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Title: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: David H on January 29, 2023, 08:37:42 PM
My first participation in this contest, but I have been intending to build a church for Eastern European games of Chain of Command, and there are some quite quirky shaped  churches from that region I fancy building.
I have a couple in mind already, just need to draw up some plans.

I might just change this for a Spanish/Portuguese church for use in Black Powder Peninsula games, but I think that will be a bigger build than I have time for in this contest.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Golgotha on January 29, 2023, 08:52:24 PM
Look forward to seeing any and all of these more historical temples.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Vanvlak on January 30, 2023, 07:05:06 PM
Sounds cool, looking forward to this.  8)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: has.been on January 30, 2023, 07:40:05 PM
Good luck. :)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 30, 2023, 07:47:34 PM
I am looking forward to this project.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on January 31, 2023, 10:02:46 AM
These are the type of churches I am thinking of, the blue one would be unusual, but I need to find some 'onion' top domes, and the wooden one has some interesting shapes to it, I'll need to remember my schoolboy geometry!
I think I'll be using 2mm plastic card for the build, perhaps some balsa too.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Tarnegol on January 31, 2023, 10:27:08 AM
Onion domes here:
https://magneticdisplays.co.uk/ian-weekley (https://magneticdisplays.co.uk/ian-weekley)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on January 31, 2023, 10:45:26 AM
Onion domes here:
https://magneticdisplays.co.uk/ian-weekley (https://magneticdisplays.co.uk/ian-weekley)

Thanks, thats great!
But its just made my choice much harder  ;)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Daeothar on January 31, 2023, 03:04:37 PM
Yay; polystyrene for the win!

This time round I won't be able to use my favourite material, so you're going to have to make up for that now  :D

Great subject; very interested to see how this one turns out.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 02, 2023, 09:14:55 AM
Yay; polystyrene for the win!

This time round I won't be able to use my favourite material, so you're going to have to make up for that now  :D


No pressure then? I hope I live up to your high standards!!  8)

I think I have made my decision - my build will be based on the wooden version, but I may paint the upper sections in blue, just for a splash of colour, but I'm not making a final decision on this until its built.

I hope to fit the whole thing on a 12" x 8" base. Plastic sheet will allow me to scribe in the logs/planking without having to actually build log walling.

The domes from the link provided by Tarnegol are not quite what I want - which is longer and slimmer. I might just have a go at turning them myself.
This weekend may see me knocking up a DIY lathe in the shed - there may be blood involved  ;)

Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: has.been on February 02, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
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This weekend may see me knocking up a DIY lathe in the shed - there may be blood involved  ;)

As long as it's not in vein. lol lol lol
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 02, 2023, 10:39:18 AM
As long as it's not in vein. lol lol lol

A wooden frame made by me, a drill held down with rubber bands, fast spinny bits, and sharp pointy things. What can possibly go wrong?  :D
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Daeothar on February 02, 2023, 10:41:32 AM
Just paint it red and believe it works; it's the orky way!  :D
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 02, 2023, 10:56:43 AM
Just paint it red and believe it works; it's the orky way!  :D

 lol lol lol
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Wirelizard on February 03, 2023, 05:07:46 AM
I did onion domes a decade ago (!) with turned decorative bits (small wooden drawer pulls, basically) and Milliput for a 28mm Russian church and they came out very well and durable - still got the church!

Unpainted shot that shows the construction nicely: http://www.warbard.ca/2012/01/25/onion-domes-part-one/

Fully finished church: http://www.warbard.ca/2012/02/15/onion-domes-finished/

(one advantage of hosting your own blog for a decade+ - my old projects are much easier to find and share than a harddrive full of photos is!)

Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: carlos marighela on February 03, 2023, 06:18:41 AM
There are foam polystyrene foam balls/ half balls, egg shapes, bell shapes and I've even seen some slightly baroque spire shapes available at local craft shops here. Sold as DIY decorations.  Bound to be something amongst that lot you can make an Onion Dome with. I'm sure you must have something similar local to you.

Another easy method are the plastic finials for curtains. Come in a variety of sizes and useful dome and other shapes. I bought some for a model mosque some years back.

Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: AKULA on February 03, 2023, 07:45:04 AM
Good luck  :)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 03, 2023, 09:17:33 AM
I did onion domes a decade ago (!) with turned decorative bits (small wooden drawer pulls, basically) and Milliput for a 28mm Russian church and they came out very well and durable - still got the church!

Unpainted shot that shows the construction nicely: http://www.warbard.ca/2012/01/25/onion-domes-part-one/

Fully finished church: http://www.warbard.ca/2012/02/15/onion-domes-finished/

(one advantage of hosting your own blog for a decade+ - my old projects are much easier to find and share than a harddrive full of photos is!)

Nice job on those domes. The ones I would like to do are quite slim and long so do not really suit wooden draw pulls, but it is an option if my wood turning idea fails.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 03, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
There are foam polystyrene foam balls/ half balls, egg shapes, bell shapes and I've even seen some slightly baroque spire shapes available at local craft shops here. Sold as DIY decorations.  Bound to be something amongst that lot you can make an Onion Dome with. I'm sure you must have something similar local to you.

Another easy method are the plastic finials for curtains. Come in a variety of sizes and useful dome and other shapes. I bought some for a model mosque some years back.

I have had a look at these, and they are all quite large. I would like smaller slimmer domes.

I actually had a bit of a brainwave last night - fishing floats might do the job!
I'll be Googling them today to see if I can find the right size - anything to avoid splintering my fingers trying to make one!  ;)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: aircav on February 03, 2023, 10:41:10 AM
This looks like it’s going to be a great build, looking forward to seeing it progress
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Daeothar on February 03, 2023, 08:52:43 PM
How about wooden beads? They come in all sizes and shapes and most craft shops carry them. I've even seen a dedicated beads shop once...
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 04, 2023, 08:28:01 AM
How about wooden beads? They come in all sizes and shapes and most craft shops carry them. I've even seen a dedicated beads shop once...
Thanks for the suggestion I have ac!tually been googling them already. Most seem to be faceted and do not have the onion/pear drop shape, but I am still looking.
I have found some fishing floats that look ok and will order a couple to check size.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: DivisMal on February 04, 2023, 08:46:42 AM
My first participation in this contest, but I have been intending to build a church for Eastern European games of Chain of Command, and there are some quite quirky shaped  churches from that region I fancy building.
I have a couple in mind already, just need to draw up some plans.

I might just change this for a Spanish/Portuguese church for use in Black Powder Peninsula games, but I think that will be a bigger build than I have time for in this contest.

Great idea!
And true: an Iberian church easily is intermixed with a cathedral;) there are however smaller ones in today’s villages, but it’s not easy to get pictures for that.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Vis Bellica on February 04, 2023, 09:01:49 AM
Don't ask me why, but I have thirteen eastern orthodox churches in my collection. I don 't do the scratch build, so they are all bought, and some even bought painted, but they might serve as some inspiration for you:

https://www.vislardica.com/blog/2022/9/30/yet-another-15mm-eastern-orthodox-church (https://www.vislardica.com/blog/2022/9/30/yet-another-15mm-eastern-orthodox-church)

https://www.vislardica.com/blog/2022/10/12/just-a-quick-eastern-churchpromise (https://www.vislardica.com/blog/2022/10/12/just-a-quick-eastern-churchpromise)

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5406c773e4b087d8052ef58b/1664099751960-WLPKCXYDENFEJ9HMJ6X2/Mark+IV+Miniatures.jpg?format=750w)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 04, 2023, 04:40:35 PM
I have made a start with some scale(ish) plans.
I need to do some basic geometry and work out the roof panel sizes and heights, then I can get cutting.

Now, where is my old school protractor?

Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 05, 2023, 12:59:24 PM
I've had inspiration!

My dome issue has been solved  :)

The solution involves the game of golf - I'll leave it at that for now, but watch this space.......... :D
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: has.been on February 05, 2023, 03:37:37 PM
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The solution involves the game of golf - I'll leave it at that for now, but watch this space.......... :D

Ah! You are playing around with us. lol
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 05, 2023, 10:14:30 PM
Ah! You are playing around with us. lol

I am just 'tees'ing you  :D
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: mikedemana on February 07, 2023, 03:27:29 AM
I'm probably too late, but a trip back in 2015 to Ukraine saw lots of wooden (and otherwise) onion domes...

(https://photos.travellerspoint.com/489281/large_LvivMuseumSteeples.JPG)

(https://photos.travellerspoint.com/489281/large_LvivMuseumChurches.JPG)

These are from a outdoor museum near Lviv. A Google search will doubtless turn up even better pictures, but I thought since I had them on my travel blog that I'd share them...

Good luck!

Mike Demana
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: David H on February 07, 2023, 12:44:34 PM
Those are great Mike - thanks for posting.

If I had seen those earlier I might have been tempted, but fortunately I've started cutting for an easier version  ;)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church
Post by: Things from the Basement on February 08, 2023, 12:47:03 PM
In case you are looking for a quick solution:
(https://www.thingsfromthebasement.com/uploads/5/8/3/7/58376453/s674824954927702742_p548_i1_w640.jpeg)
(https://www.thingsfromthebasement.com/uploads/5/8/3/7/58376453/s674824954927702742_p548_i2_w640.jpeg)

Available here:
https://www.thingsfromthebasement.com/store/p548/Orthodox_Church.html (https://www.thingsfromthebasement.com/store/p548/Orthodox_Church.html)
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: David H on March 06, 2023, 09:55:50 AM
I regret that due to a number of circumstances, work, my sons rapidly approaching wedding, and a clinical trial I have recently become involved with, I do not have the necessary time to complete this build within the deadline.

I only have a few hours a week to devote to my hobby at present and that will not be enough to get everything done before the competition closes.

I will complete this build over the course of the next few months and will post the results elsewhere for anyone interested.

Best of luck to the rest of you, and I look forward to watching your builds develop.

David
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on March 06, 2023, 09:59:29 AM
That is a pity - I was looking forward to your build.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: David H on March 06, 2023, 10:29:27 AM
That is a pity - I was looking forward to your build.

Thanks, but I had to be realistic, and there is no way I will get this done in time. At present I am grabbing a couple of hours painting at the kitchen table each week and there is no room for 'messy' modelling projects - or so my wife tells me  ;)

I'll document my eventual progress in a separate thread as I still want to get this done.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: has.been on March 06, 2023, 10:31:48 AM
It's a shame. Good luck with all the other things,
& I look forward to seeing it finished at a later date.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: snitcythedog on March 06, 2023, 01:16:14 PM
I am sorry to see you drop out.  Real life has stopped almost all of us at one time or another.
Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: Vanvlak on March 08, 2023, 07:16:17 PM
Hope we'll see it completed later - this should be a cool little model.

Title: Re: BSC2023 David H East European Church - having to drop out
Post by: FifteensAway on March 09, 2023, 07:20:02 AM
Real life - we usually say "it sucks" but what we should say is that it has to take priority sometimes and it is what allows us to indulge in our hobbies, got to have that money to pay for them toys.  And best to listen to the wife's dictates, especially for a child's wedding. 

But it still sucks that you have to drop out.  The urgency of this contest is really helping me make progress on my project, pity you won't have that driving you forward.  Just us hoping to see you finish.