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Title: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on January 30, 2023, 12:26:42 PM
I've just noticed these new figures from the 'Giants in miniature' range.  They look pretty good.

(https://www.wargamesillustrated.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Makhno-and-Schuss.png)

https://www.wargamesillustrated.net/product/makhno-and-schuss/ (https://www.wargamesillustrated.net/product/makhno-and-schuss/)
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: SJWi on January 31, 2023, 02:29:43 PM
Excellent. Glad someone produced them but very much a minority interest.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: scotty on January 31, 2023, 03:05:17 PM
They are great looking figures
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: FramFramson on January 31, 2023, 06:55:42 PM
Yeah great looking figures with lovely paintjobs too.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Drunkendwarf on January 31, 2023, 07:50:26 PM
Excellent. Glad someone produced them but very much a minority interest.

Brigadegames have them for some years now (out of stock at the moment).
https://www.brigadegames.com/Nestor-Makhno-and-Fyodo-Schuss-Russian-Civil-War-anarchists-2_p_592.html

I like these more but I'm a fan of this style (I believe Mike Owen from Artizan Design).

DJ
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on February 01, 2023, 12:05:54 PM
Brigadegames have them for some years now (out of stock at the moment).
https://www.brigadegames.com/Nestor-Makhno-and-Fyodo-Schuss-Russian-Civil-War-anarchists-2_p_592.html

I like these more but I'm a fan of this style (I believe Mike Owen from Artizan Design).

DJ

The brigade ones are probably more use as higher level command figures but these are more useful for getting stuck in the action.  Nice to have the choice.  Always good to have more leaders/officers for head swaps and variety too.  You can get get away with having the ranks be the same few repeat poses but repeated leaders in 28mm looks wrong. IMO.  Especially when the poses are more interesting and unique.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Ignatieff on March 10, 2023, 09:58:24 AM
These are superb figures.  Anyone know who designed these?  I feel a commission or two coming on….
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Von Stroheim on March 10, 2023, 02:28:16 PM
Has anybody received these yet ? I ordered them some time ago.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Ignatieff on March 10, 2023, 06:23:55 PM
Just ordered mine today.  Will let you know if/when they arrive
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on March 11, 2023, 03:09:47 PM
I wrote to them on Feb 26 as I hadn't realised it was a pre-order.  Ian wrote back the next day apologising for the delay.  There was a problem with the mould from what he said.  I've not ordered from them before, so no idea how long these things take.  At least he wrote back, unlike Redoubt/Grubby Tanks who haven't delivered my order and are ignoring my contact attempts.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Rogerc on March 19, 2023, 11:48:33 AM
Glad you checked so I dont have to Trev, was getting worried they were not coming.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Ignatieff on March 22, 2023, 06:45:32 PM
Has anybody received these yet ? I ordered them some time ago.

Mines arrived yesterday.  Dan was saying there was a problem with the original masters, now sorted
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on March 22, 2023, 11:15:49 PM
Mines arrived yesterday.  Dan was saying there was a problem with the original masters, now sorted

Now that's favouritism!  :o
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Ignatieff on March 23, 2023, 07:50:23 AM
Now that's favouritism!  :o


 lol lol lol
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on March 28, 2023, 07:41:37 PM
Mine still haven't turned up.  So much for no gods and no masters.   :(

Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Rogerc on March 28, 2023, 10:04:27 PM
Mine either, but not panicing just yet
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Armstrong47 on March 29, 2023, 12:31:00 PM
I ordered mine via Northstar,and they arrived within a week.
Speaking of ordering from Northstar,does anyone have any suggestions as to which Copplestone Castings figures would be suitable for a force led by Makhno and Schuss
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Von Stroheim on March 29, 2023, 02:01:10 PM
The Partisans and any of the other infantry(including naval) as long as you avoid epaulettes and the Budenovka headgear worn by the Reds.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Armstrong47 on March 29, 2023, 02:32:47 PM
The Partisans and any of the other infantry(including naval) as long as you avoid epaulettes and the Budenovka headgear worn by the Reds.

Thank you very much for the info.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Rogerc on March 29, 2023, 03:17:33 PM
Agreed I have a force of Mahknovists, a mix of Partizans mainly Copplestone with some of the STP ones and a small number of sailors mixed in.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Armstrong47 on March 29, 2023, 03:38:46 PM
Agreed I have a force of Mahknovists, a mix of Partizans mainly Copplestone with some of the STP ones and a small number of sailors mixed in.


That's great,thank you.
Are there any cavalry and artillery?
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: traveller on March 29, 2023, 03:48:21 PM
I ordered mine via Northstar,and they arrived within a week.
Speaking of ordering from Northstar,does anyone have any suggestions as to which Copplestone Castings figures would be suitable for a force led by Makhno and Schuss

How do they compare in size with other RCW miniatures (Copplestone/Brigade)? Some of the other Giants have really been giants...
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Rogerc on March 29, 2023, 04:52:51 PM

That's great,thank you.
Are there any cavalry and artillery?

Makhno certainly had cavalry not sure what would be best figures to represent them as I dont think there are many partisan cavlary out there.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on March 29, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
I haven't really thought it through but perhaps some of the Napoleonic era cossacks might do as a basis for converting some partisan cavalry. 

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product-category/metal-ranges/napoleonic/russian/page/2/ (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product-category/metal-ranges/napoleonic/russian/page/2/)
https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/shop.php?p=category_products&category=816&page=2 (https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/shop.php?p=category_products&category=816&page=2)
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: cuprum on March 30, 2023, 12:11:19 AM
Makhno's army, in its appearance, does not actually differ from the semi-partisan units of the Red Army at the beginning of the Civil War. Budyonnovkas (cloth helmet) are missing - and that's all. A mixture of elements of civilian and military clothing. Moreover, there are objects of any armies - Russian, Austrian, German, English, French. Makhno's army includes a large number of deserters from the white, red, and Ukrainian armies - of course, with the preservation of the elements of the uniforms of these armies (without insignia - one could easily pay with one's life by mistake for their presence). The ideas of anarchism were very popular among the sailors, so there are a lot of sailors in the Makhno army, of course - with elements of a naval uniform (they especially loved peakless caps). Sailors made up a significant part of the "technical staff" - artillery, teams of armored trains, etc.
Commanders have great love for leather jackets, hussar atillas, and English jackets. Colored hussar chakchirs (Russian, Austrian, German) were also popular.
No regulations, no rules.
Plus everything that was stolen in stores, warehouses and from prisoners of war  ;)

(http://rataku.com/images/2023/03/30/MAKNOVTY.-1920-G.-STAROBELSK.jpg)

(http://rataku.com/images/2023/03/30/OTRYD-MAKNOVTEV-POD-KOMANDOVANIEM-F.-SUSY-V-TENTRE-V-PERIOD-BORBY-S-AVSTRIISKO-NEMETKIMI-OKKUPANTAMI-I-GETMANTAMI.-OSEN-1918-GODA..png)

(http://rataku.com/images/2023/03/30/POVSTANTY-BATKI-MAKNO-NA-STANTII-POLOGI-ILI-GRUPPA-MAKNOVTEV.-1919-MART-G.-KARKOV.jpg)

There are more than enough Copplestone figurines to create a Makhnovist army.

And here are a couple more music videos based on the Nine Lives of Nestor Makhno series. Here you can see the color scheme of the "uniforms" of the Makhnovist army and use it to paint the figurines:

https://youtu.be/1A83rOJk0uo

https://youtu.be/hlu0s0sNAJ4
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Mark Plant on March 30, 2023, 04:40:13 AM
Makhno's army, in its appearance, does not actually differ from the semi-partisan units of the Red Army at the beginning of the Civil War.

Indeed the best part of it was a unit of the Red Army for much of the war!
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on March 30, 2023, 10:57:09 PM
Great pictures and videos.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Ignatieff on April 01, 2023, 08:00:42 PM
Fabulous Cuprum, as always!
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: nicknorthstar on April 01, 2023, 08:19:20 PM
The mould issue was our fault at North Star. We made a mould and the master figures fused to the rubber, they wouldn't come out. Most extra-ordinary.

So we had to start again from scratch, but they are all made and cast now, nag Ian at WI because they should have been sent.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on April 02, 2023, 02:10:21 PM
Thanks for the explanation Nick.  Accidents happen, that can't be helped.   It was more that Steve ordered so much later, yet got his figures, that left me feeling a bit fobbed off.  Still, I've already emailed Ian twice and the most recent reply was only the 28th, so I'll give it a few more days before I start nagging again.  Besides, we are firmly into first world problem territory here, and my Karen T-shirt is in the wash.  :D
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: trev on April 05, 2023, 04:35:01 PM
My long lost anarchists have finally arrived.  The sculpting and casting are great.  So all is well that ends well, and there is no need for any harsh revolutionary justice.  ;)
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: Rogerc on April 06, 2023, 07:26:50 PM
Same they arrived today, lookign forward to gettign soem paint on them.
Title: Re: Makhno and Schuss from Giants
Post by: frd on June 15, 2023, 11:14:42 PM
Now also available as a 3d printable STL! (https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-303334). Tempted to beef them up a bit and print them for my 15mm campaign!