Sadly I am not in South Wales, but Hanover, otherwise I might be tempted to start again (I never sold my core of painted characters, Obi, Luke, Jabba and Co.)
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Oldben1 on January 26, 2023, 03:23:01 PM
SG15-E11 - excellent proxy for rebel pilots.

Gzg miniatures Under the Eurasian 15mm infantry
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on January 26, 2023, 04:12:22 PM
DivisMal: Never too late to re-start (and in my case re-stop when distracted by something else lol) another project. Luckily I do enjoy the modelling and painting side (even if I struggle against my functionality some days) so ultimately I’m sure those poor dead end projects aren’t a waste of my time just good practice for the ones that make it!

OldBen: Eurasian Solar Union - that’s the chaps, good eyes sir! It’s a shame John doesn’t do unarmed variants, maybe if I get to Salute this year I can suggest them  :D

Well after a couple of particularly rough days I’ve achieved nothing more but I’m going to try and at least get more based up. I get annually levelled up in a couple of days and will probably just ask for more little men so that might help me progress a bit.

Thank you all,

Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on February 15, 2023, 10:43:09 PM
So infuriatingly I’ve not been great for the last couple of weeks (spending your birthday in bed on morphine isn’t as cool as it sounds lol) but have managed to get enough functionality to tackle my favourite Star Wars universe vehicle the AT-ST.

Brilliantly the Micro Galaxy Squadron series have AT-ST’s in 1:100 which is perfect for 15mm and the first of two is ready for painting after having a new main weapon added and a magnetised base to ensure tabletop stability. I’m really pleased with it and think it looks great alongside a stormtrooper.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAhqZBKLfZ29byc-OfvGVUbiD2335GfY9hqq9kTYWCKtWcnfeEgXYnrNoHSaIgU4VQ7XdtiMRHrE9g9BNyTdNdH4C3fX1_VwD8DkANg00QkuL2EB9u3xVF4GdBZoa2WpcViydLXJik6gTha00qgN4okxKsCuGb27oYVmPSjchmVBmt3uUrbAm7OfYCxA/s2741/A0A0F734-542D-4F09-8F0B-301368B82225.jpeg)

Hopefully more to come, thank you for looking,

Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Malamute on February 16, 2023, 08:08:39 AM
Looking good. :)
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: DivisMal on February 17, 2023, 05:22:28 AM
Brilliant!!!!

I was missing exactly such cool stuff when I tried SW in 15 (and later in 25mm).
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on February 17, 2023, 08:33:44 PM
I don’t know why I’m such a fan of them but the fact that they were available in the correct scale (and are a support choice in the Empire Chain of Command lists) was one of the key parts of being able to make ‘Star Wars’ on my tabletop. The other being the excellent Highlander Stormtroopers.

I’m still undecided on my setting but I’m probably going with a base green so it’ll fit my Europe (and intended jungle) terrain sets with minimal additions.

Thanks,

Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on March 24, 2023, 02:50:50 PM
Just a late update - Get of Fenris did not pan out.  He was willing to reduce in size but wanted to keep 28 mm pricing and that was too steep for me.  Working on an alternate possibility but the proprietor is having health issues so not sure that will get very far.  And not sure if his prices will be too steep or not.  I don't mind paying a modest premium but a 500% premium is beyond my tolerance.  And I'm not blaming the proprietor, they do need to turn a profit. 

Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on March 24, 2023, 07:01:44 PM
Oh that’s disappointing. If they weren’t their (Fenris’) models maybe you can purchase the STLs and find a friendly local printer to handle them instead? I regularly see prints that I think look great but then see the price (or on Etsy sometimes just the P&P) and have to stop looking!

I’ve been drastically slowed by miserable, real world drudgery but I’ve just (in the gaps in the rain) base coated my first AT-ST and a test stormtrooper so hopefully that’ll help motivate me. Are there any examples of vehicle markings on AT-ST’s that you know of? I’m sure I’ve seen vehicle numbers on some somewhere….. I was considering stowage as well (although I haven’t seen it in any SW program/game I can remember) but may leave this as an excuse to buy more in the future  :D

Thank you for keeping me updated Fifteens,

Balm
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 24, 2023, 07:52:09 PM
Stowage yes, markings, not so much.

There are legion players that add markings and I've seen a few modellers add them so if you want to, go for it  :)
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 11, 2023, 06:36:12 AM
So how is this project moving along?
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on December 11, 2023, 03:50:16 PM
Another interested in progress in this project.

Have had some luck with my local 3D printer dude - though lately having lots of health issues.  But I've gotten Wookies and Ewoks, Imperial and Rebel troops, some speeders and other stuff like a flying Ewok glider (want a few more), a Jaba the Hutt with a couple of Twylek, even Salacious Crum (sp?), and various other bits.  Hope my 3D guy gets better.

OP still active within the last few days - I will try sending him a PM.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 11, 2023, 04:00:30 PM
Hi War Monkey. Thank you for enquiring (and the kick to see if I am dead).

Listing slightly to one side and drifting gently in a circle lol but importantly still moving!

This hasn’t been a great year generally (at least for me), after losing my beloved hound we’ve taken in a new pup and currently between serious illness and puppy related exhaustion I’m not achieving a great deal.

I have had some ideas though and they’ve helped move the whole thing along a bit in my mind. I bought some of the new Alternative Armies “robots with guns” (not sure of their actual title) and some Loud Ninja Ikwen. The Ikwen are lovely (the robots terrible with obvious print lines from the master) and will be the low tech native species the Empire is exploiting on my home planet. Just got to decide how to paint them, but their very existence helps form a partial image of the world I would like - swamps/pools and forest for the Ikwen part. I want to create some kind of narrative explaining why the Empire are there and what they want from the planet.

So far:

An empire ship crashes after a fight with the emerging rebels in the sector, ploughing into the backwater area of a little settled planet, sadly, for the Ikwen though, straight into their home lands and more importantly their breeding/burial/healing grounds (undecided yet).

The devastation is terrible for the poor Ikwen but is just the beginning of their problems as the crash has ploughed through the sacrosanct ground and unearthed a terrible secret. Whatever granted such powers to the waters was thrown to the surface (spice equivalent/fuel source or some other material of interest to the Empire) and when the Empire’s recovery force turns up to check for survivors and reclaim any usable tech from the ship the resource is discovered.

Thus the space gits turn up and proceed to suppress and brutalise the Ikwen, using them as slave labour to extract the material. They expand the small settlements of non-natives already on the planet to meet their needs and in doing so help to give the Rebels the kick start of personnel and (borrowable) equipment. The small, but growing, rebel base hidden away on the planet bears witness to theses atrocities and many feel responsible. One rebel hothead (or small group) decides to (or accidentally) assist the Ikwen and this escalates drawing all the various protagonists into the fight.

It’s a bit rough but allows me to have more factions than I’d previously thought of with: Empire, Rebels, Ikwen and then additional smaller groups like Pyke Syndicate and other odds and sods.

I’d like to game with a few different rulesets at different sizes so this mix of forces should allow me to play Chain of Command with platoon sized Empire, Rebels and Ikwen forces and then smaller games of Spectre Ops for sneaky, more character driven action (hopefully on smaller table).

I’ve built an AT-AT (it’s in sub assemblies waiting for a base coat) and have managed to pick up another one for a reasonable price. I now have 5 AT-ST’s: 4 for the Empire and one as a captured vehicle. I need to get some larger mdf bases cut for my buildings (going to make them out of high density blue sheet foam and add GZG details and scratchbuilt bits) and recently picked up some great alien looking tufts and plant life from Great Escape Games to help make my tabletop look less blatantly Terran.


Fifteens: That sounds excellent - I’d love to see some of the 3D printed chaps, please feel free to post any pics here to help inspire me. Were Ewoks only on Endor? Are they exportable?

Apologies for the lack of updates, lengthy reply and any repetition on my part. If anyone is in South Wales and would like to help motivate my ongoing work by offering to play against/with me when it’s all finished (or at least in a recognisable state) I’d be grateful!

Thanks

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain


Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on December 11, 2023, 09:57:37 PM
As requested, photos of my 15 mm 3D prints - Ewoks.  Not sure of source but I use a local guy who either uses his own license to print or I pay for a license and he gets it and prints and then I pay for the prints themselves - pretty reasonable.  I think he had to convert everything to 15 mm.  Sadly, he is having some very serious health problems of his own so not sure if I will be able to get more work through him, I am hopeful both for his sake and so that I can round out a few things - like some more Ewoks  - and Princess Leia and Bib Fortuna if he can find them.

Here are what I have so far:

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjV8n9Eh8T39fDQhVZl7BuDvy4FK-PEcOWl88rWPhlb0wbziYrnS9_KfW3Moks9FI2aLRM4Q7khOUIMIAUiHczCFD0-NeV9MYrrSNoin_6OBq7EqaYcJJZQMKATZDuSZJtCOFIDBl3rBdYaypIkhcs-nfXdl50vQ2ekJcsGVrHNxtB1vTloaLF10aYqrA/w480-h640/IMG_2517.jpg)

Ewoks with heavy weapons

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Half unit of basic Ewoks, would like to bring to full strength of 20 but if push comes to shove I can improvise with what I already have, just won't all be 'basic' Ewoks.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghro5IVRZnSTMXbFch2YcRqFBFAM_brwK_697OYotCeJpzF1VXHVQfgnPhKA9Txu3h9LnLkQuNPAFWcj0yGNEhuIM6cvIaIHWfXEkulCWWKH_tApuRjojWoljiIlf50MfJEURqgVrnXDjFwzQN8ORK4K85g-dlv4LVI4vivkbpPAOgWj13b1vm_HGmvw/w480-h640/IMG_2515.jpg)

A half dozen Ewok leader figures

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjM0Xf9Vrzbalo1caGMYxCxVpZFLowlesBKqoT_Mx4XxYFzbVZnWPGfpfSUcml9FS8z69zayBB3_QWjMG5KlCBzUESxAZNwMtdO5MamlpfKPc-dztoEHevpSOZTBN2XZBbIbWkcmLrsfKy1qkjSFTIYvP3j3Zam-7Y2Xj-fJqo-9Ye8pIst5N4pRF4NA/w480-h640/IMG_2514.jpg)

A 'full' unit of 20 Ewoks - my standard unit size I've settled on just because I like that many.

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A catapult with a couple of crew loading.

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A couple of Speeders being stolen by Ewoks.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixTOjP6YpjPJEZoLk0rI8Pp3mm8awwKjwCDu_skSw_d2U6K-J_6GbMkfpeNreMR4s07Jj8yspRaim8sQV5U3ywCNw6NepQ0QVs1iKbVB7q_m_MDopIqwbqh9zbE1mBA39XeyHnmg8tZDon7DMW2EZehEko3uAOcgYHF_Tv5YSE_AXAkcLS4J2gFpMPGw/w480-h640/IMG_2511.jpg)

The Golden C3PO on palanquin - unfortunately the Droid's head came out very thin and broke so need to either repair or, if possible, replace.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEhQ8noOQauv_nXh3cN5Ed4vloprPUuKW2-TBPFXZoG152XLDNgTKE9nWxHp1DcWmIjB2yaiod_VgIMuV60dxFdWYU2wStFVdnf_yV8hswaerwmlNCW1M8j9xajBHjDjY2KRSidTdNLLXhXaEmwHty21kheKgvXv2SjRM194DqcMJOw3m8mzJNX_rLjQ/w480-h640/IMG_2510.jpg)

An Ewok band.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5OxD1R2YFGGHI3be41hBnjLC8vpyyLV_GMC5SlPKf-B4Hr8YN_rXDzs5OjgwIfHktNimgoHE2G5z7xqkDB7wdavxOYo7_zOsA4-7dJU42kvYqBJbpn5JMD5RGeS-TF822-r7ng58Z6ByHbzkQcRHbCZU4T2X1V55FVdj-pFKX4BgQVpDAjpxQuwqXWw/w480-h640/IMG_2509.jpg)

And, last, an Ewok glider.  Would love to get a few more of these if my 3D dude gets healthy and is willing.

Again, I can't identify the sources he used but am confident he has been more than fair with me in his dealings.  His real main gig is as a painter of figures and the 3D stuff is just a part-time side gig.

Taking these photos gives me a good guide to what I have. 
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 11, 2023, 11:50:12 PM
Fifteens thank you for posting those, they are great. I agree with the unit size - 20 is a goodly number and would be threatening. Are you multi basing them in a tiny, cute hoard? I can see three (or four) being a fair match for a Stormtrooper (especially when they’re wearing armour with large obvious gaps and being attacked at groin height by spear wielding space bears).

I’m working on a post showing all my vehicles - I’ll try and take photos tomorrow whilst I tidy my workspace (dining table) for the impending festivities.

Thank you both for the kick!

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on December 12, 2023, 07:29:37 AM
Most of my units of 20 figures will be 3 to a base plus one command based with 2 figures so 7 bases.  My 'little folk', the Ewoks and Jawa (Highlander Studios Sand Rats), I want to have 24 figures on 8 bases of 3, need a few more Ewoks to get to 2 units.  I also have my 15 mm Tolero from Brigade Models which were going to be my stand-in Ewoks until I got the 3D prints - will still use them.  I will also have "hero" stands of single figures for the 'stars of the show' mostly from Highlander Studios. 

Via the 3D print source I've obtained a Jaba with two Twilek plus Salacious Scrum - and hoping to still get Bib Fortuna and Princess Leia.  Also have a Cantina Band.  Have 7 Banta with riders - plus one extra rider, would like to find some 'naked' Banta but no luck so far.  Full units of 20, I've added Sand People, Wookies, Storm Troopers, Rebels - includes at least 6 alien figures, and Space Port unarmed crew.  Again, that is all 15 mm 3D prints.  Sometimes many poses, sometimes only a few poses repeated to get to 20.


Here is a link to my Star Wars personalized planet: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=140959.msg1802781#msg1802781 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=140959.msg1802781#msg1802781)

I haven't updated it in a while since working on other collections just now, but I have a thread here that shows most of my vehicles - will try and find it and link here later.  Not shown are a bunch of stuff I've found for my 'battle debris field', much of which is WAY out of scale.

Here is that other link: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=138581.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=138581.0)

And, dang, I sure posted A LOT over the last year! 
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 12, 2023, 11:48:39 PM
Thank you Fifteens, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing all your printed Ewoks. It really has become possible to have actual Star Wars (maybe not officially) in any scale you’d like.

I’m sorting the expansive mess that is my workspace on the dining room table and in doing so going through all the vehicles I have for Star Wars in 15mm. This is probably one of my favourites - the U-wing. It’s a great Revell kit in 1:100 and will be doing a lot of work for the rebellion and my personal character in the future (or a long, long time ago).

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiI53jcdo4QvgQrr2jXHtsVqF2NSl4vThPwcI-4AV8Vj30_eTdlyN8PFVd7Qe9506k6KkDHqApSmy0JdhTFBhLObyuA56yaa7xlVEFWejIL3w66eL_yYOAL_IhBxnaLe6Kz8csXYrwRw9dSjeMfQVrCB9lTPtwl8FaikXwn6HOLy-xC5aEt3CHfx-tiqgdK/s679/IMG_4842.jpeg)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgDqHU1vHUMuPqVdhXurzArPFvREleenTHOfL2HPKt0pnbLaby8ToE4C_S7S2C-JYJLluyG2AbRvAMgOdoTcAMdrVXurz5xpb2vaXZgOhlvE8zs7DmHnasTr2XDkRyo-wq24vE-yQs3TGnQ3Yc4MPTvN0l1dfygy7gYAwscedSR450iKlHwBIr1NdzkkjPA/s2287/20231212_161711.jpeg)

It had light and sound which I’ve removed but it still needs some remedial work (cabin wall and floor) before it can be painted up. I’m also considering fiddling with its boom wings as the earlier versions either don’t have them or have reduced/skeletal versions which I rather like.

The removal of light and sound function left a rather ugly, basic engine area (which had been the activation button) so instead I’ve fixed this by adding a small hole and the top of a GZG spider mech (as an astromech). They’ll also have a legged version for when they have to leave the ship.

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqNCXosYem5bowz7Ghnl9OlyfEeK3esl6z3QZ3kJFlyR5RmjVBLzPT3aGulsuDTc7DDe3CUX-FXSmmE5YSc8tuQzsiOzabq55GeK0GtmhCFlQinVwNev7lqW4B40ysAlzAMaYL0OzoHzgw8NjXtuXLTvAnC4ypWX0fTjCx5Kwz5oHKD143auJxgsyLhXxv/s3311/20231212_164835.jpeg)

Once I’m done tidying I intend to tackle some painting and get some progress up here.

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 13, 2023, 06:33:07 AM
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Hi War Monkey. Thank you for enquiring (and the kick to see if I am dead).

I learn not to kick dead thing around, I usually poke them with a big, long stick, just in case I have to whack them!  o_o

I have been working on a different sort of Star Wars project. My granddaughter, who is all into Star Wars. For whom I have given her a few Lego Star Wars figures for her birthday, and she went crazy for them.

For Christmas My project is.... she likes purple and the 187th Legion's colors are purple for Master Windu who carries a purple Lightsaber. Now the Commander of the 187th is unknown. following cannon and non-cannon. all that is known is that this commander was separated for the rest of all the other clone and received different training then the other clones. This commander also leads troops very successful in combat using mostly just hand signals.

We know that Omega from the Bad Batch is a clone. However, was Omega the first female clone? With that said, my granddaughter is of mix race, and I had to hunt down a Lego that had her correct skin tone and hair. I swapped out the head for the Purple Commander Lego one with this head and that will be part of her Christmas that she will discover that she is the commander of the 187 Legion, along with a dozen different purple clone troops plus Master Windu. I'm tapped right now as funds go but I did find an Etsy shop that has a purple patch for the 187th Legion that I will get her later on.

My evil plan is to get her hooked on gaming, I need to find a loose addition of "Brikwars" or a download. to give to her and then it's "Game On!"

Meanwhile all of this as sparked the 15mm Star Wars bug in me again. I need to get my Filament printer up and running, so I can start printing out building and vehicles. I will wait to resin printer for doing figures in the meantime I will get back to sculpting, my biggest problem there has been that I keep make my next figure bigger than the last one. My new plan is, after I had talked to Tom Mason about it and gave me the idea, is I will make my armatures and super glue a head from "Peter Pig" on to the armature then this will keep me from making them bigger and bigger and keep me within the boundaries set.

I have a lot of things going on right now, but I feel that right after Christmas I will have a lot of spare time. I hope to have my printer set up before then too.




Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 13, 2023, 11:49:51 AM
War Monkey I fully endorse your plan to corrupt the little one  :D and love your idea for her crimbo present.

I think your system for using Peter Pig heads is very sensible, I’ve used them many times (100’s now) and love the flexibility and range. I’ve sculpted a number of 15mm WW2 German tank crew members and simply added a suitable PP head (sometimes then adding to that too) but I also use Martin’s figures as dollies or even just legs (filed down a spare Russian to just his legs) to make sure I’m creating something the correct size (I’m not saying only PP’s 15mm is the one true size lol just to me). I recently started using the bald heads to experiment making alien heads which I’ll then add to my GZG made Star Wars rebels.

Thank you my friend, walk softly and carry a big stick

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 13, 2023, 04:46:05 PM
UTLM.
Thank You for the PDF file I know she will love it, along with my son too!

I am curious as to the Martin figures you have mentioned, and as to where one can find them. It sounds like they would be easier to use for sculpting. I love PP heads, I have used them a lot as well in doing head swaps. Example, I had all of these Rebel Minis police from his police set, like 21 of them, so I took a third of them and used PP Dough Boys heads, the ones with the campaign hats and made a set of Minnesota State Troopers for my Zombie games.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K3S1I8c-aTI/V-dA0ZbvWnI/AAAAAAAABeQ/j8QzSnJZW94g9C40DEYT-MifILSe-KgmACLcB/s320/102_1455.jpg)

So now I just don't have a bunch of plain street cops all over the place. I plan to use the other third for Game Wardens and Sheriff Deputies. Yup, more head swaps.

But back to Star Wars, like I had said I need to set up my printer, however the wife has stated that I can't set it up until the remodeling of our bedroom is done, she knows me to well that if I set it up the bedroom will never get done in a timely manner.  lol lol lol  Then I can get busy with buildings, vehicles and crafts. I want to make (sculpt) a set of the Bad Batch and I think the rules of Five Parsecs from Home will work really well for this group. I have a set of the Old Star Wars miniatures rule book around here somewhere within the great tall pile of the rule books mountain.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/3/32/Star_wars_miniatures_battles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20051119234110 (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/3/32/Star_wars_miniatures_battles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20051119234110)

I'll have to dig it out and see what is useful in it, it has been sometime since I have read it. Meanwhile I have order sets of miniatures from Highlander Studios His "Space Pals" sets along with the Jawas, Sand People, Rebel Ship Crew, Storm troopers, and "Those Curious Chaps" from Khurasan Miniatures, that I have now. I need to get a few more sets, so I can do some conversion on them to make some Mandalorians, I'll have to sculpt a Mandalorian helmet and make a simple two-piece mold and use Green Stuff to press the helmets out, I'll also have to do the same to make some of the earlier clone troopers' helmets as well. This would give a good mix of figures to the game and a little easier to keep track of as well. I want to keep the other helmets, because I think they will come in handy for Star Wars Zombies in Space! A group of bloody helmets will be great for drop in terrain pieces or just a warning in other Star War games. I guess this means I will have to get a few more sets than I had planned! I just can't have old helmets laying around and no Strom Trooper Zombies! This might turn out interesting ::)

Doug




Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 13, 2023, 09:51:58 PM
Doug: apologies Martin is the chap behind Peter Pig. Interestingly I’ve done exactly the same headswap with doughboys onto the rebel police for a friend. It works so well.

I agree a helmet sprue would be great (although I fear Disney may not like a commercial variant  lol) hmmm………

 I have played the Star Wars Miniatures rules in my youth and intend to tackle them again when I’m up and running (looking forwards to having a range of rulesets to choose from).

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 16, 2023, 05:57:31 AM
No problem. I can see why the Russian figures would work really well. If shipping wasn't so expensive now. I'll have to find myself another source of figures to do that with.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 16, 2023, 01:03:18 PM
Alternative Armies sell 15mm dollies  https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-hof-science-fiction-range/products/15mm-blank-dollies-11-poses-choice-of-pack-contents (https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-hof-science-fiction-range/products/15mm-blank-dollies-11-poses-choice-of-pack-contents)(I purchased some of these ages ago from the excellent chap at Splintered light as well)

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 18, 2023, 04:59:59 PM
Oh, I know about their dollies it just a matter of the wallet size!  lol lol lol
With Christmas spending and the rest of the holidays, it's killing me! I generally have to wait for our Tax Returns to make large orders from England to make up for the shipping cost. Ordering one or two sets is just cost prohibitive. If I were to order such, I have to do like I have in the past by making very large purchases. Usually, I make $200 plus orders around then. I'll just have to wait, then I can order about 6 sets! that should keep me busy for a little while.  lol lol lol
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 23, 2023, 11:40:46 PM
Okay, I went and bought a set of 15mm Jedis off of Etsy.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1395375282/gmo-mystics-for-tabletop-wargaming-epic?ref=yr_purchases

(https://i.etsystatic.com/32297716/r/il/e1968c/4639160569/il_1140xN.4639160569_3ggp.jpg)

I hope to get started on sculpting after the first of the New Years along with more time with the printer as well.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: LouieN on December 24, 2023, 05:10:20 AM
WE makes good figures
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: FifteensAway on December 24, 2023, 05:42:04 AM
Those W-E figures look interesting - but I Hate those thick bases so a pass for me.  Though I guess better to have the bases than not, expect some effort needed to base all of my "unbased" 3D printed figures.  Still, bases Way too thick for my tastes. 

Nice find if you don't mind the bases.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: BeneathALeadMountain on December 24, 2023, 12:21:45 PM
That looks like a great set War a monkey - can’t wait to see how they turn out. I fully agree with LouieN about liking Wakes work - I have some of their Fantasy 10mm and they are better than most others in my opinion.

Fifteens I’d imagine the bases can be lessened or reduced pre-printing (although I have zero knowledge about 3D printing) or hidden with basing maybe. I have some non-based 3D printed samurai and affixing them is an interesting problem (although one I didn’t tackle for long as they’re also too small for 15mm really).

Andrew
BeneathALeadMountain
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: War Monkey on December 24, 2023, 09:02:47 PM
I don't how the match up to other 15mm but I will soon find out and give my assessment the bases do look a little tall but I'll just have to sand those down, but that will depend on their actual height. If they hold up, scale wise, I will get some of the other sets as well.
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Cacique Caribe on December 29, 2023, 10:20:31 AM
As requested, photos of my 15 mm 3D prints - Ewoks.  Not sure of source but I use a local guy who either uses his own license to print or I pay for a license and he gets it and prints and then I pay for the prints themselves - pretty reasonable.  I think he had to convert everything to 15 mm.  Sadly, he is having some very serious health problems of his own so not sure if I will be able to get more work through him, I am hopeful both for his sake and so that I can round out a few things - like some more Ewoks  - and Princess Leia and Bib Fortuna if he can find them.


I hope he feels better soon, and makes his services available to others!

Dan
Title: Re: Help with my 15mm Star Wars project
Post by: Grimmnar on January 01, 2024, 10:58:22 AM
Those W-E figures look interesting - but I Hate those thick bases so a pass for me.  Though I guess better to have the bases than not, expect some effort needed to base all of my "unbased" 3D printed figures.  Still, bases Way too thick for my tastes. 

Nice find if you don't mind the bases.
File or sandpaper take care of that minor detail.

Grimm