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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Norm on January 27, 2023, 01:47:23 PM

Title: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Norm on January 27, 2023, 01:47:23 PM
I am hoping that 2023 is the year that some Napoleonic gaming will grace the figures table, with two ‘Pocket Armies’ being built.

However, in the lead / plastic mountain, I have acquired enough figures to do the project in 13.5mm, 20mm and 28mm - of course, only one can progress.

I have posted some thoughts about this over on the blog.

LINK

http://battlefieldswarriors.blogspot.com/2023/01/choosing-napoleonic-pocket-armies-and.html
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Admiral Hawke on January 28, 2023, 10:56:43 PM
I think if I were to start Napoleonics again I would go for the wonderful 18mm figures by Tony Barton.

- I love the 28mm figures from Victrix and Perry which got me into the hobby in the first place, but they take up a lot of space and I just don't have that big a house or table. It's hard to get much room for manoeuvre on a household-size table.
- I wouldn't choose a non-standard scale like 13.5mm because you are then dependent on a single manufacturer to bring out the figures that you want (though 3D printing is gradually fixing that).

Good luck with your quandary.  ;)
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Cat on January 28, 2023, 11:33:28 PM
Interesting dilemma.  If you're not completely partial to metal figures, 20mm has the advantage of also being compatible with 1/72 plastics and a huge array of options for building pocket armies.
 
I'm rather bitter that Warlord didn't go with actual 15s, a scale long abandoned by the industry.  Grumble, grumble.
 
Bonne chance!
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: SJWi on January 29, 2023, 05:46:04 AM
Norm, apart from the comment about AB I agree with Norm. By the way AB are lovely, but at 80p per figure a tad expensive.  I have 28mm Front Rank but haven't used them for many years because my 6 x 4' table at home just isn't big enough. I would settle on the rules first as these often dictate unit sizes and then see which fits your personal gaming circumstances.  If I was starting from scratch I would go 10 or 15mm . The Warlord "13.5mm" looks attractive but I just don't like how they have made their product totally incompatible with anyone else's.     
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: vodkafan on January 29, 2023, 12:00:40 PM
28mm all the way Norm! There you go decision made  lol
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: fastolfrus on January 29, 2023, 12:09:02 PM
might also be worth looking for a specific campaign that you like the look of?

Personally I prefer either the North American War of 1812 (cheaper for not needing cavalry) or Napoleon's campaign in Egypt (more exotic uniform and unit choices).

The campaign might dictate figure scale.
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Warboss Nick on January 29, 2023, 12:53:40 PM
Interesting approach, a lot of effort just to decide. I‘m curious to hear how you fare.

My local gaming group went for 28mm. It’s just so visually pleasing. It needs a lot of space for gaming though.
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Mindenbrush on January 29, 2023, 01:04:27 PM
AB 18mm.

I, along with 3 others, have just started building Napoleonic armies after a game of Generaral D’Armee and are using AB figures.

As we are in Canada there is no local supplier so we ordered directly from AB figures for a number of reasons:
If you place a large enough order using PayPal you get a discount.
Tracked postage is only 25 AUD World wide and takes about 2 weeks.
They are never out of stock.
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: jon_1066 on January 29, 2023, 03:05:30 PM
I’d go with the epic because it looks more like a battlefield than an extended brawl on a football pitch.

It’s all down to personal preference though so whatever works best for you
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: fred on January 29, 2023, 04:05:17 PM
I’d consider what terrain you already have that can be used. Having to get trees and hedges and walls in another scale is a cost and storage issue. Buildings you perhaps need to get for period specificity - but there is wide overlap in usage of European buildings so existing ones are very likely to get used.

From the 3 sets of figures you have shown, I’d go with the 20mm ones. Whilst I’d normally go for 10mm figures, the Warlord epic figures don’t do a lot for me. 28mm for mass battle is just too big, and too much painting for me

Rules wise, I’d be less worried about picking a set, rules take up very little storage space. Whilst focusing on a rule set very much helps with playability, having a ruleset or two in reserve is very little bookshelf space
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: wrgmr1 on February 14, 2023, 07:50:19 PM
Our group has 28mm and 15mm Napolelonics. We use Shako II rules for both scales. I good solid rule set. 
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: frank xerox on February 14, 2023, 11:14:15 PM
I’m too heavily into 15s but if I was doing it again I’d go for 10mm. Mass effect and more paint friendly. With Soldiers of Napoleon for rules
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: vtsaogames on February 17, 2023, 03:24:28 PM
I've got lots of 15s. 10mm beckoned but my crew said might as well use counters. One used to sell 54s but we are not going there.

I have about 150 10mm ACW Union soldiers. Orphans.
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: frank xerox on February 18, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
Shame, I went 10mil for ancients and SYW and they look great. And there’s the positive reinforcement of getting a unit painted in a couple of sessions
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Khusru2 on February 18, 2023, 11:26:33 PM
If you haven't decided yet, choose 6mm! Good, honest manufacturers.
Title: Re: Choosing a scale and rules for Napoleonics
Post by: Redshank on February 19, 2023, 06:22:45 AM
Personally, I am not a fan of the Warlord epics visually. They look too nutcracker-soldier-ish to me. No accounting for taste and all that.